Hello all. I would like to suggest that, if possible, the HTC Keyboard be included in GPE ROMs. That app is the one reason I have yet to fully embrace the GPE builds, simply because I am so dependent on the four arrow keys across the bottom, that allow me to move my cursor around in text, not having to use my clumsy fingertip to place the cursor.
Is that something that can be done? If the seemingly useless HTC Dot can be brought over, surely the keyboard can...
Shane
Would the HTC keyboard even work in GPE? GPE doesn't have Sense. SwiftKey has the arrows, optionally, but I don't recommend it. It's never worked well for me.
If you don't need to run ART, you can get the arrows with Xposed+GravityBox.
Look into UnSense. It's Sense but it looks and acts like a GPE. It doesn't come with the HTC keyboard, but you can find it in the Play Store.
Unfortunately a lot of the Sense apps require the Sense framework to work at all. This is why we miss out on the Sense Camera and some other apps when going to GPE. UnSenseSix is your best bet at a GPE-like experience while still compatible with all Sense apps and features.
Thanks very much for the insight and suggestions!
this should be in the general section
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this should be in the general section
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Q&A is where I've moved it.
@sigshane - why can't you just replace the latinime.apk with the HTC keyboard yourself?
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I want to know how I can install a few apps that are from the HTC DESIRE to our nexus.
I have the APK's but when I use root explorer or astro I get a DID NOT INSTALL.
I want to install:
- HTCMUSIC (SWEET PLAYER!)
- HTCNAVIPANEL
- HTCSTREAMPLAYER
And a few others.
I tried adding them to the nexus app update zip that installs fine after I install a bare rom. But it will not work that way.
Any suggestions? I REALLY want these apps on my nexus!
get the Paul's (Modaco) Desire ROM for the Nexus... as far as I know, only a few apps work without the Rosie (HTC Sense) framework
Search Feature, does wonders...
You can't just drop Sense UI APK's into a stock ROM and expect it to work, the Sense Framework is not there and there is really no point in porting it because of the work involved.
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Search Feature, does wonders...
You can't just drop Sense UI APK's into a stock ROM and expect it to work, the Sense Framework is not there and there is really no point in porting it because of the work involved.
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No DUH search helps and I DID search just so I don't have to read comments like yours to do a search. What am I suppose to search for that will give me the answer you just did? No need to answer. Most people are not so "informed" as you or have the knowledge to kow what to search for. So why not just relax and take a humble pill and help out nicely!
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No DUH search helps and I DID search just so I don't have to read comments like yours to do a search. What am I suppose to search for that will give me the answer you just did? No need to answer. Most people are not so "informed" as you or have the knowledge to kow what to search for. So why not just relax and take a humble pill and help out nicely!
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DUH, if you searched you would not that. You need to learn how to search better. Best bet is to just use one of the roms that are already HTC Roms.
It's not hard to learn how to search for what you really want to look for. If you think it's hard then maybe you should've bought an iphone.
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get the Paul's (Modaco) Desire ROM for the Nexus... as far as I know, only a few apps work without the Rosie (HTC Sense) framework
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I had the desire rom but it has issues. I make calls and after the call the phone locks up and wont turn the screen on. Sometimes I'm in the email app and it closes on its own. But the htcmusic and is nice so I just wanted to install a few of the desire apps. I did get the desire keyboard working so that was nice.
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No DUH search helps and I DID search just so I don't have to read comments like yours to do a search. What am I suppose to search for that will give me the answer you just did? No need to answer. Most people are not so "informed" as you or have the knowledge to kow what to search for. So why not just relax and take a humble pill and help out nicely!
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Not to sound flamish but if you did search you would of seen several threads asking for the same thing, (How can I port the music app/weather/etc, and given the same answers. Most of the HTC apps require the Sense framework. It would be a ton of work to port the framework over to a non-Sense rom. One could say it would be........nonsense to try <insert dr evil laugh>. If you dont like the launcher or widgets, what you can do is install the Sense rom and then change the Rosie Launcher to the stock one and also switch out the apps you are having problems with. For the most part non-Scense apps will run on Sense but not vice versa.
@JasjarMan, just to make things clear... Sense UI is an OEM extension to the Android framework by HTC. It has several components not available in the stock Android framework. Sense UI framework is proprietary and porting the framework would be very difficult (but not impossible) considering it's not open source.
As @MonkySlap said, most of the stock Android applications and components would work on the HTC Desire ROM port considering the fact that beneath the HTC framework lies the stock Android framework.
And yes, there are tonnes of threads where this question has been answered before.
That said, there is a port of the old HTC music application (not the Desire 2.1 application) which works on non-Sense ROMs... something a little search would retrieve... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651889&highlight=HTC+music+app
Hi All,
I am currently an iPhone user, but this phone may make me change league. Just a few questions regarding this particular device running HTC Sense 4.
One of the reason I considering change league is because ICS finally support full OpenGL ES rendering in the browser and all over the UI.
