Im new to XDA so please read this post
The galaxy tab 3 7.0 is released.Its specs are 1.2GHz Dual Core processor,7inch 1024 by 600 screen TFT,GPU is Vivante GC1000 and its running 4.1 Jelly Bean.Camera are 3.15 MP rear camera and 1.3 MP front camera and it does NOT have flash.It records at 720p.Now the GPU is fairly unknown considering the market is flooded by adreno and PowerVR GPUs.Here are some details of the GPU.
About Vivante GPU Products
Optimized for Google Android apps, Vivante's product portfolio includes performance-leading technologies in 2D/3D GPU, CPC Composition Processors, GPGPU, and vector graphics. Vivante cores leverage a unified driver architecture that is compatible with industry-standard application programming interfaces like OpenGL(R) ES 3.0, desktop OpenGL(R), OpenCL(R), OpenVG(R), Microsoft(R) DirectX(R) 11, WebGL, Google Renderscript / FilterScript, Compute, and other standard APIs. With Vivante technology, mobile devices deliver stunning, high resolution user interface graphics as well as to photos, games, business applications and more.
Robust features built into the GPU cores include:
-- World's Smallest Licensable GPU Core for OpenGL ES 3.0
-- Single/Dual/Quad/Eight GPU Configurations
-- Single Software Stack
-- Battery Optimization
-- Memory Efficiency
-- Support for Heterogeneous Platform Architecture
And some Benchmarks are added.They are compared to the tab 2 7.0.
The latest Galaxy slate comes with GPU Vivante GC 1000, which as the benchmark results confirm, is twice as capable as the PowerVR SGX540 found in the Galaxy Tab 2.So while the CPU performance is probably unchanged, besides the clock difference of 200 MHz, graphics power has seen quite some boost in the latest generation of the Samsung affordable slate.
According to the benchmark results, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 is powered by a Marvell PXA986 chipset with 1.2 GHz dual-core Cortex A9 processor. The SoC is not the most impressive in the market, but is still a significant upgrade when compared to the one powering the Galaxy Tab 2.Benchmark results are given on attachments.
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Odd thing i noticed the gpu in the tab 3 7" it preforms much better than my galaxy s3 adreno 205. cpu in the s3 crushes the tab though
How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
andreicobey said:
How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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I donno i do notice some lag on some things but i attribute most of that to the slow cpu then again my way of telling was running quadrant on my tab the fps on all the demos is double what my gs3 gets. And samsung fixes the scores they get as best they can.
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I donno i do notice some lag on some things but i attribute most of that to the slow cpu then again my way of telling was running quadrant on my tab the fps on all the demos is double what my gs3 gets. And samsung fixes the scores they get as best they can.
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Real Racing 3 and Ravenshield 2 runs really fine too!
andreicobey said:
How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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I didnt play all these games but i played NFS most wanted and it runs smoothly.I also played dead trigger and it also runs smoothly.Real racing good too.
Samsung gave an NVIDIA type GPU on it but gave a pentium type CPU on it.
Just a simple question.
Is Mali-400MP better than vivante gc1000 gpu?
same here
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How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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i don't know about other games but i'm having a same issue with in to the dead, well i thought this was gpu issue, but must be compatibility issue.
lol i was about to exchange my galaxy tab
me too
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I didnt play all these games but i played NFS most wanted and it runs smoothly.I also played dead trigger and it also runs smoothly.Real racing good too.
Samsung gave an NVIDIA type GPU on it but gave a pentium type CPU on it.
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I also run NFS games and a a few other "heavy" games with no issue.
I do find I have to clean the Ram a lot though.
On my new tab 210 run all games very fast and without errors
Gesendet von meinem SM-T210R mit Tapatalk 2
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Just a simple question.
Is Mali-400MP better than vivante gc1000 gpu?
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yes if you see that mali 400 is paired with good CPUs.but vivante doesnt get that good of a cpu.it all matters on the cpu.the cpu calculates how many FPS can it pull and the GPU just tries to pull it.if the cpu cannot calculate high FPS whats the point of a good GPU?
Bro have u tried to use Nenamark 2 to check the fps for your device? Because the mali 400mp on my galaxy tab 3 8.0 achived a average of 58 fps, which is not bad considering the price I bought this for
gameloft dungeon hunter 4
don't paly
who have succesfully played Injustice Gods Among Us on SM-T210?? mine closes in first loading screen. it unplayable
Lag on sonic dash
Hello everyone, I installed sonic dash on my sm-t210 but it lags a lot, comparing it to the p3110 or the tab 2 7.0, the tab 2 has no problem running sonic dash. Any suggestions guys? thanks..
this tab is a peace of **** sorry if you can buy it an nexus seven one have nvidia
andreicobey said:
How is your tabs handling gaming? Mine doesn't show much promise.
