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[Q] Install Windows 8 on android?

Hello.
Is it possible? I mean, the Windows 8 compatible with ARM processors has been launched, well, I have a gingerbread tablet (or an big smarthphone) and I'm asking if it is possible, I think yes, but if yes, how it will be? Like on PCs, "just" install? Or like the android way: Putting right libs and bla bla bla?

Actually it is not possible. Win RT only sold with hardware. Hardware needs UEFI secure boot to run win8 rt.
Maybe some day there will be a workaround... but I won't count on that.
Sent from my Transformer Prime.

Not yet
We are not yet ready for that kind of dual booting yet. Only Oem's do right now. Windows 8 aint even out yet

Install Ubuntu on the Surface Pro

Source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-20130211/
Thanks, but no, I will keep Windows 8.

Talderon said:
Source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-20130211/
Thanks, but no, I will keep Windows 8.
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Will it work on the RT?

Twiisted said:
Will it work on the RT?
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No, Pro Only.

Talderon said:
No, Pro Only.
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NNNNNOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!:crying:

Twiisted said:
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!:crying:
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The only reason No on the RT is that you can't disable Secure Boot and you would have to find an ARM compiled version of Ubuntu.
The first reason more than anything else will keep you from doing much of anything.

Well... to give you SOME hope: http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/linux-foundation-secure-boot/
Looks like it may actually come to fruition at some point in the (near?) future.

Talderon said:
Well... to give you SOME hope: http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/11/linux-foundation-secure-boot/
Looks like it may actually come to fruition at some point in the (near?) future.
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This is great news considering Ubuntu is already being compiled for ARM devices. e.g. Their new mobile operating system.
Once it drops, it should only be a matter of time before someone cooks it up for the RT... :fingers-crossed:

Twiisted said:
This is great news considering Ubuntu is already being compiled for ARM devices. e.g. Their new mobile operating system.
Once it drops, it should only be a matter of time before someone cooks it up for the RT... :fingers-crossed:
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Well, at least there is SOME light at the end of the tunnel.

Just because a secure boot-compatible segnature is present doesn't mean it will work; there's no way to add your own signing keys to the Surface RT's SB certificate store, so unless your Linux installer is either signed by MS or by another authority that is trusted out of the box, it still won't work.
Also, there's a big difference between recompiling a user-mode application for ARM and recompiling an entire OS. You need a compatible board support package for your processor and hardware. It's possible (and there are already Linux images that run on the Tegra3) but it's not trivial.

GoodDayToDie said:
Just because a secure boot-compatible segnature is present doesn't mean it will work; there's no way to add your own signing keys to the Surface RT's SB certificate store, so unless your Linux installer is either signed by MS or by another authority that is trusted out of the box, it still won't work.
Also, there's a big difference between recompiling a user-mode application for ARM and recompiling an entire OS. You need a compatible board support package for your processor and hardware. It's possible (and there are already Linux images that run on the Tegra3) but it's not trivial.
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Way to ruin my dream :/

Twiisted said:
Ubuntu is already being compiled for ARM devices. e.g. Their new mobile operating system.
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Full ubuntu is already available on ARM. Not just their new mobile OS.

Ubuntu on Surface :crying:
Buy a TF300

Caramel said:
Ubuntu on Surface :crying:
Buy a TF300
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I dont see the problem with it tbh. The surface is a genuinely nice piece of hardware, its just some people dont like windows 8.
Now a hackintosh on the surface would be very interesting albeit incredibly unlikely.
I wonder if one of the various android x86 projects would consider a surface pro version.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
I dont see the problem with it tbh. The surface is a genuinely nice piece of hardware, its just some people dont like windows 8.
Now a hackintosh on the surface would be very interesting albeit incredibly unlikely.
I wonder if one of the various android x86 projects would consider a surface pro version.
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I rather wait for windows android to release stable versions. I don't want to reboot and lost true multitasking just to play a mobile game.
Sent from my U9200

Surface pro with Mountain lion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icPMg_qkSRs

looks like a fair bit of input latency there, very similar to what I see with remote desktop as opposed to running on the machine. Either that or poor drivers. Either one is possible

or the fact ml isn't supposed to run touchscreen so its not optimised....?

