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Has there been any announcement on the ability to install apps on the external media on the TF? It seems strange that this is possible for Android 2.2, but not 3.0.
I think this is mostly due to the fluid state of the partitions of the operating system in 3.0 On 2.x the /system and /data are set sizes so to free up some some space for more apps. On 3.x if more space is needed, it alloactes more space so app2sd is not needed
I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
worthless microsd
i bought the 16gb version and a 32gb microsd card thinking it would be a cheaper way to have more storage. Instead it seems the external storage doesn't serve much of a purpose leaving me a little disappointed. I assumed Android was already supporting multiple storage locations but I guess that was removed in 3.0. Ideally I would love to be able to use Gallery to sync my picasa albums but if I did that I would end up with no free space on the main drive.
Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations
I know some custom ROMs for other tablets have offered optional methods for changing the mount points of internal and external storage. For example, setting the external card to mount at /sdcard and leaving internal storage for /Removable/microSD. I asked about this in dev forum last week but no takers.
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With 3.0 google finally got smart. Apps are installed to your internal memory the same as everything else. So you have 16/32GB for apps and everything else, and then you have your SD card in addition to that.
So having all that internal memory makes Apps2SD useless.
You'll see froyo apps2sd in ice cream sandwich most likely for older devices most likely, but in honeycomb it's gone.
Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?
stcardinal said:
Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?
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No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
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Dave
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Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations
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With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
Worst case scenario: if you have root, you could replace the directory Gallery uses for the Offline photos with a symlink to a directory on the (micro)SD Card. You might need to put a ".nomedia" file in that directory (to keep the media scanner from indexing those files and thinking they should /also/ be in the gallery), but it'll work long as you leave the sdcard in whenever Gallery is open.
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I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
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That's great! I always hated worrying about whether something was installed on the current SD card.
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(I'm Not having a go at the above poster).
Thats all well and good but if you use Googlemaps (Navigation) with the offline maps ala Htc Desire and others You can quickly use several gig of space.
add to that Copilot maps 2.5Gb or Aura 2.2Gb and that 16Gb dosn't seem so big, lol..
I bought a 32Gb SD Card for the Dock and now know that its a waste of time as you have to manually open any music or films as they dont appear in the Gallery etc.
I also bought a 32Gb Micro SD Card for the tablet which is where I want to put Downloads and the Gallery Also the Navigation Maps. But the apps wont see the data so again why have them.
So all in all extra storage appears to be a waste of time.
Hopefully some of the Guru's here can sort this out as Its crazy to have all this available space and not be able to use it.
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No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
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640kb should be enough for anybody.
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640kb should be enough for anybody.
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It was, at the time!
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jjal09 said:
With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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Lordgodgeneral already answered this when you brought it up the first time, but it is simple to transfer any of your media files over to the SD card. Yes when you first download your pics they will be stored on internal memory, but you can manually move them over to the sd card and they will still be recognized by the transformer. I believe the stock file manager will work for this, but I personally use root explorer.
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With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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That has more to do with the app itself. If an app lets you set where it saves, it'll work.
It may be possible to have all the internal storage dedicated to apps (/data) and point /sdcard to the removable micro SD card with some fstab modifications. I'll try this tonight and see what happens.
HD GAMES????
ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse
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ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse
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Ithink its better to loose the games if somthing damages your internal storage. I have the 32 gb Transformer and thats more than enough for games. You can not play 30 games at the same time and if you bakup your game and gamedata you can uninstal a game and install it again if you whant to play it.
I dont understand why people always ask for intstall something on Micro SD card. Intrenal storage is much faster than a card.
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I keep getting a low memory message. I have most apps i installed on the sd card, which is 8gb. I can't save evernote or backups. There is little media save 50 pictures. Anyone tell me how to free up some of the internal memory, or the usb storage?
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Do you have most of your apps installed on your sdcard or usbstorage? If your using the move to sd card method in manage applications, then it's going to store it in your usbstorage, not your external sd card. This happens with Apps2SD too.
How the hell can someone have their usb storage memory filled up with just apps?
Are you putting music or something in the usb storage, and not on your memory card?
I mean seriously, most apps are small. VERY small.
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How the hell can someone have their usb storage memory filled up with just apps?
Are you putting music or something in the usb storage, and not on your memory card?
I mean seriously, most apps are small. VERY small.
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That's true, but most apps also have additional data that they store in /sdcard. And since the blaze has /sdcard as usbstorage, everything goes there so it fills up quick. I have a lot of apps too but the ones that store data in the usbstorage, I move to /sdcard/external_sd by using GL to SD. Although it only works for gameloft games and data stored in /sdcard/Android and /sdcard/data, those are the two folders that usually take up the most space.
Well, gaming on your phone is the culprit obviously.
I don't have many apps at all, no games.
