If i use the Note 10+ spen with Note 20 ultra will I still get the 9ms latency ? And will all new air gestures work , Im planning to buy a replacement Spen and the Note 10+ spen is almost half the price of Note 20s.
When I tried air gestures with the Note 10's spen, it wouldn't work.
princeasi said:
When I tried air gestures with the Note 10's spen, it wouldn't work.
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Bec you should pair the pen with the phone first
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Bec you should pair the pen with the phone first
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Did it work you? Initially I was able to write with it except the air gestures.
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Did it work you? Initially I was able to write with it except the air gestures.
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Yes it works put note 10 pen in the note 20 then go to spen settings and reset spen then allow multiple spens from settings also
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If i use the Note 10+ spen with Note 20 ultra will I still get the 9ms latency ? And will all new air gestures work , Im planning to buy a replacement Spen and the Note 10+ spen is almost half the price of Note 20s.
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It will work once you connect it, but you will NOT get 9ms latency. That Note 10 S pen had around 42ms latency from my understanding. Samsung says that the new Pen has had its acceleration sensors and gyroscope enhanced so that it receives coordinates more frequently, also improved the reaction time of the S Pen by using in-house technology to write directly on the screen buffer.
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It will work once you connect it, but you will NOT get 9ms latency. That Note 10 S pen had around 42ms latency from my understanding. Samsung says that the new Pen has had its acceleration sensors and gyroscope enhanced so that it receives coordinates more frequently, also improved the reaction time of the S Pen by using in-house technology to write directly on the screen buffer.
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After some search the Spen it self has nothing to do with the latency , the note 20 & Note 20 ultra use the same spen but with different latency it is a factor of screen controller itself and the AI of the software , and for improved accelerometer & Gyroscope the Note 10 spen works with the all gestures of Note 20 normally , Im sure now they are the same Spen with different colors
Can say for a fact the 2 pens are different in some way. Air Actions only works with a Note 20 pen.
My Note 10 pen works for everything else.
Tidbits said:
Can say for a fact the 2 pens are different in some way. Air Actions only works with a Note 20 pen.
My Note 10 pen works for everything else.
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For air actions to work you should pair the note 10 spen with note 20 , insert the note 10 pen in the note 20 then choose reset spen from the settings ” attached picture ”
Then allow use multiple spens
Interesting enough my pen doesn't want to pair.
This may be a bit of a cheat, but when I received my Note 8, I contacted Samsung support because the clicky top was wobbling, I sent them a video to show them and they sent me a warranty replacement. The new one did the same thing, so could have just been the design. Might be worth a try with this new phone...
twitter.com/j_homsey/status/917716597229449216
Anyone figure out how to connect the note 10 spen to the note 20 ultra. I have two note 10 spens and they will not connect no matter what I do. I have plugged it in and chose reset. I let my note 20 pen battery die and then try it. I even tried wiping the data for the air command app and still nothing. I'm assuming like everything Samsung does, they are forcing your to buy a new note 20 pen.
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Anyone figure out how to connect the note 10 spen to the note 20 ultra. I have two note 10 spens and they will not connect no matter what I do. I have plugged it in and chose reset. I let my note 20 pen battery die and then try it. I even tried wiping the data for the air command app and still nothing. I'm assuming like everything Samsung does, they are forcing your to buy a new note 20 pen.
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Did you try the setting allow multiple S-Pens?
warriorvibhu said:
Did you try the setting allow multiple S-Pens?
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Yes. The pen writes on the screen but will not pair...when I try pairing it just fails.
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Yes. The pen writes on the screen but will not pair...when I try pairing it just fails.
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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Figured that Samsung would do some bull**** like that so they can squeeze a few extra bucks out of everyone. Completely rediculous just like not including headphones or the spen tips. Thanks for the update.
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At first it worked with Note 20 ultra and some reviewers reported it working , but then Samsung disabled it with the first official update
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Lol... it wouldn't surprise me. If the update is software not firmware just uninstall the software update and go with the factory load version. I've had to do that with a couple apks... cheap tricks count.
