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So I've pretty much replaced my laptop with my transformer. Yea my laptop has a 17 inch screen, but to be honest with you its so big I never wanted to take it anywhere! Isn't a laptop supposed to be PORTABLE? I feel like I can (and should) take the TF everywhere. It seems tiny when docked, but just right when used as a tablet.
I love it.
The only thing stopping me from selling my laptop at this point is that I need to burn CD's occasionally. Is there any app out there that can access an external burner so that I can make CD's from music I have stored on my external drive?
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Probably more a matter of time, at least if there's interest in it, but might be a long time. Didn't Honeycomb just add USB host support? I don't think it would've been possible before that.
javroch said:
Probably more a matter of time, at least if there's interest in it, but might be a long time. Didn't Honeycomb just add USB host support? I don't think it would've been possible before that.
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You woukd think this would be simple enough if we had usb host. Oh how I wish I was a dev.
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seh6183 said:
You woukd think this would be simple enough if we had usb host. Oh how I wish I was a dev.
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Not necessarily at all, not all manufacturers provide Linux drivers for their hardware (Android is linux underneath it all). As well, I'm not sure exactly how Linux drivers work, but each CD burner might need their own set of drivers
If the iso drivers are in the kernel, the system will know about cd/dvd disks and drives. The issues is a program to do the burning.
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If the iso drivers are in the kernel, the system will know about cd/dvd disks and drives. The issues is a program to do the burning.
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So I plugged in my external DVD writer, and the kernel currently is not reconigzing it.
So that is step 1, someone adding the drivers into the kernel.
After that, it is simly a matter of re-building cdrecorder and mkisofs for an ARM target and writing a little UI on top of it.
brunes said:
So I plugged in my external DVD writer, and the kernel currently is not reconigzing it.
So that is step 1, someone adding the drivers into the kernel.
After that, it is simly a matter of re-building cdrecorder and mkisofs for an ARM target and writing a little UI on top of it.
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Lets contact some dev's who might know how to do this! I can message the Dev for the prime rom. He may be able to point us in the right direction.
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Messaged him just now.
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I would dust the laptop back off......There are not enough devs or support for at least another 2 yrs to have a bug free Android OS. Also you have the first model of about 15 major tabs in the next 2 yrs! Just because it has a docking station means nothing. Don't get me wrong i love Android.....but leaving windows 7 and coming up 8????? Not to mention all the bugs because its a "beta" product. Actually i wouldn't even call this Alpha..Android OS should of release a GOOGLE laptop first with all the correct hardware specs and almost bug free before letting anyone put there OS on a tablet and sell it...Every Honeycomb tablet that has been made has issues. And its the hardware not being fully compatible.
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I would dust the laptop back off......There are not enough devs or support for at least another 2 yrs to have a bug free Android OS. Also you have the first model of about 15 major tabs in the next 2 yrs! Just because it has a docking station means nothing. Don't get me wrong i love Android.....but leaving windows 7 and coming up 8????? Not to mention all the bugs because its a "beta" product. Actually i wouldn't even call this Alpha..Android OS should of release a GOOGLE laptop first with all the correct hardware specs and almost bug free before letting anyone put there OS on a tablet and sell it...Every Honeycomb tablet that has been made has issues. And its the hardware not being fully compatible.
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I think you are way over thinking this.
It wouldn't take much to make android completely replace a full size os.
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dallastx said:
I would dust the laptop back off......There are not enough devs or support for at least another 2 yrs to have a bug free Android OS. Also you have the first model of about 15 major tabs in the next 2 yrs! Just because it has a docking station means nothing. Don't get me wrong i love Android.....but leaving windows 7 and coming up 8????? Not to mention all the bugs because its a "beta" product. Actually i wouldn't even call this Alpha..Android OS should of release a GOOGLE laptop first with all the correct hardware specs and almost bug free before letting anyone put there OS on a tablet and sell it...Every Honeycomb tablet that has been made has issues. And its the hardware not being fully compatible.
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If you replaced android with another operating system on your post, that can apply to any OS system on the planet. Be it windows, osx, Linux or what ever a company puts out. Not one OS or hardware is immune. Perfect software only happens when it's on the drawing board. The longer android is out the better it gets..but honeycomb has been out a very short time and is only on 5 percent of the devices running google OS. There are more then enough developers for it.
