I currently have the Z1s and love the camera, I'm just curious what people think of the camera compared to the Z1. I'm wondering what improvements people see and if it's worth the upgrade? I use the camera a lot and consider it a Big feature, if it isn't that much better then I'll hold off for the Z4.
Any opinions are appreciated.
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Kanes_Inferno said:
I currently have the Z1s and love the camera, I'm just curious what people think of the camera compared to the Z1. I'm wondering what improvements people see and if it's worth the upgrade? I use the camera a lot and consider it a Big feature, if it isn't that much better then I'll hold off for the Z4.
Any opinions are appreciated.
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Z1 to Z3 can be good
actually i upgrade Z1 to Z2
everything is better after Z2; display, sound, camera performance battery and ..........
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My Z3 takes nice pictures, however i find that the software is a bit slow when taking pictures. Camera heats up after long use. Sometimes you get blurry pictures, but i guess it is the same for most camera phones.
I've found that pictures on 20mp manual come out really nicely, although anything on Superior Auto is horrendous.
I had the Z1, and I think the manual pics on the Z3 are much better than pictures on the Z1. Not sure that will be good enough for you though as you can't do any modes or HDR on 20mp.
What settings do you use on manual?
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I've found that pictures on 20mp manual come out really nicely, although anything on Superior Auto is horrendous.
I had the Z1, and I think the manual pics on the Z3 are much better than pictures on the Z1. Not sure that will be good enough for you though as you can't do any modes or HDR on 20mp.
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I've actually had good luck with Superior Auto, is it the same or worse on z3?
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m2 has a really bad stock camera app,.does anyone know better camera app,that make better picture...with which app you have best experiance...?
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m2 has a really bad stock camera app,.does anyone know better camera app,that make better picture...with which app you have best experiance...?
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Look for the stock Android camera.
I'm using the FV-5 camera (non-free). Gives you control over sharpening/post processing options and also a "raw" mode (png).
Did sony tweak the camera on kitkat? Or is it still so terribad?
To answer my own question, sony did in fact improve the camera quality with kitkat. Though it's still not quite good. In the past it had lots of sharpening artifacts, now it does not have those. However, the edges are now fuzzy instead of being slightly unsharp...
I need some photo samples taken by Xperia M2 in full-size after KitKat upgrade.
Thank you.
After kitkat upgrade the pictures a cleaner, they don't have that black dot's any more, that was the first thing i checked after upgrade
BUT still the pictures are far from great.
ll upload some pic's when i get home.
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After kitkat upgrade the pictures a cleaner, they don't have that black dot's any more, that was the first thing i checked after upgrade
BUT still the pictures are far from great.
ll upload some pic's when i get home.
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Thank you so much.
Here is a picture with kitkat.
Someone posted this about the Z2 and why you need to root it in order to get the best camera resolution:
Basically it gives you the option to do things you normally couldn't. Install custom software. Delete apps that normally can't be deleted. Modifications to things like camera (eg the phone currently only uses 8mp in superior auto, but the mod allows it to use 20mp in superior) all kinds of tweaks and stuff that without root access, you wouldn't be able to install.
So does anyone know if the Z3 will have this issue resolved or will you still need to root it in order to get 20MP in Superior Auto Mode? I think it's so stupid that you have to root it in order to get that. It should be a choice, not forced. Hopefully it won't need to be.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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Someone posted this about the Z2 and why you need to root it in order to get the best camera resolution:
Basically it gives you the option to do things you normally couldn't. Install custom software. Delete apps that normally can't be deleted. Modifications to things like camera (eg the phone currently only uses 8mp in superior auto, but the mod allows it to use 20mp in superior) all kinds of tweaks and stuff that without root access, you wouldn't be able to install.
So does anyone know if the Z3 will have this issue resolved or will you still need to root it in order to get 20MP in Superior Auto Mode? I think it's so stupid that you have to root it in order to get that. It should be a choice, not forced. Hopefully it won't need to be.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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Yes. because 20/21MP is standard on 4:3 aspect ratio.
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Yes. because 20/21MP is standard on 4:3 aspect ratio.