Trig0r said:
or the fact ml isn't supposed to run touchscreen so its not optimised....?
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I would class that under poor driver support which I already said....
OSX does support touchscreen anyway.

my surface pro cannot boot from Windows 7 and Linux USBs, it still proceeds to windows 8. (im trying to put windows 7 on it or Linux)
but I can on my Recovery USB. i'm using the down volume method, and tried the advance boot thingy and chose USB method.
So i doubted if my win7 and linux usbs are not bootable, but they both boot well on my other pc.
I also have that EFI boot disabled. im not exactly a noob with tweaks and software installation, i just dont know why my surface pro wont accept those bootable usbs so i can start installing them.
please help.

That's great and all, but I can't find the Marvell drivers for ubuntu at all..

ubuntu on surface on vivo tab?

Any one know is it possible to install ubuntu for tablets on Surface or Asus vivo tab? Any work in this direction?

are we talking ARM or x86. Both the surface and vivotab are available in either version.
For the ARM tablets (surface RT and vivotab RT) then no.
For the x86 tablets, still no as ubuntu for tablets is for ARM at this moment in time. It could probably be recompiled for x86 though. Also you already have access to full ubuntu anyway.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
are we talking ARM or x86. Both the surface and vivotab are available in either version.
For the ARM tablets (surface RT and vivotab RT) then no.
For the x86 tablets, still no as ubuntu for tablets is for ARM at this moment in time. It could probably be recompiled for x86 though. Also you already have access to full ubuntu anyway.
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Hi SixSixSevenSeven
Not that I know the answer.
But you say the ARM version of ubuntu will not work on Surface RT.
Can you please explain why this will not work?

phuongpham said:
Hi SixSixSevenSeven
Not that I know the answer.
But you say the ARM version of ubuntu will not work on Surface RT.
Can you please explain why this will not work?
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UEFI secure boot and driver signing.
The surface has been locked down so it will only boot into code signed by microsoft. Ubuntu is not signed by microsoft so will not boot.
Maybe one day someone will find a workaround hack. When that day comes you may then be able to have ubuntu on the Surface RT. Right now though it is not possible to run anything other than Windows RT. It might take months or even years before someone finds an exploit that we can use or it might never happen. If thats what you want to do on your device then maybe the surface RT isnt for you.
The surface pro (intel core i5 which is an x86 chip) however can have its secure boot disabled in the control panel and does not need driver signing. Being a regular x86 device the pro is not actually any different from any other laptop or desktop you have bought and provided with either a bootable USB stick or a USB optical drive will run the full version of ubuntu.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
UEFI secure boot and driver signing.
The surface has been locked down so it will only boot into code signed by microsoft. Ubuntu is not signed by microsoft so will not boot.
Maybe one day someone will find a workaround hack. When that day comes you may then be able to have ubuntu on the Surface RT. Right now though it is not possible to run anything other than Windows RT. It might take months or even years before someone finds an exploit that we can use or it might never happen. If thats what you want to do on your device then maybe the surface RT isnt for you.
The surface pro (intel core i5 which is an x86 chip) however can have its secure boot disabled in the control panel and does not need driver signing. Being a regular x86 device the pro is not actually any different from any other laptop or desktop you have bought and provided with either a bootable USB stick or a USB optical drive will run the full version of ubuntu.
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Thanks for your feedback :good:
I think this answer make it clear for at lease me

[Q] bcmon support for the oneplus one?

when and how will bcmon support come to the oneplus one (bacon) I need to be able to use Reaver for Android, and AircrackGUI for pentesting. If no one is willing to develop for bcmon for this device can someone tell me how i can get bcmon working or perhaps other alternative and recommended pentesting software for android in general.

help
rndmboyz3 said:
when and how will bcmon support come to the oneplus one (bacon) I need to be able to use Reaver for Android, and AircrackGUI for pentesting. If no one is willing to develop for bcmon for this device can someone tell me how i can get bcmon working or perhaps other alternative and recommended pentesting software for android in general.
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someone please respond preferably a developer familiar with bcmon and android pentesting.

