Build Quality - Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I recently got a TF300 and so far I love it (for the most part). I am still on the stock ROM and am thinking of rooting and going custom soon, I just cant be bothered with the backup and restore really.
What I'd like to know is if the build quality on everyone's tab is the same.
I have a blue one, with the keyboard dock and I bought from Comet in the UK.
When I use the pad un-docked, there is a noticeable creakyness to the edges of the bezel. On the right side of the screen, and the bottom - just where the dock alignment arrow is, i feel as if I can push the edges up and down like a sponge. Its almost as if the screws arent tightened enough to hold it together properly. It is not a major issue, but it does really bug me because I paid £400 for this gadget.
I also notice that there is a dip in the keyboard, around the letters JKL.
Please tell me if other people have the same thing or if I'm the only one, because if that is the case i'd feel inclined to return and exchange it.
Many Thanks

mcall_r said:
When I use the pad un-docked, there is a noticeable creakyness to the edges of the bezel. On the right side of the screen, and the bottom - just where the dock alignment arrow is, i feel as if I can push the edges up and down like a sponge.
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Confirming the creakyness on the bottom edge, near the usb port. Not quite like a sponge, but it's noticeable during regular use. Also, if you look really carefully you can see between the black bezel and the silver margin, right under the dock arrow. It doesn't seem worth it to return the tablet over something like this, but it's a little bit disappointing at this price range.
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I can confirm this, mine has had the same creakyness. Only mine had it on the top and left side. It annoyed me alot. What i eventually did to fix it might not be for everyone though. I took of the back-cover and used some household masking-tape in very thin slices around the areas on the edges inside of the back.cover. No more creakyness
But I have also read about some people turning theirs inn and getting a new one without the creaky back-cover.

I was also slightly disappointed that there is some creaky movement on the casing of my TF300T. It almost feels like I could pop the back off at the top right corner.

pukeboy said:
I was also slightly disappointed that there is some creaky movement on the casing of my TF300T. It almost feels like I could pop the back off at the top right corner.
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I don't feel any creakyness. It must be my girlie arms. No offense to girls.

I certainly can feel the creekyness between the back plate and the screen. It turns out, the back plate is EASILY removable and is only held on by a few clips, no screws. You can actually take it off without voiding your warantee , the void sticker is on a sheet of copper beneath the back plate over the cpu, nand chip etc.
I actually made an aluminum plate for mine, at a machine shop I work at.
I think the flimsyness is a result of using plastic for the back plate. I expect some time soon to see some manufacturers start selling decent metal plates for the tablet. Overall I am pleased with the build quality though. If your corners seem especially loose try gently squeezing them against the back plate. They might be slightly popped out.
Dave
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CodeLion said:
I certainly can feel the creekyness between the back plate and the screen. It turns out, the back plate is EASILY removable and is only held on by a few clips, no screws. You can actually take it off without voiding your warantee , the void sticker is on a sheet of copper beneath the back plate over the cpu, nand chip etc.
I actually made an aluminum plate for mine, at a machine shop I work at.
I think the flimsyness is a result of using plastic for the back plate. I expect some time soon to see some manufacturers start selling decent metal plates for the tablet. Overall I am pleased with the build quality though. If your corners seem especially loose try gently squeezing them against the back plate. They might be slightly popped out.
Dave
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Is there any tutorial that shows how to take off the back plate? If so, are there any screws under there that hold on the front of the tablet? It just feels as if a couple of screws might be loose that need tightened up... kinda like what ppl were complaining about on the Nexus 7... and ppl managed to find a way to tighten them up!

mcall_r said:
Is there any tutorial that shows how to take off the back plate? If so, are there any screws under there that hold on the front of the tablet? It just feels as if a couple of screws might be loose that need tightened up... kinda like what ppl were complaining about on the Nexus 7... and ppl managed to find a way to tighten them up!
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If you mean screws that hold the back-cover? if so there arent any. See attatched link, thats where i got the idea of taking off the back-cover
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728820
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All 3 blue models i tested had build quality issues (screen/frame).
The white one i settled for is perfect.
All of the above were C5O... serial

I thought this creakyness was a bit of exaggeration but it is definitely there. I have another cheap tablet and it does not feel like this... also the widescreen format makes me feel the screen is too narrow when reading in portrait mode. Kind of having buyer's remorse.

zerozoneice said:
All 3 blue models i tested had build quality issues (screen/frame).
The white one i settled for is perfect.
All of the above were C5O... serial
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Hmm yeah that is strange... unfortunately the store I bought it from only sells a blue one, and if I were to return it now I would only get a gift card as it's outside the 14 day refund period.
I would want to return it really, I am really happy with the tablet on the whole, its just a little disappointing when you undock it and hold it in your hand, the edges of the screen dont feel solid and sturdy, its kinda like what people have been complaining about with the screen popping issues on the nexus 7.
If I were to open the backplate and tighten up all the screws around the edge would this help any?
btw, mine is C6O serial number

Mine is white, and I have that creakiness. But I don't regret it, this tablet is awesome!
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chriwu said:
I can confirm this, mine has had the same creakyness. Only mine had it on the top and left side. It annoyed me alot. What i eventually did to fix it might not be for everyone though. I took of the back-cover and used some household masking-tape in very thin slices around the areas on the edges inside of the back.cover. No more creakyness
But I have also read about some people turning theirs inn and getting a new one without the creaky back-cover.
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Hi Chriwu,
Can you by any chance take a picture of the places you put the masking tape that will help me fix mine?
I cant be bothered returning it if I am just going to get the same thing again on an exchange.
Off Topic:
Does anyone think that apps made for android tablets will explode now that the Nexus 7 has been so popular?

mcall_r said:
Hi Chriwu,
Can you by any chance take a picture of the places you put the masking tape that will help me fix mine?
I cant be bothered returning it if I am just going to get the same thing again on an exchange.
Off Topic:
Does anyone think that apps made for android tablets will explode now that the Nexus 7 has been so popular?
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Sure, here's a picture of the top of the back-cover. You kinda have to feel around the corners of your device to see where you need to "fill" inn with some masking-tape so it stops moving. Also take note of where the plastic clips that holds it to the screen is, so you dont block them.

chriwu said:
Sure, here's a picture of the top of the back-cover. You kinda have to feel around the corners of your device to see where you need to "fill" inn with some masking-tape so it stops moving. Also take note of where the plastic clips that holds it to the screen is, so you dont block them.
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Cool, cheers for this.
Do you think that sponge tape you get would work? Like the stuff you put round doors to stop drafts?

