Hi all
I was thinking about getting a Samsung Galaxy S II(the i9100 variant) but I found about the new Xperia S and the Xperia ion.
I've set my mind to the Xperia ion but I couldn't find an official release date for it(I've seen 30 March in some places but I don't think thats gonna happen)
Unless Samsung announces the Galaxy S 3 (or whatever its gonna be called) I'll be getting one of the Xperias. The differences between the S and the ion are not so big, so my question is, should i wait for the ion to come out or should I just get the S.
Any opinion will be appreciated.
BTW I'm currently in the US, so i need a North American release date/links etc.
Ion released is due to Q2.The Xperia S isn't already on official stores yet (I think, such as Amazon, Best Buy, Sony Style, etc). But you can get it on eBay.
Personally, I am not from US, so... But I like S more, due the screen size fit my small hands and the design, in my opinion is way more beautiful. But, in the end, it's up to you.
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My Dad has and Xperia S and I know a few people with a SGSII, In my opinion the Xperia S is Just as quick if not faster, and has a great screen and camera... Just wait until the ROMS are released and It'll fly.
CoSaWa said:
My Dad has and Xperia S and I know a few people with a SGSII, In my opinion the Xperia S is Just as quick if not faster, and has a great screen and camera... Just wait until the ROMS are released and It'll fly.
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It's good to hear from people who actually used the phone, I was going to place an order for the Xperia S, i just didn't want to regret that after ion comes out. And if its as quick as the S II, its good for me. I'll probably go with the Xperia S if they don't announce an exact release date for the ion soon.
This topic can be closed/locked now, I placed an order on a Xperia S.
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redragon95 said:
This topic can be closed/locked now, I placed an order on a Xperia S.
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Good choise choosing Xperia S over GSII. I am an Xperia fan and currently using Arc S and it's really fast especially with customs ROMs and tweaks, I am waiting for the release of Ion to buy it. it's simply beautifull and stylish. Xperia UIs are great.
Ok so I made this thread just to get feed back and basically advice as to which phone I should get. I currently have an iphone 5s and having it was cool and everything but I def. miss the android side of things (not sure why iphones are so much more popular either honestly) and was thinking on getting the Z2 or the one plus. However I've been told that experia devices are a little tougher to root and flash custom roms on. Also Im not sure as to how much support experia devices would have as far as roms kernels and such. What do you guys think?
I'd go onePlus One. MUCH cheaper, stronger raw specs and CM 11s. Can't go wrong with that.
First of all , It is Xperia not Experia
And you should probably get the Xperia Z2
I am not saying that the Xperia Z2 is better but it is because The OnePlus One is only available through an invite system. This means that only people who received an invitation from one of their friends or from OnePlus will be able to buy the device. After buying the device, you will receive a number of invitations that you can send to friends interested in the OnePlus One.
Plus I think accessories and maintenance for the Xperia Z2 will always be much easier to find. so yup Go for the Xperia Z2.
Hello Guys, Many of us complian about we dont know any Informations yet about an Android 4.3 update.
Today i looked on PTCRB (still nothing new) ,but i looked up the PTCRB page about the XPERIA U (predecessor of the XPERIA L). And it got tons of Certified updates (Most of them are Minor Updates but there are two Major Updates listed) , so i think we should get more than these 6 Updates :angel:
I Have attached an Image about the 2 PTCRB Pages
What do you think about my thoughts let me know !
-sorry for my english
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Hello Guys, Many of us complian about we dont know any Informations yet about an Android 4.3 update.
Today i looked on PTCRB (still nothing new) ,but i looked up the PTCRB page about the XPERIA U (predecessor of the XPERIA L). And it got tons of Certified updates (Most of them are Minor Updates but there are two Major Updates listed) , so i think we should get more than these 6 Updates :angel:
I Have attached an Image about the 2 PTCRB Pages
What do you think about my thoughts let me know !
