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Has any brave soul tried this feature? If so give us your experience!
Personally I have not, knowing my luck my device would be the one with faulty ports/leaks ?
Some people have tried it and damaged their phone. Others have been fine. The phone is water resistant not waterproof so I would recommend against dipping it in water.
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I personally placed my wife's S7 Edge screen under a running tap for a few seconds. Phone still works fine. Having said that the iPhone 6S has some great water resistant features and it doesn't even have an IP rating. Yet my old iPhone 5s died after siting in a little puddle of water on the bathroom basin bench, which was barely as deep as the back cover. At least with some certified proof of water resistance protection on the S7's, I won't be taking mine swimming or showering, but its surely great to know that it could
handle some very common water contact.
If it spoils easily regardlessof having water resistance why does samsung make all these ads with lil john dunking his phone in the aquarium and whatnot. Theyre tempting us to do so and if the phone is broken they should never void the warranty as long as it adheres to the phone being not deeper than 1.5 meters for not longer than 30 mins
As above, i've run mine under the tap a few times and it's been fine. I've never submerged it though, I don't dare yet. I also don't have a need to, so don't anticipate I will anytime soon.
I finally had it tested and it was an accidental situation which makes it seem useful and not just intentionally testing it for the sake of it. We left my wife's S7 on the coffee table and there was a cup of water on there. We came back and the water got knocked over, the phone was kind of in a puddle of it. I was actually excited to test it, but pissed that my cat has been ****ing with filled cups of water lately.
Tried dipping it while i was in the gym pool lol charged it after 2 hrs moisture detected, wiped the inside with some tissue all good ?
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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that's all true but they get you with the "water pressure" crap. running it under a slowly pouring tap should be fine, but running it under heavy/fast flowing water flowing from the tap could be a problem, also the entire submersion thing, drop it in slow it should be fine, throw it in water and it could cause issues.
The IP68 rating is simply a bonus for me. I will treat it no differently than any other phone but it's good to know that, should an accident occur, and it ends up in the sink or something similar, it should be alright. Being able to use it in the rain is quite nice too. However, people who put their new phone in a bowl of water the day they get it to prove some sort of point deserve any issues they end up with.
1.5m 30mins. With that rating i would say it's safe to bring it with you when you swim(not dive), and would not recommend to bring it to snorkel. I saw someone dropped their phone to a 40 feet river.. that for sure are gonna break the phone..
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BTW, make sure you never subject it to soapy water. Its water resistance relies on the surface tension of the water. Soap lowers water's surface tension, allowing the water to flow into places it normally wouldn't, as this guy found out the hard way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/water-damage-story-t3337463
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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doing the same as you better to test the warranty while its still hot
it froze on me on 2nd shower, high pressure test video recording but im sure it was the fact that ive got like 5% space left on the memory.
I also run it under cold fast water if it heats up, i do block the charge port, then its cooled down enough for some day charging...
its quite a well built phone and I would be shocked if it does get water damage, but im worried, samy warranty is good service.
I couldn't resist testing this out. After all, if it's not working as advertised I'd want a replacement. So I filled up the sink and then carefully placed the phone at the bottom. The screen doesn't work while under water but once I took it out everything was back to normal. Awesome feature!
I don't need the water resistance features of the phone, but I do believe that if it's water resistant then it's less likely for moisture and corrosion to hamper with buttons, contacts and other internals. I had 3-4 phones with unresponsive power buttons over time, so if Samsung used good, oxidation-resistant materials for water resistance purposes then it will probably be beneficial for overall mechanical health of the phone as well.
Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
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Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
Ontopic: I tested my phone a lot. When I first got it I washed it with clean water everyday. I also washed it with soap a few times, I never had any problems.
After I received my dbrand skin I also washed it a couple of times, once with soap as well, to make sure the skin is water resistant (it is).
