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Prevent Display getting dark while phoning

Hello guys.
First of all i want to thank xda - developers for this great forum.
Its the best one ive founded and i am very glad to use it.
I have a modified milestone xt 720 with custom firmware v4 kahlpower.
I also use setcpu to increase battery lifetime.
I try to prevent wasting ressources so i created a profile for setcpu:
If my display screen is off, my cpu will run with 125 Mhz min and 250 Mhz max conversative.
If the screen is on my cpu has 550 Mhz min and 850 Mhz max. conversative.
So when i am phoning my milestone ist very slow , because he jumps from 125 Mhz
to 550 Mhz and the other way round due to the photosensor ( lichtsensor).
I searched various of topics including this issue but did never find a solution ..
How can I disable the photosensor or prevent my phone from getting dark while telephoning ?
Thanks
Trapple

Hi go to settings and click inti display their are different time setting for your light to stay on.
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There are no settings
i want my display while I am telephoning enabled ( on)
the sensor is the issue , which sets my display on and off

I think there are proximity sensor settings in the build.prop but I've never tried changing them.

if display goes on i think the phone would get hot and power consumption will up.
btw your face would feel hot isnt it if the display not getting dark while you are on the phone..
use speaker phone or a bluetooth headset if you still want it

3rdstring said:
I think there are proximity sensor settings in the build.prop but I've never tried changing them.
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is there an aplikation to open this data ?
maybe you got a link for a tutorial or s.th. like that ?

ndempist said:
if display goes on i think the phone would get hot and power consumption will up.
btw your face would feel hot isnt it if the display not getting dark while you are on the phone..
use speaker phone or a bluetooth headset if you still want it
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i dont want to use them , its to bad to handle xD
I think there must be another solution

[Q] Touch-less Controls?

I'm confused by this new feature that is being touted. I keep seeing conflicting reports:
Some claim that the "Okay Google" command works from the home screen (meaning the device must be on and unlocked)
Some claim that the "Okay Google" command works exactly how it does on the Moto X (meaning the phrase will wake the phone from sleep)
It would seem like a pretty useless feature to have if it only activates once the device is unlocked. And even if it is the other way, will this work on any Kit Kat device or just ones with a special low powered processor?

kyleallen5000 said:
I'm confused by this new feature that is being touted. I keep seeing conflicting reports:
Some claim that the "Okay Google" command works from the home screen (meaning the device must be on and unlocked)
Some claim that the "Okay Google" command works exactly how it does on the Moto X (meaning the phrase will wake the phone from sleep)
It would seem like a pretty useless feature to have if it only activates once the device is unlocked. And even if it is the other way, will this work on any Kit Kat device or just ones with a special low powered processor?
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From what I understood,it only works when screen is on.
If it was meant to work exactly how it does on the Moto X, there would have been an altered version of the Snapdragon ( e.g. X8 ) because otherwise this is a major battery consumer. The always-on ability seems to be reserved for the Moto.
I think currently only N5 supports this and N4 support will come later, but I am not sure about that.

https://plus.google.com/106533248943352121512/posts/GANAWjSGM32
Looks like yes.

Eluveitie said:
From what I understood,it only works when screen is on.
If it was meant to work exactly how it does on the Moto X, there would have been an altered version of the Snapdragon ( e.g. X8 ) because otherwise this is a major battery consumer. The always-on ability seems to be reserved for the Moto.
I think currently only N5 supports this and N4 support will come later, but I am not sure about that.
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i was under the impression that the snapdragon 800 chip was designed specifically with an 'always listening' feature. that one of the 4 cores is kept at low power specifically for this always listening feature

yahoowizard said:
https://plus.google.com/106533248943352121512/posts/GANAWjSGM32
Looks like yes.
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--ish. The screen has to be on in order for it to listen. Without security (a PIN or Pattern, etc) it'll listen at the lock screen.

I use the slide unlock screen, so yes for me. No for those who use a pattern or PIN lock.