-sorry for my english
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The updates are pretty poor and communication from Sony is awful. Why they choose to update Xperia M (underspec'd compared to the L) is beyond me. But then again, they released 4.4 ASOP for L. Maybe if they release a fully functional generic 4.4 ASOP that would heal the wound
honglong said:
The updates are pretty poor and communication from Sony is awful. Why they choose to update Xperia M (underspec'd compared to the L) is beyond me. But then again, they released 4.4 ASOP for L. Maybe if they release a fully functional generic 4.4 ASOP that would heal the wound
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That i dont Understand too, the Xperia M is in every point a much worser Phone than our XPERIA L , why give Sony it an update , we only have an Buggy vesion of 4.2 .B ut your point sounds interresting, Almost all devices from Sony that had become AOSP (except xperia s), became the Update to the Specific
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XperiaAwesome2000 said:
That i dont Understand too, the Xperia M is in every point a much worser Phone than our XPERIA L , why give Sony it an update , we only have an Buggy vesion of 4.2 .B ut your point sounds interresting, Almost all devices from Sony that had become AOSP (except xperia s), became the Update to the Specific
Version from Sony
-Sorry for My English
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I would be happy with 4.4 ASOP without any Sony Junk if Sony can't be bothered to release 4.3
It's not great customer service and it means a very good phone won't become updated and I won't buy Sony again. If they plan to update say so, if it's end of life. Say so.
I have a feeling they will do nothing, wait till 18 months support period has expired then drop it.
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I would be happy with 4.4 ASOP without any Sony Junk if Sony can't be bothered to release 4.3
It's not great customer service and it means a very good phone won't become updated and I won't buy Sony again. If they plan to update say so, if it's end of life. Say so.
I have a feeling they will do nothing, wait till 18 months support period has expired then drop it.
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Our phone had been added to the AOSP project months ago but only for unlocked bootloaders, and i hope sony will do something and update our because we spent more money on a better phone and we only get 4.2 if we dont get 4.3/4.4 that would be silly
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4.4 ASOP for L.
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Could you explain what that is? Is it some official kitkat rom for xperia l?
XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Our phone had been added to the AOSP project months ago but only for unlocked bootloaders, and i hope sony will do something and update our because we spent more money on a better phone and we only get 4.2 if we dont get 4.3/4.4 that would be silly
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Actually I am almost sure for two things:
Sorry won't release anything more for that expensive brick, because it looks for me that there is more hardware issues and maybe lack of drivers from Qualcomm. Also keep in mind crappy cameras (both of them are awful), totally bad touchscreen and most awful brand - they became more "stay away brand" than chinese ZTE and Huawei brands, which these days here are considered as OK here ...
Personally my Xperia L would not survive to the end of warranty - either it will be sold on half of it's price or will be killed - today it flied ~6 times to the floor,because 9 times sound got routed to earpiece instead of speaker.
Generally this Sony are scammers these days and should not be trusted for anything. Btw this was my last product from Sony - they are gone in my blacklist like HP and Nokia.... got very bad experience with these brands and will never come back to them.
id202 said:
Actually I am almost sure for two things:
Sorry won't release anything more for that expensive brick, because it looks for me that there is more hardware issues and maybe lack of drivers from Qualcomm. Also keep in mind crappy cameras (both of them are awful), totally bad touchscreen and most awful brand - they became more "stay away brand" than chinese ZTE and Huawei brands, which these days here are considered as OK here ...
Personally my Xperia L would not survive to the end of warranty - either it will be sold on half of it's price or will be killed - today it flied ~6 times to the floor,because 9 times sound got routed to earpiece instead of speaker.
Generally this Sony are scammers these days and should not be trusted for anything. Btw this was my last product from Sony - they are gone in my blacklist like HP and Nokia.... got very bad experience with these brands and will never come back to them.
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Okay at the Moment i have no issues with the camera and the Touchscreen maybe i have chosen a good modell of the L, but you are right if Sony wouldnt make updates fort this phone they would become a stay away brand and at the moment Sony must work harder on Updates because they have not much money at the time and that is the Problem of Sony they release too much phones and gave no Updates other brands like Samsung gave the S2 4.1 and at this time the s2 was 2 years old and the arc s Sonys Flagship at the Time never saw 4.1
PS I really like Sony they made good and Products but Support on the Phones they make is really bad
I'll explain you some facts!
If you look at xperia U and Xperia L, they both were updated for about a year. The number of updates for xperia U only means, developers were lazy to fix bugs so they had to push more small patches to fix the bugs!
