Hi everyone,
i want to ask some question about s pen.
is it possible to use note 4 s pen with note pro for more sensitive,
is Advanced s pen works with note pro
finally
What can we do for more sensitive ?
thanks for your answers.
It's basically the same pen. I've used my Note 4 spen a few times while taking extended notes on my tablet, I honestly don't think their is a difference. It's the wacom hardware in the device that is responsible for most, if not all, functionality.
In summary ... yes the note 4 pen works, no its not any better
The increased sensitivity of the Note 4 lies in the number of pressure points the sensor in the screen can detect, not in the pen itself. You can use any Spen with it, but it won't increase the sensitivity.
As for increasing the sensitivity, you'll need to change the potentiometer. Follow the guide here (Ignore the offset dial): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
All the premade spens will work work other note device, ie;I'm using my note 3 pen with my note 4and it works rather well if not exactly the same. ..it's the software that controls the pressure and poem points etc etc. ..
Hope that helps?
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Hi everyone,
We all know that both Galaxys (see the title) have equal hardware (1.6 GHz vs 1.4 GHz; no NFC for the tablet) so I'm wondering which is the best for me? (Asking for advice and opinions)
What I want:
-Great to prepare presentations
-Like photo editing
-Fun stuff
And Thanks for all...
N7000, but...
I have had the N7000 since it came out. I really like it but the small screen is an issue in doing things like you describe with the pen. OK for notes, but the 10.1 is much better for that and other pen uses.
Thank You!!
But the S Pen capabilities are the same in both devices? I mean the pen shortcuts (for example) ,as shown in some N7000 videos, are available for the tablet?
Yes, but the larger screen means its easier to manipulate data/text. You can see almost an A4 page whereas on a smaller screen note 2 you will be scrolling around a bit or looking at really small pages...
You can make and receive calls on both devices (n8000 model for note 10.1) so that's the same, I tend to use my bluetooth stylus on the note 10.1 as its easier and more private than speakerphone. Also it looks better to have a pen in your pocket than a bluetooth headset attached to your ear....
Basically, if you can live without the nfc and the hd screen then the note is better all round as it is easier to use if you intend to use it for business or pleasue. Reading books, watching movies, playing games, surfing the web and writing text are easier on the bigger screen.
If I sound biased, it's because I am... You are on the note 10.1 forum...
midi_1996 said:
Thank You!!
But the S Pen capabilities are the same in both devices? I mean the pen shortcuts (for example) ,as shown in some N7000 videos, are available for the tablet?
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Yes after jellybean update all note 2 spen features are now on note 10.1 , personally I tried both but I've chosen note 10.1 because of better multiwindow integration and the pen seems better on note 10.1 and talking about the proceasor they both have same 4412 processor and you can safe overclock your note up to 1.6 without problems as it is already exists in samsung stock kernel
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Hi
Can I ask what apps is everyone using for drawing?, I hear layerpaint and sketchbook pro but is there any others and what is the consensus regarding drawing with them. Can I expect intuos4 type drawing with the 10.1 or should I level down my expectations?.
Another question is what resolution do these apps work on?, could I create a new document or import a 300dpi for inking and colouring?.
Is there any decent vector apps too guys?, the ipad has loads but for the love of god the only thing stopping me selling it is the music apps and games my sis plays.
Thank you
I find that for a portable electronic sketchpad the Note 10 is pretty excellent. I don't think that it stacks up fully against an intuous and a desktop running premium production software, but it isn't a toy either. The digitizer is responsive, you have adjustable pen sensitivity, some pretty decent nibs to give the pen a comfortable feel on the screen, a small selection of pens, and the software has enough power for a lot of tasks.
Sketchbook Pro was previously based on screen resolution, but they've added selectable canvas sizes now (the maximum being 2560x1600). Unfortunately that's not an amazing resolution but it's enough for things that aren't poster sized I find. Hopefully there will be larger canvas sizes in the future.
I'd personally recommend looking at an extra pen for drawing. The default pen that comes with the device isn't horrific, but it's designed around fitting in the tablet. It's nice to have it there in a pinch, but a more robust pen is nice. I've got the Samsung 8PI (s pen /w eraser), and it's pretty lovely for a $25 pen online. Wacom is coming out with a line of pens called Bamboo Feel that are Note 10 compatible and look very nice too.
Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
Surface pro 2 pens work as they use wacom feel tech, sp3 pens will NOT work.
