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What would you do if you were sent 2 g2xs for replacement instead of 1? :/

Ok I got a freezing g2x monday as a new web online purchase. I then called this morning to get a exchange and they wanted to charge me and blah blah it was a hassle. Took two hours for them to finally agree to give me a new phone, not refurbished, no fees and overnight shipping. Except his boss was out and he needed him to sign off on it.
Well anyways, once before I had a replacement not get ordered so now I check my **** 5 hours later. Well, I called back and got this lovely rep, she didn't see the new order and I said, "well the gentleman that helped me before had to wait on his supervisor to sign off and maybe that's why you don't see it yet?" She then just kinda kept blabbing and said, "Well, ill make sure ones ordered right now so we know, Ill get you a confirmation number as well". I said "thanks".
Well I checked my emails about a half hour later for the confirmation email and there was 2 order numbers. One at 2:03 pm and another at 2:28. I figured well ****. I read before where this happened but forgot what they did. I also got ups tracking numbers for each one. So Im assuming 2 are on there way.
So if they send 2 what do I do? Well I was majorly jacked around today and have spent many many dollars to tmobile. LOL SO im thinking sounds fair. I mean how can they know and charge me? they both were free and say free on the order page, and they only need 1 device back right?
So im thinking about keeping them both, and selling one. I just got a photo radar ticket and could use the 300 bucks for that.. lmfaoooo
SO, I think If there's no way for them to tell, and I get two, (PRAY) and they only need one back. HOW CAN I GO WRONG?
WHAT WOULD YOU DO WWYD? lol

Yikes not this type of thread again. Massive debate
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if it's in their system that they sent you 2 they'll know and will probably ask you eventually

Personally, I think its morally wrong, but if you're in desperate need of the money, say you only received one...
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If I knew there was no possible way they would know they sent me two than I would do what any working man in this type of economy would do. SELL ONE!
Chances are their system knows you have two so I would just call them and let them know. Or call and beat around the bush. Ask vague questions to see if they know you have two.
I know there is going to be some people on here calling ne immoral but o well. Unless you've never done anything wrong in your life than your just preaching to the choir.
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If its not in their system that they sent two I'd keep it. No shame in my game.

I agree with the majority. Times are hard and T-Mobile screwed us over with the G2x by offering most of us a myTouch 4g or a G2 as a replacement. Do what you gotta do!
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Ok so why would they check my system? And just look for a issue?
I don't see them finding out even with it in the system.... cause what's that mean? Ok in there system? How do they go, oh woops we accidently sent him two. Hell they barely know anything ....
Even if in system how will it get back to me when they get a original back...?
Tmobile.com doesnt even show any order placed... They did it directly through the loyalty department and telesales...
If they get there phone back and there not charging for either, why would they hassle me?
I get there system could show they sent me two, but if they don't catch it now, why would they later? And why would they just search my account going huh? Lol especially if I lay low and not call em...
I'm gonna take my chances and play dumb if they find out... not my fault, hell maybe they told me they were sending me a free one for my troubles? Lol
EDIT: Hell if anything ill just hold onto it for a bit and see if they catch it within a couple weeks. If not, I should be good. If so, Ill just send back.
MEH, I think if this is their fubar. I just play stupid. HUH, I have 2 lines with g2xs, I thought they were sending 2. lol

also, wouldnt it be better their both in their system? instead of 1 not being in it? cause then that phone disappears and now its got to be tracked and theres a signature? Where as this way, its accounted for, and not missing. Its delivered?
I dont know. I think Im gonna hang onto it for about a month and see what they do. I just dont see how they can make 2 orders send them, get the phone back they wanted and still catch it. If 2 was just sent with only 1 order, that IMO sounds worse.
Like Jw had happen, Tmobile told him to keep his G2x when he got a sensation also. Maybe they sent me 2 for my troubles hell. Like I said, maybe I said I even called and they told me dont worry about it and just keep it. Now im being charged?
Tmobile and their notes are so all over the place I think I could even get out of it If I needed too.
WHO knows.
IF both phones are on a separate order, and both are delivered, and the defective one gets back. Wheres there a issue to them? like I said they dont know what a rep did for me. The last rep could have hooked me up. Like they did JW