I'm looking for an external dvd burner to work with the TF also. Seems like a lot of TF owners are looking too. Hopefully someone with xda will develop the software...
Not exactly what you want but it might help
Check out this product.....It adds an extra step and it would be kinda kludgy at best.......It is a standalone cd burner.
http://www.cyberguys.com/product-details/?productid=11177
They also have a DVD burner. There may be others out there as well. I have been wanting this as well and don't really want to spend extra to get the capability right now at least.
Awesome! Definitely a solid solution. And a great idea in general! Thanks for the info
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Install Ubuntu, install cd burning software, profit.
brando56894 said:
Install Ubuntu, install cd burning software, profit.
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Get the trackpad drivers working, wifi UI up and running, sound, hdmi audio, and the other 1000 not yet working things running in ubuntu then yeah, sure, profit.
DeNiMuLiC said:
Get the trackpad drivers working, wifi UI up and running, sound, hdmi audio, and the other 1000 not yet working things running in ubuntu then yeah, sure, profit.
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Lol
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DeNiMuLiC said:
Get the trackpad drivers working, wifi UI up and running, sound, hdmi audio, and the other 1000 not yet working things running in ubuntu then yeah, sure, profit.
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technically you don't need any of those things you listed to burn a cd in linux, all you need is the command line.
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technically you don't need any of those things you listed to burn a cd in linux, all you need is the command line.
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I don't think he's looking to reboot into a full-blown Ubuntu environment (where nothing else works) just to burn a DVD... The whole point of this thread is to get Android-native tools to do the burning - not setup some half-working OS to do the task...
I don't see what the Unix "cdrecord" and "mkisofs" utilities can't be ported over to Android. Although, I don't have the skills to do that, so maybe it's not such a trivial task...
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seriously dude?? This thread is almost two years old. Stop necromancing.
This is not a question of how to get it working, but rather why? Why would you want Linux in stead of Android? I've been a Windows person since well... birth I guess, never really used Mac or Linux. Can someone give me a reason why the average Angry Birds playing Android enthusiast would want Linux on their tablet?
Android is based upon Linux. Just saying.
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Here are my inputs to your linux questions.
I would prefer it because you have so much more freedom in what you can do with the tablet in every aspect.
Android is better than IOS from that point of view, but the apps isn't as good as ordinary programs.
In linux i could have use of GIMP, Openoffice or the fully fledged libreoffice. I can mount whatever device i want in whatever format i want.
In linux im not restricted to the drivers Asus provides for 3G sticks or anything else for that matter.
The only drawback would be games, but sence i'm not a gamer any longer i don't care about games so much. Not that Linux don't have good games for it. More and more are coming, Valve comitted themselfs recently to Linux.
I like the stability of Linux, and it is always developed and i don't have to wait for Asus to provide for the latest builds of kernels.
In linux i would have drivers for my printer in a better way than in android or IOS.
I don't like the restrictions in android, with me voiding my warrantys or risking of bricking my device trying to bypass that restrictions for costumizing a device that i own. I like the idea Ubuntu is bringing in on having Linux side by side with Android, and enjoy the best of both worlds.
The road almost every hardwaremaker is taking is not god at all, they sell a device that they don't maintain for so many software cycles in development, and then you are forced to buy a new one if you want the latest software. On top of that all manufactures lock you down to what you have by locking the bootloaders, thats pure evil. Its like you buying a new car and GM locks 2 of the 5 gears so you cant use them.
I love the infinity, but it could be so mutch better releasing the full potential with linux on it.
Thats my input to the discussion, hope it clear things out for you.
Best regards
Mackis
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A window manager and X server with multi head out.
Totaly agree, that would be in a perfect world!
GaryParr said:
A window manager and X server with multi head out.
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Do you know if Tegra 3 can do multi-head?
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Do you know if Tegra 3 can do multi-head?
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I'm going to go with a "yes" on this one since Android is capable of sending 2 different displays currently. Think about HDMI hooked up and watching YouTube... full screen video on one device while the YouTube app remains active on the other. Unless there is some other trickery going on here, that would indicate different display channels.