Now that the "new toy" syndrome has passed, I use my phone normally, but if someone asked me to take a selfie while the phone is underwater, I would do it
Dropped my phone in the bath and continued to leave it in there to show it off to the mrs as her iphone can't do it. Screen came out working fine including buttons, however the speaker was very distorted which kinda made me panic but it dried out overnight and all was well in the morning.
Needless to say I never lost my nerve round my partner and kept echoing your iPhone can't do that....
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
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Haha, well since it was in my hand it's not like it got very wet. With the water resistance, I really didn't care. Gave me my first opportunity to test it out.
My son wanted to get a video underwater at the pool last weekend.
https://youtu.be/3UL4qcH7rJs
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Tell your tale!!
I personally wouldn't dare to do it. Knowing my luck, I'll probably have a faulty device lolol
Took the s8+ to the pool several times over the week. Was fine. Just need to wait for charging port to dry; but the s8 gives warning sign if you plug your phone with a wet port. No worries at all.
Washed mine under the tap , delicate flow, after eating greasy food.
Haven't dared since the day my Sony Xperia Z3 went in the bath with its IP68 rating and I was greeted with bubbles as the phone filled up!
I got a replacement but still, twitchy bum time
Had a bucket of water poured on mine by a young family member. It was in an otterbox defender and didn't have any issues at all.
I always take my S8+ with me, also under water.
I don't know why, but I feel much safer than with my old S7 edge.
Charging... I always user wireless charge at work and in my car, so my S8 is always full at home and I never need an cable .
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I always take my S8+ with me, also under water.
I don't know why, but I feel much safer than with my old S7 edge.
Charging... I always user wireless charge at work and in my car, so my S8 is always full at home and I never need an cable .
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Is that in fresh water? Or salt water? I've heard salt water is no good to any of the water resistant devices. I just ordered my device so I'm doing some preliminary learning
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Is that in fresh water? Or salt water? I've heard salt water is no good to any of the water resistant devices. I just ordered my device so I'm doing some preliminary learning
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It would have to be freshwater purely based off the fact tadpoles cannot survive in saltwater. Chlorinated or salt water can attack and erode the rubber gaskets and seals that protect your device from water. Overtime these could weaken, leaving your phone exposed to damage from moisture, not to mention salt water is a good conductor of electricity.
Here in Australia a screen replacement for this device is $700AUD so I've just got mine in a Lifeproof case regardless of any IP ratings.
Just in case anyone is wondering like I was, I cannot recommend the Lifeproof FRE for Galaxy S8 as there's such a big gap between the front plastic screen cover and the actual LCD itself. I basically have to hammer the screen to type and it makes these "clacking noises" as the screen comes in contact with the plastic.
ScoOby-Do0 said:
It would have to be freshwater purely based off the fact tadpoles cannot survive in saltwater. Chlorinated or salt water can attack and erode the rubber gaskets and seals that protect your device from water. Overtime these could weaken, leaving your phone exposed to damage from moisture, not to mention salt water is a good conductor of electricity.
Here in Australia a screen replacement for this device is $700AUD so I've just got mine in a Lifeproof case regardless of any IP ratings.
Just in case anyone is wondering like I was, I cannot recommend the Lifeproof FRE for Galaxy S8 as there's such a big gap between the front plastic screen cover and the actual LCD itself. I basically have to hammer the screen to type and it makes these "clacking noises" as the screen comes in contact with the plastic.
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Since you're in Australia... Take the case to the place of purchase and ask for a full refund. According to Consumer Affairs, if a product does not work as advertised you're entitled for a replacement or a refund.
Lifeproof cases are very expensive (over $AU100). You expect them to be perfect at that price!
Well I had my first experience
Spilt warm coffee on my phone.
Ran to the hotel sink and washed off the phone.
Blow dried it to get rid of the moisture in the speaker grill and charging port. Good as new!!
Cheap waterproof case...
Last week I decided to take an image under water (fresh). Put her in at least three different times. Got a notification saying there was water detected in the charging port and to make sure it is dry before using. Today, my s8 is still working like new. Here's the image I got (unedited)!
