Idk if its been asked here bfor but i did atleast try and look. i was rooted with stock rom/kernal and got the ota so avoiding any/all problems i decided to unroot my device forgetting it would cancel out my ota. my question is How can i get the ota back/is it possible or will i have to wait for it again? I thought about sideloading but this is a new laptop and dont have Android SDK installed. Whats the best thing for me to do, TIA
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Excuse my complete noobishness, but I have to know.
If I root, but keep the stock ROM (basically, I just want root to get MarketEnabler at this stage) will I still be able to get OTA updates from Google?
The way I understand it, the answer is yes, but I'd like some confirmation from someone who definitely knows more than me.
no.....no.....no.....
Why ? There is any limitation for unlocked devices ? I think problems with ota only for custom rom.
I think so long as your on stock rom you get updates despite su and root. However if it is a major update you will lose root.
Once you root, you won't WANT the OTA update because you will get it from the forums long before it hits your device from Google.
This is a common question asked but its really irrelevant. Just root, the instant the update is released everyone gets it long before Google pushes it to you. Sure you could load a stock ROM and sit there waiting for a week till it pushes meanwhile everyone else just manually grabs it
Hi everyone,
I'm running a rooted Transformer HC 3.1 and Netformer overclocking kernel.
Today I got an OTA update notification, and the update is already downloaded on my TF. I have chosen to postpone the update since I know it will fail, but I can only do this 3 times.
Questions:
1. Is there a way to cancel the update completely at this point?
2. If I let it try to update I know it will fail, but will the device still be usable normally i.e. exactly like before the attempted update?
3. Is there a way to unroot the TF without wiping the data? I would hate to have to set everything up again.
Thanks for your quick help, it seems that I don't have much time before the forced update.
I'm rooted also,if you go to this thread here and read it from front to back,i think you will find your answer... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171116
I'm gonna wait for a bigger update or a rooted version of this update.
Diablo67 said:
I'm rooted also,if you go to this thread here and read it from front to back,i think you will find your answer... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171116
I'm gonna wait for a bigger update or a rooted version of this update.
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Thanks, I 've read through the whole thread.
I don't think anyone mentioned being able to cancel the update though. Perhaps deleting the downoaded installation file would help, I might try just that...
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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Yes and no. If you stick with a stock ROM, you'll be able to download the OTAs/get notified about them. However, if you use ClockworkMod Recovery (which you really should) you won't be able to install the OTA. Well, it'll try but, it'll fail. The best bet is to be patient and one of the devs will release their versions of the new ROM.
abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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It might depend which method you used to root, but I doubt it. I did the rooting via the 'pure root' method and I receive the notifications.
Since I just backed up after updating to 8.5.5.6, I decided to see what happened if I clicked on the upgrade nag notification, and all it did was say that it cancelled it, and does not nag me now.
I have no clue if it'll do the same for everyone. We all follow a lot of paths to generally the same place in rooting, so not sure. I did have an HTC incredible actually unroot itself via an update notification, so I removed the OTA Certification services.
Well, thanks to both of you for the clarification!
Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?
abprie said:
Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?
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Yes. Just go into /system/app/ and delete superuser.apk. Just note that when you have root, you can't change a lot of the system files otherwise there will be problems with the OTA.
I would personally just rock custom ROMs. They get updated fast to the latest OTA. But that's just me.
I am relatively new to the rooting experience but am a big fan of the benefits. I only do basic stuff and am too paranoid to try flashing ROMs or anything too advanced. I recently downloaded the most recent update and it didn't go as I had anticipated.
I was taken to the reboot screen as if I was using Clockwork Mod. It asked me questions that I had to answer in order to proceed but the choices were strange. It would ask me, "do you want to install this unfamiliar zip?" and the answers would be, "No, No, No, No, No, No, Yes, No, No, No, Go Back." I picked yes for the 3 different choices and it completed the install.
After the phone rebooted there was a message saying that the update had failed. I called my brother who has an unrooted phone and checked to see that I in fact do have the update. I am wondering if this is what will happen each time I get an update and if there is anything I should be worried about. The phone is still rooted and I don't notice anything different, but I am just paranoid that rooting my phone will make it so I am unable to install the jellybean update next month. Thanks for the advice in advance!
that sounds like CWM or it might be the factory download mode but either way i dont think you should have to do that for a factory update
So you are on stock, but rooted? Usually the rule of thumb is not not accept the OTA updates, but rather flash one of the stock, rooted roms when an update comes out. You might wnat to try something like the root66 rom, if not somehting like Synergy or CleanRom, which are still stock-based.
As far as this particular issue, as far as I knew, the OTA updates will usually always install. The problem is that they will sometimes revert back to un-rooted, and sometimes will even block the root exploit so you're stuck.
update will fail if you are using a custom recovery, i.e. cwm
wwjdd44 said:
update will fail if you are using a custom recovery, i.e. cwm
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Is there any way to remove clockwork mod? I don't really need it.
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
No you dont need to be unrooted to update your android version.
You need to have the stock recovery and rom. The update isnt available for everyone yet
you will get a update notification just wait
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hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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You technically voided your warranty when you rooted. But no big deal.
You can download the update and sideload on your own, or wait for the OTA to come to you. If all you have is root, stock recovery and no system mods it will update on its own.
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Hi do not worry. Those posts really do not apply to you yet. You have a phone that is stock meaning, you bought it and using it. If you keep it like that you never have to worry about update. Google will automatically push the update to your phone by next week. Incidentally the phone is also a developer phone, so people usually play around with it. Root, custom roms, kernels etc. Now for these enthusiasts to get the update, they have to unroot, ,to stock just like your phone. After getting the update they will start messing with it again:laugh: this forum being the developers forum of the Internet is the reason why you are seeing all those posts.
Now you are sitting on a Ferrari phone, using it as a Honda. Some day in the future you will let it run at indy500
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Did you mean to ask "do you need to root to get the 4.4.1 OTA"?? If not, your question doesn't seem to add up....
You definitely do NOT need to root to get the OTA. You can wait for the update to be pushed out, or, if you are impatient, you can sideload using ADB or install from recovery.
If you are rooted, as the other folks explained, you may need to get back to stock before you can install 4.4.1
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
I'm quite happy with everything stock and don't plan on doing any mods.
Also, I sideloaded 4.4.1, but would I have gotten the OTA with TWRP?
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To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
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Yes, get the recovery.img from the factory image and: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. That'll put the stock recovery back on your device
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thnks alot you guys!!
this really helped me out!
i know i am new to android right now and dont know the ins and outs of this os completely... i really liked a reply which said i am sitting on a ferrarri and using it like a honda..lol...i will run it like a veyron in some time but for now my car comes with a "L" sign and a speed limiter on it
thnks again you guys!