If you got tracking numbers for both, they will know for sure you received two. Not worth the risk of you selling it only to have tmobile suddenly slap an over 200 bill in your account.
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unique77 said:
If you got tracking numbers for both, they will know for sure you received two. Not worth the risk of you selling it only to have tmobile suddenly slap an over 200 bill in your account.
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again. how would they even go about finding out? both phones are sent, delivered. Paid. Dont see how they could charge me later.
My point is, ok, they see 2 orders. Now what? and who sees it? Is there a person just randomly looking at accounts for weirdness?
I just dont see the scenario where they all the sudden just randomly audit my account and go hmmmm . Why are there 2 phones sent.
BOTH PAID, sent, Delivered. Now bam its just notes in the past now. They get the phone back they wanted. HOW CAN THEY TELL? ya the notes or online will show 2 phones sent, but again, bills and etc are computer automated generated. So if it shows no charges. HOW CAN I BE BILLED?
I can see if I paid 249 for one. Got sent two and was like ****. the paperwork also says 249. THEY BOTH Say PAID.
SCENARIO: rep just randomly looks, sees 2 phones, and just sends me a bill? The phone is out of their hands.

If two have been sent separately then each is going to have its own RMA number. If that RMA number is not scanned in by T-Mobile's receiving department then in all likelihood your account will be hit with an unreturned item fee.
So in order to avoid a lot of unnecessary hassle with your account you need to call them and tell them what happened. They will then tell you to either refuse one or which package to use for your original phone and which one to use for the extra.
Ideally it'd be nice to receive both and test each to see which is the least problematic (I just don't have faith that any G2X is actually fully reliable) and then return the buggiest. However you only have a one week before they'll tack on that unreturned item fee, and while I'm sure they'll refund it once they get the phone, it's just more work for you.

unique77 said:
If you got tracking numbers for both, they will know for sure you received two. Not worth the risk of you selling it only to have tmobile suddenly slap an over 200 bill in your account.
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Im just trying to find all loop holes. WHO IS THEY? the computer? Or Reps? cause if I didnt call for say 2 months, then what? who sees it? There both paid, not cost anything. WHO SEES IT?

KeithLM said:
If two have been sent separately then each is going to have its own RMA number. If that RMA number is not scanned in by T-Mobile's receiving department then in all likelihood your account will be hit with an unreturned item fee.
So in order to avoid a lot of unnecessary hassle with your account you need to call them and tell them what happened. They will then tell you to either refuse one or which package to use for your original phone and which one to use for the extra.
Ideally it'd be nice to receive both and test each to see which is the least problematic (I just don't have faith that any G2X is actually fully reliable) and then return the buggiest. However you only have a one week before they'll tack on that unreturned item fee, and while I'm sure they'll refund it once they get the phone, it's just more work for you.
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No I dont think thats true. Cause the phone Im replacing now, which was brand new, came with a RA number/sticker and I didnt have to send anything back. So, if they didnt get anything back but sent a RA number, why didnt they charge me?
Also the new phones are coming just like this. NEW, not exchanges. So, just like this one I have now, With the RA number, Ill keep one, just set it aside for a bit and see what happens, and then the other one ill send my replacement back.
I see what your getting at with the RA number but again, my new device had one also and it needed no return. So I dont think the new package would be treated any different.
EDIT: so, again ill cover my tail. Not open the box just hold onto it. Then if charged or issues Ill just return it. They will credit my account back. Ill just say I forgot about it, been very busy and should have returned it. Give it till next billing cycle and if Im in the clear. Do what I need with it. You would think that if they will find out after the fact. They would have found out before they were sent. I mean, same time within 20 mins of each other, they couldnt figure that out, but yet they will figure out after the fact? MEH call me a believer but I think Im golden.