Is this properly waterproof?
Has anyone tried?
I don't trust mine for some reason....
kolembo said:
Is this properly waterproof?
Has anyone tried?
I don't trust mine for some reason....
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I tried YouTube in the shower to play some music. It starts doing all sort of things as it recognized water drops as touch actions on the screen. The moment the water hits the speakers it starts going dodgy. A good wipe later and the phone works perfectly. Although I must admit I started panicking a bit when I started hearing the distortions from the speakers.
I have not emerged it fully in water so that's all I've got for now. But I got great fate in it. I work on a boat in shallow waters so no doubt it will fall in one day and I'm going to go fishing for it. I will come with updates when it does happen
@yolinkin
ha!
Well done. Yeah, steam in my bath gets the screen acting funny.
I just need to know that it will survive an accidental dunking!
Onward.
kolembo said:
@yolinkin
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Well done. Yeah, steam in my bath gets the screen acting funny.
I just need to know that it will survive an accidental dunking!
Onward.
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I already tried twice to use it underwater on purpose. Both times it got damaged. The HTC support didnt even knew it should be waterproof, so I got both times a new one from Vodafone Germany. If it happens a third time, I'll choose another phone, because it was the additional reason for me to buy it. Shame on HTC..
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I already tried twice to use it underwater on purpose. Both times it got damaged. The HTC support didnt even knew it should be waterproof, so I got both times a new one from Vodafone Germany. If it happens a third time, I'll choose another phone, because it was the additional reason for me to buy it. Shame on HTC..
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They don't know it should be water proof, because it isn't. It's advertised as water/dust resistant. 2 different things.
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I already tried twice to use it underwater on purpose. Both times it got damaged. The HTC support didnt even knew it should be waterproof, so I got both times a new one from Vodafone Germany. If it happens a third time, I'll choose another phone, because it was the additional reason for me to buy it. Shame on HTC..
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Can you elaborate what you tried?
Don't understand why people want to drown their phones underwater. I do believe HTC's intention for making it water resistant was for more device protection, not for snapchat scuba diving Lmao. Although, it did seem they were leading us to believe that we could take under water pics with the squeeze feature. They dropped the ball on that one.
Mine fell into sea water
It never turned on
and he is dead
gsm0607455890 said:
Mine fell into sea water
It never turned on
and he is dead
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Probably due to the salt in sea water. When it dries it crystallises. If any got in, it will affect the internal components.
Also check HTC website. It states clearly that it should only be resistant against still fresh/Tap water. Info attached.
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Can you elaborate what you tried?
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The first time I had it 20cm under water for 10s. Some bubbles left from the microphone down below. This time I#d wouldnt even survived a rondom accident with water.
The second time I tried it in my bathtub for around 5 minutes to test if pics or vids would work. It did a bit. Controlling the phone while changing from water to air or the other direction is impossible, because it unterstands waterdrpos as input. so if u dive into water, it automatically pushes both buttons.
Controlling it fully under water work, but u dont really see what u do.
The thing is, if HTC says it is IP 67, it also should be it. So I will also try it with ne next changed one. When something happens in the future, I really want it to be waterproof.
I think there is a general misconception of the official IP67 rating..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73584248&postcount=29
Just check there, also HTC claim, quite correctly it should resist water, but (like the official IP67 rating claims) you shouldn't submerge your device intentionally.
Trust me on this, I'm an engineer, IP67 does not mean you can happily use your device underwater, it should just survive a short trip into water (ie accidents) and you should be able to use it in rain etc.
I grew up knowing that electronic devices and water do not mix. I have owned almost all of the flagships without ever worrying about waterproofing. I never have water issues with my device cause I don't think it's a good idea to put it in water. This issue is way overblown.
I think this water resistance fad needs to die. I'd rather have removable battery than this 30 minute water resistance bs.