*duplicate post*

mcall_r said:
Cool, cheers for this.
Do you think that sponge tape you get would work? Like the stuff you put round doors to stop drafts?
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Any tape will do really, I just used masking-tape because it's very thin and very easy to take off if it didn't work or if I used too much. It takes very little tape to make a difference.

chriwu said:
Any tape will do really, I just used masking-tape because it's very thin and very easy to take off if it didn't work or if I used too much. It takes very little tape to make a difference.
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Hey, finally got round to doing this today, and what a difference! No more creaks!
I just used brown parcel tape as thats all I had laying around, and just doubled it up in the areas that were the worst, as its very thin. All in all im very impressed. Maybe Asus should have thought of this before it left the factory! lol
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Brown splotch top left corner

So I recently replaced my headphone jack and speaker recently using parts I ordered from Parts Universe b/c my headphone jack stopped working after I had dropped my Captivate face down on my asphalt driveway...
Anyways, my headphone jack works great now. Only problem... about a day after I had replaced the headphone jack I noticed a dark brownish/orange splotch in the top left corner of my screen that comes down about 1/2" from the top of the screen and then back up to the top of the screen.
Did I mess something up when changing out my parts? I have taken the phone apart before just to see if I could do it, and nothing happened... I never ran into any problems when taking it apart/putting it back together... Has anyone ever seen anything like this before?
I have attached a screenshot of my homescreen with some editing in Paint to show what it looks like. It is transparent, almost like the screen is half-dead in that area.
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Here it is. It also seems to be spreading... was not like this a couple of days ago...
I was going to pass this up because I couldn't tell what was added in Paint and what's wrong, but thought I'd tell you that. How about an unmodified screenshot?
Also did you solder the new connector on with the board in the phone, getting the screen hot in that area?
CuriousTech said:
I was going to pass this up because I couldn't tell what was added in Paint and what's wrong, but thought I'd tell you that. How about an unmodified screenshot?
Also did you solder the new connector on with the board in the phone, getting the screen hot in that area?
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Well I would post an unmodified screen shot if the defect was shown in it. But it's basically what I drew in, the area outlined in orange is the border of the splotch. It's like if you have a damaged monitor, but take a screenshot of your desktop it won't show that the monitor is damaged, it will only show what the desktop looks like normally.
There was no soldering involved in replacing the headphone jack and front speaker. I just stuck it in there and plugged it into the motherboard. That's why this is so puzzling... Just wanted to know if anyone else has had a similar problem?
Maybe I should try and re-install my defective headphone jack and see if the problem still persists...
I had dropped my Captivate face down on my asphalt driveway
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Sounds like your problem right there. To me, it sounds like your screen is physically borked (i.e. you need a new screen), but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say that is the case for sure. It might be helpful if you can grab a camera and upload a few pictures, both with the screen on and off, so we can better see what's happening.
jmtheiss said:
Sounds like your problem right there. To me, it sounds like your screen is physically borked (i.e. you need a new screen), but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say that is the case for sure. It might be helpful if you can grab a camera and upload a few pictures, both with the screen on and off, so we can better see what's happening.
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I will try to take a photo using another camera for sure...
Although I dropped my phone over two months ago and the screen was perfectly fine after (I did have a silicone case on it, so the extra width saved the screen), not a single scratch. This splotch came into existence after I replaced my headphone jack this week.
richuwo11 said:
I will try to take a photo using another camera for sure...
Although I dropped my phone over two months ago and the screen was perfectly fine after (I did have a silicone case on it, so the extra width saved the screen), not a single scratch. This splotch came into existence after I replaced my headphone jack this week.
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Just another guess - it's possible that the screen separated partially from the gorilla glass covering it. That opening could be causing the brown splotch you're seeing - almost like a bubble in between a screen protector and the screen.
could it possibly be a thumb-print inside the screen? In taking it apart did you ever come in contact with the backside of the screen. The oils from your skin can heat up under there and cause the discoloration.
jmtheiss said:
Just another guess - it's possible that the screen separated partially from the gorilla glass covering it. That opening could be causing the brown splotch you're seeing - almost like a bubble in between a screen protector and the screen.
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That does sound possible... I will take it apart again tonight and give it a thorough inspection.
It's really not that bad, only b/c it's in the corner, but it does really bother me. It looks terrible on anything with a white background though, like when you browse the internet or some parts of the marketplace.
Thanks for the responses guys. I will report back with my findings.
So I took everything apart last night again, replaced my new headphone jack with the old part and the splotch is still there... so it's not the replacement part I got.
All of the components look good, there's no dust or dirt anywhere, nothing rattles when I shake it... I don't know what could have happened...
I don't think I'm going to be buying a new screen for it, they run about $150 and for that price, I might as well get a new phone.
I'll just have to deal with it.
richuwo11 said:
So I took everything apart last night again, replaced my new headphone jack with the old part and the splotch is still there... so it's not the replacement part I got.
All of the components look good, there's no dust or dirt anywhere, nothing rattles when I shake it... I don't know what could have happened...
I don't think I'm going to be buying a new screen for it, they run about $150 and for that price, I might as well get a new phone.
I'll just have to deal with it.
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Try to have it replaced for free. It's a knowed phenomenon in electronics of all kind. Your replacement of the headjack might have just exacerbate a existing problem.
Brown spot on screen
silvertag said:
Try to have it replaced for free. It's a knowed phenomenon in electronics of all kind. Your replacement of the headjack might have just exacerbate a existing problem.
Brown spot on screen
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Hmm... thanks for the info.
I will have to call up Samsung and see what they say. Only problem is that I have the AT&T version of the phone and using it in Canada.
Hopefully Samsung is nice enough to still honour the warranty.
richuwo11 said:
Hmm... thanks for the info.
I will have to call up Samsung and see what they say. Only problem is that I have the AT&T version of the phone and using it in Canada.
Hopefully Samsung is nice enough to still honour the warranty.
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how did you obtain this captivate? if you are not the original purchaser you do not have a warranty. and also if you are sim unlocked you had to root to do that which voids the warranty so before you send it to sammy relock the sim restrictions and odin one click back to stock
added photos to the OP.
What do you think?
It really looks like layer separation to me. As if the glass is pulling away from the digitizer or something.
I guess it is spreading, since it looks much larger than first described...
Yep layer separation.
joeybear23 said:
It really looks like layer separation to me. As if the glass is pulling away from the digitizer or something.
I guess it is spreading, since it looks much larger than first described...
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Ok, so how do I fix it? Nothing looks loose or out of place to me. Everything fits snug and is screwed in, not loose or too tight.
Maybe just the way I snapped the outer plastic shell to the digitizer? Last time I put it together I snapped it in from top to bottom. Maybe I should try bottom to top?
richuwo11 said:
Ok, so how do I fix it? Nothing looks loose or out of place to me. Everything fits snug and is screwed in, not loose or too tight.
Maybe just the way I snapped the outer plastic shell to the digitizer? Last time I put it together I snapped it in from top to bottom. Maybe I should try bottom to top?
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If it is layer separation, I don't think there is a way to fix it. I believe the two layers are most likely put together with a special adhesive by machine. The discoloration is probably the adhesive being exposed to elements that it was not designed to come in contact with. I suspect this would have happened regardless of your activities, unless you inadvertently pried away the corner of the glass in your maintenance.
If you didn't break any "do not remove" seals while you were working on it, you may be able to get it repaired under warranty as a factory defect...
Yep. That's not going back together. Most likely it's from flexing a corner out to hard. Fixing it would require 3M Vikuiti type material. Well, that's from LCD backing. Maybe a polorizor for the front. Take it all apart, clean the surfaces in a cleanroom. That kinda thing. Not fun.
joeybear23 said:
If it is layer separation, I don't think there is a way to fix it. I believe the two layers are most likely put together with a special adhesive by machine. The discoloration is probably the adhesive being exposed to elements that it was not designed to come in contact with. I suspect this would have happened regardless of your activities, unless you inadvertently pried away the corner of the glass in your maintenance.
If you didn't break any "do not remove" seals while you were working on it, you may be able to get it repaired under warranty as a factory defect...
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Thanks for the info... I will have to contact Samsung.
All because of a stupid broken headphone jack...

