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So I recently replaced my headphone jack and speaker recently using parts I ordered from Parts Universe b/c my headphone jack stopped working after I had dropped my Captivate face down on my asphalt driveway...
Anyways, my headphone jack works great now. Only problem... about a day after I had replaced the headphone jack I noticed a dark brownish/orange splotch in the top left corner of my screen that comes down about 1/2" from the top of the screen and then back up to the top of the screen.
Did I mess something up when changing out my parts? I have taken the phone apart before just to see if I could do it, and nothing happened... I never ran into any problems when taking it apart/putting it back together... Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?
I have attached a screenshot of my homescreen with some editing in Paint to show what it looks like. It is transparent, almost like the screen is half-dead in that area.
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Here it is. It also seems to be spreading... was not like this a couple of days ago...

I was going to pass this up because I couldn't tell what was added in Paint and what's wrong, but thought I'd tell you that. How about an unmodified screenshot?
Also did you solder the new connector on with the board in the phone, getting the screen hot in that area?

CuriousTech said:
I was going to pass this up because I couldn't tell what was added in Paint and what's wrong, but thought I'd tell you that. How about an unmodified screenshot?
Also did you solder the new connector on with the board in the phone, getting the screen hot in that area?
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Well I would post an unmodified screen shot if the defect was shown in it. But it's basically what I drew in, the area outlined in orange is the border of the splotch. It's like if you have a damaged monitor, but take a screenshot of your desktop it won't show that the monitor is damaged, it will only show what the desktop looks like normally.
There was no soldering involved in replacing the headphone jack and front speaker. I just stuck it in there and plugged it into the motherboard. That's why this is so puzzling... Just wanted to know if anyone else has had a similar problem?
Maybe I should try and re-install my defective headphone jack and see if the problem still persists...

I had dropped my Captivate face down on my asphalt driveway
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Sounds like your problem right there. To me, it sounds like your screen is physically borked (i.e. you need a new screen), but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say that is the case for sure. It might be helpful if you can grab a camera and upload a few pictures, both with the screen on and off, so we can better see what's happening.

jmtheiss said:
Sounds like your problem right there. To me, it sounds like your screen is physically borked (i.e. you need a new screen), but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say that is the case for sure. It might be helpful if you can grab a camera and upload a few pictures, both with the screen on and off, so we can better see what's happening.
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I will try to take a photo using another camera for sure...
Although I dropped my phone over two months ago and the screen was perfectly fine after (I did have a silicone case on it, so the extra width saved the screen), not a single scratch. This splotch came into existence after I replaced my headphone jack this week.

richuwo11 said:
I will try to take a photo using another camera for sure...
Although I dropped my phone over two months ago and the screen was perfectly fine after (I did have a silicone case on it, so the extra width saved the screen), not a single scratch. This splotch came into existence after I replaced my headphone jack this week.
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Just another guess - it's possible that the screen separated partially from the gorilla glass covering it. That opening could be causing the brown splotch you're seeing - almost like a bubble in between a screen protector and the screen.

could it possibly be a thumb-print inside the screen? In taking it apart did you ever come in contact with the backside of the screen. The oils from your skin can heat up under there and cause the discoloration.

jmtheiss said:
Just another guess - it's possible that the screen separated partially from the gorilla glass covering it. That opening could be causing the brown splotch you're seeing - almost like a bubble in between a screen protector and the screen.
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That does sound possible... I will take it apart again tonight and give it a thorough inspection.
It's really not that bad, only b/c it's in the corner, but it does really bother me. It looks terrible on anything with a white background though, like when you browse the internet or some parts of the marketplace.
Thanks for the responses guys. I will report back with my findings.

So I took everything apart last night again, replaced my new headphone jack with the old part and the splotch is still there... so it's not the replacement part I got.
All of the components look good, there's no dust or dirt anywhere, nothing rattles when I shake it... I don't know what could have happened...
I don't think I'm going to be buying a new screen for it, they run about $150 and for that price, I might as well get a new phone.
I'll just have to deal with it.

richuwo11 said:
So I took everything apart last night again, replaced my new headphone jack with the old part and the splotch is still there... so it's not the replacement part I got.
All of the components look good, there's no dust or dirt anywhere, nothing rattles when I shake it... I don't know what could have happened...
I don't think I'm going to be buying a new screen for it, they run about $150 and for that price, I might as well get a new phone.
I'll just have to deal with it.
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Try to have it replaced for free. It's a knowed phenomenon in electronics of all kind. Your replacement of the headjack might have just exacerbate a existing problem.
Brown spot on screen

silvertag said:
Try to have it replaced for free. It's a knowed phenomenon in electronics of all kind. Your replacement of the headjack might have just exacerbate a existing problem.
Brown spot on screen
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Hmm... thanks for the info.
I will have to call up Samsung and see what they say. Only problem is that I have the AT&T version of the phone and using it in Canada.
Hopefully Samsung is nice enough to still honour the warranty.