Btw, it's not waterproof that would imply it's resistant to water indefinitely these phones are simply water resistant.
Further there have been situations where phones that have been exposed to water won't charge because a sensor thinks the charge port is wet (on the s8 anyway).
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I think there is a general misconception of the official IP67 rating..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73584248&postcount=29
Just check there, also HTC claim, quite correctly it should resist water, but (like the official IP67 rating claims) you shouldn't submerge your device intentionally.
Trust me on this, I'm an engineer, IP67 does not mean you can happily use your device underwater, it should just survive a short trip into water (ie accidents) and you should be able to use it in rain etc.
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Agreed. I'm an engineer as well, and "water resistance" definitely refers to "water", like tap water or mineral water. It won't resist to sea water, orange juice, coca cola, high temperature bath/shower/SPA, and the steam.
And for some who put their phones into the refrigerator in summer and when phone gets hot, the water comes from the air inside...won't resist to that either.
Definitely not water proof
Hi there
The U11 is definitely not water proof. In the brief desctiption (at least in Switzerland, guess it's the same in "any" german description) it is clearly stated "Wasserdicht" (= water proof). Today the device fell into sea water, maybe 1 m and stayed for about 30 seconds.
After some hours I opened he sim tray and the white spot (liquid damage indicator (LDI)appeared red. So water definitely penetrated the device. Guess it doesn't matter wether it's sea or other water - but the damages inside are certainly higher with sea water due to the salt.
I could turn on the device and it felt into a kind of boot loop. Starting up in download mode worked. It is now in a rice bath and I am waiting now a few hours.
Hope I don't have to buy a new device...
And I will have to adjust my signature...
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Hi there
The U11 is definitely not water proof. In the brief desctiption (at least in Switzerland, guess it's the same in "any" german description) it is clearly stated "Wasserdicht" (= water proof). Today the device fell into sea water, maybe 1 m and stayed for about 30 seconds.
After some hours I opened he sim tray and the white spot (liquid damage indicator (LDI)appeared red. So water definitely penetrated the device. Guess it doesn't matter wether it's sea or other water - but the damages inside are certainly higher with sea water due to the salt.
I could turn on the device and it felt into a kind of boot loop. Starting up in download mode worked. It is now in a rice bath and I am waiting now a few hours.
Hope I don't have to buy a new device...
And I will have to adjust my signature...
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Contact support and play dumb and tell them it fell into the sink or toilet bowl.
Do not tell them it fell into salt water (as it is not rated to withstand salt water) and keep your fingers crossed
konsti23 said:
Hi there
The U11 is definitely not water proof. In the brief desctiption (at least in Switzerland, guess it's the same in "any" german description) it is clearly stated "Wasserdicht" (= water proof). Today the device fell into sea water, maybe 1 m and stayed for about 30 seconds.
After some hours I opened he sim tray and the white spot (liquid damage indicator (LDI)appeared red. So water definitely penetrated the device. Guess it doesn't matter wether it's sea or other water - but the damages inside are certainly higher with sea water due to the salt.
I could turn on the device and it felt into a kind of boot loop. Starting up in download mode worked. It is now in a rice bath and I am waiting now a few hours.
Hope I don't have to buy a new device...
And I will have to adjust my signature...
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Salt water is no friend to any waterproof device. I have used multiple times my S7 and U11 in salt water and they are perfectly fine as long you clean them quickly with "sweat" water.
My balls are not big enough to try submerging it. As long it resist a little sweat and the occasional rain I'm happy with it.
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Has anyone tried?
I don't trust mine for some reason....
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I took mine to a water park for a day, only issue I had was audio distortion for a few hours while the speakers dried out.