Lifting Screen?

Anyone else have the problem of the screen lifting?
I have only had the phone a few weeks, never dropped it.
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Then I can press it down:
But it creeps back up.
I read a post that a high capacity battery, which is slightly larger, can force this to happen. Are you using the standard battery or a replacement high capacity one?
Standard battery.
I even tried keeping the screen and case clamped together over night. (very carefully obviously!)
It stayed normal slightly longer than when you just press it, but did still rise back up.
Got the exact same problem, also never dropped, and tried the exact same solution.
It's not that the case is bent, so it must be the screen flexing and lifting from the band of adhesive that holds it in. My worry is that it will get worse. I can even insert a slip of paper between the frame and the screen on one side, for about a quarter of the length on the right hand side towards the bottom (so 5 O clock if it was a clock face.) But the actual corner I can't get a slip of paper under, so the problem on mine is more the latter part of the lower side of the screen on the right.
I'm often tempted to lift it more and try to put in a tiny blob of glue or to try to smuggle glue in using a bit of paper as a delivery method, but my fear is a) smears and b) that releasing the screen any more than is necessary in order to get glue in will cause the adhesive to fail more - and the glue might not work anyways. Superglue is a no-no by the way, it'd be more something like UHU or Bostik.
But if it gets worse... Let me know if you're brave enough to try.
PS
I've not contacted HTC to ask for a swap - this phone is a swap and I just don't fancy the rigmarole again. But you might ask them.
I have seen other thread on XDA with other devices that have done this.
I mean the buttons and everything works perfectly, seems daft to send it back for this, but then it IS a fault.
I did wonder if it was a heat issue? I have noticed that when you play a game on it for a while, holding it it does get warm...does this make the adhesive soft and flex??
One possible thing that makes the glue not so strong is high temperature. I have 2 Sensations before Desire S, and i was disapointed from that phone because of the poor glue quality on the display. In the first one i have dust under digitizer and display and the second one have the same problem as your Desire S. The only way to fix this is to open the phone, remove the digitizer with display (without separate them), buy 2mm 3M Sticker and put new sticker on the places that are not fitting good. It is not so hard but if you want to do that you need to be VERU CAREFUL with the display because it's very thin and you can broke it. On Youtube you can find few dissembling video for desire s. Good luck!!
The science of expansion and contraction? You can try leaving it in your refrigerator awhile and see what happens
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I have this problem, and still do have this problem. It used to really urk me off at first, but I've since learn to live with it unfortunately.
The right side of the bottom of the display is worse than the left side, but the left side has a 0.2mm gap between the screen and the casing, right where the USB port is (only visible when the battery cover is removed and light is shining through the back) (I also believe the creaking case comes from near this area).
Once again, it used to frustrate me to all hell seeing it, but I've learned to live with it.
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I have this problem, and still do have this problem. It used to really urk me off at first, but I've since learn to live with it unfortunately.
The right side of the bottom of the display is worse than the left side, but the left side has a 0.2mm gap between the screen and the casing, right where the USB port is (only visible when the battery cover is removed and light is shining through the back) (I also believe the creaking case comes from near this area).
Once again, it used to frustrate me to all hell seeing it, but I've learned to live with it.
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You are all making me tempted to get the UHU out
Mine is the same.
But i have noticed it since it came out from the box...
Thankfully I've not experienced this problem, but I will throw a couple of ideas into the pot for interest:
(1) If I remember correctly, applying heat is part of the official method for removing the glass screen from the body during the repair process. This suggests that the DS may be much more vulnerable when hot.
(2) Don't even think of using superglue (cyanoacrylate) for glueing the glass back. This stuff seems to have a volatile component that can mist up displays or windows some distance away (as I previously discovered to my cost on another project).
I also suffer from this symptom, and have done out of the box. I've noticed that if you rub from the body onto the glass on the top of the phone it's flush, whereas on the bottom there is a definite rise on the glass. I can also push the glass down on the bottom corners. But they always rise up again instantly. I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case with every desire s.
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Had the same issue since day one, in April, only that with me it was the lower right corner, not as dramatic as the one in the picture though. Also had a gap between the screen gasket and the body of the frame (one could stick a thick sheet of paper through);
I sent the phone to the warranty center and got it back a few days later with a crappy statement that the manufactury/ assembly issues i reported are not considered faults...
So i sealed the gap with fine black silicone paste (just a tricle) and learned to live with the risen screen corner.
After discovering the faults with my phone I checked with other handsets at every dealer I came across and guess what? about 1/3 of the terminals examined with my now "expert" eye have one or several of the issues mentioned in this thread.
I think the phone was rushed into production and somebody screwed big time in the Quality Control department before it was released for mass production.
So you can complain to the HTC call-center and try to have the handset replaced. If you get a replacement, so much the better. Good luck!
Interesting to hear so many people suffering from it.
May just learn to live with it as it does sound like a common fault, and sending it back may be a waste of time!
The issue for me is if it gets worse as I know it wasn't there originally (having read a post about it and checked my phone carefully.) Four months later....
Part of me doesn't want the faff of sending it back...
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Ok so I am not alone on this. Had the same issue but not to the extent in the pics attached, mine was a little loose on the bottom right corner, if pressed made a creaking/squeaking sound, if kept pressed for a few seconds, would get fixed for a few hours.
How I inadvertently fixed it is by forgetting my phone in direct sunlight for a good 30-40 mins, must have been 35-40 Celsius out around 2 PM. When I remembered and retrieved my phone from my terrace it was considerably hot, just turned it on to check if the phone was alright, must have pressed down due to force of habit but I think the glue stuck for good that time.
Never squeaked since then.
By no means is this a way to fix your phone but it worked for me by chance.
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Damn HTC for their shabby build quality.
So what happens if I apply a hairdryer to the screen? Good idea, bad idea?
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So what happens if I apply a hairdryer to the screen? Good idea, bad idea?
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Don't think it's a good idea. Try getting HTC to do something about it, if they could take it off and reapply the screen with the required adhesive.
Earlier today I left it by my laptop fan and it got very hot, held the screen down after and it did stick back for longer, but did creep up again... luckily the heat didn't damage my done I may email o2 as there support is better than htc's! They replaced my screen in my old HD2 last year no problems.
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[HOWTO] Replace Atrix 2 Touchscreen