The new spen has longer uptime on its cap/battery too if my memory serves me correctly. Was reading a good write up on it about 2 weeks ago but can't find that info now.
Just bite the bullet
Damn spens are born with a bulls eye on them, no doubt.
With a hard drop even in a good case they love to pop out. Cute.
You have to carefully approach the downed note least you inadvertently step on it's spen or leave it behind.
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Hi everyone,
i want to ask some question about s pen.
is it possible to use note 4 s pen with note pro for more sensitive,
is Advanced s pen works with note pro
finally
What can we do for more sensitive ?
thanks for your answers.
It's basically the same pen. I've used my Note 4 spen a few times while taking extended notes on my tablet, I honestly don't think their is a difference. It's the wacom hardware in the device that is responsible for most, if not all, functionality.
In summary ... yes the note 4 pen works, no its not any better
The increased sensitivity of the Note 4 lies in the number of pressure points the sensor in the screen can detect, not in the pen itself. You can use any Spen with it, but it won't increase the sensitivity.
As for increasing the sensitivity, you'll need to change the potentiometer. Follow the guide here (Ignore the offset dial): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
All the premade spens will work work other note device, ie;I'm using my note 3 pen with my note 4and it works rather well if not exactly the same. ..it's the software that controls the pressure and poem points etc etc. ..
Hope that helps?
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Hey all. Have anybody experiences with the Note 5 Spen on the Note 4?
Thx
I don't think so. Besides even if it did work where are you gonna put it? I don't believe it'll fit inside the holder.
This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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That's a pretty good observation +1
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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer
I've bought one from America and hope to get it soon and will give you a feedback than
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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer
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Do you mean that you can use the Note 4's pen on the tablet too? Because mine doesn't work at all.
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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly
The tablet s-pen on the Note 4 and otherwise
I've bought this one and hope it works and I can put in the the Note 4 too
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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly
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Well, I don't want to derail this thread, but it's odd that my Note 4 s pen doesn't work on my tablet running stock 4.4.2 (There's no update for the p600 model).
Edit.
Looks like if you have "Disable Pen Detection" unchecked on your table's settings, then the Note 4's S pen works. I've always kept this option checked, which makes the N4 S pen not work.
So I change my initial asdumption. Any S pen should work as long as you uncheck "Turn Off Pen Detection" on your phone's settings.
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The touch part and button work, but I don't think it'll fit properly in the note 4. I didn't cram the s pen in the slot and stopped as soon as I felt resistance. It's not really locked in place and can fall out easily. Maybe you are braver than I and try to push it in deeper. Also, the phone didn't recognize the note 5 pen being inserted.
I hope it will it looks awesome and I think it feels awesome, too. I hope so ^^
it don't looks like to so much differences.. I think the biggest difference are at the touch part or the beginning. the length is the same.
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here the bottom part
What does not fit is made to fit
I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results
They don't have the same body shape. They are both rectangular with rounded corners, but the note 5's pen is more rounded and I think a little slimmer. It is looser in the Note 4 slot. The Note 4's pen doesn't even go in the Note 5 at all. I guess you can maybe add some tape to thicken it up and should stay in by friction. I just don't know how to get the Note 5 pen to be recognized in the Note 4 pen slot.
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I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results
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Hi, did you recieved the Note 5 pen and tried to put it in Note 4? Does it fit and does it work?
Thanks
Had this via Note Buddy pro on my last 3 Notes but Buddy seems to be dead as does Toolbox (the suggested alternative)
Does anybody know if and how this is do-able on the Note 20? I miss it
I was intrigued by the S-Pen lightsabre. I've never had a Note since the Note 2. Searched the web and found this:
Interesting indeed!
Note buddy has always worked for me. Note 8, 9, 10 and using it now on the 20 Ultra. Note buddy with lightsabre sounds.
You can side load s pen tool box to get the lightsaber sounds
https://youtu.be/u9BwT_C5Re4
I got the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 FE. I am NOT sure how to charge the S-Pen. Nothing in YouTube or the manuals in samsung site. I see some reviews that it can't be wireless (or bluetooth?) charged. I attach it to the back of the tablet but not sure whether it's charging.