richuwo11 said:
Hmm... thanks for the info.
I will have to call up Samsung and see what they say. Only problem is that I have the AT&T version of the phone and using it in Canada.
Hopefully Samsung is nice enough to still honour the warranty.
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how did you obtain this captivate? if you are not the original purchaser you do not have a warranty. and also if you are sim unlocked you had to root to do that which voids the warranty so before you send it to sammy relock the sim restrictions and odin one click back to stock

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What do you think?

It really looks like layer separation to me. As if the glass is pulling away from the digitizer or something.
I guess it is spreading, since it looks much larger than first described...

Yep layer separation.

joeybear23 said:
It really looks like layer separation to me. As if the glass is pulling away from the digitizer or something.
I guess it is spreading, since it looks much larger than first described...
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Ok, so how do I fix it? Nothing looks loose or out of place to me. Everything fits snug and is screwed in, not loose or too tight.
Maybe just the way I snapped the outer plastic shell to the digitizer? Last time I put it together I snapped it in from top to bottom. Maybe I should try bottom to top?

richuwo11 said:
Ok, so how do I fix it? Nothing looks loose or out of place to me. Everything fits snug and is screwed in, not loose or too tight.
Maybe just the way I snapped the outer plastic shell to the digitizer? Last time I put it together I snapped it in from top to bottom. Maybe I should try bottom to top?
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If it is layer separation, I don't think there is a way to fix it. I believe the two layers are most likely put together with a special adhesive by machine. The discoloration is probably the adhesive being exposed to elements that it was not designed to come in contact with. I suspect this would have happened regardless of your activities, unless you inadvertently pried away the corner of the glass in your maintenance.
If you didn't break any "do not remove" seals while you were working on it, you may be able to get it repaired under warranty as a factory defect...

Yep. That's not going back together. Most likely it's from flexing a corner out to hard. Fixing it would require 3M Vikuiti type material. Well, that's from LCD backing. Maybe a polorizor for the front. Take it all apart, clean the surfaces in a cleanroom. That kinda thing. Not fun.

joeybear23 said:
If it is layer separation, I don't think there is a way to fix it. I believe the two layers are most likely put together with a special adhesive by machine. The discoloration is probably the adhesive being exposed to elements that it was not designed to come in contact with. I suspect this would have happened regardless of your activities, unless you inadvertently pried away the corner of the glass in your maintenance.
If you didn't break any "do not remove" seals while you were working on it, you may be able to get it repaired under warranty as a factory defect...
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Thanks for the info... I will have to contact Samsung.
All because of a stupid broken headphone jack...

side screen warped..defect?

hey guy just got my AT&T HTC One X and i notice on the side where the screen kind of pops out on the side the side of the screen is not smooth as the right side..the left side has like a warped like a plastic thats been heated and got bent front the heat..not sure if you can see it on the picture but thats where im talking about..anymore have this issues?i put the card end to point where it is..ill try explain it better..if you get a candle and touch it with a hot soldering iron it like melts/bends like a U..
should i return it and get exchange it? got it at bestbuy..plus im still test driving it to see if i like it..
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Can't see anything wrong with the picture.
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mobilehavoc said:
Can't see anything wrong with the picture.
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yeah i know i tried..but when i glide my finger on side i can feel a lump dent on the left side where i warped is..on the right side its smooth.. just not feeling that little defect thing..paid top $$$ for this and for a flagship phone idk maybe ill return it see what they say or call them..just not 100% satisfied with it..
are yours smooth on both sides ?so ding/warped feel to it?

markysd said:
yeah i know i tried..but when i glide my finger on side i can feel a lump dent on the left side where i warped is..on the right side its smooth.. just not feeling that little defect thing..paid top $$$ for this and for a flagship phone idk maybe ill return it see what they say or call them..just not 100% satisfied with it..
are yours smooth on both sides ?so ding/warped feel to it?
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Exchange it. It's a device you'll probably have for a while. Make sure it's perfect

Maroon Mushroom said:
Exchange it. It's a device you'll probably have for a while. Make sure it's perfect
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yeah will do.. i just got it too and love it so far.. off to best buy again

I would definitely return it if something doesn't feel right. I'm very particular about things like that, i wouldn't want to use it everyday knowing that my device is potentially defected.