Water proof - guarantee case - update
Hi all
Small update regarding the "water proof" case. Well, it shows up that the thing is getting very complicate. I explain how the reparation chain is organized in Switzerland:
- Device is sold in Electronic Shop (the name is not important)
- In case of reparation: Drop the device with Electronic Shop
- Electronic shop sends device to a reparation center in Switzerand which repairs normally devices (any brands). At this repair center, HTC devices are NOT repaired, they are sent to Czech Republic (or Poland - I don't remember) for reparation.
- And then the whole chain is going back to the Electronic shop
Now, I have received an invoice for the reparation because of the water damage. After that I have contacted the reparation center Switzerland (which explained that they don't repair HTC devices) and after that the reparation center abroad. They now play the game telling me "Yes, your device has a water damage". When I reply that the HTC U11 is supposed NOT to have water damages (according to the specs) I get the reply "yes, we understand that you are angry, but in case of water damages we can't do anything. And your device has a water damage".
Next reply: Reparation center in Switzerland says "Please refer to Reparation Center abroad". Reparation Center abroad says "Please see this case with reparation center in Switzerland". So nobody is taking it's responsibilities.
I also get the statement from the reparation center abroad that every device is tested for water proof before they are sold. And this would also be a reason that my device was not water proof on another spot. YES SURE!
I am really pxxxed off. This is the first time in 10 years that I have a reparation in guarantee. If HTC is not willing to repair my device as guarantee case then I am done with them. I HOPE HTC READS THIS.
Thanks for reading
The OnePlus 6 is an amazing phone. I recently dunked it in water to test out its water resistance. This video is an update to let you guys know what still works and what doesn't! Also, please don't drop your OnePlus 6 in water. It's not advertised as being water resistant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVZ3y8j-pT4
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The OnePlus 6 is an amazing phone. I recently dunked it in water to test out its water resistance. This video is an update to let you guys know what still works and what doesn't! Also, please don't drop your OnePlus 6 in water. It's not advertised as being water resistant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVZ3y8j-pT4
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Good Video, and very informative. Tbf, OnePlus always said it'll be ok in a bit of rain, and maybe a bit of splash, but it was never made for dunking . Sure it'll serve as a warning to some.
"This kills the OnePlus 6"
Would expect any other result? lol. Kinda like... "Put diesel in your gas car and it will stop running!"
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Would expect any other result? lol. Kinda like... "Put diesel in your gas car and it will stop running!"
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I never understood or put any faith into the "water resistance" concept. I mean a phone is a piece of equipment that has many small parts, not to mention it is electronic. No matter how much something claims to be water resistant, at the end of the day, it is man made. It will still have flaws and imperfections. Hell, I will not even take my phone out of my pocket if it drizzling rain outside. Honestly if said individual is near that much water or it is raining that bad, would a phone really be the focal of your attention? It would be like taking a pc to the beach, setting it up at the water's edge during high tide, and waiting for the waves to come. Oh wait...is this really the best idea?
Since condom is one of the best water, dust, sperm, deceases and many more protection,
is anybody know where can we find transparent condoms without lube on it ?
I can't still understand people that goes in water with phone personally i prefer to not bring it in water it's useless, imho of course
See the first video this guy made it survived in the end he immersed for 30 minutes who would do that unless you have more money to waste it survives accidental water drops not intensional immersion for 30 minutes
I want to know if it's okay to repeatedly expose the phone to damp conditions. I'm a cyclist and I put my phone in my jersey pocket while I'm riding. Let me tell you, it gets sweaty back there and my rides are typically about an hour but often are 5 or more hours. Normally I put my phone in a waterproof bag but I would love to have quick access to my camera so I would prefer to not have my phone in a bag at all.q
I wish OnePlus have the 6 an IP rating of some sort. My best guess as to why the OP's OnePlus 6 is still not working a week later is that very same water sealing in the phone. If it's hard for water to get in, it will be hard for water to get out. My guess is if your phone gets wet inside you'll have to open it to dry out out.