I wish i could get sent 2 that way i could hold up the wobbly legs of my table on both sides.

smashpunks said:
No I dont think thats true. Cause the phone Im replacing now, which was brand new, came with a RA number/sticker and I didnt have to send anything back. So, if they didnt get anything back but sent a RA number, why didnt they charge me?
Also the new phones are coming just like this. NEW, not exchanges. So, just like this one I have now, With the RA number, Ill keep one, just set it aside for a bit and see what happens, and then the other one ill send my replacement back.
I see what your getting at with the RA number but again, my new device had one also and it needed no return. So I dont think the new package would be treated any different.
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After I received my replacement I sat on it a few days before doing anything with it and waited 6 days before returning the original and then 1 week to the day from which I received it I got a text from T-Mobile kindly reminding me to return it. No charge was put on my account as they received it that day or the next.
Just because there was an RMA sticker with your first doesn't mean anything. In the fulfillment department they would probably scan the box they are shipping you and enter it as a new or replacement device. If it's a replacement then there is a timed event placed in their database set up to activate on the RMA sticker that is being sent to you. If it is not scanned within a certain period you'll be charged.
This is an automated event. No one is sitting around looking at people's accounts to determine if something is expected from them.
You can play dumb and try and pretend that you didn't receive it, although I received e-mails from them telling me my phone had been delivered, so they are tracking it. You'll know within 1-2 weeks whether or not they are expecting two phones returned from you. If you try to rip off T-Mobile just wait before doing anything with the spare phone.

KeithLM said:
After I received my replacement I sat on it a few days before doing anything with it and waited 6 days before returning the original and then 1 week to the day from which I received it I got a text from T-Mobile kindly reminding me to return it. No charge was put on my account as they received it that day or the next.
Just because there was an RMA sticker with your first doesn't mean anything. In the fulfillment department they would probably scan the box they are shipping you and enter it as a new or replacement device. If it's a replacement then there is a timed event placed in their database set up to activate on the RMA sticker that is being sent to you. If it is not scanned within a certain period you'll be charged.
This is an automated event. No one is sitting around looking at people's accounts to determine if something is expected from them.
You can play dumb and try and pretend that you didn't receive it, although I received e-mails from them telling me my phone had been delivered, so they are tracking it. You'll know within 1-2 weeks whether or not they are expecting two phones returned from you. If you try to rip off T-Mobile just wait before doing anything with the spare phone.
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Ok, now that makes some sense.
Yea, sounds like maybe they could know in that mannor, but, will see. Hopefully they are sent as new devices and not a replacement. Ill do my research up till then and see whats up. Ill definitely See whats up but your post made good sense. THis is why I made the thread. To see which actually happens..
EDIT: the way they had to do the exchange/new phone was like just having a new order. Not replacement. cause of some loop hole. So maybe since the had to do it that way they wont have the replacement RA number. WHO knows. LOL
but interesting and Im gonna play a lil
also, i just remembered that I before have gotten order placed/ replacement placed texts also. Ive yet to receive these. I think because were going around the usual way to get me the phone. So I dont know. cause even online under recent order info on MYTMOBILE.COM it doesnt show any orders placed either. VERY strange.
even when I call 611 it doesnt have any info on orders. It just says my old order that was already shipped that im replacing. GONNA KEEP A EYE ON THAT. I think the way they had to loop around may help

If you are a thief, you are a thief. If you are a honest good person, you are a honest good person. This should not be a difficult decision.
If I can screw you out of a few hundred bucks, should I? Based on many responses I should rip you off for all I can.