Now i can't even move any apps to my sd card. It says my memory is too low. I can't attach pictures.or.even open my gallery without getting this.message.
I'm not following.the.usb storage thing. How's it work?
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Your phone has something like 1 gig of storage that is supposed to effectively be ram where applications are stored, and another 1 gig of memory labelled as usb storage in the phone where data can be stored, or applications can be stored if it is set to "move to sd card".
Then of course, you have the actual SD card, of whatever size is in the phone.
Seriously, I can't say enough times, if your phone is low on memory, you are doing something weird.
For example, those gameloft games, are quite huge, and the additional data they require would go to usb storage. Two or three of them can fill up the phone's space without a problem. This would be true for any phone out there.
Another likely culprit is something simple...you might have been putting your music or video or other large amounts of stuff you want to have on the phone in one of the first two mentioned locations without realizing it. If you mount your phone to the computer, you've notice how two drives show up?
One drive is the "usb storage", and another would be the actual SD card you have in the phone. I don't know why it does this, but I suspect it's common as my sony e-reader does the same thing.
To put it simply, don't store things to the phone's "memory" that you don't need to, and you'll be fine.
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I took a look and sure enough, the usb storage contained things I thought were on the sd card. I don't have much media on this phone at all. Maybe 70 pictures, no music, a couple videos, and I have no gameloft games at all.
I noticed that some apps are also stored here. I moved the little media to the sd card, but can I also move the apps here?
And is there anyway to change the settings so these files are directed here rather than the internal storage?
"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
About moving the apps to the sd card....allow me comment on that, and then rant a little bit.
Many apps can be moved to the sd card. If it's enabled by the app, you can just go to settings, applications, manage applications or whatever, and select the application you want, and in the same screen where you can uninstall an app, some apps let you move them to the sd card. Not every allows this, and in general, if you have an app with a widget on the sd card, it either won't work, or something weird happens. (Android designed limitation with widgets)
Now, to my rant.
My first android phone was a nexus 1. Great phone, but compared to a lot of phones it has a small amount of program memory. So if people were prone to having lots of apps especially large ones such as google earth, java, or whatever, that space filled up quick.
I think it was around 2.2 when Android started opening up moving apps to the sd card.
To this DAY, you can go into the market comments and pretty much read moron after moron doing things like, "I rated this a 1, because I can't move it to the sd card! Gah, you suck, let me move this to the sd card!"
Some times they would have a point, but more often than not, they wouldn't.
For example, this app that was 25k in size, had 15 comments in a row about people whining to move it to the sd card. SERIOUSLY? 25k is NOTHING, even to a phone with limited memory such as a nexus one.
And then there would be people whining about apps on SD cards for apps that you SHOULD NOT put on an sd card. "What apps wouldn't you want to run on an sd card?", you might ask.
Any app that should be always running, or able to be run by some event changing, while your phone is plugged into the computer.
For example....let's say you have a call blocking app. There are a few, I use one myself. If you move it to the sd card, that app can not function if the sd card is mounted to the computer. Phones mount memory cards just like computers do, and if it's unplugged......it doesn't work! So if you have the card mounted in the computer and your phone rings....guess what, your call blocking app doesn't work, and that annoying jerk is making your phone ring again.
Somewhere, a kitten dies.
I used the call blocking app as an example as something that even though it's not doing anything most of the time, but that when another event happens (your phone ringing), it can't do it's function.
I used to know why widgets on the sd card didn't work, but I suspect it has something to do with just they can't work reliably on the sd card. For example, my preferred music player poweramp, can be moved to the sd card, and of course it has widgets. So.....the dev made an add-on you can download where the widget stays on the phone, the app goes to the sd card.
Personally, I just keep poweramp on the phone memory. Since it's one of my 5 most commonly used apps, it only makes sense, right?
I can't remember if flash for browsers is able to be moved to the sd card yet, but what I do know is people whined and whined and whined about it, not realizing that.........the browser wouldn't work very well if flash was installed to the sd card.
Titaniumbackup and probably other similar apps can force apps to the sd card that are not normally allowed, but they will of course caution you about doing it. Some of that caution verbiage is there for reasons which are in this post, and I'm sure there's other concerns as well.
Moving along to your last question...... that depends.
Some apps can be configured to have a preferred directory location for storage, but realize that there are still phones out there that either don't have memory card slots, or don't have "usb storage". As a result, sometimes it works easily, sometimes it doesn't, but most file explorer apps make moving stuff around pretty easy.
Personally, I'm not really sure what the point of having both is, but it seems to be common. All I know is that having a memory card slot is a good thing. There are a few reasons why I wish I would have just bought a google nexus, but...... odds are the 64gig microsdxc cards work in this phone, and well, I plan to buy one.
Sorry nexus, you're hot.....but having 4 times the music or video on hand, is something I think I would enjoy more.