8thos said:
Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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I have Surface Pro v1 and note 4 , both pens work inter-operate just fine i would like pen like Surface Pro in Note for its size
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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Man, completely different experience here. I know 8 people that have surface 3 pro, and 3-4 that have surface 1 pro.
Basically everyone I know that is into 'thin' laptops, and not a Mac user, has a surface pro 3.
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Pro 2 pen works, but definitely feels like plastic gliding on glass vs the S-Pen or Pro 3 pen feeling a bit more realistic. The eraser function works as far as actually erasing bits of a stroke and not an entire stroke. The button brings up air command. But the capacitive buttons do not work. The pen is also not calibrated properly because the "dot" appears slightly to the right of the pen tip (for righties) or to the left (for lefties).
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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We have bought 15...great systems. now that you know me you can change your statement and forget about media and marketing wars. I am using the pen right now. It's very bizarre since it works for clicks, it doesn't work on the keyboard nor on the S pen pad...
Interesting, I have a surface pro 1 and i'll test it later when I get home tonight. Funny thing, I know multiple people have surface pro as well. I know it's not selling like the iPad or android tablet but it's a full blown PC in tablet form. I guess microsoft is not marketing it well enough for people to mistaken as just a tablet.
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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I've got a Surface Pro 3 I use for work. As the IT manager, I could have gotten a tablet, laptop and desktop. I chose to just try the the Surface Pro 3 with docking station. I have two 27" Samsung monitors and the Surface works well as a desktop replacement with it's SSD's, i7 and 16GB of RAM. When I go to meetings I just rip the keyboard off and use it as a tablet.
My only complaint lies with Windows 8.1. What it doesn't do and what I hope Windows 10 does is to dynamically adjust my resolution depending if it's docked or not. 1920x1080 looks great on my 27" monitors, but on my 12" display I would need a magnifying glass. So I have to change rez when I undock. I hope the OS will become more aware of such things in the future.
My Wacom Intuos pen doesn't work though.
I have a SP1 that I bought used, for drawing, didn't come with a pen, and i've always used the one for my Note 10.1 with it.
My motioncomputing Wacom pen works in N4. Erasure works as well. Using Wacom and Note1 SPen on Note1, or Wacom and Note3 SPen on Note3 felt similar. But using the same Wacom and N4 SPen on Note4 is very different. First I realized I need to press little harder when using Wacom and the dot is not properly aligned. It must be that N4 SPen has better technology built in.
Hey all. Have anybody experiences with the Note 5 Spen on the Note 4?
Thx
I don't think so. Besides even if it did work where are you gonna put it? I don't believe it'll fit inside the holder.
This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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That's a pretty good observation +1
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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer
I've bought one from America and hope to get it soon and will give you a feedback than
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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer
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Do you mean that you can use the Note 4's pen on the tablet too? Because mine doesn't work at all.
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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly
The tablet s-pen on the Note 4 and otherwise
I've bought this one and hope it works and I can put in the the Note 4 too
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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly
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Well, I don't want to derail this thread, but it's odd that my Note 4 s pen doesn't work on my tablet running stock 4.4.2 (There's no update for the p600 model).
Edit.
Looks like if you have "Disable Pen Detection" unchecked on your table's settings, then the Note 4's S pen works. I've always kept this option checked, which makes the N4 S pen not work.
So I change my initial asdumption. Any S pen should work as long as you uncheck "Turn Off Pen Detection" on your phone's settings.
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The touch part and button work, but I don't think it'll fit properly in the note 4. I didn't cram the s pen in the slot and stopped as soon as I felt resistance. It's not really locked in place and can fall out easily. Maybe you are braver than I and try to push it in deeper. Also, the phone didn't recognize the note 5 pen being inserted.
I hope it will it looks awesome and I think it feels awesome, too. I hope so ^^
it don't looks like to so much differences.. I think the biggest difference are at the touch part or the beginning. the length is the same.
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here the bottom part
What does not fit is made to fit
I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results
They don't have the same body shape. They are both rectangular with rounded corners, but the note 5's pen is more rounded and I think a little slimmer. It is looser in the Note 4 slot. The Note 4's pen doesn't even go in the Note 5 at all. I guess you can maybe add some tape to thicken it up and should stay in by friction. I just don't know how to get the Note 5 pen to be recognized in the Note 4 pen slot.