Give them 60-90 days from when they shipped you the phones. after that, they don't have a leg to stand on. (this is of course unless they contact you about it prior to 90 days)

jcbofkc said:
If you are a thief, you are a thief. If you are a honest good person, you are a honest good person. This should not be a difficult decision.
If I can screw you out of a few hundred bucks, should I? Based on many responses I should rip you off for all I can.
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lol I love your response. HEHE Make me sound like a theif and if I do this im no good. LMFAOOO. that said. Im doing it. Hmmmm I think like this. Ive spent hours of time fighting just for a replacement. Bought a g2x full price, vibrant full price, sensation for 300 and had it replaced like crazy in which they also forgot once to send a replacement so I waited a week for nothing. Pay 160 a month. Blah blah. So in a year ive spentttt?
about 1300 on phones alone. 160x12= 1,920 dollars. Waiting for mad time for replacements cause they put out crap (sensation) and half the lgs lol. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Im gonna play a lil
ALSO, IF I screwed you over half the time, overcharged you, throttled you for what your paying for, had service shotty, rude customer service, forgot some orders, charged you fees etc. Then yes, BY ALL MEANS PLEASE IF I DROP MY WALLET, take that ***** I deserve it

URGENT: How do I remove custom Rom on Infuse 4G?

Hi all,
Long story short, I was tricked today to buy an infuse 4G telling me that everything was working perfectly. Had it shipped, and of course, it doesn't read any SIM card. I'm brand new to android, so I have no idea what's going on.
I tried calling AT&T customer support and of course they couldn't help. I finally found out that the build version is Infused v2.1.0 and the firmware is 2.3.3
I just read that Infused v.2.1.0 is a custom rom, so I'm wondering how I can go back to the stock version and see if I can get a SIM card to be read in this phone.
PLEASE if anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it!!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116251
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Thanks. But I think I may have found an even worse problem.
Can someone take a look in the SIM tray and tell me how many pins there are? My BlackBerry has 4, and from the looks of it, it looks like this infuse has 3, but 1 of the pins is missing.
I wish I could take a clear picture of it, but it's near impossible to see. Can anyone with an infuse confirm what theirs looks like?

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Thanks. But I think I may have found an even worse problem.
Can someone take a look in the SIM tray and tell me how many pins there are? My BlackBerry has 4, and from the looks of it, it looks like this infuse has 3, but 1 of the pins is missing.
I wish I could take a clear picture of it, but it's near impossible to see. Can anyone with an infuse confirm what theirs looks like?
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They should be 6;(3 in front of another 3; Meaning: 3 slightly visible from the metal, and 3 under the metal cover that holds the SIM card on place)
If you bought it via ebay or for that matter anything with Paypal in the middle, you have 45 days from the purchase day to enter a dispute. If you pay cash to a guy you will never see... then your probably screwed... i have heard of "sim" adapters like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2-1-GSM...764414?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a69e5b2fe
that could "probably" fix that.... or probably not since the adapter also needs the full working pins.... anyways... i recommend (if payed via paypal) to enter a dispute provide full information and make sure the add didnt mentioned anything about " NOT WORKING Sim tray" because if the advertisement of the phone just SLIGHTLY mentioned its your problem... but if it was advertised as WORKING then your complain will proceed.
I hope you can solve it man.
Good Luck

Thanks for the response. Met up locally and paid cash.
He left a picture of himself on the phone hahaha. Anything I can do with that? Selling shady material? I don't know what to do now! Cash is not king

Since you paid cash you don't have much in the way of recourse since you know about the guy, I assume.
You could pursue via small claims, check the local authorities, maybe this person is a known thief; but, I would let this be a lesson on verifying that something is fully functional before paying someone cash for anything. Sorry, I know it sucks. =-(
What I thought was, I'd become one of those deaf-mutes; or should I?