On one of the KitKat (official) pages it mentions that voice actions work on the homescreen and when in the Google Now app. The google search widget says in it "Say 'OK Google" and so does the Google Now app. So I am fairly sure it won't be included.
That being said, the CPU should be able to use the always listening feature. I really hope some devs are out their porting it right now. I have a $5 google play voucher from eating a kitkat to spend which I am willing to buy a donation app that provides always listening functionality.

This is exactly how it works on the G2. Screen has to be on for it to work.

Enddo said:
i was under the impression that the snapdragon 800 chip was designed specifically with an 'always listening' feature. that one of the 4 cores is kept at low power specifically for this always listening feature
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Yea, but theres no low power dedicated core for OFF screen listening.

Eluveitie said:
Yea, but theres no low power dedicated core for OFF screen listening.
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you are right. so far it seems to only be on the home screen and in the google now page

Actually, the Snapdragon 800 processor does support 'always listening' and has a dedicated chip for it. And according to this post by "The Verge" after an interview with one of Google execs, it looks like the 'always listening' feature will be added with future updates, or that's at least the impression he gives off when reading this article. Looks as if updates will be coming mid-Novemeber.
Ugh, I can't post the link to the page because I don't have '10 posts" yet.
after typing theverge.com/ -- follow it by typing in this:
2013/10/31/5051458/android-kit-kat-bring-big-updates-to-google-now-and-speech-recognition

how much battery does "Hotword detection" truly consum?

not looking for an accurate measure here - just experiences from people doing trial and error
the way i get it, if Hotword detection is on, the phone ALWAYS listens incase you say a hot-word, as if the microphone is always on and a software to detect the words is always on as well
my quesition is, is this REALLY a huge battery drain as it sounds? or am i just being silly
i would prefer to keep it on but not at the cost of major battery usage

Caniv said:
not looking for an accurate measure here - just experiences from people doing trial and error
the way i get it, if Hotword detection is on, the phone ALWAYS listens incase you say a hot-word, as if the microphone is always on and a software to detect the words is always on as well
my quesition is, is this REALLY a huge battery drain as it sounds? or am i just being silly
i would prefer to keep it on but not at the cost of major battery usage
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Firstly it only works from the homescreen so it's not always on. Secondly the snapdragon 800 has a low power feature dedicated to things like these. It's very similar to the dedicated cores in the X8 in the motorola x.
So in short, it uses a negligible amount of battery especially compared to something like the screen.

DevourDarkness said:
Firstly it only works from the homescreen so it's not always on. Secondly the snapdragon 800 has a low power feature dedicated to things like these. It's very similar to the dedicated cores in the X8 in the motorola x.
So in short, it uses a negligible amount of battery especially compared to something like the screen.
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thanks buddy
kind of a disappointment it only works in home screen, no way to tweak and make it work when screen is off?

Caniv said:
thanks buddy
kind of a disappointment it only works in home screen, no way to tweak and make it work when screen is off?
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Unfortunately not yet. That's something the moto x has though so the devs are looking into porting the software over because the hardware capability is there already.

Caniv said:
thanks buddy
kind of a disappointment it only works in home screen, no way to tweak and make it work when screen is off?
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If you're into voice commands, check out utter!.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Moto Display - Not impressed

Firstly, let me preface this by saying I've never owned a Moto X phone before, so some of what I'm about to say may not be specific to the Moto X Play's implementation of Moto Display.
When I got my Moto X Play, I was excited to start using the Moto Display feature for displaying notifications. I know a lot of people really like it. Unfortunately, based on what I see on the Play, I can't see me using it regularly.
- The phone is "too" sensitive to motion when figuring out when to trigger Moto Display. Often times, any slight movement will activate it (such as when sitting on the armrest of my living room recliner. Now, if it did this only when notifications were present, I could tolerate it. Otherwise, the screen constantly wakes up briefly for no reason. Obviously, they had to make some concession here as there's no infrared sensors that wold sense a hand wave over the screen to wake it, but this approach just leads to a lot of false activations.
- The screen hardly stays lit up enough to do anything half the time when you DO pick up the phone. Pick up the phone, catch whether the icon shown is just the lock or an actual notification icon, then quickly swipe up before the screen turns off. Now, obviously it may have always been like this, but I have a feeling they may have shortened the screen on time to help compensate for the fact that this phone uses an LCD instead of AMOLED display.
Either way, the combination of both of these things has not led to a good experience for me.