As far as I know, HTC devices use their own branded theme HTC Sense, which bundled with its own browser rather than the vanilla ICS browser. I noticed that the vanilla ICS browser has the option to enable full OpenGL ES render path. This make the browser work a lot faster and better surfing exp. I wonder if HTC's native browser has the same setting(s). Or is it already coded to enable OpenGL ES rendering?
If not, can I change the default browser to something, say the vanilla ICS chrome browser? or Dolphin? (not sure if Dolphin support OpenGL ES rendering though.)
Thanks.
It's still the same Ice Cream Sandwich browser just with HTC Sense themed over it, but the code inside the browser should be a bit different for the Tegra 3.
As long as you enable 'Full 2D GPU Rendering' or something in the developer setting, other browser should have it.
Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??
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Thanks,
Is there any easy way to disable the Sense Theme then? or even run vanilla ICS? Coz in previous HTC releases, Sense of earlier versions really slow the UI experience or even lagging, that put me off a bit even they have some of the highest-end hardware in the market.
Or Does it mean that unlock bootloader, root access or even custom ROM will be needed??
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As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
Hope that helps
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As far as removing Sense (I did it on my Sensation), you will probably need to do all 3 (unlock bootloader, root access and installing a custom ROM) in my case i used Android Revolution HD, with the noSense script applied directly after installing ROM.
My guess is that it will be the same sort of thing to do it to the One S.
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Thanks mate,
Although I may not like the Sense theme applied to the UI and browser, I found that the HTC's touch on the camera app is quite well received. I wonder if there is any possible ways to keep the camera app HTC way and just stop the Sense theme from working over the UI and Browser?
Cheers.
You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.
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You can always change launcher to GO launcher, ADW or Launcher pro. That wont take sense away completely but a big part of it. That can be done without root.
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That's brilliant, thank you.
In terms of rooting the device and unlocking the bootloader, how hard will that be? As I know Sony's Xperia range even offer official unlock bootloader support, how good is this for the HTC's? Sorry for the noob questions.
You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.
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You can unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website and there is already a method for rooting in the developer section of this forum.
The only true way to get rid of sense is to flash an AOSP rom, CM9 for example. AOSP is basically the stock android OS but when and if AOSP roms show up for this phone is hard to say. A lot of people buy HTC for sense so sense roms tend to be more popular.
AOSP means you will lose the HTC camera app which means you will lose all the cool features like burst mode. As mentioned you can use a different launcher, some like Apex launcher are based on the stock android launcher so it will be a good way to get the stock feel whilst keeping all the HTC apps. This is probably what I will do, as much as I prefer AOSP in general I don't want to lose the camera app.
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Thanks mate,
but using the launcher method will mean that I only get rid of the UI Sense home, but still need to stick with other HTC Sense features like HTC style multitasking, etc. where I prefer the original ICS.
What a shame! This phone is really a beauty in built and form factor is perfect for me. But many little flaws put me off a bit and a second thought is really in my mind...
e.g. The camera's output is too soft, the HTC sense in a burden for ICS, etc.
Hello,
As always, developers are sliding further and further away from the Sense UI. While I am also for this, I am curious as to what will happen with the functionality of the Media Link HD. Will developers be able to keep the functionality in there while removing most of the sense bloat or will this be considered bloat? Can somebody tell me exactly what "apps" htc has added for the functionality so that we can put them back if the developers remove them? What kind of dependencies do these apps need? Thank you for your help.
I imagine no one will know that until it is tried/we get an unlocked bootloader
Sense apps are usually pretty intertwined with the Sense framework. AFAIK, there has been little success importing Sense apps and features to AOSP ROMs. On the other hand, Sense ROMs stripped of some of their features and bloat, and themed to look AOSP are not out of the question (and pretty prevalent on other devices). Its possible a dev will make something like this, and leave the Media Link HD function intact. The only way to really answer this question, is if some devs come on here and tell you themselves. Even then, its so early on, and those plans may well change.
Scott's CleanROM Dev edition is pretty close. It still has the media link and some other sense features but the launcher and widgets are all stripped out. Runs very nice and Apex launcher is built in.
Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
THIS THREAD IS FOR FIX BUGS OF SENSE BY KEEP USING SENSE INTERFACE NOT BY USING OTHERS HOME LAUNCHERS
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Hi there!
I have an HTC One S S4 and like all of you I have updated to jelly bean but I have been kind of disappointed because of some bugs/removed features that I have encountered in the use of the new ROM, here are some of the one I have found:
1) the new keyboard is laggy expecially because of the assisted writing. Also I don't like the new layout which doesn't have the "remove keyboard" button.
2) mobile wallpaper on the background in ICS move themself while sliding now in JB the background image is stuck, it's not moving while sliding through the pages of the home.