Also, I am unable to check how much battery is left on the S-Pen as well? Any ideas?
The S-Pen which comes with the SGT S7 FE does not have the same bluetooth features as the regular SGT S7 or S7 Plus.
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The S-Pen which comes with the SGT S7 FE does not have the same bluetooth features as the regular SGT S7 or S7 Plus.
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I get it and that's why I am asking how to charge it and check the battery status.
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I get it and that's why I am asking how to charge it and check the battery status.
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Did you read my reply? Here is the short answer the S-Pen which comes with the Galaxy Tab 7 FE is not rechargable!!! It gets it power off the electromagnetic grid that is embedded in the display.
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Did you read my reply? Here is the short answer the S-Pen which comes with the Galaxy Tab 7 FE is not rechargable!!! It gets it power off the electromagnetic grid that is embedded in the display.
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Wow, your initial reply didn't say anything remotely close to the electromagnetic grid as it simply states that it doesn't have the bluetooth features like its bigger cousins.
In the reviews, I too found out that it doesn't have bluetooth features and only your reponse came close to how it gets its power. So, if it gets its power off of the grid, then isn't that superior to the bluetooth features as you don't need to charge it all?
Unfortunately, the Samsung support has no clue about how it gets charged as well. They keep reciting the features of S7+.
Anyways, thanks for the response.
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Wow, your initial reply didn't say anything remotely close to the electromagnetic grid as it simply states that it doesn't have the bluetooth features like its bigger cousins.
In the reviews, I too found out that it doesn't have bluetooth features and only your reponse came close to how it gets its power. So, if it gets its power off of the grid, then isn't that superior to the bluetooth features as you don't need to charge it all?
Unfortunately, the Samsung support has no clue about how it gets charged as well. They keep reciting the features of S7+.
Anyways, thanks for the response.
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My bad, I thought that you had a basic understanding of how the S-Pen works lol
The bluetooth features for bluetooth enabled S-Pen is to provide addition functions, like being able to use the S-Pen as a remote to take pictures on your Note 9/10/20. Or being able to use it to control the media player. Or allow you to use it as a wand to swipe up and down to change from the main camera to the front facing camera.
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My bad, I thought that you had a basic understanding of how the S-Pen works lol
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Gosh, I know how the SPen works and you don't even get my original question. Please read it and educate yourself if you are going to respond to my question.
Let's be clear, the answer to the question how do you charge the S pen included with the Tab S7 FE is you don't. It does not require charging. It has no battery. It is a dumb pen.
If you are talking about an S pen which has smart features and does require charging, i.e. one that did not come with your Tab S7 FE reviews suggest the Tab doesn't have the ability to charge those pens while the S7 non-FE does. If you wanted smart features I think you would have to use the S Pen Pro which charges via USB-C.
will the new tab s7 FE spen work with other Samsung models?
I understand spens are cross compatible between smartphone and tablet models. For example, the spen of a note 8 will work on a tab s7+ and vice versa.
It is important to clarify that this applies to the tip (nibs) of the spens. The obvious exception to this rule is the wireless functionality of the latest spen models with older smartphone/tablet models. But the basic works, that is, using the spen for handwriting and drawing.
Please corrent me if wrong.
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will the new tab s7 FE spen work with other Samsung models?
I understand spens are cross compatible between smartphone and tablet models. For example, the spen of a note 8 will work on a tab s7+ and vice versa.
It is important to clarify that this applies to the tip (nibs) of the spens. The obvious exception to this rule is the wireless functionality of the latest spen models with older smartphone/tablet models. But the basic works, that is, using the spen for handwriting and drawing.
Please corrent me if wrong.
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I just tested my S7 FE with the pen from my S6 Lite and it worked fine. I would assume any of the passive pens will work.
diehard2013 said:
will the new tab s7 FE spen work with other Samsung models?
I understand spens are cross compatible between smartphone and tablet models. For example, the spen of a note 8 will work on a tab s7+ and vice versa.
It is important to clarify that this applies to the tip (nibs) of the spens. The obvious exception to this rule is the wireless functionality of the latest spen models with older smartphone/tablet models. But the basic works, that is, using the spen for handwriting and drawing.