I agree. Moto Display is a great concept but it really needs a few customization options:
a toggle option to have it only turn on the display when there are notifications
an option to set how long it wakes the screen when you move the phone
an option to change the sensitivity (it's just way too sensitive as it is)

Try changing from Moto Display to Ambient Display, it's a variation that I find works better for me YMMV.

Sevael said:
I agree. Moto Display is a great concept but it really needs a few customization options:
a toggle option to have it only turn on the display when there are notifications
an option to set how long it wakes the screen when you move the phone
an option to change the sensitivity (it's just way too sensitive as it is)
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There should be an option for the display to turn on when you reach for your phone in the Moto app under actions
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atistang said:
There should be an option for the display to turn on when you reach for your phone in the Moto app under actions
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The reason that isn't there is because this phone doesn't have the necessary sensor to recognize your hand above the screen.
It's unfortunate but I imagine it was omitted to keep the cost of the phone down.

It's funny, because coming from a Moto X (2013), I feel like the X Play is actually less sensitive! When I'm in the subway or the bus, I usually only to slightly raise it toward me to trigger it. Now I have to put it facedown then face up. I never used the power button on my good ol' 2013, so I actually liked that much sensitivity. I understand the IPS display couldn't handle it without draining the battery - though the X Battery could probably still have one good day of use, though. I'm actually annoyed when it's triggered at night, because instead of only seing the time and a lock, you see the time, a lock and A SUPER UGLY BLACK SCREEN whereas the 2013 screen was virtually invisible in the dark.
The 2013 Moto Display experience was better than the 2015 experience. I'm sad.
One thing I like is that you can pause music and skip tracks via the Moto Display though, whereas you could only open the app on the 2013.

the phone activating itself its the ''breathing'' feature so you can see the time. try android 5 ambient display.

Ok Google unlocking phone.

I am pleasantly surprised to find out that Ok Google will wake up and unlock the Pixel 2. Is this one of the few phones now that this is possible? I know from an awake phone it's possible but it works on my Pixel 2 unawake ?

ghettopops said:
I am pleasantly surprised to find out that Ok Google will wake up and unlock the Pixel 2. Is this one of the few phones now that this is possible? I know from an awake phone it's possible but it works on my Pixel 2 unawake ?
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I haven't understood the second question.
But you can wake up and unlock your phone in many old devices like the original Moto X (2013) the Nexus 5X and 6P (2015) and some Samsung Galaxies and Motorolas. It doesn't matter for how many hours they were resting with the screen off.
Not all the manufacturers enable an always listening feature in their phones hardware and also have a Google app with the OK Google always on option.
(Example: my ex Z5 Compact didn't have this feature).
So phones must have activated the Snapdragon voice activation and prepare the Google app to enable this feature or something like that.
Battery life is practically not impacted by this feature in general. But of course each feature pulls some of it.
Active Display (Ambient Display Always On) and Always Listening (Say "Ok Google" at any time) are essentials features to me that work when the phone is resting in deep sleep.
And they both appeared with the original Moto X by Motorola/Google as far as I remember. (Best ergonomic phone ever as well)
Sent from my Pixel 2

I thought the Nexus had to be charging for that. I know the Moto did.

In Nexus 5 this was not supported. But in 5X and 6P it was working and perfectly. I've been using this function since the 5X. I always use this for create reminders or set timers for the pasta cooking time etc.
I don't know about the Nexus 6
Now in the Pixel 2 I'm suffering sometimes a PIN request I don't know why. Might be for more security.
Sent from my Pixel 2

when you say it will "wake up and unlock" you're referring to the phone being locked with pin / pattern / etc. and the screen is off, correct?
yes, most phones that i'm aware of will not do this unless the phone is plugged in or the screen is on.
however, some other phones do have other options e.g. the samsung phones can "wake up and unlock" to s-voice or bixby and once unlocked you can say "ok google".