Yeah, return it. I'd like to think it sends a message to these manufacturers to beef up their quality control.

well i found another defect when i was at the parking lot at best buy...the back casing it self was not snapped inn you can see the side next to my pinky finger that the back casing is not snapped inn and i can see the triangle tab that locks it in.. my first HTC device/second android phone and this HTC was the baddest one ever..had dead pixels on note..
new one dont have the back casing out popped out its snugged inn like its suppose to be and no warp sides on the side screen..as you can see from the other pic its not humped out due to not snapped inn..never dropped the phone or anything i baby my devices took a good look at the new one before i walked out best buy
im going to have a little talk with HTC but now my device is good but still quality control needs to be up to par with a flag ship device

LOL, did you not watch all the announcement videos? The glass is CURVED on the edges.

designgears said:
LOL, did you not watch all the announcement videos? The glass is CURVED on the edges.
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the glass is not curve its an illusion due to the back casing has a concave design..it looks like it but its not lol

markysd said:
the glass is not curve its an illusion due to the back casing has a concave design..it looks like it but its not lol
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It is curved, he meant instead of the edge being rough it curves into the screen. He did not mean curved like the Galaxy Nexus. So he was indeed correct.

markysd said:
the glass is not curve its an illusion due to the back casing has a concave design..it looks like it but its not lol
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its not curved top to bottom or side to side... the side edges are curved, watch the videos and check out this picture
they did it that way so they didnt have to curve the glass like the nexus

ah silly me now i know what you guys mean lol..
but yeah as you know i had a defect now i see another now got a new one looks fine and all but now that its night time and dark in my room i was syncing stuff then i saw a light bleed on the side i tot it was reflections but i turn the lights off and dim my room then WHAM! light is bleeding on the lower right sidethe left side is fine.. i think im giving up on HTC already...love the phone but dont love the quality control..i guess its back to my crappy iphone 4 and get a GS3..didnt want to start a new thread about defect so i tot i just post it on this "defect" topic..
anyone get this problem?

Sadly, I think that bleed is "normal". Have it on mine and also the first one I returned due to dead pixels. I also have an HTC Titan, and there is also a sliver of bleed on the bottom right edge. :/
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aimfire72 said:
Sadly, I think that bleed is "normal". Have it on mine and also the first one I returned due to dead pixels. I also have an HTC Titan, and there is also a sliver of bleed on the bottom right edge. :/
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so you have it again on your replacement ?
so having it only on one side normal??? and the light bleed only goes like half way on the right side where it bleeds...man im really bum about this im going to rant on HTC tomorrow and and return it and have them pay for my return stock fee and HTC is talking about its high martial back plate its made nice and the screen has issues like this...will play around with it for couple more days/week then return it so by the time i return it i wont have to wait long when GS3 is out love the HOX but i dont see quality control

Yeah, it's on my replacement as well. I don't notice it in daylight, just now outside in the dark, lol. If I tilt the phone to the left, I can see a very thin sliver of light, about an inch long, on the bottom right side.
I really think that's just how it is... If you look closely at the 4 corners of the glass, you'll notice that the bottom right corner is raised *slightly* higher than the others. It's like maybe 0.5mm higher. It bugged me at first too, but when I looked at the demo models at AT&T store, they were all like that :/
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markysd said:
ah silly me now i know what you guys mean lol..
but yeah as you know i had a defect now i see another now got a new one looks fine and all but now that its night time and dark in my room i was syncing stuff then i saw a light bleed on the side i tot it was reflections but i turn the lights off and dim my room then WHAM! light is bleeding on the lower right sidethe left side is fine.. i think im giving up on HTC already...love the phone but dont love the quality control..i guess its back to my crappy iphone 4 and get a GS3..didnt want to start a new thread about defect so i tot i just post it on this "defect" topic..
anyone get this problem?
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Not what you want to hear, but get a case with a lip to it, issue solved.

aimfire72 said:
Sadly, I think that bleed is "normal". Have it on mine and also the first one I returned due to dead pixels. I also have an HTC Titan, and there is also a sliver of bleed on the bottom right edge. :/
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aimfire72 said:
Yeah, it's on my replacement as well. I don't notice it in daylight, just now outside in the dark, lol. If I tilt the phone to the left, I can see a very thin sliver of light, about an inch long, on the bottom right side.*
I really think that's just how it is... If you look closely at the 4 corners of the glass, you'll notice that the bottom right corner is raised *slightly* higher than the others. It's like maybe 0.5mm higher. It bugged me at first too, but when I looked at the demo models at AT&T store, they were all like that :/
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I see..wow I do have that on the bottom right cornner but no big deal like the back casing/warped issues I had
vioalas said:
Not what you want to hear, but get a case with a lip to it, issue solved.
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Yeah I know but still..
I shouldnt have to spend or buy a case to hide a defected product..this is HTC quality control
..I had some words with them today I was not happy with it *no more HTC for me..it's a nice phone but I don't pay for defects..sucks too because it likes ruins my return policy..but will call att to refund my return fee due to this..will stop by best buy ask questions about this..still want to play with the phone..I love it but still has bugs like cant connect to my Bluetooth headphones.bugs can be fixed but hardware can't unless it's sent back that I don't want to send back and wait.also typing is a pain..just had to copy and paste this and send it to my iPhone and fix it.Maybe im just not use to it much yet lol...I guess I'll play with it before my 30 day return then GS3 is for me after all..
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Build Quality