I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
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similar problem - Rhapsody was the culprit
I had a similar problem -- I couldn't see any files in the USB Storage folder in Files, but it was full. In my case, Rhapsody was causing the issue -- by default it downloads music to /mnt/sdcard (or something like that, I changed it and can't remember the address exactly. But from what Cirkustanz said above, the Blaze interprets that address as "USB Storage" (confusing name, that) which is really internal storage. In the advanced settings for Rhapsody I changed it to /sdcard/external_sd and all of a sudden had 700MB free in USB Storage. Lost all of my Rhapsody downloads, however, and will have to add them back.
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I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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"A couple videos" was probably the culprit, as they tend to be big files of course.
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I had a similar problem -- I couldn't see any files in the USB Storage folder in Files, but it was full. In my case, Rhapsody was causing the issue -- by default it downloads music to /mnt/sdcard (or something like that, I changed it and can't remember the address exactly. But from what Cirkustanz said above, the Blaze interprets that address as "USB Storage" (confusing name, that) which is really internal storage. In the advanced settings for Rhapsody I changed it to /sdcard/external_sd and all of a sudden had 700MB free in USB Storage. Lost all of my Rhapsody downloads, however, and will have to add them back.
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I'm having the same issues with the Samsung Blaze ~ when I go to Settings, Storage, USB Storage it shows total space 1.40 GB and available 127 MB. When I go to files, usbstorage, there is NOTHING in it and it shows "no files". I have 4 applications I've downloaded, no more. ALL of my pictures and music are on the external card. When I go to active applications, then Storage, it shows System storage 119MB of 1.12GB, USB storage 1.28GB used of 1.40GB, and SD card 4.33GB used of 7.39GB. I don't have games on it at all.
I'm not an Einstein, but I'm getting really tired of everyone telling me I'm obviously not smart enough to have a smart phone. I'm no dummy when it comes to tech.
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Its ur internal sd thats the problem u have to clean files out once in a while if u dont it will **** stuff up get astro or any file manager and go folder by folder and delete stuff and ur usb storage doesnt get used its just system internal and external thats all ur partitions in system settings it reads the part ur apps get put in when u put apps on sd as usb thats it but u cant look at them but just clean ur internal sd out clear caches and check lost.dir once in awhile too delete whatevers in there and u should be ok dont forget any videos u shoot in hd will be huge too those r in dcim... Thats why i switch my mounts and i keep my sdcards clean so i can have like 5 6 huge games and still have space but to each his own good luck tho
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My wife was complain8ng of this recently. I went through and saved all her pictures to her laptop. Cleared caches and moved apps to sd when I could but that did not help. Then I checked her download folder and found it full of videos from perez hilton .com. lol
This made the phone show that it was almost empty.
My question is why does usb storage show 1.40gb of total space with 9gb of space filled with misc.? Why does the blaze seem to handle its memory so much different than the other galaxy s phones?
Does rooting fix this strange memory setup?
Thanks guys.
(Update)
Took one photo to make sure they were being saved to the external sdcard (16gb) and now the phone says that storage is full again. When I check in settings it shows 1.20gb of pictures when there is only one photo (not sure how big but i know it is not 1gb) and it is not even stored on the phones memory? Instagram will also moy work because it says there is no storage to even take a photo.
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in one phrase VOLDSTAB / JB SWAP
if your runnings stock ICS and or ICS ROM search for VOLDSWAP.zip and or if your running JB ROMS or you have a phone that runs JB truly with out having to rom if you on ICS flash through CWM if you don't know what that is dont waste your time if you do by all means you know what must be DONE!!! lol if you dont then google the phrase CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY ( then your phone type ie Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g ) if your using JB and ROOTED ( YES BOTH OF THESE TAKE ROOT in order to be accomplushed ) if your on JB go into /system/etc/vold.fstab open with either Script Manager and or prefered editor of text choice and take the ( 0 ) on internal SD line ( ie dev mount blah blah sdcard0 change that to a
( 1 ) and then on external SD ie blah blah sdcard1 change the ( 1 ) to a ( 0 ) and reboot on the ICS just flash the voldswap.zip on the xda forum ( you will find it in the general section of the samsung blaze under thread title Internal / External Memory and go to page 2 give thanks to the dev who did that then procedd to download and then flash through CWM no need to wipe format etc blah blah but i take no cred for mentioned / said items and i damn sure dont take liability for burnt phones busted screens and just plain stupidity and also google is your FRIEND in hence of rooting rom's etc etc have a wonderful day
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if your runnings stock ICS and or ICS ROM search for VOLDSWAP.zip and or if your running JB ROMS or you have a phone that runs JB truly with out having to rom if you on ICS flash through CWM if you don't know what that is dont waste your time if you do by all means you know what must be DONE!!! lol if you dont then google the phrase CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY ( then your phone type ie Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4g ) if your using JB and ROOTED ( YES BOTH OF THESE TAKE ROOT in order to be accomplushed ) if your on JB go into /system/etc/vold.fstab open with either Script Manager and or prefered editor of text choice and take the ( 0 ) on internal SD line ( ie dev mount blah blah sdcard0 change that to a
( 1 ) and then on external SD ie blah blah sdcard1 change the ( 1 ) to a ( 0 ) and reboot on the ICS just flash the voldswap.zip on the xda forum ( you will find it in the general section of the samsung blaze under thread title Internal / External Memory and go to page 2 give thanks to the dev who did that then procedd to download and then flash through CWM no need to wipe format etc blah blah but i take no cred for mentioned / said items and i damn sure dont take liability for burnt phones busted screens and just plain stupidity and also google is your FRIEND in hence of rooting rom's etc etc have a wonderful day
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For clarity's sake, what is this going to accomplish? I'm running cm10 and can usually manage to keep the blazes memory problems under control just by keeping everything in cloud storage, but if there's another option, I'd be interested in trying it out.