Into the Dead - runs fast but has stuttering issues when striding to the left or right
Heroes O&C - laggy as hell, almost unplayable (might be due to our connection though)
Turbo Racing League - lagging at some parts of the game
Minion Rush - Before reinstalling, it was a total nightmare, totally unplayable ( <10 fps). After reinstalling, the game runs much better now yet far from perfect due to frequent hiccups (lags, freezes, etc.)
SG: DeadZone - Lagging, but not as much as Heroes O&C
Plague Inc. - Game slows down (fps) as the game progresses
However, other games run fine such as:
Dead Trigger - love the smoothness of this game. Runs perfect.
2Fuse - perfect, too.
Frontline Commando: D-Day - runs ok.
Am I the only one experiencing these problems?
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is a piece o garbage ,if googlehadnt brick my nexus 7 i will happy ****ing google and mode apx :/ the tab 3 burn my hands the nexus didnt, the games run but no looks like nexus 7 the browsers are slowly all of them in nexus are better. tab 3 600mb of ram using nothing !!! if on a game and go to other game that game close for low memory in nexus i run real racing 3 and go to shadow zone or gangstar rio without problems of low memory.i hope in my **** country came evga tegra note to buy it that table have nvidia tegra 4 that is a gaming fast browser and in nexus 7 i can play gta 4 from my pc with splashtop game thd without lags in this tab i need to comform with splashtop personal ;(
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is a piece o garbage ,if googlehadnt brick my nexus 7 i will happy ****ing google and mode apx :/ the tab 3 burn my hands the nexus didnt, the games run but no looks like nexus 7 the browsers are slowly all of them in nexus are better. tab 3 600mb of ram using nothing !!! if on a game and go to other game that game close for low memory in nexus i run real racing 3 and go to shadow zone or gangstar rio without problems of low memory.i hope in my **** country came evga tegra note to buy it that table have nvidia tegra 4 that is a gaming fast browser and in nexus 7 i can play gta 4 from my pc with splashtop game thd without lags in this tab i need to comform with splashtop personal ;(
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Wa are ya crying sa loud ?
for that i cry so loud ;(
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Wa are ya crying sa loud ?
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hehe cause a week a go i had a nexus 7 and googleupgraded with low battery and the procees of bootloader dont finish cause no battery but i didnt authorice to google for upgrade .i left my nexus in my bed and when i back from work my nexus dont power on so is in apx mode google giveme another but i live in argentina and i dont have access to dollar to send it for that i cry so loud
could this tweaked like adreno?
Galaxy tav 3 inch 7
NexusMobileGamer said:
yes if you see that mali 400 is paired with good CPUs.but vivante doesnt get that good of a cpu.it all matters on the cpu.the cpu calculates how many FPS can it pull and the GPU just tries to pull it.if the cpu cannot calculate high FPS whats the point of a good GPU?
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Hi everyone, i've the galaxy tab 3 inch 7 (3g), i'm very suprised for the performance. I can run modern combat 4 in high quality in 55fps - 60 fps.
Dead trigger 2 and 1 run very fast.
gc vivante 1000 is better than mali 400,because gc vivante 1000 is a dual gpu and he support opengl ES 3.0 (in galaxy tab 3 the extension it's didn't present because the version of OS is jelly bean 4.1.2, and opengl ES 3.0 run only android 4.3+) but don't worry,galaxy tab 3 in all version will receive the kitkat,and i've tested very games (brothers in arms 2,the walking dead and etc),i'm very happy but this gpu suport only extension tegra (high quality in games). Mali 400 is very powerfull but it doesn't suport opengl ES 3.0.
i have the comparison powervr sgx 540 vs gc vivante 1000.
I bought Fujitsu Arrowsx F02E phone last week. Great Japan phone for low price. It works great(Fingerprint sensor exelent and also HUMAN CENTRIC ENGINE). But,
1. When I turn on GPS using 3G network it restarting again and again(GPS work fine with Wifi)
2. Antutu benchmark shows lower score for processor and GPU (Compared with HTC one X(Both has Nvidia tegra 3)) HTC one x has 1.5quad but this phone has 1.7quad . So, why lower score?