Hi, I recently got a TF300 and so far I love it (for the most part). I am still on the stock ROM and am thinking of rooting and going custom soon, I just cant be bothered with the backup and restore really.
What I'd like to know is if the build quality on everyone's tab is the same.
I have a blue one, with the keyboard dock and I bought from Comet in the UK.
When I use the pad un-docked, there is a noticeable creakyness to the edges of the bezel. On the right side of the screen, and the bottom - just where the dock alignment arrow is, i feel as if I can push the edges up and down like a sponge. Its almost as if the screws arent tightened enough to hold it together properly. It is not a major issue, but it does really bug me because I paid £400 for this gadget.
I also notice that there is a dip in the keyboard, around the letters JKL.
Please tell me if other people have the same thing or if I'm the only one, because if that is the case i'd feel inclined to return and exchange it.
Many Thanks

mcall_r said:
When I use the pad un-docked, there is a noticeable creakyness to the edges of the bezel. On the right side of the screen, and the bottom - just where the dock alignment arrow is, i feel as if I can push the edges up and down like a sponge.
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Confirming the creakyness on the bottom edge, near the usb port. Not quite like a sponge, but it's noticeable during regular use. Also, if you look really carefully you can see between the black bezel and the silver margin, right under the dock arrow. It doesn't seem worth it to return the tablet over something like this, but it's a little bit disappointing at this price range.
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I can confirm this, mine has had the same creakyness. Only mine had it on the top and left side. It annoyed me alot. What i eventually did to fix it might not be for everyone though. I took of the back-cover and used some household masking-tape in very thin slices around the areas on the edges inside of the back.cover. No more creakyness
But I have also read about some people turning theirs inn and getting a new one without the creaky back-cover.

I was also slightly disappointed that there is some creaky movement on the casing of my TF300T. It almost feels like I could pop the back off at the top right corner.

pukeboy said:
I was also slightly disappointed that there is some creaky movement on the casing of my TF300T. It almost feels like I could pop the back off at the top right corner.
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I don't feel any creakyness. It must be my girlie arms. No offense to girls.

I certainly can feel the creekyness between the back plate and the screen. It turns out, the back plate is EASILY removable and is only held on by a few clips, no screws. You can actually take it off without voiding your warantee , the void sticker is on a sheet of copper beneath the back plate over the cpu, nand chip etc.
I actually made an aluminum plate for mine, at a machine shop I work at.
I think the flimsyness is a result of using plastic for the back plate. I expect some time soon to see some manufacturers start selling decent metal plates for the tablet. Overall I am pleased with the build quality though. If your corners seem especially loose try gently squeezing them against the back plate. They might be slightly popped out.
Dave
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CodeLion said:
I certainly can feel the creekyness between the back plate and the screen. It turns out, the back plate is EASILY removable and is only held on by a few clips, no screws. You can actually take it off without voiding your warantee , the void sticker is on a sheet of copper beneath the back plate over the cpu, nand chip etc.
I actually made an aluminum plate for mine, at a machine shop I work at.
I think the flimsyness is a result of using plastic for the back plate. I expect some time soon to see some manufacturers start selling decent metal plates for the tablet. Overall I am pleased with the build quality though. If your corners seem especially loose try gently squeezing them against the back plate. They might be slightly popped out.
Dave
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using xda app-developers app
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Is there any tutorial that shows how to take off the back plate? If so, are there any screws under there that hold on the front of the tablet? It just feels as if a couple of screws might be loose that need tightened up... kinda like what ppl were complaining about on the Nexus 7... and ppl managed to find a way to tighten them up!