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Wow, so after translating what you said back to english I need root for that option and what it does is swsp the external sd for the internal by flashing a zip or editing the fstab file.
I will have to convince my wife of that one. She does not let me root her devices. She needs them to work 100% of the time for work and she saw what I went through with the s2 trying to get JB to run early on.
I will do some more research on this.
Is this something that only happens to some blazes or do all of them have storage issues? My wife was hoping a factory wipe might fix it.
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Wow, so after translating what you said back to english I need root for that option and what it does is swsp the external sd for the internal by flashing a zip or editing the fstab file.
I will have to convince my wife of that one. She does not let me root her devices. She needs them to work 100% of the time for work and she saw what I went through with the s2 trying to get JB to run early on.
I will do some more research on this.
Is this something that only happens to some blazes or do all of them have storage issues? My wife was hoping a factory wipe might fix it.
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to answer your ? on what it does the blaze stock comes with 4 gigs of memory 2 gigs used by system leaving about 1.12 for device mem and 1.40 for internal mem with the vold.fstab swap ( voldswap.zip ) or the number swap of JB ( ie INT SDCARD 0 change to 1 and EXT SDCARD 1 change to 0 what that does is for example instead of 1.40 gigs of internal space in my personal blaze i have 32 GIGS of space instead of crappy 1.4 works the same on JB ROMS but also if you choose to add files either connect USB into USB CONNECTION or POWER DOWN phone to be on the safe side power down the phone pull the sdcard from the micro sd slot and put into adapter on your PC ( i do this cause i transfer large files and on JB the MTP is a peice of **** and the USB CONNECTION sucks to it stops all of a sudden out of no were ) ( on ICS stock/custom that's not an issue ) but that's what the swap does hope this helps for clarity and you can pick up a 32 GIG San Disk off EBAY fpr 16.98 plus S/H at like 3 bucks a pop and it works cause i have that same card off of ebay
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to answer your ? on what it does the blaze stock comes with 4 gigs of memory 2 gigs used by system leaving about 1.12 for device mem and 1.40 for internal mem with the vold.fstab swap ( voldswap.zip ) or the number swap of JB ( ie INT SDCARD 0 change to 1 and EXT SDCARD 1 change to 0 what that does is for example instead of 1.40 gigs of internal space in my personal blaze i have 32 GIGS of space instead of crappy 1.4 works the same on JB ROMS but also if you choose to add files either connect USB into USB CONNECTION or POWER DOWN phone to be on the safe side power down the phone pull the sdcard from the micro sd slot and put into adapter on your PC ( i do this cause i transfer large files and on JB the MTP is a peice of **** and the USB CONNECTION sucks to it stops all of a sudden out of no were ) ( on ICS stock/custom that's not an issue ) but that's what the swap does hope this helps for clarity and you can pick up a 32 GIG San Disk off EBAY fpr 16.98 plus S/H at like 3 bucks a pop and it works cause i have that same card off of ebay
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That is awesome three hours of reading this that and the other thing all over the internet and it comes down to swapping two numbers in a file, sheash in an idiot.
The reason I wanted to do this is I have an app that downloads two to five GB of map files and the app just cried when I tried to install it on this phone.
Thank You.
Just an FYI, even though I am using a JBCamera app to store actual photos on my external 32gb uSD card, my internal 1.4gb SDcard was still getting full frequently. Discovered the Quickpic App, creates a large almost 1gb thumbnail file on the internal SDcard. There is an option to turn it off to make this go away in Quickpic.
Hello, was hoping someone could help me or possibly explain how the Storage is structured on the 300T.
You have Local, SD & MicroSD storage. On my Evo3D phone I have Local and MicroSD and when I use my Cloud Service it stores everything on the MicroSD. On my 300T when I use my Cloud Service it stores everthing on the Internal SD storage instead of the removable MicroSD card. I have heard that once you fill up the SD storage it will overflow onto the removable MicroSD, is this true?