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I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results
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Hi, did you recieved the Note 5 pen and tried to put it in Note 4? Does it fit and does it work?
Thanks
If i use the Note 10+ spen with Note 20 ultra will I still get the 9ms latency ? And will all new air gestures work , Im planning to buy a replacement Spen and the Note 10+ spen is almost half the price of Note 20s.
When I tried air gestures with the Note 10's spen, it wouldn't work.
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When I tried air gestures with the Note 10's spen, it wouldn't work.
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Bec you should pair the pen with the phone first
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Bec you should pair the pen with the phone first
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Did it work you? Initially I was able to write with it except the air gestures.
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Did it work you? Initially I was able to write with it except the air gestures.
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Yes it works put note 10 pen in the note 20 then go to spen settings and reset spen then allow multiple spens from settings also
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If i use the Note 10+ spen with Note 20 ultra will I still get the 9ms latency ? And will all new air gestures work , Im planning to buy a replacement Spen and the Note 10+ spen is almost half the price of Note 20s.
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It will work once you connect it, but you will NOT get 9ms latency. That Note 10 S pen had around 42ms latency from my understanding. Samsung says that the new Pen has had its acceleration sensors and gyroscope enhanced so that it receives coordinates more frequently, also improved the reaction time of the S Pen by using in-house technology to write directly on the screen buffer.
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It will work once you connect it, but you will NOT get 9ms latency. That Note 10 S pen had around 42ms latency from my understanding. Samsung says that the new Pen has had its acceleration sensors and gyroscope enhanced so that it receives coordinates more frequently, also improved the reaction time of the S Pen by using in-house technology to write directly on the screen buffer.
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After some search the Spen it self has nothing to do with the latency , the note 20 & Note 20 ultra use the same spen but with different latency it is a factor of screen controller itself and the AI of the software , and for improved accelerometer & Gyroscope the Note 10 spen works with the all gestures of Note 20 normally , Im sure now they are the same Spen with different colors
Can say for a fact the 2 pens are different in some way. Air Actions only works with a Note 20 pen.
My Note 10 pen works for everything else.
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Can say for a fact the 2 pens are different in some way. Air Actions only works with a Note 20 pen.
My Note 10 pen works for everything else.
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For air actions to work you should pair the note 10 spen with note 20 , insert the note 10 pen in the note 20 then choose reset spen from the settings ” attached picture ”
Then allow use multiple spens
Interesting enough my pen doesn't want to pair.
This may be a bit of a cheat, but when I received my Note 8, I contacted Samsung support because the clicky top was wobbling, I sent them a video to show them and they sent me a warranty replacement. The new one did the same thing, so could have just been the design. Might be worth a try with this new phone...
twitter.com/j_homsey/status/917716597229449216
Anyone figure out how to connect the note 10 spen to the note 20 ultra. I have two note 10 spens and they will not connect no matter what I do. I have plugged it in and chose reset. I let my note 20 pen battery die and then try it. I even tried wiping the data for the air command app and still nothing. I'm assuming like everything Samsung does, they are forcing your to buy a new note 20 pen.
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Anyone figure out how to connect the note 10 spen to the note 20 ultra. I have two note 10 spens and they will not connect no matter what I do. I have plugged it in and chose reset. I let my note 20 pen battery die and then try it. I even tried wiping the data for the air command app and still nothing. I'm assuming like everything Samsung does, they are forcing your to buy a new note 20 pen.
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Did you try the setting allow multiple S-Pens?
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Did you try the setting allow multiple S-Pens?
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Yes. The pen writes on the screen but will not pair...when I try pairing it just fails.
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Yes. The pen writes on the screen but will not pair...when I try pairing it just fails.
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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Figured that Samsung would do some bull**** like that so they can squeeze a few extra bucks out of everyone. Completely rediculous just like not including headphones or the spen tips. Thanks for the update.
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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Lol... it wouldn't surprise me. If the update is software not firmware just uninstall the software update and go with the factory load version. I've had to do that with a couple apks... cheap tricks count.
The new spen has longer uptime on its cap/battery too if my memory serves me correctly. Was reading a good write up on it about 2 weeks ago but can't find that info now.
Just bite the bullet
Damn spens are born with a bulls eye on them, no doubt.
With a hard drop even in a good case they love to pop out. Cute.
You have to carefully approach the downed note least you inadvertently step on it's spen or leave it behind.