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Hi guys,
Im looking to buy my first ever tablet but im having trouble choosing. I'm a university engineer student and need a tablet that can take notes(alot of typing), browse the web(flash must have), remote access desktop back home (must have) and possible play few games( nothing fancy). I had a laptop(windows 7) but it was big, heavy and ended up breaking when I was rushing from class to class. That's why I'm looking for a smaller tablet. I want to stay away from laptops and try something new (android). I do have a windows desktop at home, so i dont really need another windows laptop. My budget is about 400-700 Max.
After doing some Googling I found:
Asus transformer infinity tf700t (with dock)
Samsung galaxy note 10.1 (probably will buy a dock for it)
Windows surface (has cover/dock)
Ipad 2 (don't really like apple products because there is no customization to it, but still considering)
So far I'm looking at the Asus tf700t because of the dock but since I have never owned any android tablets I'm a little unsure if its the right choice for me.*
Any tips, suggestions or comments will be much appreciated.
Thank you
You can't really go wrong with an android device. On stock OS android is more stable than any other mobile OS. And that's without losing all the customization. Where as on the iPad or any other OS or tablet/phone you have to do some sort of hackery or something extra. But out of the box an android tablet runs circles around anything else available. I can't say however the tablet apps are as polished in iOS in android. That is just simple mathematics... there are so many more phones than tablets so fewer developers work on them. But don't let that discourage you. You will still find what you looking for and more with the tablet your most interested in.
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You can't really go wrong with an android device. On stock OS android is more stable than any other mobile OS. And that's without losing all the customization. Where as on the iPad or any other OS or tablet/phone you have to do some sort of hackery or something extra. But out of the box an android tablet runs circles around anything else available. I can't say however the tablet apps are as polished in iOS in android. That is just simple mathematics... there are so many more phones than tablets so fewer developers work on them. But don't let that discourage you. You will still find what you looking for and more with the tablet your most interested in.
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I have looked around asus transformer tf700 section and i found some good tips and everyone says its definitely worth the price, though some problems with battery life.
thanks for your comment btw.
I say go for the Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a bit newer and you also get a newer version of ICS. You may take a hit in the screen resolution, which is 1280 X 800. You do get a quad core CPU, with the Mali-400mp GPU, and 2 GBs of memory. Plus you get a pen with it ^__^. When looking at the Prime you may get a higher resolution screen of 1920 X 1200, you get a dual core CPU, the Adreno 225, and 1 GB of memory. In terms of GPU power both offer about the same performance wise. With all the other bells and whistles both have very comparable stats.
Here's a long and detailed review for the Galaxy Note 10.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wf_PqPi2tw&lc
Here's a long and detailed review for the Prime Infinity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xvzgGOpUFA
Specs on Galaxy Note 10.1 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1_n8000-4573.php
Specs on Prime Infinity http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_transformer_pad_infinity_700_3g-4604.php
If you can wait for the Windows Surface tablet to come out to see what it offers, and I highly suggest not to get an iPad because it doesn't support flash lol, and has little to no customization. Plus it's the older iPad 2 which only has a comparable GPU the PowerVR SGX543 MP2. However, the screen res is even lower than the Note 10.1 (1024 X 768) , and it has only 512 mb of ram (which in some occasions isn't enough anymore), has no dock, and has no expandable storage either.
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I say go for the Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a bit newer and you also get a newer version of ICS. You may take a hit in the screen resolution, which is 1280 X 800. You do get a quad core CPU, with the Mali-400mp GPU, and 2 GBs of memory. Plus you get a pen with it ^__^. When looking at the Prime you may get a higher resolution screen of 1920 X 1200, you get a dual core CPU, the Adreno 225, and 1 GB of memory. In terms of GPU power both offer about the same performance wise. With all the other bells and whistles both have very comparable stats.
If you can wait for the Windows Surface tablet to come out to see what it offers, and I highly suggest not to get an iPad because it doesn't support flash lol, and has little to no customization. Plus it's the older iPad 2 which only has a comparable GPU the PowerVR SGX543 MP2. However, the screen res is even lower the Note 10.1 (1024 X 768) , and it has only 512 mb of ram (which in some occasions isn't enough anymore), has no dock, and has no expandable storage either.
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Thanks for the great links and tip. I'm going to do a tryout of some tablets to see how easy and good they are at note taking. If the infinity it Samsung galaxy note 10.1 don't fit my list. I will wait for the windows surface pro to come out and buy it, that is if neither the infinity or samung note 10.1 satisfy my needs.
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Thanks for the great links and tip. I'm going to do a tryout of some tablets to see how easy and good they are at note taking. If the infinity it Samsung galaxy note 10.1 don't fit my list. I will wait for the windows surface pro to come out and buy it, that is if neither the infinity or samung note 10.1 satisfy my needs.