Basically, I want to store games and Tablet data on the local and Internal SD storage and have all my music and movies on the removable MicroSD. Are there was to do this?
Unless there is a option in the app you are using that you can change where it puts the multimedia files you download from it you will have to move them to the removable Micro SD yourself.
However I wouldn't think anything would default to the removable MicroSD because they probably think the internal sd IS the external memory. allowing your external MicroSD to not get cluttered.
I don't have much experience with tablets or ICS so I could be wrong.
I would like to get it to download apps to SD instead of internal
I'm having a problem on my TF300T
All my apps are downloading off the Market directly to the Internal Storage even though I have a 32GB Micro SD Card!
Anyone have any insight as to why this happens? My internal storage is filling up quite quickly. I think the base memory on these things is only 12GB free to start so I really need to be able to swap cards in and out and have apps install to it instead of internal.
Thanks in advance
nordis,
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I'm having a problem on my TF300T
All my apps are downloading off the Market directly to the Internal Storage even though I have a 32GB Micro SD Card!
Anyone have any insight as to why this happens? My internal storage is filling up quite quickly. I think the base memory on these things is only 12GB free to start so I really need to be able to swap cards in and out and have apps install to it instead of internal.
Thanks in advance
nordis,
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By default on ICS everything goes to the sd card. I believe there is a rooted option to move some apps to sd card, but I'm not sure. check out this thread. Starting on that page and for a little bit there is some discussion on it.
As I stated in that thread. I would like to know what apps people are installing that take up that much space.
I checked out that link, did not get much regarding the sd card. If apps are not going to install to it then what's the point?
As far as apps go that take up that much space, it's all kinds of them, from music apps, to gps nav apps. I use Sygic with this and
pull down all the maps of the us, right there your 12gb is gone. A bunch of forex trading apps, I have Root since last night.
I really need this stuff to install to the 32gb cards I have or this thing is going to be pretty useless to me real fast.
My sons is the same, with in a week he has his loaded with games to the point where the internal storage is almost full.
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nordis2010 said:
I checked out that link, did not get much regarding the sd card. If apps are not going to install to it then what's the point?
As far as apps go that take up that much space, it's all kinds of them, from music apps, to gps nav apps. I use Sygic with this and
pull down all the maps of the us, right there your 12gb is gone. A bunch of forex trading apps, I have Root since last night.
I really need this stuff to install to the 32gb cards I have or this thing is going to be pretty useless to me real fast.
My sons is the same, with in a week he has his loaded with games to the point where the internal storage is almost full.
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I'm not sure if these apps work but try them out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiY29tLndvbmd4bWluZy5hbmRyb2lkLmFwcDJzZCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEwOSwibW9iaS5pbmZvbGlmZS5hcHAyc2QiXQ..
Cool
It never occurred to me to just check the app store lol!
Thanks for that. Guess my brain is a bit laggy today, spent all night
getting this rooted.
Actually rooting it was beyond simple, the real issue was with Java not being recognized by Windows, so I couldn't run ADB.
All it came down to was the Environment Variable, once set it could see
the application and load the usb drivers. Then after getting it loaded I had to play with it, so went to sleep got up a hour later to go to work hehe.
Anyway thanks for the responses, this forum has been a God Sent!
nordis,
There's no way without root is there?
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There's no way without root is there?
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Nope, some of the data from the apps are stored in /root/data/data.... You'll need root to move them (in our case ICS, in gingerbread you were able to do this unrooted). Did it work nordis?
Wasn't at system when you sent that last response.
Hi,
Sorry was going back n forth between work and home.
I have a couple of them pulled down, all with very similar names.
A couple look really promising. I will post it once I'm finished but it looks
like the majority of these will allow me to move everything that I want to
move off of the internal storage and on to the SD card.
Well all except the XDA forums, for some reason those all state internal only.
Not a big deal though. If I can move the GPS apps off the internal storage, and
my ForEx apps I think I'm good.
nordis,
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This sucks,
Apparently some rocket scientist over at Asus decided that on a 16GB Base System that it was more than enough storage space to do anything anyone could want, and that the external storage would only be to transfer files to an from the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26151036&posted=1#post26151036
I literally wont be able to use these systems with in a couple of days from now.
Not being able to save application data on a storage drive has to be the single most asinine thing I've ever see a electronics manufacturer do. This is really a deal breaker now. If I'm unable to get this data from point A. to point B. and still be able to access it from with in the applications, these things are useless!
This is not a Opinion, this is a requirement for me.
If there was a big disclaimer some place that said HEY YOU REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 12GB OF SPACE TO WORK WITH, AND AFTER THAT YOUR S.O.L! I would have moved right past these.