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Is there any tutorial that shows how to take off the back plate? If so, are there any screws under there that hold on the front of the tablet? It just feels as if a couple of screws might be loose that need tightened up... kinda like what ppl were complaining about on the Nexus 7... and ppl managed to find a way to tighten them up!
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If you mean screws that hold the back-cover? if so there arent any. See attatched link, thats where i got the idea of taking off the back-cover
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728820
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All 3 blue models i tested had build quality issues (screen/frame).
The white one i settled for is perfect.
All of the above were C5O... serial

I thought this creakyness was a bit of exaggeration but it is definitely there. I have another cheap tablet and it does not feel like this... also the widescreen format makes me feel the screen is too narrow when reading in portrait mode. Kind of having buyer's remorse.

zerozoneice said:
All 3 blue models i tested had build quality issues (screen/frame).
The white one i settled for is perfect.
All of the above were C5O... serial
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Hmm yeah that is strange... unfortunately the store I bought it from only sells a blue one, and if I were to return it now I would only get a gift card as it's outside the 14 day refund period.
I would want to return it really, I am really happy with the tablet on the whole, its just a little disappointing when you undock it and hold it in your hand, the edges of the screen dont feel solid and sturdy, its kinda like what people have been complaining about with the screen popping issues on the nexus 7.
If I were to open the backplate and tighten up all the screws around the edge would this help any?
btw, mine is C6O serial number

Mine is white, and I have that creakiness. But I don't regret it, this tablet is awesome!
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chriwu said:
I can confirm this, mine has had the same creakyness. Only mine had it on the top and left side. It annoyed me alot. What i eventually did to fix it might not be for everyone though. I took of the back-cover and used some household masking-tape in very thin slices around the areas on the edges inside of the back.cover. No more creakyness
But I have also read about some people turning theirs inn and getting a new one without the creaky back-cover.
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Hi Chriwu,
Can you by any chance take a picture of the places you put the masking tape that will help me fix mine?
I cant be bothered returning it if I am just going to get the same thing again on an exchange.
Off Topic:
Does anyone think that apps made for android tablets will explode now that the Nexus 7 has been so popular?

mcall_r said:
Hi Chriwu,
Can you by any chance take a picture of the places you put the masking tape that will help me fix mine?
I cant be bothered returning it if I am just going to get the same thing again on an exchange.
Off Topic:
Does anyone think that apps made for android tablets will explode now that the Nexus 7 has been so popular?
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Sure, here's a picture of the top of the back-cover. You kinda have to feel around the corners of your device to see where you need to "fill" inn with some masking-tape so it stops moving. Also take note of where the plastic clips that holds it to the screen is, so you dont block them.

chriwu said:
Sure, here's a picture of the top of the back-cover. You kinda have to feel around the corners of your device to see where you need to "fill" inn with some masking-tape so it stops moving. Also take note of where the plastic clips that holds it to the screen is, so you dont block them.
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Cool, cheers for this.
Do you think that sponge tape you get would work? Like the stuff you put round doors to stop drafts?

*duplicate post*

mcall_r said:
Cool, cheers for this.
Do you think that sponge tape you get would work? Like the stuff you put round doors to stop drafts?
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Any tape will do really, I just used masking-tape because it's very thin and very easy to take off if it didn't work or if I used too much. It takes very little tape to make a difference.

chriwu said:
Any tape will do really, I just used masking-tape because it's very thin and very easy to take off if it didn't work or if I used too much. It takes very little tape to make a difference.
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Hey, finally got round to doing this today, and what a difference! No more creaks!
I just used brown parcel tape as thats all I had laying around, and just doubled it up in the areas that were the worst, as its very thin. All in all im very impressed. Maybe Asus should have thought of this before it left the factory! lol
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Tell Me Your Experience NOT Using A Screen Protector

I've had my Z1C a little less than a month. I started using a screen protector immediately because of all the warnings I saw here. In the first case I used one of those thin plastic protectors; I didn't like the look or feel. I'm currently using a glass protector; better look and feel. BUT, I really would like to use the phone without any screen protector. I had a Samsung Galaxy S2 for 3-1/2 years that I used without a screen protector (or case). The screen had NO scratches on it when I donated it to charity (the case was a bit roughed up). If any of you have had the Z1C more than 3 months and DON'T use a screen protector, can you tell me how well the screen is holding up? Do you have regrets about NOT using a protector? What is your opinion of all the "must use a screen protector" warnings.
I really like this phone, except for the whole screen delicacy issue. Your opinions are valued. Thanks.

Until they start making Phones with 100% scratch proof/resistant glass then I'll never be without one, the first task before even switching a new Phone on is to apply the provided or pre purchased screen protector because each scratch on the screen directly or even the ASF lowers resale value imo.
I don't believe anyone can properly use a Phone for 3 years and not get a single scratch.

My I9001 (Galaxy S Plus) also didn't have any scratches without ever having used a case or protector. I'm just using one with the Z1C because it was twice as expensive, I don't really think I'd need one.