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You're welcome lol, and just after I posted those video from MobileTechReview, they posted this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y6m7ZLetMo Galaxy Note 10.1 vs Asus Prime Infinity =).
So here I am getting ready to order the note from best buy...then the new Sony tablet is announced. Will be $400 for 16gb, with sd card expansion.
Will run on tegra3 with a 6000mAh battery. It'll have a 9.4 inch screen, not sure how much smaller is that compared to 10.1 screen.
It does look very beautiful, even without the s pen....what do you guys think?
Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCooO09Vhwo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Well it doesn't have a pen.
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what do you guys think?
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I think the Teg2 Tablet S it is replacing was embarassing from a company like Sony and that this evolution of it is a better effort. I accepted the 720P display on the Note in order to get the additional features. What additional features are you getting on the Sony tablet that makes putting up with a 720P display at premium prices acceptable?
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Well it doesn't have a pen.
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No Pen, no go for me too. The pen is way too useful, no matter what the new tablets look like.
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No Pen, no go for me too. The pen is way too useful, no matter what the new tablets look like.
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Yes if you don't need a pen just get an iPad3. Without the pen the Note is just a fast tablet with an average screen. The pen is the thing.
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Get the GN 10.1. Even though I like Sony the S tablet is just a more expensive and slightly larger Nexus 7. Don't waste your time with the dumbPad3.
You should probably decide if you want any type of alternate input method. If you don't, the Note is not really a factor unless Sony build quality is as poor as Asus. Personally, after reading the TF300/TF700 problems threads, I'd give Sony a chance before buying an Asus. You could also look the Lenovo S2110 (Qualcom S4 Krait). It's very price compatible with the other tabs ($400 for 16GB, 1280x800 IPS Display).
If you are at all attracted using a pen, get the Note.
Well never mind, here is a demo of web browsing on Sony's tablet....yikes
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/sony-xperia-tablet-s-hands-on/
It has Tegra 3 SoC. That is a code for.. "avoid at all cost"...
Nexus 7 is the only "successful" Tegra 3 device.... but even that device has QC issue (granted, made by Asus). But in general, Tegra 3 devices in general have issues....
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It has Tegra 3 SoC. That is a code for.. "avoid at all cost"...
Nexus 7 is the only "successful" Tegra 3 device.... but even that device has QC issue (granted, made by Asus). But in general, Tegra 3 devices in general have issues....
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Too bad Demandarin isn't here; he'd get a kick out of me defending Teg3. I have a Teg3 One X. After its last update a week ago, it outperforms the Exynos SGS3 in Quadrant and AnTuTu (although Mali kicks GeForce’s butt in pure GPU tests, especially off-screen). With the performance boost the update improved battery life at the same time. There was initially some flickering issues from dynamic power management but they were cleaned up after the first update. Moral of the story: it's not the "chip" but what the manufacturers do with it that matters most.
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Too bad Demandarin isn't here; he'd get a kick out of me defending Teg3. I have a Teg3 One X. After its last update a week ago, it outperforms the Exynos SGS3 in Quadrant and AnTuTu (although Mali kicks GeForce’s butt in pure GPU tests, especially off-screen). With the performance boost the update improved battery life at the same time. There was initially some flickering issues from dynamic power management but they were cleaned up after the first update. Moral of the story: it's not the "chip" but what the manufacturers do with it that matters most.
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That flickering issue that you speak of... well, pretty much all Tegra 3 devices have it at some stage (also in various f/m updates... some go away, some return). That includes Nexus 7....
As for benchmarks ... too bad it doesn't translate into real world performance. Browsing in any Tegra 3 devices that I have tried (Prime, Acer A500 & 700, Toshiba tablet) has been absolute nightmare. My HP Touchpad easily outperforms all 3 of those Tegra 3 tablets....
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It has Tegra 3 SoC. That is a code for.. "avoid at all cost"...
Nexus 7 is the only "successful" Tegra 3 device.... but even that device has QC issue (granted, made by Asus). But in general, Tegra 3 devices in general have issues....
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Can't say if it's software or hardware but my Nexus 7 hangs in Dead Trigger everyone so often prompting to wait, report or close with the only real option to close and reopen it. Also, I notice the Tegra3 runs rather warm but probably because of the 40nm process. GN 10.1, on the other hand, has never hung in Dead Trigger and the Exynos runs rather cool.
Agreed...It is simple...Tegra 3 vs. Exynos ... no competition...
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It has Tegra 3 SoC. That is a code for.. "avoid at all cost"...
Nexus 7 is the only "successful" Tegra 3 device.... but even that device has QC issue (granted, made by Asus). But in general, Tegra 3 devices in general have issues....
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Hmm..