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I'm going to go with a "yes" on this one since Android is capable of sending 2 different displays currently. Think about HDMI hooked up and watching YouTube... full screen video on one device while the YouTube app remains active on the other. Unless there is some other trickery going on here, that would indicate different display channels.
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I now had a look at the documentation of Linux for Tegra, and it says: "Dual display (LVDS+HDMI): Mirror mode, Extended mode". This should confirm that with the right software we should be able to get a dual display desktop.
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I now had a look at the documentation of Linux for Tegra, and it says: "Dual display (LVDS+HDMI): Mirror mode, Extended mode". This should confirm that with the right software we should be able to get a dual display desktop.
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Now we just need to dig through the Prime forums for more information on how people have managed to load a Linux ARM distribution with dual boot and I can finally get rid of my laptop.
here is a link to a person who has done it on a tf201
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sK_4cXHnyss
Mackis said:
here is a link to a person who has done it on a tf201
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sK_4cXHnyss
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The XDA thread for that is here but from what I can gather, the original developer is currently focused on other things and the most recent images are not much beyond a POC / beta quality. I did some research into Plasma Active, but it seems no one has done much work on any ARM devices past Tegra 2. I'm beginnig to think the best option for someone who wants a touch-enabled transformer with Linux is to wait for the AiO and then replace Wn8.
I don't know if this will work but I found this in the wiki section about how to install ubuntu. Its not for the TF700 but I'm hoping it can be adapted to work. I think I might try this sometime after I get my desktop set up with ubuntu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Pad_Transformer/How_to_install_Ubuntu
Mackis said:
Here are my inputs to your linux questions.
I would prefer it because you have so much more freedom in what you can do with the tablet in every aspect.
Android is better than IOS from that point of view, but the apps isn't as good as ordinary programs.
In linux i could have use of GIMP, Openoffice or the fully fledged libreoffice. I can mount whatever device i want in whatever format i want.
In linux im not restricted to the drivers Asus provides for 3G sticks or anything else for that matter.
The only drawback would be games, but sence i'm not a gamer any longer i don't care about games so much. Not that Linux don't have good games for it. More and more are coming, Valve comitted themselfs recently to Linux.
I like the stability of Linux, and it is always developed and i don't have to wait for Asus to provide for the latest builds of kernels.
In linux i would have drivers for my printer in a better way than in android or IOS.
I don't like the restrictions in android, with me voiding my warrantys or risking of bricking my device trying to bypass that restrictions for costumizing a device that i own. I like the idea Ubuntu is bringing in on having Linux side by side with Android, and enjoy the best of both worlds.
The road almost every hardwaremaker is taking is not god at all, they sell a device that they don't maintain for so many software cycles in development, and then you are forced to buy a new one if you want the latest software. On top of that all manufactures lock you down to what you have by locking the bootloaders, thats pure evil. Its like you buying a new car and GM locks 2 of the 5 gears so you cant use them.
I love the infinity, but it could be so mutch better releasing the full potential with linux on it.
Thats my input to the discussion, hope it clear things out for you.
Best regards
Mackis
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Thank you very much... I've now actually tried Ubuntu and I must say... it's pretty darn awesome, a dualboot between the two OS's would be amazing!
bhambalek said:
Android is based upon Linux. Just saying.
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Yes and Windows 7 still probably has some parts of DOS burried deep within it, Android originally did use linux's kernel, but in just about every other way it is completely different. Try it if you haven't.
Android still does use Linux kernels. uname -a on the command line is your friend.
The Android kernels are modified desktop kernels, but still Linux kernels.
What I don't understand is why these devices come without root permission. And why hardware providers aren't allowing/using the open source community to do more development. I have no problem with Google leading the development direction, in a manner similar to what Linus does with Desktop Linux.
As far as I am concerned, the state of JB is dreadful.
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What I don't understand is why these devices come without root permission.
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Because they can get away with it. The average customer doesn't care and just wants a device that works. But you also see that even root permission is still not enough as long as there are things that take away control over our own devices like locked bootloaders with signature checks and "secure boot". Not a good future for free and open source software.
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why hardware providers aren't allowing/using the open source community to do more development.
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Because that already failed for Nokia - remember Maemo/Meego/Tizen/whatever they will call it next week? At least everybody can write open source apps for Android and even upload them to the "official" market without jumping through hoops - something that is neither possible with iOS nor with Windows RT.