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I want to know if it's okay to repeatedly expose the phone to damp conditions. I'm a cyclist and I put my phone in my jersey pocket while I'm riding. Let me tell you, it gets sweaty back there and my rides are typically about an hour but often are 5 or more hours. Normally I put my phone in a waterproof bag but I would love to have quick access to my camera so I would prefer to not have my phone in a bag at all.q
I wish OnePlus have the 6 an IP rating of some sort. My best guess as to why the OP's OnePlus 6 is still not working a week later is that very same water sealing in the phone. If it's hard for water to get in, it will be hard for water to get out. My guess is if your phone gets wet inside you'll have to open it to dry out out.
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The reason there's no IP rating is because of warranty reasons. They don't want people to dunk their phones and then claim for warranty citing the IP rating. Easy way out for them is to not hype the water resistance and tell people to not dunk the phone.
Fun fact: even the OnePlus 5T has water resistance, but it isn't advertised as a feature for the same reason. The phone will survive an accidental splash, but dunking it invites trouble more often than not.
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The reason there's no IP rating is because of warranty reasons. They don't want people to dunk their phones and then claim for warranty citing the IP rating. Easy way out for them is to not hype the water resistance and tell people to not dunk the phone.
Fun fact: even the OnePlus 5T has water resistance, but it isn't advertised as a feature for the same reason. The phone will survive an accidental splash, but dunking it invites trouble more often than not.
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It's not for warranty reasons. Every OEM that offers IP rated phones specifically states that water damage is not covered under warranty. It's most likely because getting a device IP certified costs money and Oneplus didn't want to spend that money.
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It's not for warranty reasons. Every OEM that offers IP rated phones specifically states that water damage is not covered under warranty. It's most likely because getting a device IP certified costs money and Oneplus didn't want to spend that money.
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And this is better or we have oneplus phone that would cost too much for have an useless "add-on" imo
To be honest, lack of water resistance is the first thing I ignore when it comes to a phone's spec list. If it can survive some drops of water from a light rain, it's enough for me. Why would anyone purposefully dunk their phone into water anyway ? I really don't understand this IP rating craze.
Because people think that if it has IP rating that they can go swimming with it and take pictures under water.
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It's not for warranty reasons. Every OEM that offers IP rated phones specifically states that water damage is not covered under warranty. It's most likely because getting a device IP certified costs money and Oneplus didn't want to spend that money.
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I asked OnePlus's product manager during a private meeting before the OnePlus 6 launch. That is the answer I received.
Phones like the Moto G3 came with an IP certification, and that was roughly 1/3rd the current price of OnePlus 6. Cost of certification is not their reason on a phone that is approaching flagship level pricing.
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The reason there's no IP rating is because of warranty reasons. They don't want people to dunk their phones and then claim for warranty citing the IP rating. Easy way out for them is to not hype the water resistance and tell people to not dunk the phone.
Fun fact: even the OnePlus 5T has water resistance, but it isn't advertised as a feature for the same reason. The phone will survive an accidental splash, but dunking it invites trouble more often than not.
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I agree this could be the reason, but consider the marketing benefit an IP rating would have. I suppose water resistant, which is all we have, might not be good enough to bother with against water proof phones. I'm guessing if tested the OP6 would have a rating of IP44 or IP54. I doubt it is fully dust tight, though I am only thinking of the speakers being hindered by dust. We know, based on the OP's video, the OP6 would fail the water IP6 test. I doubt it would survive either water jet test covered under IP 5 or 6. So based on thinking this through while explaining my position re marketing I know agree warranty is the most likely reason.
For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
http://www.wired.co.uk/article/waterproof-phones-ip-ratings
Fun anecdote: Not quite a fact. Even the Oneplus One had some ingress protection and survived every walk in the rain I put it through playing Ingress or PoGo. My old N5 would show signs of water ingress when I tried that. I think it was a camera lens fogging up.