If you still want to question, xperia L has a month left in comparison to xperia U, I'll like you not to overlook x.x.x.17 update which isn't mentioned in the image!
About xperia M got 4.3 and not xperia L, the reason is that xperia M was released few months after xperia L; thus the support for one year meant, it had to be updated till 4.3 but xperia L had completed its one year when the time to update lower end devices came!
If you are wondering, if we would get 4.4 or 4.3 , it is highly UNLIKELY! Don't put your hopes too high!
The reason why source for 4.4 was released, it was only to shut mouth of xperia L owners so it could seem, Sony is working on 4.4 for xperia L and in the mean time, the time frame of one year of update could pass! 4.4 was supposingly in works for xperia L until, Sony decided to ditch it and released buggy 4.4 so it could work on new devices which were released by Sony like M2, T3 etc.
I hope this enlightenment would be enough for you all!
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So the dream is dead. There is no hope for the humanity after all.
Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
I Think you all are right sony is an A++hole when it comes to updates but a little chance is there and i hope sony is doing something at the moment
Lazynestor said:
Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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Will there be unofficial android L for experia L? I am afraid of losing my warranty however.
Lazynestor said:
Its hopeless waiting for 4.3......i think sony wont even update xperia L...... The best way is to unlock bootloader, root and install a new rom....
M done waiting!!!!!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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The problem, in my opinion, is that there are tons of people which cannot unlock their bootloader (like me) due to carrier restrictions. We are stuck with stock pretty much forever. And it sucks.
True Story
Emannxx said:
The problem, in my opinion, is that there are tons of people which cannot unlock their bootloader (like me) due to carrier restrictions. We are stuck with stock pretty much forever. And it sucks.
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True ****in story. I spent a ****load of money on this rock and now i cant even flash a custom decent rom, not to talk about the ****tiest stock kernel i've seen in a phone. **** you Sony, **** you carriers and **** you overpriced phones. I bough this for 200 euros and my carrier is asking me 50 more to unlock the carrier status so that i could be able to go to sony and unlock the bootloader. Tell me if this isnt a joke! And remember, its not 250 bucks, its 250 euros, about 340 bucks! WTF???
With this ammount of money i should have bought a nexus 5 and i wouldnt have to care about this problems. never buying a phone in my country again.
Good luck for you guys and i wish the best to all unlocked bootloader. Im seriously thinking about selling my phone if i dont get a proper update.
If sony can afford making phones, they should also be able to give them proper technical support...
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True ****in story. I spent a ****load of money on this rock and now i cant even flash a custom decent rom, not to talk about the ****tiest stock kernel i've seen in a phone. **** you Sony, **** you carriers and **** you overpriced phones. I bough this for 200 euros and my carrier is asking me 50 more to unlock the carrier status so that i could be able to go to sony and unlock the bootloader. Tell me if this isnt a joke! And remember, its not 250 bucks, its 250 euros, about 340 bucks! WTF???
With this ammount of money i should have bought a nexus 5 and i wouldnt have to care about this problems. never buying a phone in my country again.
Good luck for you guys and i wish the best to all unlocked bootloader. Im seriously thinking about selling my phone if i dont get a proper update.
If sony can afford making phones, they should also be able to give them proper technical support...
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Have you contacted Sony and signed the petition?
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RabbiShe said:
Will there be unofficial android L for experia L? I am afraid of losing my warranty however.
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Hell no. We haven't even got 4.3 yet!
BDW there roms for looked bootloader!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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BDW there roms for looked bootloader!!
Please do hit the 10xxx button!!!
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Yeha but they all are based on Stock and Stock is not that good
I dont say the roms based on Stock are bad but the Stock 4.2.2 is too buggy
Today's answer from Sorry mobile Bulgaria
Boys and girls (of course!)
Today I have contacted Sorry mobile Bulgaria regarding bug fixing update (I did not pretend for 4.3 or 4.4 - just a bug fixing update, whatever version of Android they want to release) and there was short answer - There is no known date from Sony mobile for update of Xperia L, and there is no known update to come. Rest of message was their usual "Sorry for you troubles, please repair via SUS" and other blah-blah stuff.