3. Asphault 7 not working also(Game opened its Menu is slow and game not started).
Please help me ASAP.
And Can someone please tell me where Can I find custom rom for this?
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I bought Fujitsu Arrowsx F02E phone last week. Great Japan phone for low price. It works great(Fingerprint sensor exelent and also HUMAN CENTRIC ENGINE). But,
1. When I turn on GPS using 3G network it restarting again and again(GPS work fine with Wifi)
2. Antutu benchmark shows lower score for processor and GPU (Compared with HTC one X(Both has Nvidia tegra 3)) HTC one x has 1.5quad but this phone has 1.7quad . So, why lower score?
3. Asphault 7 not working also(Game opened its Menu is slow and game not started).
Please help me ASAP.
And Can someone please tell me where Can I find custom rom for this?
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help me plz
I'm thinking of buying one of these for gaming, how's the gaming performance on it? I know demons score thd made my asus tf700t work hard.
Demon's Score THD Japanese Ver is preloaded on the phone (albeit a trial version). It runs good, some frame drops here and there.
Asphalt 7 works fine for me on my F-02E. Also gameplay is rather smooth offscreen at 1080p.
Asphalt 8 works good too, but some occasional frame drops on complex maps.
Shadowgun and DeadTrigger both plays buttery smooth.
Epic Citadel Unreal 3 Benchmark, the F-02E at 1080p on Best Quality setting gets around 30fps - 40fps (Tegra 3 works better on 720p screens, and again lack of optimization from Fujitsu on the software side)
GBA, SNES, PS1, N64 emulator all work great on the phone (after r00t and delete some bloatwarez)
2D games (Fruit Ninja, Doodle Jump, Stupid Test, Jetpack Joyride etc) works flawless in HD.
3D gaming performance of the Tegra 3+ on this F-02E is aroung 1.7x-1.8x slower than the Adreno 320 GPU on my F-06E and my Galaxy S4- i337m
Hi, I have some questions about the best cores in RetroArch emulator.
Which one is better?
PSX: PCSX ReARMed vs Mednafen?
Snes: Snes9x vs Snes9x next vs bsnes?
GBA: VBA-M vs VBA Next?
Sega: Genesis Plus GX vs Picodrive?
DS emu is very slow and ugly? There is no better emulator for android?
Mupen64 Plus there is any way to use hires textures?
What about Sega CD, even with the bios I'm unable to run any games (.iso) ?
There is any way to use anti aliasing in the psx games?
Thanks
There is a problem with Mupen64plus and fps on Shield.
Mario 64 30 fps, zeldas 20 fps, f-zero 60 fps.
I think there is some fps limit in roms, bc zeldas on n64 are limited to 20 fps on the real hardware.
Any fix for that? Same for Mupen64plus AE...
So I have a dinosaur of a smartphone - 600 MHz ARM v6 "ZTE Score" revision 5 single-core CPU, Adreno 200 GPU @ 245 MHz, and just 512 MB of RAM (half of which is used 90% of the time), and Gingerbread (unrooted).
I have gotten these games to run perfectly (at least 60 FPS constantly):
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Gensoid 1.6:
1.All Sonics, from Sonic The Hedgehog to Sonic 3 + Sonic & Knuckles.
2.Disney's Aladdin.
3.World of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse & Donald Duck.
4.All Mortal Kombats, from Mortal Kombat to Mortal Kombat III.
5.Tom and Jerry: Frantic Antics.
6.Vectorman.
7.Mickey & Minnie: Circus.
Snesoid 2.2.4:
1.Super Mario World.
2.Super Mario All Stars.
3.Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.
4.Killer Instinct.
5.Chrono Trigger.
6.Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures.
7.The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past.
8.Goof Troop.
9.Disney's Aladdin.
10.Donkey Kong Country 1 & 2.
GBCoid 1.8.6:
1.Ren & Stimpy: Veediots!
2.Sylvester & Tweety: Twouble!
3.Super Mario Land.
4.Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins.
Gameboid 2.4.7:
1.Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap.
2.Final Fantasy VI Advance.
3.Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga.
4.Pokemon Ruby Version.
5.Fire Emblem.
Nesoid 1.6:
1.All Mario Bros. games.
2.Battletoads.
3.Galaga: Demons of Death.
4.Kid Icarus.
5.Castevania.
6.Metroid.
2600 EMU (Atari 2600 emulator):
1.Asteroids.
2.Frogger.
3.Pitfall.
4.Pac-Man.
5.Super Breakout.