I just don't even know what to do now, Play Frisbee with these things or something I guess, on the way back to the store!
nordis2010 said:
This sucks,
Apparently some rocket scientist over at Asus decided that on a 16GB Base System that it was more than enough storage space to do anything anyone could want, and that the external storage would only be to transfer files to an from the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26151036&posted=1#post26151036
I literally wont be able to use these systems with in a couple of days from now.
Not being able to save application data on a storage drive has to be the single most asinine thing I've ever see a electronics manufacturer do. This is really a deal breaker now. If I'm unable to get this data from point A. to point B. and still be able to access it from with in the applications, these things are useless!
This is not a Opinion, this is a requirement for me.
If there was a big disclaimer some place that said HEY YOU REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 12GB OF SPACE TO WORK WITH, AND AFTER THAT YOUR S.O.L! I would have moved right past these.
I just don't even know what to do now, Play Frisbee with these things or something I guess, on the way back to the store!
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So, I'm guessing the apps didn't work. Suggestion why don't you just download the maps for your current State, there's really no need to download all the maps from USA, if you're not using them everyday. If you ever need to go to another state just download the maps for that state before going. This will help you save some space. You could also consider getting the 32GB version. The only way to fill the 12gb of free space is installing about 15 Dark Meadows apps (approx. 800MB each). The larger size regular games (non THD) take around 50-100 MBs, meaning that you have space for 120 games (12GBs). This would be completely ridiculous since no one plays that much games, I have about 10 installed right now and I only play like three of them (and I'm a gamer).
Unused data should be freed, if you don't want to lose the data on those apps you barely use you can run Titanium backup to back up your data and transfer the data to your pc for later use if needed. Every media you have (videos, photos, music, etc.) you can store them in the external SD card.
Still I understand your frustration, we should be able to transfer stuff to our card without any hassle. AFAIK this isn't just an ASUS problem but an overal ICS problem.
I know
I did for just my state an the surrounding states I live near.
For the past couple of days I had been looking at running some small app on the SD card, they jump you through hoops and loops going through some partition process for the Micro SD card.
However I think I can do this right on a Windows 7 system with the Drive Management utilities built into Windows, and a Micro SD to USB reader.
Which I already have, I used for my sons DS way back, I put the card in it, through it in the system, it see's it, and tells me that it can be read, formatted, partitioned the whole 9 yards. So I will try it at work today and let you know how it turns out. If this can be partitioned this way, and then use one of these apps L2SD or something like that then it's a very simple solution.
Sorry I will post the exact name of the app I was looking at once I have tested this if it works. Along with detailed instructions.
Thanks again for all the help.
nordis,
I'm linked it all works I used a SD to USB adapter in Windows
Hi,
I'm linked and you can set it up to use the SD Card as the default for downloads now.
First things you need to do this.
You have to be have Root access on your device before you can do any of this. You have to make sure you go into settings on your device and Enable USB Debugging before you start any of this.
1. You need to partition your Micro SD Card. I used the a SD to USB Adapter, and Partitioned my 32GB Card the SD Card on a Windows 7 system as follows.
Set the 1st partition to 1GB. Set the second partition to use the remainder of the card. Download "EaseUS Partition Master Home Edition" it's free, you pull it down from www.download.com
2. You need a boot loader this is what that 1st 1GB partition is for. I used
bootice you can download it from here free http://code.google.com/p/grub4dos-ireneuszp/downloads/detail?name=bootice_0.9.2011.0512.rar
This is all you need to do with this app. Run Bootice, go "Parts Manage" > "ReFormat USB disk" (don't worry, it won't "format" the USB) > choose the dropdown option for your new first partition > click "Set Accessible" and it's done already! After that you can just click cancel/close/etc.
3. Download and run Link2SD from the Android Market, you can actually do this step first. Also this app is free.
Here is a Guide I found online for Link2SD. http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
This guide shows you how to move apps, No proprietary system apps, but those are note the ones you really have to worry about taking up space anyway. It also shows you how to go into the Link2SD settings and make your Micro SD Card your default download location from places that auto install applications like the Android Market. Very nice, this was exactly what I needed, I'm very pleased with this so far.
I have to give another thank you to jgaf for this, he pointed me in the direction of the Link 2 SD software in the first place, very much appreciated!
Sorry it took me so long to post this after I got setup it's been a busy weekend though.
Good luck.
nordis
Good to hear nordis now you can keep your TF300Ts Maybe you should make a new thread with the steps you did to get it working, so other people can find it easily.
Good idea.
Just have to finish some other things up and I will
move the details over to a new thread.
nordis,
Done, I posted it in the main Q&A section. Cleaned it up a bit, added a couple of lines where I thought people may have some questions. I hope it's pretty straight forward for everyone. I went through all this like a breeze when I partitioned my card this way, hopefully every one else will as well.