I've been hosed from a dude who sold me an atv that was a pile of shiz, so I know how you feel. Id contact him and see what he'll do for you, I'm sure he will tell you it was fine when he sold it, than id talk to the authorities, if all else fail than id have it repaired from samsung.
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Caveat emptor at it's finest right here.
In your first post, you said you had it shipped. Then, in another post, you said you met up locally and paid cash. So which was it?
Either way, hopefully you didn't pay too terribly much for the phone, since you can generally find it brand new for under $100.
The only real chance you have at a remedy here is to call the seller back and hope he has a heart, or that this was just some misunderstanding.
In our credit driven economy, I always find it suspicious when people demand cash. I'm sure you learned your lesson, and hopefully it wasn't too costly.

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Called him/been texting with him this morning saying "I already spent the money" lol. Long story short, it is what it is. I've sold this guy my iPhone before and so I asked for my iPhone back instead. Of course, that's been sold as well. Well I have my iphone imei on file, so could very well just report it as stolen since this guy is unwilling to comply. Don't really have many options.

Sorry if this is off, because I dont know if u can install a rom if the phone is locked. But if the phone is locked it will not read a sim card. And depending on the sim card itself. It will not read any prr paid sim except tmobile and only att if it is not a gophone sim card

smoh said:
Thanks for your contributions:
Called him/been texting with him this morning saying "I already spent the money" lol. Long story short, it is what it is. I've sold this guy my iPhone before and so I asked for my iPhone back instead. Of course, that's been sold as well. Well I have my iphone imei on file, so could very well just report it as stolen since this guy is unwilling to comply. Don't really have many options.
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real nice... file a false police report because you werent smart enough to check the sim before giving him the money.

[Q] Lost My Sensation, HTCSense Website not working anymore?

I was at the gym yesterday and apparently I might have left it there by mistake, I went to the htc sense site to track it down but apparently they 'renovated it' and now you can't track it! Is there any way I can track it down after its lost (or stolen I guess)?
I downloaded Plan B but apparently it didn't install correctly or something because I didnt get any email yet (probably since there isn't any wifi where the phone is)
Quite a stupid move from htc to shut down such a good feature like that :/

Sorry for your loss, that really sucks dude. HTC did warn people they were going to remove that feature a couple of months ago. I rather liked it as well. The only other thing I can think of right now is, try having your service provider track it down using the phones gps. Sometimes it works. Good luck.
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Well Im gonna go to the police station tomorrow, they SHOULD be able to track it down, but I highly doubt their efficiency -.-'
Thanks mate : ) Also, from now onwards, I'm installing Prey on every device I own!

Uh the police won't find ****. Call your carrier and find out the insurance company if sprint or Verizon its asurion or similar. I hope ya got insurance I don't think $6 a month is bad.
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Vodafone doesn't track phones where I live, only the police do that. They are successful (sometimes) but not in my past cases haha.
Oh well, we'll see what'll happen.

R3dn0ze said:
Well Im gonna go to the police station tomorrow, they SHOULD be able to track it down, but I highly doubt their efficiency -.-'
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Because the police have nothing better to do than to look for your LOST phone...smh.

Avast. 'Nuff said.

Behold_this said:
Because the police have nothing better to do than to look for your LOST phone...smh.
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Really? By saying lost I was being polite. If I really just lost it at the gym it would be on the machine where I left it on, which it wasn't the next day. Whoever took it took off the sim card cos it wont dial and I had it charged an hour before gym so the battery should still be working.
So yes, still think its just 'lost'?

R3dn0ze said:
Really? By saying lost I was being polite. If I really just lost it at the gym it would be on the machine where I left it on, which it wasn't the next day. Whoever took it took off the sim card cos it wont dial and I had it charged an hour before gym so the battery should still be working.
So yes, still think its just 'lost'?
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Umm...YES!
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I was at the gym yesterday and apparently I might have left it there by mistake
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You left it somewhere, someone picked it up, YOUR FAULT! It's not stolen and whoever has it would not be prosecuted for picking it up. Maybe you should pay more attention to your $500 piece of technical equipment. Only a truly entitled person would believe that the police should take time away from investigating murders, kidnappings, and assaults, to find their phone. Is your phone that important? Is this what you are telling us?