Whole Question and answer is in txt file in attachment. If you want to know whole question and answer - feel free to use Google/Bing translate services from Bulgarian....
XperiaAwesome2000 said:
Okay at the Moment i have no issues with the camera and the Touchscreen maybe i have chosen a good modell of the L, but you are right if Sony wouldnt make updates fort this phone they would become a stay away brand and at the moment Sony must work harder on Updates because they have not much money at the time and that is the Problem of Sony they release too much phones and gave no Updates other brands like Samsung gave the S2 4.1 and at this time the s2 was 2 years old and the arc s Sonys Flagship at the Time never saw 4.1
PS I really like Sony they made good and Products but Support on the Phones they make is really bad
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If they produce 3 phones in year and focus on their support for a longer time than release date + 3 months, probably they would get more users, respect from them and of course - more profit. With their policy to release bunch of garbage every month, they won't get any new customers and they are already on path to lose their old customers. I am personally one of big count of users which will never come back to SoRRy - there is simple explanation: New Xperia L on store are sold for 345BGN without contract, Xperia L sold on second hand sites with ~1 year and more warranty left is sold at 180-200BGN. My 4 years old HTC Desire on same second hand sites costs 100-180BGN depending on how it looks. BGN - stands fro New Bulgarian Leva (I am Bulgarian).
Hello, I'm new to XDA...I own a Z3v and I love it! Build, Camera, etc...I have the Google Launcher running over the Sony skin (I prefer Google) I was going to get a Nexus, but it was the glass front and back that made me choose the Z3v. Anyway... Does anyone have any info regarding a lollipop update? I know it's not Sony that's holding back. The next build of Android is out and I don't even have lollipop yet.
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Hello, I'm new to XDA...I own a Z3v and I love it! Build, Camera, etc...I have the Google Launcher running over the Sony skin (I prefer Google) I was going to get a Nexus, but it was the glass front and back that made me choose the Z3v. Anyway... Does anyone have any info regarding a lollipop update? I know it's not Sony that's holding back. The next build of Android is out and I don't even have lollipop yet.
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I would look for it sometime towards the end of Summer. Sadly Verizon is notorious for incredibly slow update roll outs.
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I would look for it sometime towards the end of Summer. Sadly Verizon is notorious for incredibly slow update roll outs.
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So I-ve never had a Sony phone . So I have a few questions I-d love answered.
Im thinking of getting the z5 ultra next month and skipping the note 5.
a) do european sony phones usually get rooted ?
b) Is Selinux set to permissive ?
c) Do you get updates in a timely fashion ?
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a) if they're being used properly, yes.
b) with SELinux mode changer, yes.
c) depends on your favorite rom developer.
Take a look at the Z2 and Z3 forums and you'll see there's lots of great stuff by some very talented dev's.
c) If you prefer stock firmwares: My Z3c and my GFs Z3 recieved updates to newer versions of android before our old note 3's. Generally sony updates the Z range of phones quite quickly
Coming from a Note Edge to Xperia. Little help needed
If you prefer stock firmwares: My Z3c and my GFs Z3 recieved updates to newer versions of android before our old note 3's. Generally sony updates the Z range of phones quite quickly
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siriom said:
So I-ve never had a Sony phone . So I have a few questions I-d love answered.
Im thinking of getting the z5 ultra next month and skipping the note 5.
a) do european sony phones usually get rooted ?
b) Is Selinux set to permissive ?
c) Do you get updates in a timely fashion ?
Thanks
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Xperia phones are most similar phones to Nexus > Easy to Unlock bootloader and lots of Dev Support & Root method
a) Yes
b) Yes
c) Yes
d) ENJOY IT
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I'm on a note edge now, my previous phone was an Xperia z1. I kinda miss it. I'm considering a z5 compact. Sometimes I like a big screen, other times I wish I had my z1. The microphone grill popped off and water got in it. I was awed by the note edge, i still like it.............. but I feel like I'd love to use a one handed device. The main thing holding me back is the snapdragon 810, if it was an 820, it would be a no brainer. Just wondering why what's your reason to upgrade as I'm in the same place. If I want a compact with an 820....I'll probably have to wait till next year this time since they generally come out every odd Xperia generation.