Get the 32gb version of the 300.
If you can fill up 30gb with apps, you need to learn to not keep everything you don't really use.
Put your music, movies, and photos on the Sd card, you won't have a problem with app space.
The 32gb version is only $20 more. It's not like you can't afford it.
Wasn't aware of it at the time, and they don't offer it at Best Buy
When I purchased the ones I was getting I just went to Best Buy so I could get them right then.
Didn't want to wait or order them off the net, and all that Best Buy sells apparently is the 16GB version. I wasn't aware at the time that there even was a 32GB version.
However I would fill that up eventually as well. It's just not good business marketing to make a device with such a limitation in the first place. You should be able to download, and install apps where you want them and need them.
Anyway situation is resolved for me now I'm happy.
nordis,
I continually run out of space on my blaze's internal memory.I can't sync certain things, like evernote does not have enough space to save notes. I can't do any backups because there is not enough available memory.
I don't think I have an excessive amount of apps, and have put as many on the external sd card as possible. I don't have any games stored on the internal memory, nor any media save a few pictures.
If I look at the applications on the sd card(the internal card) It says I'm using 1.3gb. Just a quick tally and I hardly have more than 70mb in the size of the applications. Am I missing something? Previous phones I have used with less memory have not encountered this. Is there any screenshot or other info that may help?
Any assistance is gratefully appreciated.
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I continually run out of space on my blaze's internal memory.I can't sync certain things, like evernote does not have enough space to save notes. I can't do any backups because there is not enough available memory.
I don't think I have an excessive amount of apps, and have put as many on the external sd card as possible. I don't have any games stored on the internal memory, nor any media save a few pictures.
If I look at the applications on the sd card(the internal card) It says I'm using 1.3gb. Just a quick tally and I hardly have more than 70mb in the size of the applications. Am I missing something? Previous phones I have used with less memory have not encountered this. Is there any screenshot or other info that may help?
Any assistance is gratefully appreciated.
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Are you on custom ROM/kernel? If so, which ROM/kernel are you using?
some questions
are you using a custom rom? do you have CWM? If you have cwm maybe a backup is on there along with titanium backups... that would eat up a gig.
Best advise is to connect it to your pc and check where all the space is being used.
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I believe by default the pictures and video files are saved to internal storage so I would check on that too.
I am using the darkknight rom build 3. Sorry for not mentioning that. But I encountered this same issue while running stock. I know the majority of the pics are on the external sd.
I do have cwm and ti on this. THese cannot be setup to use space on the external sd can they?
I would suggest booting to recovery, format /cache and dalvik-cache partitions.
Fix perms, and reboot.
You stated you had low MEMORY so that leads me to believe your device is cluttered with temp and cached files which can be easily removed by doing what I stated above.
Keep in mind ladies and gents, memory is different from storage.
However, the issues you stated above could indicate a low STORAGE issue.
So, if you are having a storage problem, then you need to figure out what is taking up so much space on your device. That can usually be determined by going to settings>storage and looking at the output that is displayed.
For more advice, please let me know that it is a low MEMORY issue or a STORAGE issue.
Try out an app called DiskUsage, it works a lot like WinDirStat for PCs.
That way you can find what's taking up a ton of data
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
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LiveFaster said:
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
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It comes with a 4gb external sdcard
LiveFaster said:
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
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It comes with 4gigs internal and 4gigs external. The internal is used for the OS and system apps. I installed GTA anniversary edition and it took up all my USB storage...then it got deleted.
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I would suggest booting to recovery, format /cache and dalvik-cache partitions.
Fix perms, and reboot.
You stated you had low MEMORY so that leads me to believe your device is cluttered with temp and cached files which can be easily removed by doing what I stated above.
Keep in mind ladies and gents, memory is different from storage.
However, the issues you stated above could indicate a low STORAGE issue.
So, if you are having a storage problem, then you need to figure out what is taking up so much space on your device. That can usually be determined by going to settings>storage and looking at the output that is displayed.
For more advice, please let me know that it is a low MEMORY issue or a STORAGE issue.
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Sorry for not clarifying, its a storage issue. I should have been a little more exact with my posting...
Incidentally, I cleared up about half a gig by deleting the ti backup folder's contents,
You can change the location of your backups in Titanium by going to preferences-> and scroll down to 'Backup folder location'. Look next to the 'DETECT' button and that will show you the current path. It defaults to 'mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup'. Change it to 'mnt/sdcard/external_sd/TitaniumBackup' by pressing the back button and navigating to the right place. The removable storage (sd card) on the Blaze is the sdcard/external_sd path. That way you will still be able to have your backups.
Thanks, there was about half a gig in the ti backup folder, so this should fix my problem.
Is there a way to store apps on the external sd and still get the widgets to work? And also to free up the internal storage?