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Umm...YES!
You left it somewhere, someone picked it up, YOUR FAULT! It's not stolen and whoever has it would not be prosecuted for picking it up. Maybe you should pay more attention to your $500 piece of technical equipment. Only a truly entitled person would believe that the police should take time away from investigating murders, kidnappings, and assaults, to find their phone. Is your phone that important? Is this what you are telling us?
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Maybe he should pay more attention but you cannot say it is his fault somebody took it and didn't give it to the gyms reception or to the police. I would do so if I found something lost. In my opinion they should track it because stealing is a crime too, isn't it.
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R3dn0ze said:
So yes, still think its just 'lost'?
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It's not lost, you just don't know who has it.

LLLeeo said:
Maybe he should pay more attention but you cannot say it is his fault somebody took it and didn't give it to the gyms reception or to the police. I would do so if I found something lost. In my opinion they should track it because stealing is a crime too, isn't it.
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Thank god someone with an open mind found this thread :f
Anyway, there aint much to do for now I guess. Thanks guys

Maybe you're lucky. As I heard HTC maintainances the HTC Sense website at the moment. But if the thief is smart enough he knows he could easyly reset the phone and you cannot track it anymore. Did you write to the support about your problem?

LLLeeo said:
Maybe you're lucky. As I heard HTC maintainances the HTC Sense website at the moment. But if the thief is smart enough he knows he could easyly reset the phone and you cannot track it anymore. Did you write to the support about your problem?
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Indeed I did, well I had a custom rom so maybe he'd find it difficult due to the different drivers that might not be compatible with what he's used to. Also, I contacted support and they said the phone can be 'locked' if I give them the IMEI and Serial Number, which I did. lets see what will happen!

R3dn0ze said:
Indeed I did, well I had a custom rom so maybe he'd find it difficult due to the different drivers that might not be compatible with what he's used to. Also, I contacted support and they said the phone can be 'locked' if I give them the IMEI and Serial Number, which I did. lets see what will happen!
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Wouldn't the phone just be locked out? I'm also curious... if it was used in a different country/provider, would it work? I would assume it'd work since the chances of your provider blocking the IMEI in the entire earth would be unlikely! If so, the answers seem pretty straightforward as to what will happen lol. Either it'll get sold or just not be usable!

KAwAtA said:
Wouldn't the phone just be locked out? I'm also curious... if it was used in a different country/provider, would it work? I would assume it'd work since the chances of your provider blocking the IMEI in the entire earth would be unlikely! If so, the answers seem pretty straightforward as to what will happen lol. Either it'll get sold or just not be usable!
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Nono HTC told me they will block the phone themselves, so apparently it should be unusable worldwide I hope!

If it is in the wrong hands then it has probably been torn down and used for parts at this point. It's become a growing trend around here with lots of aftermarket repair companies getting busted for being nothing more than chop shops...

Well, here's what they said after giving them my IMEI number
"Dear sir again, we are really sorry for what happened with your device and we apologize for the inconvenience regarding HTCSense functionality. We will enter your data in our system, and we will list your device as stolen one. As soon as somebody tries to contact us with this data we will notify the authorities.
Thank you for your patience and understanding. "

[Q] IMEI numbers matching phone and box?

Long story short.. I sold a phone on eBay with the original box. However, the phone was replaced twice due to sleep death issues. So it turns out that the phone I had sold IMEI number was different then that of the original sticker on the box. This is normal as when you replace a phone, they don't send you a whole new box, they just give you a new phone.
So my question is.. why would a buyer make a big deal about the box's IMEI number not matching the phone's IMEI number? I can only think that he's trying to re-sell it somehow to make a profit, but can't because the numbers don't match.
His reason is "because customs won't allow phones into Europe without the original box with IMEI numbers matching". Riiiiiiight
Anyone care to speculate? Thanks.