I, too, am highly interested in this. I have installed the application but it says something about firmware not detected. I am rooted.
Sent via quantum entanglement, focused through my OnePlus One.

I was looking into this and you must have a Broadcom chipset in the phone for bcmon to work. If the OPO does not have a Broadcom chipset the bcmon will never work.
So the question is, does the OPO have a Broadcom chipset? If so then maybe an email off to the bcmon devs may get support started.

butro said:
I was looking into this and you must have a Broadcom chipset in the phone for bcmon to work. If the OPO does not have a Broadcom chipset the bcmon will never work.
So the question is, does the OPO have a Broadcom chipset? If so then maybe an email off to the bcmon devs may get support started.
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I seen this too, but through my searching I couldn't find any information on the chipset in the opo.
Sent via quantum entanglement, focused through my OnePlus One.

@beastlykings... sorry for the OT here, but you can't root using the method shown in your link anymore after updating to the new OTA...

I would also love to see a way to get the network chip into monitor mode, but it's not a broadcom, so the bcmon tool won't work,
However maybe there is a different way?

dansou901 said:
@beastlykings... sorry for the OT here, but you can't root using the method shown in your link anymore after updating to the new OTA...
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Ouch sorry, I knew that, I will change it ASAP.
Sent via quantum entanglement, focused through my OnePlus One.

butro said:
So the question is, does the OPO have a Broadcom chipset? If so then maybe an email off to the bcmon devs may get support started.
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According to teardowns, no. It has a Qualcomm WCN3680 chipset including the Wifi controller supported by a Skyworks 85709-11 "frontend chip" (educated guess: amplifier and signal noise handling)

usb otg cable and usb wifi dongle?
d4fseeker said:
According to teardowns, no. It has a Qualcomm WCN3680 chipset including the Wifi controller supported by a Skyworks 85709-11 "frontend chip" (educated guess: amplifier and signal noise handling)
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ok guys i've been looking around and apparently the only way to get monitor mode working for this device is to use a usb otg cable connected to an external wifi card that actually supports monitor mode the full details are here: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/kali-linux.58134/page-2 ugh i dont want to do all that just for some basic pentesting functionality hopefully someone can get monitor mode working natively on the oneplus one's stock wifi chipset. at least we got multirom for the oneplus one

rndmboyz3 said:
ok guys i've been looking around and apparently the only way to get monitor mode working for this device is to use a usb otg cable connected to an external wifi card that actually supports monitor mode the full details are here: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/kali-linux.58134/page-2 ugh i dont want to do all that just for some basic pentesting functionality hopefully someone can get monitor mode working natively on the oneplus one's stock wifi chipset. at least we got multirom for the oneplus one
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maybe we can discuss all other methods of pentesting on our oneplus one's? I personally use the dsploit nightlies quite often, so what are your penetration testing/hacking solutions for this phone?

Miracast reciever?

Heya
I'm pretty interested in a miracast reciever for Windows RT. I know the APIs are already there, but it seems like there is no nativ windows rt app in the store. So do you guys know of another app that works?
AirServer could be a solution, but it works with QT5 and that hasn't been ported to RT yet, as far as I know.

Insignificant said:
Heya
I'm pretty interested in a miracast reciever for Windows RT. I know the APIs are already there, but it seems like there is no nativ windows rt app in the store. So do you guys know of another app that works?
AirServer could be a solution, but it works with QT5 and that hasn't been ported to RT yet, as far as I know.
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As far as I know, I do not believe you can stream a device through miracast to the RT device's screen. You are right that the APIs are there, but I don't know if RT is advanced enough to handle that.

Qiangong2 said:
As far as I know, I do not believe you can stream a device through miracast to the RT device's screen. You are right that the APIs are there, but I don't know if RT is advanced enough to handle that.
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I'm pretty sure it would work fine with the Surface 2 and the Lumia 2520. Probably not with the other devices, because they don't support Miracast at all.