Thanks
No, sorry, widgets need to be on the internal storage to work properly.
How do i get games like gta and spectral souls to install to my external?? Those games took up all the internal memory. It type suck because theres no space to cache up music from my google music library.
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How do i get games like gta and spectral souls to install to my external?? Those games took up all the internal memory. It type suck because theres no space to cache up music from my google music library.
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Link2sd app you can force move those resource/memory hog programs
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OK so this is my problem...and need help quick BEFOOREE!!
Ok....so I've had the phone for about three months now and i'm beginning to think that this is a problem that I can't resolve on my own..meaning I might have to get a new phone...I'm running the custom ROM and have not rooted the phone.. The problem started when I tried to sedn pictures through my messages. The phone would say..Not enough memory get rid of some stuff.... so i started uninstalling apps that i really don't need. Problem didn't seem to resolve itself, so since everything is backed up to googles ( as far as contacts and apps) I did a system reset to no avail. Seems like I'm having the same problem. Now I have an 8Gb Sd card mounted in system and when I try to move apps into the Sd card it says not enough memory??? Even after system reset. So this is what it says on my storage window... System Storage 0.89GB....USB Storage ( by the way wtf is this??) 1.40 GB and then the SD card with Total space : 7.40 GB Available 7.35GB...I can't seem to move anything into the USB or Sd cards... and yes the Sd card is mounted, or so the system says.... for the sake of not throwing the phone out of the window please help!!
I'm noticing....*whilst* playing around that it seems my phone thinks this USB storage is the SD card. when i check applications and see those in the SD card it shows me those on USB storage...and nothing seems to go to Sd card. I tried downloading apps2 sd and it says same thing...not enough memory...because those few appas I have are taking the whole 2 GB's of space in this invisible usb storage??? Still need help. what the hell is this usb storage and what makes it...looking around i found on the samsung forums that (You must enable USB storage to mount the SD card) i don't remerber doing this and have looked everywhere to turn it off...btw I have the phone replacement thing from T-Mobile..would rooting the phone affect that?.Since it looks to be my only option...I though doing a system reset would fix this but seems not...
in settings-storage, the sd card shows your external sd, usb storage shows the internal space and system shows the system space. this phone has very small system space. my solution was to root the phone and remove the unneeded apps and the "bloat" that tmobil gave us so kindly. you can find guides that show you what can safely be removed, or you can install a custom rom which already has been thinned out. aside from this, clearing the app data in setting-applications can recover some of the space but depending on which app you clear you may need to login to apps like facebook the next time you use that app.
the options in there will have a 'move to sd' button if the app can be moved otherwise it will be greyed out. moving any that can be moved will help.
next will be the stock messaging app that stores its info in system, consider trying out go-sms or handcent as your messaging app and they will store most info on your external sd and help save system space...
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Guess ill try rooting it. My problem seems to be that the phone thinks the Usb storage is the sd storage...and then external sd is actual sd. Sucks...cause it seemed to be a decent phone..but your tight..the bloatware is rediculous..any. smooth custom Roms u can reccomend?
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ive been using tweaked and from what ive read, dark knight is nice also... since flashing tweaked i havent gotten the memory message at all, but i do move everything that is movable to sd...
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Hey guys,
I would like to buy 16GB version, but it's on long delay on Moto site and I need to ship this phone to my nieces in Ukraine by the end of August. So I bought 8GB version from Amazon to play with it and see how it works and really love the phone. The storage is the only sour point. 8 GB just does not cut it and Moto does not allow to use SD card storage for app installation. Moving apps to SD card works only for some apps and even then most of the storage being used is Internal, so 3-4 large games and this phone would be out of storage.
Is there is a way to force apps to install fully to SD card? Root + App2SD maybe? I do not have much experience with rooting and would like to avoid it, if possible due to desire to stay on OTA updates schedule.
Any advise?
To be honest rooting is your best bet for an optimal experience. I'm using CM and this phone can move more apps of you install the smaller version of google apps if it is really a big problem your only bet is to order the 16 and wait.
Transfer app to SD Card to free up space
Currently, there seems no tool can help you to move apps to SD card to free up space, but there indeed tools can be used to transfer photos, pictures, music,videos, contacts etc. to the SD card. If you are interest in it, you can read some tutorial for help
Transferring music and photos works wonderfully. And Google Play Music as well as Google Photos supports saving files on SD Card as default which makes it even easier to manage your storage. The apps though is a huge issue. I installed yesterday Walking Dead and it ate more then 1GB of storage of the puny 3GB available out of the box. Add here the app cache as well as storage required to do OTA updates and you really will struggle to install any large apps on the phone without running in 'out of memory' error messages.
The phone is wonderful otherwise - light, bright screen with excellent auto-dimming, good speaker and even better camera, responsive, waterproof (yes, I tested ), pure Lollipop Android experience , etc. etc.