XperienceD said:
I don't believe anyone can properly use a Phone for 3 years and not get a single scratch.
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Not sure what your definition of "properly" is, but I did use my Galaxy S2 for more than 3 years in both the jungles of Costa Rica and the urban jungles of the US, with nary a scratch. ? Never used a case or protector and always carried it in my front pants pocket. Made sure it was the only thing in that pocket. Am I unique? I doubt it. There must be at least one other soul out there with the same luck. ☺

Iruwen said:
My I9001 (Galaxy S Plus) also didn't have any scratches without ever having used a case or protector. I'm just using one with the Z1C because it was twice as expensive, I don't really think I'd need one.
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Glad to hear our Galaxy experiences were similar. And like you, with all the negative comments on screen scratches, I'm using a protector too. Just would prefer not to. In my case, I paid much more for the S2 than this new Z1. Still, I'd like to keep the screen as undamaged as possible. It's hard for me to believe screens have gotten softer, rather than harder. Might the issue be a bit exaggerated? That's why I'm looking for responses from users not using protection.

rebecker said:
Not sure what your definition of "properly" is, but I did use my Galaxy S2 for more than 3 years in both the jungles of Costa Rica and the urban jungles of the US, with nary a scratch.
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Hmm...
...(skip to 1:00) well that's interesting. I think the main problem with Sony is that the logo is baked into the ASF so if you remove it you remove the logo which I certainly don't want to do, but even then given the search results for gorilla glass scratched, I still wouldn't want to be without one.

XperienceD said:
Hmm...
...well that's interesting. I think the main problem with Sony is that the logo is baked into the ASF so if you remove it you remove the logo which I certainly don't want to do, but even then given the search results for gorilla glass scratched, I still wouldn't want to be without one.
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So, it seems that the issue is not the softness of the glass, it's the softness of the ASF. So, once the ASF is damaged (a week, a month, a year, perhaps 3 years ) it can be removed and a glass protector or oleophobic coating liquid could be used to "refresh" the screen. So, what to do, what to do, hmmm? 1. Add a protector right away. 2. Remove the ASF once it gets damaged and add a protector. Or... 3. Remove the ASF once it gets damaged and use the coating liquid. None of these are really options I was looking for. So...again...anyone out there having good success with the Z1C's screen after 3 months of use who hasn't added any type of protection?

its like sex without a condom. much more fun without the protection, but you are afraid all the time

I've had mine for about 7 months and there has begun to appear small 'smudge-like' blemishes on the ASF. They're practically unnoticeable in daily use, partly because they're so small and 'light', but mostly because they're covered up by all the fingerprints. This is how I came to this thread, I noticed the fingerprints and thought perhaps I should test a scratch-protector, decided to wipe the phone to show off my 'protector-free spotless screen', but lo and behold, there are (albeit very slight) imperfections below the smudges!
While considering the period of use (7 months, not long, but not short either), these 'scratches' are hardly noteworthy, but I could definitively image it becoming a "problem" after 2-3 years, though it certainly depends on the care of which you handle the phone. I too keep my phone alone in the pocket as I'm sure keys would make quick work of the seemingly malleable ASF. I've twice during this period dropped the phone behind the bed, but never any significant (read: pavement) or high-height drops. But if you want your phone to stay mint then I'd probably have to recommend a scratch-protector. Perhaps even wiping the phone with certain kind of fabrics create these slight blemishes as well, or at least worsens prior scuff-marks.
But I'm worried about your opinions on the screen-protectors since I too have always disliked them (from afar, I've never actually used them myself.) I used my phone without any sort of protection for the first 6.5 months, just recently I received a semi-thin (terrapin) case because I noticed how bad the plastic backside was getting scratched for some reason -- worst part is I like the terrapin, which I didn't think I would, so I wish I'd gotten around to it earlier. When compared to the plastic backside, the ASF is pure diamond.
Think I'll order some type of scratch-protector to see if I can live with it, but I'm also not too worried about making the screen unreadable by not using one.

Tograd said:
I've had mine for about 7 months and there has begun to appear small 'smudge-like' blemishes on the ASF......
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Thanks for your reply. As I've read the responses here, I've become convinced that a screen protector is probably generally needed. Sad . I currently have the Skinomi Techskin Carbon Fiber applique on the back. It looks good. I tried the Skinomi screen protector, but disliked the look and feel. I'm now using the Brando Tempered Glass Rounded Edition. It looks great and feels right to the touch. Other than 2 tiny flaws (one in the glass and one caused by my not getting all the dust off), it's nearly perfect. (And Brando's customer service is second to none!) So...I guess I'm going to use the protection, as much as I think it is a serious flaw on Sony's part. Not sure what their rationale was in using ASF. I expect more from them.
That being said, I love this phone.