I recently destroyed the screen on my A2 and repaired it with ease. Honestly very ease to take apart. I wanted to share my experience and show others how to do so as well.
Hopefully, you will NEVER need this! But if you do, here is the how to!
Mods? Please sticky if you see fit to.
DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible if your phone does not work after the repair. However, if you follow these instructions you should be fine.
WHAT YOU WILL NEED:
1. Obviously you will need a replacement screen. I got mine for 30 bucks HERE and it came to my house VERY well packaged and quick. Otherwise if that link winds up going down, LET ME GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU.
2. A Torx 5 driver. You can find one at most electronics stores as this is a VERY tiny size usually only used on electronics. I got mine HERE for cheap! Once again if that link also goes down, I CAN GOOGLE THAT FOR YOU ALSO.
3. A magnet. This is for you to rub your new screwdriver against so it becomes magnetized. Makes it easier to get those pesky tiny screws out without dropping them and losing them forever.
4. A PLASTIC pry tool of some sort. You can be creative with this like I did (you'll see in the later pics) but make sure it's plastic so you don't damage your phone. UPDATE: Find one here, as well as a T5 driver.
5. Two small containers to put the screws in. Why two? There are two different size screws you will be removing and you DON"T WANT TO MIX THEM UP. They are different lengths. Jamming the wrong screw in the wrong hole is a bad idea.
6. A hairdryer or even a butane torch on low heat. Or, if you have none of those a razor blade. For separating the glass from the silver bezel.
7. A roll of 2mm double adhesive tape for adhering the new glass to the body. Also used for getting the proper gap in between the lcd screen and digitizer. Find it HERE.
8. GOOD glass cleaner and a microfiber cloth. I will touch on that later.
THE REPAIR
Once you get in a good lit area pull your battery cover off, (I felt no need to tell you guys how to do this) pull the battery out, the sim card and SD card. You will be left with what you see below:
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Next, you will find NINE screws around the circumference of the phone. At this point, if you haven't done so already, take your T5 driver and rub it like a madman on the magnet for a good 30 seconds. High school chemistry tells us that you have just magnetized the tip of your driver! Remove the screws and place them in one of your two containers. And for Pete's sake not close to the edge of the table either.
Next you need to separate the back of the phone from the motherboard. It is SNAPPED into place. Grab your plastic pry tool, and CAREFULLY start separating the two from each other. You will notice the Motorola conveniently placed "pry points" around the phone making this easier. Don't jam the tool too far in as the phone's motherboard is underneath and you don't want to damage it. Do this part correctly and you should have something looking like this:
Your next step is to CAREFULLY pop off the three connections for the touch screen digitizer, the LCD screen and the Ear piece speaker which I have circled for you in the pic located above. Using your plastic pry tool again, carefully pry straight up on the and they should pop off. See the two pics below for examples (yes my fingernails are dirty. Hush, I'm a VW tech.)
No you can see how I got creative with my pry tool.
Once you get those connections popped off, it's time to take the mother board out. At this point touch something metal in your house to discharge any static electricity you may have inadvertently built up. Probably not necessary, but I always do so when I am tearing down my PC, so why not? The MB is also just clipped into place, so using your Plastic pry tool (or bread tie LOL), CAREFULLY pry up on the MB and place it in a SAFE PLACE. Be careful that it doesn't grab on any of the three connections. Treat the MB like gold! You will then be presented with something like below:
At this point pull up on the ear piece speaker/LED and place it aside (you can see it in the above pic in the middle of the phone). Next, you will find the last set of screws you need to pull. There are eight in total holding the metal backing plate to the LCD screen. Remove them, and place them in the OTHER container, re-magnetizing your driver if you need to before removing. Once the screws are out, you can easily pull the metal plate from the back of the LCD screen. See below:
There are only two things between you and replacing your screen now.
BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS NEXT STEP AS YOU ARE ABOUT TO REMOVE THE LCD SCREEN AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO SCRATCH IT!!!!!
The LCD screen is slightly adhered in to place with double-sided tape around the circumference of the phone to separate the screen from the digitizer. Now using your pry tool carefully work around the screen until it comes out. Place it FACE DOWN on something soft so as not to scratch it and keep it clean. See below:
Now the HARD PART. First remove the small plastic piece in the upper right corner of the phone that covers up the glass/digitizer connector (see pic below). Now the glass is adhered STRONGLY to the case of the phone. I have heard of people using a hairdryer to heat up the glue to release it, which is the best idea as you will have a much cleaner surface after you're done. Carefully, and slowly, with NOT TOO MUCH HEAT heat up the edges of the screen to soften the glue and lift it out.
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Use a heat gun and warm up the glass first, then take it out. If you do it right, all of the adhesive will come out with it.
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I have not used the aforementioned method, (which is better and cleaner I would imagine) but not a lot of people have a heatgun or butane heater so I am leaving the following optional method:
Carefully take your razor blade and work your way around the the phone to separate the the glass from the body, carefully pulling the connector through the body of the phone. It wasn't too difficult for me. Be careful not to cut yourself! SAFETY FIRST!!!
You will finally be left with your old nasty screen and the body:
PREPARING TO GLUE ON THE NEW GLASS:
Depending on the method you used to to separate the glass you are going to be left with some old glue remaining. Using your razor blade, or whatever you see fit, remove the old glue COMPLETELY to get a good sealing surface for your new glass. If you used heat you might have even got the old glue clean off with the glass! Now my glass came with plastic on both sides, so at this point remove the side that is going to be glued to the body. Using the double sided tape in the link, run it around the silver bezel for your new glass and set the new glass in place.