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Hey Electrash,
Sorry, did you mean yes it's been resolved on the Z3 or yes the Z3 will still need to be rooted in order to get 20/21MPs in Superior Auto Mode?
Thanks,
RockStar2005
Yes, you will need root to use 20.7 in SA.
But why do you need it, you need to have screen like cinema paper to watch 20.7 mp in native size.
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Yes, you will need root to use 20.7 in SA.
But why do you need it, you need to have screen like cinema paper to watch 20.7 mp in native size.
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Ugghh ok. lol Thanks Electrash!
I just want the best. lol
Well when I transfer those pics to my pc and view them, I would think the difference would be noticeable? I mean 8 vs 20.7 sounds like a huge difference to me, even if both are still Sony-based. It's not quite cinema size, but my PC screen (21") is still much bigger than any phone screen I'll ever have.
What u guys think?
RockStar2005
http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?width=5400&height=3600
Check this site 75inch*50inch is size of native picture at 19.4MP.
Also I doubt that you have 5600*3600 screen resolution, that means half of this pixels won't even be shown, unless you zoom in a lot.
But again, who takes picture to zoom like telescope.
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http://web.forret.com/tools/megapixel.asp?width=5400&height=3600
Check this site 75inch*50inch is size of native picture at 19.4MP.
Also I doubt that you have 5600*3600 screen resolution, that means half of this pixels won't even be shown, unless you zoom in a lot.
But again, who takes picture to zoom like telescope.
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Ok took a look at it. Thank you.
Well that's the thing....... I wouldn't say I zoom in a lot, but sometimes I do. It's just nice to know that when I do, the sharpness won't fade away.
So you think the quality of Superior Auto Mode at 8MPs will still be really nice? I just don't get why they can't let ppl choose for themselves? I hate being forced to choose stuff. That's one of the main reasons why I stick with Android over like Apple is b/c of the choice, the freedom. If I got it I may root it, or not. Who knows.
RockStar2005
8MP is more then enough for everything that we "little" people want to do with pictures. Trust me, I was against that, but since I research a lot, I found out that I don't need more then 8MP.
In my situation, I have 15.6inch HD screen. That means even 2MP are enough to be shown in native size, everything beyond that is for sharpness.
Why they don't let you choose, well I don't know, but I heard that SA downscale 20mp in 8MP for better image. But don't use this as true because I didn't search for this one.
Take a research if that is true, and then try to research how downscale makes photo.
(lumia 1020 Downscale her 41mp to around 15 as I remember)
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8MP is more then enough for everything that we "little" people want to do with pictures. Trust me, I was against that, but since I research a lot, I found out that I don't need more then 8MP.
In my situation, I have 15.6inch HD screen. That means even 2MP are enough to be shown in native size, everything beyond that is for sharpness.
Why they don't let you choose, well I don't know, but I heard that SA downscale 20mp in 8MP for better image. But don't use this as true because I didn't search for this one.
Take a research if that is true, and then try to research how downscale makes photo.
(lumia 1020 Downscale her 41mp to around 15 as I remember)
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lol I dunno....... I have a Sony camera, 16.2 megapixels.......... and it's a fantastic camera! Carl Zeiss lens and everything! So I am picky about that stuff.
How does downscaling a 20MP pic to 8MPs make it better?
I actually tested the Nokia Lumia 1020 this past week for a phone survey/focus group I'm doing. It wasn't a bad phone really, but 41MP camera? It's a joke man. The pics came out like nothing special at all. Obviously when it comes to cameras, there's a lot more than just MPs at play (focus, light sensitivity, flash, etc). But Sony knows that and incorporates a great deal of that knowledge into their cameras and phone cameras too. I'm not surprised you said 41 to 15MPs for the Lumia, because I swear, the pics I took on the 1020 LOOKED like they were not even 15MPs. I don't get why they advertise 40MPs if it gets downscaled? At least with the Z3 you can get 20.7MPs if you use normal mode. I just don't know man. We'll see what happens.
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lol I dunno....... I have a Sony camera, 16.2 megapixels.......... and it's a fantastic camera! Carl Zeiss lens and everything! So I am picky about that stuff.
How does downscaling a 20MP pic to 8MPs make it better?