These games run, but not at full speed (anything from one quarter of a frame per-second to 60+ FPS):
SuperN64 3.0:
1.Super Mario 64 (goes at an average of 7-12 frames per-second, and can get to almost 20 with the best optimizations possible).
2.Yoshi's Story (almost 8 frames per-second).
3.Mischief Makers (mostly 8-13 FPS, but sometimes as much as 15).
4.Mario Party 1 & 2 & 3 (quite slow; no more than 4 FPS in most areas, but sometimes up to 10).
nds4droid (Nintendo DS emulator - latest version):
1.Plants VS Zombies (nearly 2 FPS all of the time with best optimizations possible).
2.Mario Party DS (almost 1 frame per-second).
3.Mario Kart DS (nearly half a frame per-second).
4.Smackdown VS Raw 2009 (around 1/4 of a frame every few seconds).
FPse (Playstation 1 emulator - quite an old version):
1.Final Fantasy VII (on an even older version of FPse, I've gotten 60 + FPS, and averages around 60 in field and world map, 30-40 in battles (a little more with frameskipping hacks), but sound is bad).
2.Final Fantasy VIII (haven't tried on the aforementioned version of FPse yet, will update the outcome).
3.Final Fantasy IX (same as above).
Do you know what your ARM is capable of? This is what I've squeezed out of mine.
Whenever a PS2 emulator arrives for Android, I'll try and see if I can get a single game to even load on the aforementioned device.
Nice
��Veselov said:
So I have a dinosaur of a smartphone - 600 MHz ARM v6 "ZTE Score" revision 5 single-core CPU, Adreno 200 GPU @ 245 MHz, and just 512 MB of RAM (half of which is used 90% of the time), and Gingerbread (unrooted). I have gotten these games to run perfectly (at least 30 FPS constantly):
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Do you know what your ARM is capable of? This is what I've squeezed out of mine.
Whenever a PS2 emulator arrives for Android, I'll try and see if I can get a single game to even load on the aforementioned device.
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I will try it,
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I will try it,
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You have a ZTE Score, or you mean "I will try emulating all of those games to see if my device can compare"?
Any modern device would wipe the floor with a ZTE Score in nearly any shape or form.
With a Galaxy S4 you could probably emulate plenty of PSX games at roughly full speed (including all of the ones I listed).
That's pretty amazing, because I have a Note II (more than 3x better than a single-core ARM v6 @ 600MHz) and I can't properly emulate Super Mario 64 on N64oid (maybe its the emulator as well?). I never tried FPse, but on ePSXe I can only get FF7 to 15-20 FPS. Those are some amazing performance specs for such a low-end device, unrooted and all. What are your optimizations?
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That's pretty amazing, because I have a Note II (more than 3x better than a single-core ARM v6 @ 600MHz) and I can't properly emulate Super Mario 64 on N64oid (maybe its the emulator as well?). I never tried FPse, but on ePSXe I can only get FF7 to 15-20 FPS. Those are some amazing performance specs for such a low-end device, unrooted and all. What are your optimizations?
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you must not know what your doing cuz I have a phone not much more powerful than what the op described and I am getting almost the same specs with ff7 as you mention using epsxe sure better cpus help and such but if you don't optimize you will never get any thing good out of it
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you must not know what your doing cuz I have a phone not much more powerful than what the op described and I am getting almost the same specs with ff7 as you mention using epsxe sure better cpus help and such but if you don't optimize you will never get any thing good out of it
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Yeah, optimization helps (better plugins, enabling full cpu frequency, removing crapware/memory hogging widgets, speed hacks with custom ROMs, etc,). I didn't use custom ROMs, but I used some of the best emulator settings possible, gave the app as much RAM as needed, and pushed for full cpu frequency.
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On an older version of FPse for Android, with the exact same specs as listed above, still unrooted and everything, I now have gotten Final Fantasy VII (7) to run at 60 + FPS on the aforementioned device. It's not 100% perfect, as FPS drops to 30-40 in battles and the music is a bit choppy, but for the device mentioned above, this is incredible it even goes so good. It runs better than Super Mario RPG on Snesoid, and Super Mario 64 on any N64 emulator I've tried, even with the best speed hacks possible.
Hi guys, did anyone try to play asphalt 8 on gingerbread? if yes does it lag for you? if it doesn't share the magic tricks, because i get huge ass lag
magic trick: buy a new high end phone like xiaomi 3 and play ,smooth and super fast :3
at least nfs swift is flawless, i guess. Asphalt 8 is too graphic intense. adreno 200 just can't do it.