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Also a huge is to heat up the adhesive right before you place the digitizer back on. This will give you a MUCH stronger bond and will also help any uneven bumps if you have any.
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Once the screen is set, use your GOOD (alcohol based is best) glass cleaner to clean the underside of the glass and the LCD screen if it got dirty in the process. CLEAN IT WELL!
ANY STREAKS LEFT WILL SHOW BEHIND YOUR GLASS ONCE THE REPAIR IS DONE FORCING YOU TO TAKE IT APART AND CLEAN IT AGAIN!!!!!
like I had to.
Next, you need to make sure that the screen and the digitizer are properly spaced. Unless you get clean lift on the lcd when you originally pried it up. If they're too close you will get a swirly effect as you touch the screen. Touch your computer screen and you'll see what I mean.
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I always do 2 layers directly on top of each other - this works perfectly every time so you don't get the "water effect" from the glass touching the LCD, and make sure you go edge to edge so that dust and lint cannot enter the display afterwards.
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It won't hurt the screen if they touch, it's just friggin' annoying, and will cause you to take it back apart.
At this point, installation is in the reverse of the removal, noting one thing. When going to place the three connectors back in place, just line them up properly and lightly push on them to pop them in place.
CONGRATS!!!! YOU HAVE REPLACED YOUR ATRIX 2 TOUCHSCREEN!
Thanks to BRANDOGG for his professional tips and links! GIVE HIM SOME THANKS LOVE ON HIS POSTS BELOW!
Leave your comments and I will update the OP as necessary!
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Nice tutorial, I will use this if I break my screen.
Like I said, hopefully you'll never have to.
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nice, I will have to find this burried 10 pages deep, when I break mine. or maybe I could continue my streak of NEVER dropping it since I bought it in December. Seriously, never.
Good lord Kras, you might have just jinxed yourself.
And i'm hoping they'll sticky it so you don't have to find it that way lol.
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Very nicely put together. I hope to hell I'll never need it.
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Oh my. This is so absolutely amazing. I cannot thank you enough Fall of Enosis. Great job X 1000 on this!
Nicely put together, and congrats on a stickie! :good:
Hope I never need to refer to this as result of a buzzed walking into/out of a bar with subsequent droppage and "Oh, $#!T... My PHONE!"
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Good lord Kras, you might have just jinxed yourself.
And i'm hoping they'll sticky it so you don't have to find it that way lol.
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I guess I did. Dropped it today, but it didn't break. The screen is however slightly separated at the top. Do you think I can just put a little dab of super glue in there to get it back down?
Thanks for this guide. I broke mine yesterday. I bought the digitizer from there also today. Hopefully it isant too hard to break down and replace. Also would it be worth it to buy a whole new faceplate instead of taking the old digitizer out of this one?
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I guess I did. Dropped it today, but it didn't break. The screen is however slightly separated at the top. Do you think I can just put a little dab of super glue in there to get it back down?
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Yeah, I would imagine that would be ok man. I don't see an issue with it but like I said go EASY on the glue. Cause you might get too much in there and it will go over onto the LCD portion and you don't want that.
Zackhery said:
Thanks for this guide. I broke mine yesterday. I bought the digitizer from there also today. Hopefully it isant too hard to break down and replace. Also would it be worth it to buy a whole new faceplate instead of taking the old digitizer out of this one?
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Actually man, if you bought it from the Link I provided, your new screen comes with the digitzer also. So no worries there.
Congrats on your success. Tried this on my ATRIX 1, no success. Pissed me off.
I got mine replaced. They did jew me out my shipping tho. I paid for Priority and they sent with cheapest one.
I would suggest a pair of nice tweasers. To scrape the old glue off. Alot more effective then a razor blade.
Zackhery said:
I got mine replaced. They did jew me out my shipping tho. I paid for Priority and they sent with cheapest one.
I would suggest a pair of nice tweasers. To scrape the old glue off. Alot more effective then a razor blade.
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Aside from that did it work okay for ya?
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Aside from that did it work okay for ya?
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Yes it works just fine.
Thanks for sharing it. I really appreciate it.
Ok so i also need to replace the screen and lcd . my question is what kind of glue did u use? i was under the impression that it had to be an adhesive glue. thanks for the advise
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Ok so i also need to replace the screen and lcd . my question is what kind of glue did u use? i was under the impression that it had to be an adhesive glue. thanks for the advise
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I just bought $4 all purpose apoxy from radio shack to glue the digitizer back in and lcd will just sit in it. Lcd is glued in to start with but just but doesn't need to be.
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Use a heat gun and warm up the glass first, then take it out. If you do it right, all of the adhesive will come out with it. DO NOT use glue, that is just plain crazy. Buy a roll of 2mm wide double sided adhesive (that is made specifically for replacing digitizers, etc) and use that instead (costs about $4-5). Replacing the digitizer on an Atrix 2 is a very simple job, just spend the extra couple of bucks to do it the right way.
I never said I did this professionally. this is just how I did it. it has worked for me and for others as well! but thanks for your input! I will update the OP with your tips!
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[MOD} Convert your Grey and Blue One S To MAO Black the right way