I actually tested the Nokia Lumia 1020 this past week for a phone survey/focus group I'm doing. It wasn't a bad phone really, but 41MP camera? It's a joke man. The pics came out like nothing special at all. Obviously when it comes to cameras, there's a lot more than just MPs at play (focus, light sensitivity, flash, etc). But Sony knows that and incorporates a great deal of that knowledge into their cameras and phone cameras too. I'm not surprised you said 41 to 15MPs for the Lumia, because I swear, the pics I took on the 1020 LOOKED like they were not even 15MPs. I don't get why they advertise 40MPs if it gets downscaled? At least with the Z3 you can get 20.7MPs if you use normal mode. I just don't know man. We'll see what happens.
RockStar2005
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Even worst, 1020 take pictures in 5MP in their "Superior Auto"
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Even worst, 1020 take pictures in 5MP in their "Superior Auto"
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OMG really? That's awful!! lol
Let me know about your answer too: How does downscaling a 20MP pic to 8MPs make it better?
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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Even worst, 1020 take pictures in 5MP in their "Superior Auto"
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Electrash.........I think I got my answer:
Saw this review on the Z3. Some interesting things on the camera on page 3. Sample pics at bottom look pretty sharp to me, even when zoomed in: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795/page/3
The Sony Xperia Z3's camera user interface is mostly easy to use, especially when you're sticking with Sony's Superior Auto mode, which attempts to automatically pick the best settings for you, depending on the scene you're trying to photograph, and tends to be pretty accurate most of the time. By default, the Sony Xperia Z3's Superior Auto mode shoots at 8 MP. It does use the full resolution of the 20 MP sensor, but scales the pictures down - this way, the user ends up with high-quality 8 MP photos of 'easy-to-share' size that don't exhibit less visible artifacts when viewed in actual size.
We were, frankly, surprised to see how natural the color representation of images taken with the Sony Xperia Z3 is. Sony usually boosts the color saturation and contrast a bit (or a lot), resulting in flashy hues, which are not representing the scene in front of the lens in a completely credible manner. With the Z3, however, Sony tweaked takes a what-you-see-is-what-you-get approach, producing natural colors. The automatic white balance measurements are valid with most every shot, leaving no weird overcasts in the scene. Last, but not least, the phone is able to grab a fine amount of detail..
Feel free to read the whole 4 page review if you like: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Electrash.........I think I got my answer:
Saw this review on the Z3. Some interesting things on the camera on page 3. Sample pics at bottom look pretty sharp to me, even when zoomed in: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795/page/3
The Sony Xperia Z3's camera user interface is mostly easy to use, especially when you're sticking with Sony's Superior Auto mode, which attempts to automatically pick the best settings for you, depending on the scene you're trying to photograph, and tends to be pretty accurate most of the time. By default, the Sony Xperia Z3's Superior Auto mode shoots at 8 MP. It does use the full resolution of the 20 MP sensor, but scales the pictures down - this way, the user ends up with high-quality 8 MP photos of 'easy-to-share' size that don't exhibit less visible artifacts when viewed in actual size.
We were, frankly, surprised to see how natural the color representation of images taken with the Sony Xperia Z3 is. Sony usually boosts the color saturation and contrast a bit (or a lot), resulting in flashy hues, which are not representing the scene in front of the lens in a completely credible manner. With the Z3, however, Sony tweaked takes a what-you-see-is-what-you-get approach, producing natural colors. The automatic white balance measurements are valid with most every shot, leaving no weird overcasts in the scene. Last, but not least, the phone is able to grab a fine amount of detail..
Feel free to read the whole 4 page review if you like: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z3-Review_id3795
RockStar2005
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Thanks for sharing. I will take a look of course because I am interested in this stuff.
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I zoom in and crop on most pics and wife's S5 is better than my z2 as when I try and zoom and crop my pics are lacking in detail so I think in some cases more mp are better. Depends on what you want. 8mp is not always enough for certain situations.
Hi. I would like to thank you all for this interesting topic. I learned a lot about how the Z3 camera works and what's the point of 8MP/20MP
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Hi. I would like to thank you all for this interesting topic. I learned a lot about how the Z3 camera works and what's the point of 8MP/20MP
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No problem bel!