So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.

jianC said:
So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.
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Exactly. He said he was speaking with the airport and they would charge $30-$40 dollars to get some "copies" of proof of ownership so he wants to be compensated for this in a partial refund. When I asked him for the number to this airport so I could verify this obvious bs story myself.. he all of a sudden had to ask his friend for the number and would get back to me. And still hasn't 5 hours later.
Obviously, he's trying to do something dodgy here and wants to be compensated $30-40 for something that he screwed up on by not making sure the IMEI numbers match beforehand. I just can't figure out what.

if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...

Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.

B-Naughty said:
if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...
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Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
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Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.
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I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.

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Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.
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this was a US to US transaction? i thought you shipped overseas... he doesn't have a leg to stand on... no part of your transaction said anything about what you do with it afterwards... or i warranty this, yada yada... it was no returns... i would imagine your sale outlined the phone in its condition... like you said, he should've inquired about that... he's taking it with him??? tell him throw the [email protected] box away....

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i would tell him throw the [email protected] box away....
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Hahaha.. exactly my thoughts. XD And yes, US to US transaction. Then all of a sudden 2 weeks later he needs the original box to match the phone so he can bring it to Europe with him as a gift. Smh. People will make anything up when they screw up instead of just admitting they made a mistake. Oh well heh.
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Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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Did you get any receipts or paperwork for the replacements. This may be enough if you can send him those as proof.
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austin420 said:
Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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People have gotten around this. All the buyer has to do is do a chargeback on their CC. Dirty business.

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I'm supper annoyed.

A friend of mine keeps asking whether he should buy a new note5, and then after a week return it but with a different note 5 still in new condition in the box. I keep telling him that he can't beat the system, and T-Mobile will smack his tushi the moment it realizes what he did. But he won't listen, so now I made this thread to see what you guys say. I personally never see employees check the imei on returns, but that's just me.

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A friend of mine keeps asking whether he should buy a new note5, and then after a week return it but with a different note 5 still in new condition in the box. I keep telling him that he can't beat the system, and T-Mobile will smack his tushi the moment it realizes what he did. But he won't listen, so now I made this thread to see what you guys say. I personally never see employees check the imei on returns, but that's just me.
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Haven't you guys heard about IMEI numbers yet? LOL
That's the first thing Tmoble checks to make sure its
the same as the original purchased phone's IMEI...
They do that not only to prevent fraud but but it's the
law regarding refunds, exchanges and repair.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

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I'd say go about your business, and don't think about it anymore. You did what you could, and he's a grown man. If he wants to play around with karma, stand back and let him.

helikido said:
A friend of mine keeps asking whether he should buy a new note5, and then after a week return it but with a different note 5 still in new condition in the box. I keep telling him that he can't beat the system, and T-Mobile will smack his tushi the moment it realizes what he did. But he won't listen, so now I made this thread to see what you guys say. I personally never see employees check the imei on returns, but that's just me.
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I'm just going to weigh in my two cents first of all when a phone is purchased the imei is scanned and allows it to be used on the network once a return happens that same imei is scanned maybe it's not physically scanned it may just be auto filled from the receipt but the new phone will stop working and won't be activated because it was "returned" tell your friend to no try and scam companies like that they're not stupid and returns are done a certain way for this very reason and if he is caught he could face trouble with the law just be honest and tell him to buy a new phone and stick with it.

helikido said:
A friend of mine keeps asking whether he should buy a new note5, and then after a week return it but with a different note 5 still in new condition in the box. I keep telling him that he can't beat the system, and T-Mobile will smack his tushi the moment it realizes what he did. But he won't listen, so now I made this thread to see what you guys say. I personally never see employees check the imei on returns, but that's just me.
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I hope this isn't one of those scenarios where the friend is really you. First off, why buy a new one when he already has a like new one? If it's a T-Mobile note 5, unless it's blocked for non payment or something the phones still under manufacturer warranty and T-Mobile will exchange it. The whole story sounds a bit fishy to me tbh.