Welcome to my guide on how to transform your one S
from that ugly grey and blue to a nice clean black and red finish
Things covered in this guide:
Where to get parts to do conversion
what parts to get to do a proper conversion
The steps I took to do the conversion
WARNING: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU DAMAGING YOUR PHONE WHILE TRYING TO DO THIS MOD. ANYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO DO TO YOUR PHONE IS JUST THAT...A CHOICE.. SO REMEMBER YOUR CHOICE IF YOU BREAK SOMETHING IT'S NOT MY FAULT
​I would like to preface this guide. When I bought my Tmobile One-S it was in hopes the One X+ would come to T-Mobile.. Since this is not happening I have decied to just do the full case conversion to the black and red edition with the hTC branded screen.
Where I started:
Found the parts I needed
Watched some youtube vids for taking the screen out of the unit
Had some experience working with small electronics / cell phone repair before
Things you will need for this project:
Torx T5 screwdriver
Small phillips Screwdriver
A plastic case pry tool (should be avail from the place that sells my parts)
Housing
Midframe < that part is KEY for not having to do HEAVY modification to the tmobile midframe
Camera ring (the red one)
speaker cover and Sim cover in black
Adhesive strips (SUPER IMPORTANT!!!!)
Where I got these parts:
I use this site because when I worked at a cell phone repair shop this was our parts provider and the seller is a great one to work with and is local to the USA (fast shipping times)
Midframe: https://www.gounlock.com/details.php?itemId=8252
Housing: https://www.gounlock.com/details.php?itemId=8625
Covers: https://www.gounlock.com/details.php?itemId=8649
Camera ring: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Main-Re...448213?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item484877ae15
Pry tool: https://www.gounlock.com/details.php?itemId=7250 < i orderd 4 of them cuz the prying tip breaks easily
HTC branded screen: https://www.gounlock.com/details.php?itemId=7975 < this is optional i just didnt want tmobile anywhere on my phone
Where to start:
I first started by watching a few youtube videos on how to replace my screen so i could get a feel for how hard it would be to actually dissasemble the phone. I will post a detailed picture guide once i shrink the pics and highlight the needed steps in them (dont be scared to use a hairdryer to get the glass of your screen nice and warm to the touch this will make the adhesive easier to seperate and lowers the risk of breaking your glass)
I started by popping off the sim cover and removing the 2x torx screws at the top of the frame and setting them aside.
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then i ran a pry tool to loosen up the adhesive on the bottom plate and it unclipped from the bottom of the frame
Then in the spot i had removed the bottom clip from i unscrewed the 2x phillips screws and set them aside. I then ran a pry tool around the casing between the grey and black to seperate the midframe from frame
once seperated I flipped the midframe over and heated up the battery slightly and then used my pry tool to pull the batter off the adhesive
Once that was done i then unscrewed the phillips screw to the top left of the battery and undid the ribbon connections for volume touch and lcd
i then heated up the screen and proceeded to run the pry tool around the edge of the screen VERY SLOWLY while keeping some heet on it
i set it aside
I then turned the frame to its side to remove the volume buttons i applied a small ammount of heat and used the pry tool to loosen the adhesive (WARNING) they didnt make this a sealed thing so be sure you actually get behind the volume buttons
I then moved down to where the "chin" was and used a VERY small flathead to pop it off and i tried to be gentle with it as much as possible
i then applied heat to the buttons at the bottom of the frame and used the pry tool to take them off their adhesive
just so you know these are attached to the board at the bottom
it took some wiggling but i got it through the slide hole for it..
i applied some heat to the board that had the vibrator on it and used the pry tool to take it off the frame
then i put the soft keys on the new midframe
then i put the volume buttson on and the lcd back on
the only problem i ran into is the blue plastic that covers the top of our board was approx 2mm too thick for the EU frame
so i had to hack it up pretty bad to get the cover to fit
i know shes dirty i got my hands all over while putting stuff back together
total time on project: 2 hours. Total invested by choice: 105$ ... had to buy my screen cuz i broke the old one: 168$
Enjoy guys and gals and Happy modding
-Zarboz
All of that adds up to around how much i paid for the phone itself
Kamilr97 said:
All of that adds up to around how much i paid for the phone itself
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Was thinking the exact same thing lol
Behold_this said:
Was thinking the exact same thing lol
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i bought mine unlocked and paid almost 600$
and spent 100$ in parts... nominal to me
you dont HAVE to get the hTC branded screen it was just a nice polish off feature for me
Thanks for the write up and links.
I think replacing the screen is a little overboard, but to each their own. If you don't replace the screen or the camera cover (strangely I prefer the blue), it saves you $167, so not a bad price to spruce this thing up a little. Too bad there's no way to stuff more memory into it while it's open.
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Thank you
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Can I change the screen to a hd one?
Sounds like an idea I could similarly apply....
I'm looking for the grey housing. Mine came with quite a buckle but I was too happy about getting my new device so I never sent it back.
Where can I buy it? Shipment to Germany should be possible.
Thanks in advance!
BUILDER88 said:
Sounds like an idea I could similarly apply....
I'm looking for the grey housing. Mine came with quite a buckle but I was too happy about getting my new device so I never sent it back.
Where can I buy it? Shipment to Germany should be possible.
Thanks in advance!
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Doesn't the EU body come in grey????? i could have sworn looking at parts i saw a EU grey *housing*
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Genuine-Housing-Repair-HTC/dp/B008MRADHI
or you could do white im sure
if you would like to purchase my old housing it is 3 weeks old and is in fair condition and i do paypal
The place i order form is USA based so shipping might take a while to germany. Might want to look for a hong kong based seller.
you SHOULD be able to do the same thing with the grey and blue housing
i am uploading 100+ pictures right now guys So standby
cool mod, comes out to less than $60 if people dont replace their screen which i dont recommend from sky star trader. i work at a cell phone repair shop and sky star trader by far has given us the highest amount of bad digitizers so we completely stopped using them. one time we even ordered a digitizer for a rezound and the light and proximity sensor ports were so tinted the phone kept thinking it was next to an ear. theyre just poorly made and should be avoided
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cool mod, comes out to less than $60 if people dont replace their screen which i dont recommend from sky star trader. i work at a cell phone repair shop and sky star trader by far has given us the highest amount of bad digitizers so we completely stopped using them. one time we even ordered a digitizer for a rezound and the light and proximity sensor ports were so tinted the phone kept thinking it was next to an ear. theyre just poorly made and should be avoided
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I ordered mine from amazon to be honest for that reason
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Do you have any problems with reception? The T-mobile version has plastic on the bottom for the radio but the EU one doesn't. Does it affect anything?
Kamilr97 said:
Do you have any problems with reception? The T-mobile version has plastic on the bottom for the radio but the EU one doesn't. Does it affect anything?
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That piece is just plastic the antenna runs from the main board down the right side of the frame to the bottom board
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See nothin there
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This black wire is the antenna
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See nothin there
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Instead of tearing apart the phone to get to this piece would I be able to trim up the plastic piece to use black UK body on the phone?
newbieandroid said:
Instead of tearing apart the phone to get to this piece would I be able to trim up the plastic piece to use black UK body on the phone?
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no the top of the midframe will not seat right in the EU body
Im interested what quality is the new black body. Can you post some pictures of the top, the usb port and the beats audio logo?
jandari said:
Im interested what quality is the new black body. Can you post some pictures of the top, the usb port and the beats audio logo?
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Sure ill link some high res versions
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Replacement Screen