RockStar2005
Hi there,
got the D6603 Z3 and compared it to my girlfriends Z2. The camera of the Z2 looks much better than from my Z3.
Thought it is the same hardware in both phones. Tried in automatic and manual mode with same settings and got a lot of frame drops on Z3. On Z2 everythings looks sharper an run smoother.
Any ideas?
fknpwned said:
Hi there,
got the D6603 Z3 and compared it to my girlfriends Z2. The camera of the Z2 looks much better than from my Z3.
Thought it is the same hardware in both phones. Tried in automatic and manual mode with same settings and got a lot of frame drops on Z3. On Z2 everythings looks sharper an run smoother.
Any ideas?
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do you have advanced power saving on?
Funny enough i to havent been very impressed with the camera although i never had a z2 so cant compare but i came from a htc one so expected a huge improvement! Its not bad by any means but it just doesnt seem as sharp as i was expecting! And background focus rarely works , Its alot trickier then it appears when seen in reviews!
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No.
Yeah, i got the z3c. Its underwhelming for sure. Never played with a z2 say cant say anything about that. Anybody find good cam settings for their z3 (or z3c, same hardware i believe)?
Manual, 15mp, auto iso, image stabilisation off, metering spot, focus mode touch.
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fknpwned said:
Hi there,
got the D6603 Z3 and compared it to my girlfriends Z2. The camera of the Z2 looks much better than from my Z3.
Thought it is the same hardware in both phones. Tried in automatic and manual mode with same settings and got a lot of frame drops on Z3. On Z2 everythings looks sharper an run smoother.
Any ideas?
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the Android 4.4.2 on Xperia Z2 is more stable than new 4.4.4 on Xperia Z3
it always happen for all phone that because there is firmware update
Connect you Z3 to PC companion & Repair firmware
then check the camera
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Check both Camera (Z2 with Z3) with same setting
1. both superior mode
2. then set manual setting and compare
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Funny enough I had the same problem with my Xperia Z1.
Image quality was worse than my previous Z at first but after a firmware update it was fixed.
Probably the same issue here.
In order to make the image looks better in the viewfinder,Z3 let the ISO not the highest like Z2
this change makes shutter speed slow,and fps decrease.
you can notice that viewfinder's image quality in Z3 at a low light environment much better than Z2
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Manual, 15mp, auto iso, image stabilisation off, metering spot, focus mode touch.
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Hey corrallus,
Do you or anyone on here know how to make Manual the DEFAULT setting when you first activate the Camera app instead of Superior Auto? Lemme know if you do.
Thanks,
RockStar2005
I don't think that's possible yet without root RockStar2005, it is definately a big annoyance. I have ruined a few photos by not realizing/forgetting I have to keep setting manual after opening via button.
Ok thanks abhinav! The one person on xda said if you use Xperia Home Launcher it has the option on the home screen right of the default one to do this, but I use Nova Launcher, so I just have to deal with it too. lol But if you use Xperia Launcher, you may wanna read that post (#3).
I'm not really concerned with the finished product; both Z2 and Z3 produce fotos of a quality much higher than I would really need.
What bothers me, is how much the Z3 slows down to take a picture. I'm currently playing with Cyanogen 11 and the camera app launches instantaneously and takes photos without lag; neither possible with Sony; super super ultra omega mode or otherwise.
Is anyone experiencing this, I don't see many threads?
Tonight I did a camera comparison with a friends IPhone 6 and the IPhone 6 was far superior in every sense. Images from the Z3 generally seem grainy and lack detail and sharpness.
I see a few people have mentioned that the camera is better of you manually set the options. This isn't what a smartphone is for when you need to snap a quick shot, by the time you've done all that you've missed the moment.
I swapped my LG G3 (which also took better shots) for this and I'm really underwhelmed by the camera on the Z3, which ironically is its main selling point.
Can anyone suggest some third party camera apps which would perform better?
Also do you think Sony will fix this, i owned the original Z and can recall having some camera issues. I didn't think they would still be present 4 years on.
The Z3 camera was hyped up so much, I really can't see why. Great on paper, not so good in the real world.