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I have no problem with Google leading the development direction, in a manner similar to what Linus does with Desktop Linux.
As far as I am concerned, the state of JB is dreadful.
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I don't see Linus leading anything in relation to desktop Linux except the kernel. Desktop Linux is defined by Ubuntu and other desktop-centric distributions, and their success in the desktop market is ... let's say: limited - and I don't like many of their recent decisions either. While Google, with their "dreadful" (care to elaborate?) Android, has managed to take the leading position in the mobile market.
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Because they can get away with it. The average customer doesn't care and just wants a device that works. But you also see that even root permission is still not enough as long as there are things that take away control over our own devices like locked bootloaders with signature checks and "secure boot". Not a good future for free and open source software.
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I just want to toss out the notion that "because they can get away with it" is a bit cynical. Lets be honest about something here. These devices are a gold mine for exploitation. In one single device you potentially have all of your accounts, passwords, contacts, schedule and shopping list. On top of that, your device is constantly connecting to unknown networks where it could pick up any number of malicious code before returning to home base and linking back to everything behind your firewalled router. You are correct that the average user just "wants a device that works" but more importantly, they want a device that will not cause secuity problems and give the world open access to their credit scores and bank accounts. How quick is the Android fan community to jump on news of the latest iPhone security breach? I'm not saying root should be impossible or even as difficult to obtain as it sometimes is. I'm just saying that it is not part of the OS by default for reasons other than "because they can."
EDIT - Wanted to say that I'm not trying to be an arse or anything. You may very well agree with what I've just posted. It's just that there are so many "gut reactions" to things out there that we sometimes forget the rational explanations.
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These devices are a gold mine for exploitation. In one single device you potentially have all of your accounts, passwords, contacts, schedule and shopping list. On top of that, your device is constantly connecting to unknown networks where it could pick up any number of malicious code before returning to home base and linking back to everything behind your firewalled router. You are correct that the average user just "wants a device that works" but more importantly, they want a device that will not cause secuity problems and give the world open access to their credit scores and bank accounts.
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Good arguments, and I fully agree. But giving device owners the root password does not make the device any less secure (as long as the user does not do stupid things with it).
The dangerous thing are exactly the security holes that we like so much because it's the only way we can get control over our own devices.
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... as long as the user does not do stupid things with it.
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Ever work in a technical support role? It's pretty much a given.
pietpodlood said:
Thank you very much... I've now actually tried Ubuntu and I must say... it's pretty darn awesome, a dualboot between the two OS's would be amazing!
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My pleasure!
And yes i agree it would have been amazing with dualboot.
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Because they can get away with it. The average customer doesn't care and just wants a device that works. But you also see that even root permission is still not enough as long as there are things that take away control over our own devices like locked bootloaders with signature checks and "secure boot". Not a good future for free and open source software.
Because that already failed for Nokia - remember Maemo/Meego/Tizen/whatever they will call it next week? At least everybody can write open source apps for Android and even upload them to the "official" market without jumping through hoops - something that is neither possible with iOS nor with Windows RT.
I don't see Linus leading anything in relation to desktop Linux except the kernel. Desktop Linux is defined by Ubuntu and other desktop-centric distributions, and their success in the desktop market is ... let's say: limited - and I don't like many of their recent decisions either. While Google, with their "dreadful" (care to elaborate?) Android, has managed to take the leading position in the mobile market.
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I think that even on the desktop its about to change, with games coming to linux through valve (steam) i think we will se a drastic change in users changing to Linux. I have been a Linux user from 1995 and i love the development of things even though it have been taking time to come where Linux is today, i see a bright future.
I like the idea Ubuntu is bringing in that you can have linux coexist with android, once you plug the device in to a computer screen or tv screen then you can use the full potential of Linux. I'm happy for Google that they brought some competition to the mobile market that drives development. But i don't like that i buy a device i can not do what i want with by restrictions like locked bootloaders. Its my device to do what i want to, i bought it and did not steal it..... This was the first Android tablet i bought but if they don't loosen things up it might just even be the last.
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I noticed that Ubuntu Touch is build for armhf devices, how long would it take to get it to work on the Infinity?