Please corrent me if wrong.
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Yes. All S-Pens will work on other Note and S-Pen enabled devices with the exception of the Galaxy Z Fold 3, as that has it's own dedicated S-Pen. Due to the more delicate display.
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Yes. All S-Pens will work on other Note and S-Pen enabled devices with the exception of the Galaxy Z Fold 3, as that has it's own dedicated S-Pen. Due to the more delicate display.
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Also add the Note 20 Ultra to that list of devices the basic (dumb) S-Pen will not work with. I tested it on my Tab S4 (my trade-in device for getting the S7 FE for $162) as well as my S7+ and it works with them, but not my Note 20 Ultra.
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Also add the Note 20 Ultra to that list of devices the basic (dumb) S-Pen will not work with. I tested it on my Tab S4 (my trade-in device for getting the S7 FE for $162) as well as my S7+ and it works with them, but not my Note 20 Ultra.
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Really, as I was able to use the S-Pen from my Note 8 on the retail demo unit of a Note 20 Ultra....
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Also add the Note 20 Ultra to that list of devices the basic (dumb) S-Pen will not work with. I tested it on my Tab S4 (my trade-in device for getting the S7 FE for $162) as well as my S7+ and it works with them, but not my Note 20 Ultra.
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The S pen that comes with the FE Tab works fine on my Note 20 Ultra, Well it touches etc, selects and swipes as much as a dump pen can
Does it allow 3d scanning or use of the Samsung 3d scanner app? I had it on my Note 10, bougjt my 20 Ultra and have since gotten big into printing so I miss having the option to mess with it, and now I'm looking for a new phone. And does the Fold 3 have the ability? I tried to search here and online in general, even YouTube but all I come across is info for the older Note 10s, another manufacturer, or someone asking the same question and not getting a response. If both if these phones have the ability (or I determine 3d scanning isn't a deciding factor), which phone would you guys recommend; although I apologize, I'm sure it's been answered ad nauseam, but I haven't searched and I'm already asking about 3d scanning so I might as well include this here too! Thanks in advance.
Well you could do what some of us have done, get a N975U1 even though it's 3 years old, it's has it's advantages in form factor, display and more. Bonus it's ram seems to handle heavy loading better than the S22U and in actual use is only slightly slower; actually faster once the ram gets loaded up. New ones are running on Q.
New ones can still be had.
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Does it allow 3d scanning or use of the Samsung 3d scanner app? I had it on my Note 10, bougjt my 20 Ultra and have since gotten big into printing so I miss having the option to mess with it, and now I'm looking for a new phone. And does the Fold 3 have the ability? I tried to search here and online in general, even YouTube but all I come across is info for the older Note 10s, another manufacturer, or someone asking the same question and not getting a response. If both if these phones have the ability (or I determine 3d scanning isn't a deciding factor), which phone would you guys recommend; although I apologize, I'm sure it's been answered ad nauseam, but I haven't searched and I'm already asking about 3d scanning so I might as well include this here too! Thanks in advance.
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Samsung's 3D scanning app is not yet available on the S22 or Fold. It was only on the Note 10 and Note 20. The S21 didn't get it either.
I recommend the S22 Ultra, I have one and it's a great phone. My wife and daughter have the S22+ and S22, respectively, and they both are very happy with them.
Try https://m.all3dp.com/2/best-3d-scanner-app-iphone-android-photogrammetry/ , never used any myself so I don't know if they are any good
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Does it allow 3d scanning or use of the Samsung 3d scanner app? I had it on my Note 10, bougjt my 20 Ultra and have since gotten big into printing so I miss having the option...
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If you had a Note 10+ and not a note 10, isn't it because the Note 10+ has a ToF sensor and the S22U not?
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If you had a Note 10+ and not a note 10, isn't it because the Note 10+ has a ToF sensor and the S22U not?
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This is correct, Samsung removed the ToF sensor after the S20 Ultra and opted to use the laser autofocus module for more accurate focus starting with the Note 20 Ultra.