Agree and I appreciate the suggestions/recommendations.
I was hesitant to upload a photo of my phone because everything looks way worse than it really is.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6xEhyXR0UeEN2JZZll3OERQQ28/edit
95% of what you see in the picture is invisible in real life. So it's not as bad as it might seem, and a lot of it is probably just grease/dust rather than physical marks, but a lot of it is real (regardless if you can see it with your eyes or not) and is bound to accumulate further over time. The bottom left scuff is real but it does not look anything as bad as it does in that picture -- might have come about while phone was sliding around under my bed or something, though it looks more like 'pocket-wear' rather than a 1-time-accident. Perhaps most of if could have been avoided by having a raised-edge case.

Tograd said:
Agree and I appreciate the suggestions/recommendations.
I was hesitant to upload a photo of my phone because everything looks way worse than it really is.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6xEhyXR0UeEN2JZZll3OERQQ28/edit
95% of what you see in the picture is invisible in real life. So it's not as bad as it might seem, and a lot of it is probably just grease/dust rather than physical marks, but a lot of it is real (regardless if you can see it with your eyes or not) and is bound to accumulate further over time. The bottom left scuff is real but it does not look anything as bad as it does in that picture -- might have come about while phone was sliding around under my bed or something, though it looks more like 'pocket-wear' rather than a 1-time-accident. Perhaps most of if could have been avoided by having a raised-edge case.
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Thanks for the picture.
I used my phone for 4 days without screen protection. The accumulation of finger prints was extreme. But even more extreme was the way the phone acted as a dust magnet. Again, I'm assuming the ASF was the issue. The screen protection eliminated most of the dust issue and a good deal of the finger print intensity. And, of course, the back protection eliminated all of the dust and finger print issues.
So... I guess I'm beating a dead horse. ? This phone requires protection.

My experience is really bad... I got scrathes 2 hours after i got my phone (both on the back and on the front)... I applied a protector on the back. But i found a site that sells original Sony ASF (it has the Sony logo printed on it). So I decided that once this one looks too bad I'll replace it.
I can search for the link if you want me to.
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I guess you missed the "NOT".

I'm using the Z1c since release and got a new one in June (warranty). I never used a protector on any of my phones. The first Z1c I had got many small scratsches (not visible when the screen was on) - but still had many scratches. Since the new one I'm really careful and that helps a lot: not visible scratch since June:
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Iruwen said:
I guess you missed the "NOT".
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Who? Me?
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Replacement Screen

Has anybody replaced the screen on this device? I'm looking for a replacement.
Found this:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/152201847036

gmillz said:
Has anybody replaced the screen on this device? I'm looking for a replacement.
Found this:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/152201847036
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Just curious why you chose the one for 80 when there are ones for 59 to 69?
I have gotten this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Mo...e174428&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=152201847036 or this one https://www.fixez.com/store/motorola/motorola-moto-x-pure-edition with no problems

Because the others I looked at did not have speaker grills.
Also saw this a lot of the repair videos use: http://www.repairsuniverse.com/moto...reLCDframeblk&utm_campaign=JerryRigEverything

Keep us updated!

Replaced screen on my nexus 6, should be similar. Not that difficult.
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I'm thinking to change mine from service center because of yellow tint.

I've replaced the screen twice ,added pogo pins to the second sim slot which I broke out (its just glued in) turning my xt1575 into a xt1572 using chinese dual sim software (works better than FI) I like using Verizon and Tmobile at the same time in the US, I literally have service everywhere, I';m only using a Verizon Tablet Sim cause I have many other SIP numbers linked in. I live in Colorado and need a **** load of numbers.
Its really easy to change the screen, I strongly suggest spending a few extra bucks and get one thats already on its frame or GOOD LUCK GETTTING THE OLD ONE ON THE NEW FRAME, YOU JUST WASTED BUCKS IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE. YOU MUST GET THE VERSION WITH THE FRAME OR YOu will be attempting to remove your old frame, clean it, and pray you line everytrhing up right (and it takes about 5 hours longer with a heat gun) I can change a screen with frame (the speaker grills pop off and pop onto the new one you must pull out straight and push in dead straight. I promise this, did it twice.
The hardest thing is getting all the little screws back in without torquing the screen and making little light colored spots, took me many hours the first time of adjustment to get it right and it didn't last.
Itrs been a pretty good phone but it is no droid x. its chinese as hell. I dropped a sledgehammer on my droid x., tore out half the aluminum frame but left Gorilla Glass one perfect (Gorilla Glass has only gotten ****tier) plus a rounded screen is downright stupid. I dropeed it on a empty pill bottle one time, another time it was just broken creen facing in in my pocket. It is no American phone, its Legend all the way.
Still good phone, still extrodinarily hackable if you get the **** away from android its basically a shark running debian with the antennas I've soldered onto it now running my scanners. Check previous posts to se where I soldered, I gained (lost) 10 points rssi on 2.4 all around bluetooth goes forever and 5G well, its fast. I noticed having more bluetooths and wifis in range made my location accuracy jump. I don't like that/.