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Zeklandia said:
I noticed that Ubuntu Touch is build for armhf devices, how long would it take to get it to work on the Infinity?
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Sooner the better. When it's availible, Ima be usin' that sh*t.
But seriously, I think it won't take long before someone gets the job done. Lets hope so.
kali113 said:
Sooner the better. When it's availible, Ima be usin' that sh*t.
But seriously, I think it won't take long before someone gets the job done. Lets hope so.
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Considering we already have Ubuntu 12.10 available for run on the TF700 I would imagine it won't take much to get Ubuntu Phone/Tablet running. I am going to give it a shot once the porting guide is released tomorrow.
I hope it'll be here soon.
but the question is, will it work with the keyboard dock?
Of course it will work. Keyboard is just another text input method, the software just needs to hide the onscreen keyboard.
Hello developers. With the arrival of the new 2014 Moto X , now is the upgrade of its flagship application , Moto Voice.
Someone is able to carry it for our One Plus? I do not understand how its possible that this application isnt made compatible with all android devices. Its useful and many want in our One. , I hope someone can bring this app.
The whole point of that feature is to make it exclusive to Motorola teasing users to switch from whatever phone they were using before to a Motorola device.
It cannot be ported because it most likely depend on certain frameworks and whatnot that are specific to Motorola. Its the same thing as you wanting to port something from TouchWiz or Blinkfeed from HTC. Just because Motorola uses the stock Android skin, don't be deceived by that.
Kinda the same thing as people wanting the OnePlus One's lock screen on other devices.
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The whole point of that feature is to make it exclusive to Motorola teasing users to switch from whatever phone they were using before to a Motorola device.
It cannot be ported because it most likely depend on certain frameworks and whatnot that are specific to Motorola. Its the same thing as you wanting to port something from TouchWiz or Blinkfeed from HTC. Just because Motorola uses the stock Android skin, don't be deceived by that.
Kinda the same thing as people wanting the OnePlus One's lock screen on other devices.
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Its true. But I wait that developers can make a "fake" Moto Voice, like Active Display, that are 2 apps like the original.
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Its true. But I wait that developers can make a "fake" Moto Voice, like Active Display, that are 2 apps like the original.
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Hey this may help. Go to Google play and type Voice Commands.
PD: Sorry for no link Im new. A thanks would be good :3
Don't ask for thanks, you get them if you deserve them. Plus, it's really not classy.
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Don't ask for thanks, you get them if you deserve them. Plus, it's really not classy.
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Okay Sorry. Btw I was asking on the non-exclusive list for an invitation code for the OPO but it doesn't seems like anyone cares
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Okay Sorry. Btw I was asking on the non-exclusive list for an invitation code for the OPO but it doesn't seems like anyone cares
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You don't just ask for an invite, you get added to the list.
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isnt the OPO supposed to have some sort of touchess controls???? Haven't they been talking about it for some time now????
it did but was never implemented
Rhodesy757 said:
isnt the OPO supposed to have some sort of touchess controls???? Haven't they been talking about it for some time now????
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perhaps will appear in later cm11s rom versions...
I just use OK Google from any where. Not really the same but helpful when driving can tell Google what to do within reason...!
I have two and trying to think of a good use for them.
i just bought a Viewsonic 10S that i have to fix first, then i too will have to find a use for it. Same kinda tablet i think. I am curious if they can run a light Linux....
Or maybe CyanogenMod? I am wondering if they might be usable as a screen for a Raspberry Pi or any of the sbc's, as i have several of those and these have the HDMI port built in, which drew me to getting the one i have. Handy screen, if it works.
Oh....i see it already can run Ubuntu....that's great to know, anyway.
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Oh....i see it already can run Ubuntu....that's great to know, anyway.
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where did you find the way to load ubuntu?
There is a whole comment about it....several pages, from back around 2012. It probably shows below this one for you too.....see it? Says "Working Ubuntu...."etc
@rupe01 Thanks! But it looks like a little more than I want to spend in time and brain power...
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@rupe01 Thanks! But it looks like a little more than I want to spend in time and brain power...
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Yep, not straight forward i agree, although it may be way easier now since 10yrs+ have passed now. I may try out the VegaBean-NVFlash-RC2 first anyway.