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rm83855 said:
Is anyone experiencing this, I don't see many threads?
Tonight I did a camera comparison with a friends IPhone 6 and the IPhone 6 was far superior in every sense. Images from the Z3 generally seem grainy and lack detail and sharpness.
I see a few people have mentioned that the camera is better of you manually set the options. This isn't what a smartphone is for when you need to snap a quick shot, by the time you've done all that you've missed the moment.
I swapped my LG G3 (which also took better shots) for this and I'm really underwhelmed by the camera on the Z3, which ironically is its main selling point.
Can anyone suggest some third party camera apps which would perform better?
Also do you think Sony will fix this, i owned the original Z and can recall having some camera issues. I didn't think they would still be present 4 years on.
The Z3 camera was hyped up so much, I really can't see why. Great on paper, not so good in the real world.
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superior auto mode is basically a 8 mp with hdr and flash with some adjustments better go with the manual so you can choose a higher mega pixel.
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superior auto mode is basically a 8 mp with hdr and flash with some adjustments better go with the manual so you can choose a higher mega pixel.
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I installed Pro Capture and it seems a lot better. Sony is doing half a job. You cannot supply excellent hardware and not take advantage of it with the software. It seems most people are impressed by the specs of the camera more than its ability to actually take a picture! I cannot believe how much hype surrounding this camera there was.
Have you tried the xposed module 'superiorauto 20mp'? which forces the SA mode to shoot at 20megapixels?
My pictures are coming out flat, with very poor contrast and colour rendition. I've owned mainly Samsungs before, and their cameras, even lower in MP, have given excellent results. I was expecting something lot better with a 20MP camera, but the quality I'm getting is comparable to maybe a 5MP camera. I use the Superior Auto mode, with full 20MP resolution.
Anyone else disappointed with the camera as well?
I'm not disappointed with it but seems some people are. Have you looked in the General section? There's a thread for voicing your opinion on the cam: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2887635
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My pictures are coming out flat, with very poor contrast and colour rendition. I've owned mainly Samsungs before, and their cameras, even lower in MP, have given excellent results. I was expecting something lot better with a 20MP camera, but the quality I'm getting is comparable to maybe a 5MP camera. I use the Superior Auto mode, with full 20MP resolution.
Anyone else disappointed with the camera as well?
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I just talked about that few days ago...
I was comparing Note4 and Z3 and Note 4 kicked Z3s ass...
Z3 can take great photos outside when there's a lot of light but in lower light conditions photos are terrible...
You can always switch to manual shooting mode and set few things but you won't get nothing special...
That's the only thing I would like to see improved in next gen Xperia...
I'm absolutely satisfied with everything else..
OK, that and maybe X-pen, Sammy has S-pen so why shouldn't we have X-pen
It's amazing addon for many things (I'm using S-Pen to sign documents in PDF, without needing to print them out) and emailing them after signing...
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I just talked about that few days ago...
I was comparing Note4 and Z3 and Note 4 kicked Z3s ass...
Z3 can take great photos outside when there's a lot of light but in lower light conditions photos are terrible...
You can always switch to manual shooting mode and set few things but you won't get nothing special...
That's the only thing I would like to see improved in next gen Xperia...
I'm absolutely satisfied with everything else..
OK, that and maybe X-pen, Sammy has S-pen so why shouldn't we have X-pen
It's amazing addon for many things (I'm using S-Pen to sign documents in PDF, without needing to print them out) and emailing them after signing...
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Note 4 kicked Z3s ass ?
Whay don' t you buy one!
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Note 4 kicked Z3s ass ?
Whay don' t you buy one!
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Hahah...grow up buddy..
I have both device and I'm in Xperia threads for a years... So please - save your kind words for someone else...
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Hahah...grow up buddy..
I have both device and I'm in Xperia threads for a years... So please - save your kind words for someone else...
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The kind words are for you.
Enjoy your KNOX.
funky0308 thanks for your feedback. I feel exactly the same.. Z3 is a great device, EXCEPT for the camera. I've used Note, Note2, 3 AND 4, but never found much use for the Spen other than scribbling and drawing etc. in my free time. So I don't miss it at all. A 5.5" screen, however, would help tremendously.