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I agree this could be the reason, but consider the marketing benefit an IP rating would have. I suppose water resistant, which is all we have, might not be good enough to bother with against water proof phones. I'm guessing if tested the OP6 would have a rating of IP44 or IP54. I doubt it is fully dust tight, though I am only thinking of the speakers being hindered by dust. We know, based on the OP's video, the OP6 would fail the water IP6 test. I doubt it would survive either water jet test covered under IP 5 or 6. So based on thinking this through while explaining my position re marketing I know agree warranty is the most likely reason.
For reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code
http://www.wired.co.uk/article/waterproof-phones-ip-ratings
Fun anecdote: Not quite a fact. Even the Oneplus One had some ingress protection and survived every walk in the rain I put it through playing Ingress or PoGo. My old N5 would show signs of water ingress when I tried that. I think it was a camera lens fogging up.
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None of the mainstream flagships are water proof, only water resistant.
Jerryrigseverything mentions in his teardown that the op6 is closer to ip67. I don't know how far correct he is.
All I do know is that the lack of rating is to dissuade people from dunking their phones or taking it for a swim. This comes directly from the people who designed the phone.
Source: I work for the XDA portal. I met the product manager a few weeks after the 5T launch and also right after the 6 launch.
if you go to his channel, the same guy did the same test with other flagships and G7 got water inside the camera but apparently good for now, iPhone X and S9+ died. The S9+ did crack when threw it in the pool so it might have created a gap for the water to get inside
Can I you my phone with Whitestone doom screen protector understand water?
probably not if submerged for any length of time but splash or similar yes
Please don't submerge the phone underwater. Samsung doesn't help you if it gets damaged.
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Lol. Like anybody is going to listen. Water resistant means water proof to the uninformed. The batteries are sealed but still no proof of water proof. They should sell phones with swappable batteries and sealed for the people who think it's ok to take showers with electronics or take care of ceramic business with their phones inches above sewage. All those signatories to the Paris Accord but little has changed.
tamerh said:
Can I you my phone with Whitestone doom screen protector understand water?
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Ive been pretty consistent in submerging my phones since the note7 without issue and Im curious as well.
I think it would probably provide some good information researching the adhesive itself.
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Lol. Like anybody is going to listen. Water resistant means water proof to the uninformed. The batteries are sealed but still no proof of water proof. They should sell phones with swappable batteries and sealed for the people who think it's ok to take showers with electronics or take care of ceramic business with their phones inches above sewage. All those signatories to the Paris Accord but little has changed.
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They clearly state its able to be submerged in water for 10-15 minutes with no damage. You think taking a shower with it is going to damage the phone?? LOL.
Edit: 30 minutes actually.
OPGT said:
They clearly state its able to be submerged in water for 10-15 minutes with no damage. You think taking a shower with it is going to damage the phone?? LOL.
Edit: 30 minutes actually.
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I wouldn't even bother.
The arguments will be
Samsung doesnt suggest/cover it
How does someone know you didn't go to outside the IP rating threshold
Water and electronics dont mix
People will explain water resistant vs proof
The wearing down of water seals
Honorable mention: Shower steam
It's their phone. Let em eat cake.
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They clearly state its able to be submerged in water for 10-15 minutes with no damage. You think taking a shower with it is going to damage the phone?? LOL.
Edit: 30 minutes actually.
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I stick to my water resistant claim. You know the first thing they look for is water ingress for a repair. I can't even test the 'proof' for fear of failure. Once the OEMs change up their wording and how they handle claims I'll be more than happy to go along with 'waterproof' claims. Until then, I stick to water resistant claims.
Another reason is batteries. We have climate change going on not to mention a myriad of infrastructure failing including trash and recycling and batteries are very hard for the end user to swap because people are so addicted to these technological marvel slabs, not only do people sleep with their phones (literally) but showering and using them on the toilet is more important than the environment. This could easily be handled two ways. Make phones with battery covers and water proof phones for the choice or make it water proof/resistant but easily swappable by the end user. This can be done easily with screws or other methods. But fashion is also a higher priority. BTW, have you read the Paris Agreement? I am halfway through it. I am the only person I know that has even bothered. And recycling phones and batteries isn't all that easy and cheap. And China just stopped taking our trash which is already causing the US huge problems. Know about the black river in China? You looked into India a little more closely? End of rant.