Has anybody replaced the screen on this device? I'm looking for a replacement.
Found this:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/152201847036
gmillz said:
Has anybody replaced the screen on this device? I'm looking for a replacement.
Found this:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/152201847036
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Just curious why you chose the one for 80 when there are ones for 59 to 69?
I have gotten this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorola-Mo...e174428&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=152201847036 or this one https://www.fixez.com/store/motorola/motorola-moto-x-pure-edition with no problems
Because the others I looked at did not have speaker grills.
Also saw this a lot of the repair videos use: http://www.repairsuniverse.com/moto...reLCDframeblk&utm_campaign=JerryRigEverything
Keep us updated!
Replaced screen on my nexus 6, should be similar. Not that difficult.
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I'm thinking to change mine from service center because of yellow tint.
I've replaced the screen twice ,added pogo pins to the second sim slot which I broke out (its just glued in) turning my xt1575 into a xt1572 using chinese dual sim software (works better than FI) I like using Verizon and Tmobile at the same time in the US, I literally have service everywhere, I';m only using a Verizon Tablet Sim cause I have many other SIP numbers linked in. I live in Colorado and need a **** load of numbers.
Its really easy to change the screen, I strongly suggest spending a few extra bucks and get one thats already on its frame or GOOD LUCK GETTTING THE OLD ONE ON THE NEW FRAME, YOU JUST WASTED BUCKS IT IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE. YOU MUST GET THE VERSION WITH THE FRAME OR YOu will be attempting to remove your old frame, clean it, and pray you line everytrhing up right (and it takes about 5 hours longer with a heat gun) I can change a screen with frame (the speaker grills pop off and pop onto the new one you must pull out straight and push in dead straight. I promise this, did it twice.
The hardest thing is getting all the little screws back in without torquing the screen and making little light colored spots, took me many hours the first time of adjustment to get it right and it didn't last.
Itrs been a pretty good phone but it is no droid x. its chinese as hell. I dropped a sledgehammer on my droid x., tore out half the aluminum frame but left Gorilla Glass one perfect (Gorilla Glass has only gotten ****tier) plus a rounded screen is downright stupid. I dropeed it on a empty pill bottle one time, another time it was just broken creen facing in in my pocket. It is no American phone, its Legend all the way.
Still good phone, still extrodinarily hackable if you get the **** away from android its basically a shark running debian with the antennas I've soldered onto it now running my scanners. Check previous posts to se where I soldered, I gained (lost) 10 points rssi on 2.4 all around bluetooth goes forever and 5G well, its fast. I noticed having more bluetooths and wifis in range made my location accuracy jump. I don't like that/.
I've changed the screen also after dropping it.
And I would also suggest to get the version with the frame.
I have 2 little spots on the left upper side and right bottom side but they aren't anoying.
I was happy that my screen was working.
How do you know if the screen has the frame? I'm looking at this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-LCD-d...sh=item2ca7621020:g:z3AAAOSwCypWnjQc#shpCntId. @JeffreyM @NixonP
Same here, i ordered one with the frame, but i still want to know..... i ordered btw this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252361820613
And opening the phone was a peace of cake, only you need to look you really got all the screws out. i almost forgot the one that was mounted on the Motherboard.
Also popping out the speaker grills is easy peasy work.
I'm looking for one from EU so I avoid paying import taxes but I think I'll have to order one from outside of EU. BTW do you notice any difference in the display quality?
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How do you know if the screen has the frame? I'm looking at this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-LCD-d...sh=item2ca7621020:g:z3AAAOSwCypWnjQc#shpCntId. @JeffreyM @NixonP
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http://www.etradesupply.com/motorola-moto-x-style-lcd-screen-assembly-with-front-housing-black.html
Very fast shipping. 1 week from China to Europe.
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How do you know if the screen has the frame? I'm looking at this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-LCD-d...sh=item2ca7621020:g:z3AAAOSwCypWnjQc#shpCntId. @JeffreyM @NixonP
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I do not believe that the one that you are showing the link to has the frame, it doesn't say it has the frame in the description and if you look at the picture and look at the top of the screen where the speaker grill would go, if it had the frame you would not be able to see through to the white background, it would have the black frame to hold the speaker grill and you would not see the white background.
Tight Screws -> Light Bleed
NixonP said:
The hardest thing is getting all the little screws back in without torquing the screen and making little light colored spots, took me many hours the first time of adjustment to get it right and it didn't last.
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Did you ever figure out a reliable trick for this? My kid cracked my screen this week, so I picked up the replacement screen/digitizer/frame from fixez.com. It swapped out easy enough, but the only way I can get the light bleed to go away is to back the nearby screws off to the point where I can easily get my fingernail in the gap between the front and middle pieces of the frame (i.e. a no-go).
I've got an email out to fixez.com to get their input. It seems to me that you should be able to put the screws in till they're tight (not wrenching them down, but snug) without worrying about distorting the screen.
Hey I ordered the following from gadget fix and replaced it myself.
Item name:Motorola Moto X Pure Edition XT1575 LCD Screen + Touch Screen Digitizer + Frame
Item number:231820642901
Earlier I had ordered the one without frame but had to return it because it was impossible to separate our the frame from old screen and attach it to the new screen
I ordered the screen from China over eBay and replaced it today. The process isn't so hard but the screen is damaged (as shown in the picture).
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The process isn't so hard but the screen is damaged (as shown in the picture)
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I had a similar issue with my replacement screen and it turned out that the screws were too tight
After loosing them a little the bright spot went away. I will try that before ordering a second screen
As a new user, what all do I need to worry about with this phone's display? Are there very common issues where I'm likely going to need to replace this screen? I'm not looking to keep this phone for longer than a year. It's just serving as my daily driver until the next Samsung Note device is released (and proven not to blow up). Thanks.
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As a new user, what all do I need to worry about with this phone's display? Are there very common issues where I'm likely going to need to replace this screen? I'm not looking to keep this phone for longer than a year. It's just serving as my daily driver until the next Samsung Note device is released (and proven not to blow up). Thanks.
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Keep a good case on it and try not to drop it or bang the screen too much. The screen is more susceptible to cracking from drops due to the curvature and prominence of the glass from the frame. A face down or side drop means the glass is more likely to take the impact directly vs another phone in which the screen is flush with the frame. As far as defective screens (I.e. color or pixel issues) I don't think it is any more prominent than any other brand. However, of you have have submitted for and received an unlock code for your bootloader, your warranty is void, and Motorola will most likely deny any warranty claim.
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Keep a good case on it and try not to drop it or bang the screen too much. The screen is more susceptible to cracking from drops due to the curvature and prominence of the glass from the frame. A face down or side drop means the glass is more likely to take the impact directly vs another phone in which the screen is flush with the frame. As far as defective screens (I.e. color or pixel issues) I don't think it is any more prominent than any other brand. However, of you have have submitted for and received an unlock code for your bootloader, your warranty is void, and Motorola will most likely deny any warranty claim.
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