3) there is lag for the live wallpapers on the home...don't know maybe it's the rosie
4) equalization option inside the music player has been removed, the music player from stock rom 1.78 had it
5) meteo and music widgets has no more 3d effect while sliding through the home, it would be nice to have the old widgets back!!
Let's try to report here all of the bugs/removed features and also the fix for them ( always if they exists ). Actually I think that HTC isn't going to realese any more updates and this is disappointing.
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For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!
USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.
dariusz666 said:
USB PC connection. I like ICS because I can see files on my phone just like on any other removeable usb device.
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You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.
AW: Let's try to fix Jelly bean official ROM bugs !!!
This shouldn't be posted in the dev section.
Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 2
Anyways it should be continued here as it's not new.
Darknites said:
You can use TWRP if you really need mass storage.
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But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.
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But still it's not comfortable. If there is option to enable this feature, should be enabled.
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Its not the best but if you want to keep JB Sense then thats all you can do for mass storage.
Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.
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Two things:
1 - Wrong section. Don't be a noob (too late...).
2 - HTC's JellyBean sucks. There is already a solution to fix ALL of these issues: GO TO AOSP. It's 10.5378x times better. I'm never going back to Sense now...
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Seriously...asking to fix what are minor appearance and usability bugs in Sense is pretty much a full time job. If you're complaining about the wallpaper and 3d effects in widgets, you might as well make a list of all the ways Sense looks like crap starting with the basic color scheme and jarring difference in appearance when AOSP blue peeks through Sense green.
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If I would have fixed those bugs/things by using another launcher first of all I would have NOT open this thread and second I would have NOT bought an HTC device in the first place. I like sense and I want to keep using it, also I think that a lot of people think the same. If you want to use CWD or something like that you are free to do that and nobody has invited you here.
P.S. I apologize for posting in the wrong section
Maverick87Shaka said:
For me one of the most annoying things it's the keyboard too.
Also for the "remove keyboard" button that I use a lot, my problem it's that i made a lot of mistake during typing due to the dimension of the keyboard. I check with two phone near, one with JB and the other with the old ICS, and the keyboard of the JB it's smaller, and the area of a single character it's smaller!
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I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??
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I had red on the jelly bean official thread that someone fix the lag on the keyboard by doing a fresh install with the RUU and wiping everythin ( I have updated via OTA ), but I have never tried because I was skeptical about this, have you tried??
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Try jelly bean keyboard pro, no lag at all and you can choose the size of the keys and the keyboard
Hi,
On top of that mentioned, I'm working with Hebrew UI and not the only one who faced a FC on the calendar when trying to enter/change a meeting with a recipient.
The same procedure while on English UI is all fine.
Already opened a help ticket which was already escalated to the technical support as BUG.
In terms of official roms, I see no benefit with JB over say, ViperS 1.2.1 (ICS).
In fact, I think its inferior in almost every way (things like no USB Mass storage mode etc).
I ran stock ICS for quite a long time (compared to what I normally do) and was quite happy with it, nothing particularly wrong with it.
Then came the JB OTA, and the forums got flooded with issues :silly:
I'm going to format my phone to see if then the keyboard keep lagging...I just need some times to do that...
Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?
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Can I ask, with the new JB update, do you lose the ability to connect the phone to a PC and access the SD Card (as a removable drive)?
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when you connect the phone to the PC you will see that device on the pc explorer and by entering in it you can access the drive but you cannot connect it as a removable disk...indeed this is disappointing
By the way I have erased all the data and reset the phone completely, now the keyboard it's a little better, less lag but still worst of the one on ICS
well the keyboard is pretty much the same..a little better but still laggy, I want the old back!!
I tried a Sense 5 Rom today but had to go back to CM 10.2. However, I did fall in love with the Sense 5 keyboard, because for me it's the most accurate keyboard I've ever used (never missed a key after typing many words, which I cannot do with any other keyboard). It's such a pity that the keyboard cannot work directly with copy and paste of of the .apk. Would anyone be kind enough to port this keyboard to CM? Thanks.
Short answer. No.
Long answer. Every aspect of Sense is tied heavily into the Sense framework so you can't just port it to a non-sense ROM. Is it possible? Probably, but the effort required to somehow introduce all Sense framework into an aosp ROM would be too great. It just isn't going to happen.
As an alternative I'd strongly recommend the Swype keyboard. I've used pretty much every keyboard that's available for Android and Swype is the best, hands down. A lot of people like Swiftkey, and that's probably the second best keyboard, but the word recognition and prediction is terrible.
Sent from my Evita.
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It's such a pity that the keyboard cannot work directly with copy and paste of of the .apk.
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A pity for you, but its intended that way by HTC, as its very logical that they would want to protect their intellectual property and their work. Therefore, all Sense apps are tied closely to the Sense framework, and its very laborious to port them.
As timmaaa says, its technically "possible" to port Sense elements to AOSP. But its too much work for not a lot of interest, that its simply not going to happen. For the most part, folks that like Sense features use Sense ROM; and those that don't use AOSP.