I've changed the screen also after dropping it.
And I would also suggest to get the version with the frame.
I have 2 little spots on the left upper side and right bottom side but they aren't anoying.
I was happy that my screen was working.

How do you know if the screen has the frame? I'm looking at this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-LCD-d...sh=item2ca7621020:g:z3AAAOSwCypWnjQc#shpCntId. @JeffreyM @NixonP

Same here, i ordered one with the frame, but i still want to know..... i ordered btw this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252361820613
And opening the phone was a peace of cake, only you need to look you really got all the screws out. i almost forgot the one that was mounted on the Motherboard.
Also popping out the speaker grills is easy peasy work.

I'm looking for one from EU so I avoid paying import taxes but I think I'll have to order one from outside of EU. BTW do you notice any difference in the display quality?

somecro said:
How do you know if the screen has the frame? I'm looking at this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-LCD-d...sh=item2ca7621020:g:z3AAAOSwCypWnjQc#shpCntId. @JeffreyM @NixonP
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http://www.etradesupply.com/motorola-moto-x-style-lcd-screen-assembly-with-front-housing-black.html
Very fast shipping. 1 week from China to Europe.

somecro said:
How do you know if the screen has the frame? I'm looking at this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-LCD-d...sh=item2ca7621020:g:z3AAAOSwCypWnjQc#shpCntId. @JeffreyM @NixonP
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I do not believe that the one that you are showing the link to has the frame, it doesn't say it has the frame in the description and if you look at the picture and look at the top of the screen where the speaker grill would go, if it had the frame you would not be able to see through to the white background, it would have the black frame to hold the speaker grill and you would not see the white background.

Tight Screws -> Light Bleed
NixonP said:
The hardest thing is getting all the little screws back in without torquing the screen and making little light colored spots, took me many hours the first time of adjustment to get it right and it didn't last.
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Did you ever figure out a reliable trick for this? My kid cracked my screen this week, so I picked up the replacement screen/digitizer/frame from fixez.com. It swapped out easy enough, but the only way I can get the light bleed to go away is to back the nearby screws off to the point where I can easily get my fingernail in the gap between the front and middle pieces of the frame (i.e. a no-go).
I've got an email out to fixez.com to get their input. It seems to me that you should be able to put the screws in till they're tight (not wrenching them down, but snug) without worrying about distorting the screen.

Hey I ordered the following from gadget fix and replaced it myself.
Item name:Motorola Moto X Pure Edition XT1575 LCD Screen + Touch Screen Digitizer + Frame
Item number:231820642901
Earlier I had ordered the one without frame but had to return it because it was impossible to separate our the frame from old screen and attach it to the new screen

I ordered the screen from China over eBay and replaced it today. The process isn't so hard but the screen is damaged (as shown in the picture).
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The process isn't so hard but the screen is damaged (as shown in the picture)
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I had a similar issue with my replacement screen and it turned out that the screws were too tight
After loosing them a little the bright spot went away. I will try that before ordering a second screen

As a new user, what all do I need to worry about with this phone's display? Are there very common issues where I'm likely going to need to replace this screen? I'm not looking to keep this phone for longer than a year. It's just serving as my daily driver until the next Samsung Note device is released (and proven not to blow up). Thanks.

Sailor Gerry said:
As a new user, what all do I need to worry about with this phone's display? Are there very common issues where I'm likely going to need to replace this screen? I'm not looking to keep this phone for longer than a year. It's just serving as my daily driver until the next Samsung Note device is released (and proven not to blow up). Thanks.
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Keep a good case on it and try not to drop it or bang the screen too much. The screen is more susceptible to cracking from drops due to the curvature and prominence of the glass from the frame. A face down or side drop means the glass is more likely to take the impact directly vs another phone in which the screen is flush with the frame. As far as defective screens (I.e. color or pixel issues) I don't think it is any more prominent than any other brand. However, of you have have submitted for and received an unlock code for your bootloader, your warranty is void, and Motorola will most likely deny any warranty claim.

aybarrap1 said:
Keep a good case on it and try not to drop it or bang the screen too much. The screen is more susceptible to cracking from drops due to the curvature and prominence of the glass from the frame. A face down or side drop means the glass is more likely to take the impact directly vs another phone in which the screen is flush with the frame. As far as defective screens (I.e. color or pixel issues) I don't think it is any more prominent than any other brand. However, of you have have submitted for and received an unlock code for your bootloader, your warranty is void, and Motorola will most likely deny any warranty claim.
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