Reality and specs are two different things. Ask Sony when they first started making waterproof claims and people were testing those claims and lots of phones failed the 'proof' test and Sony's marketing and liability wording changed. Samsung and Apple also fail on this part. Samsung Active phones which were made more rugged and water proof was much higher on the spec and marketing list and look where that went. To my knowledge Samsung has unofficially discontinued the Active line which means we don't get the choice of safeguarding our environment and unnecessary convenience.
So yeah, I think taking a shower is at high risk of damage to the phone, your wallet and stress levels. The only time I've been worried about water is when I go fishing. The remedy? Ziplock bag and still able to use my phone. Rain hasn't been a worry for a few years. If OEMs are true to their marketing and claims, the inside circuitry should have a nano coating to repel water and lessen chance of a short. Tests on YouTube mean nothing also. Wasn't it the S8 Active that failed miserably in the real world? Makes you wonder more about cherry picking. Or not.
You willing to make a 30 minute video of your note9 at least 1 meter underwater to share with us? Water resistance is very low on my priority list.
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I stick to my water resistant claim. You know the first thing they look for is water ingress for a repair. I can't even test the 'proof' for fear of failure. Once the OEMs change up their wording and how they handle claims I'll be more than happy to go along with 'waterproof' claims. Until then, I stick to water resistant claims.
Another reason is batteries. We have climate change going on not to mention a myriad of infrastructure failing including trash and recycling and batteries are very hard for the end user to swap because people are so addicted to these technological marvel slabs, not only do people sleep with their phones (literally) but showering and using them on the toilet is more important than the environment. This could easily be handled two ways. Make phones with battery covers and water proof phones for the choice or make it water proof/resistant but easily swappable by the end user. This can be done easily with screws or other methods. But fashion is also a higher priority. BTW, have you read the Paris Agreement? I am halfway through it. I am the only person I know that has even bothered. And recycling phones and batteries isn't all that easy and cheap. And China just stopped taking our trash which is already causing the US huge problems. Know about the black river in China? You looked into India a little more closely? End of rant.
Reality and specs are two different things. Ask Sony when they first started making waterproof claims and people were testing those claims and lots of phones failed the 'proof' test and Sony's marketing and liability wording changed. Samsung and Apple also fail on this part. Samsung Active phones which were made more rugged and water proof was much higher on the spec and marketing list and look where that went. To my knowledge Samsung has unofficially discontinued the Active line which means we don't get the choice of safeguarding our environment and unnecessary convenience.
So yeah, I think taking a shower is at high risk of damage to the phone, your wallet and stress levels. The only time I've been worried about water is when I go fishing. The remedy? Ziplock bag and still able to use my phone. Rain hasn't been a worry for a few years. If OEMs are true to their marketing and claims, the inside circuitry should have a nano coating to repel water and lessen chance of a short. Tests on YouTube mean nothing also. Wasn't it the S8 Active that failed miserably in the real world? Makes you wonder more about cherry picking. Or not.
You willing to make a 30 minute video of your note9 at least 1 meter underwater to share with us? Water resistance is very low on my priority list.
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Not going to make a random person a 30 minute video just to prove a point. I take showers with it from time to time. My last phone was the S7 edge and did the same. Even swam with it for a couple minutes under water. Do whatever you want lol.
I took my Note 7 in the pool before I sent it back to Samsung to be put down, no issues but I did wait until I had a new phone to try it.
Last month my wife dropped her S7 with a crack in the screen in the pool, and it was after she showered and put on make-up so she didn't jump in and get it, she got the pool skimmer and took her time getting it out. No issues.
Still not interested in taking my Note 9 swimming, I have a GoPro for that.