It is technically $100 cheaper, but several features lacking
1. Tegra 3 chip, which is NOT as good as the one in the infinity. Exynos chip on the Galaxy Note 10.1 is equivalent for infinity's tegra 3 chip on CPU side and for GPU side Exynos is better; hence, easily concluded CPU/GPU is inferior.
2. Memory. Standard 1GB memory, not 2GB as in Galaxy Note.
3. Standard 160 DPI screen & Smaller Screen....
4. No S-pen.
Personally I didn't care about S-pen in fact, I haven't used it since the day #1 I got the system... But still Samsung seemed to have some reason for its premium price despite lack of HD Screen i.e. better GPU, memory, and S-pen. $100 cheaper, but Xperia is inferior to infinity and galaxy note in every aspect. I just cannot believe why Sony even thought this would sell at all... They should have at least included HD display especially with smaller screen...
Sorry. Not for me. I'm very happy.
Let's not forget that it's a Sony. All of the good things you've been hearing about Sony's handset division in terms of developer friendliness do NOT apply to their tablets!
Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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The G-Tab 2 is a nice value-level tablet that's not very powerful. It's going to $279 at Costco on Black Friday. The Note is a high-end tablet that's fast and has a ton of unique features centered around productivity and creativity. If you don't need the power and additional features then yes, you should have gotten a G-Tab 2. The Nexus 10 is also fast and powerful and slots somewhere in between price wise. That probably would be a better investment for those not looking for the Note's extra benefits. I had a G-Tab I and got rid of it to get the Note primarily for the additional performance and productivity.
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Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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Yes; you've purchased the correct tablet. Although the Tab 2 10.1 falls into a very comfortable price bracket, the hardware of the Note 10.1 more than justifies it's relative expense. While you may not feel as though your specific needs warrant a device as powerful as the Note 10.1, the Note 10.1's raw processing horsepower will leave it sitting pretty with future versions of Android for some time to come. However, the Tab 2 10.1 isn't even as powerful or as well built as it's predecessor. Because of this, I don't see the Tab 2 10.1 receiving many updates after it gets Jelly Bean. As a matter of fact, I would be really surprised if Samsung decided to update the Tab 2 10.1 to Jelly Bean 4.2. Rather, I suspect the Tab 2 10.1 will stay on Jelly Bean 4.1.* and receive only stability patches, security patches, and bugfixes thereafter. If the Tab 2 10.1 does indeed receive a Samsung update to Jelly Bean 4.2, I would expect it to be the last. With Android's hardware requirements becoming ever more stringent, it was foolish for Samsung to release a device as underpowered as the Tab 2 10.1. Furthermore, the release of the Tab 2 10.1 marks the only occasion I can remember in which the device is less powerful and/or less desireable than the device it is supposed to be replacing. The original Tab 10.1 is superior to the Tab 2 10.1 in almost every respect. In my opinion, the only thing Samsung got right with the Tab 2 10.1 is the forward-facing speakers.
So, to sum things up, if you indeed have a Note 10.1, you've made a very solid investment and you have decidedly good taste. I wish you the best. I hope you enjoy your tablet. Take care and have a good one!
Thank you,
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Furthermore, the release of the Tab 2 10.1 marks the only occasion I can remember in which the device is less powerful and/or less desireable than the device it is supposed to be replacing. The original Tab 10.1 is superior upgrade uto the Tab 2 10.1 in almost every respect
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I almost agree. yes some things were a downgrade but definitely not the processor or GPU. No it doesn't have flash for the camera. But the OMAP does hold its own, the setup is actually pretty decent and it runs circles around Tegra 2, and can be put against Tegra 3. The main problem is touchwiz; it just bogs down the system, not to unusability, but it is noticeable. Put the Jellybean on it, and it's more smooth. Put AOKP on it and it flies better than the note with ICS. Plays games real smooth also. But other than that, what comes out of the box isnt impressive compared to what was being released at the current time. Not everyone wants to hack their tablet to get a good experience though, it is expected to come with one.
Who has to hack their device to get it running right? I've been sto k since day 1 and my Note 10.1 is fast, fluid, and never shows any lag. For me, this version of touchwiz doesn't slowdown device at all. Never had any issues. Note 10.1 IS FAR superior hardware wise to tab2.
If you want a cheaper tablet that performs great, get a Nexus 7 then. Its still one of the best. If not THE BEST. All around android tablet. A very popular device with xda users and several tech sites. I'd get a Nexus 7 over tab2 anyday if price was a factor.
This tablet is awesome. The pen alone sets it apart from all others and hardware is great too. Screen resolution is the only disappointment in my opinion but I understand the wacom grid for the pen creates limitations in that regard so I can live with lower resolution in return for the awesome pen.
I had a tab 2, they are ok if you're on a budget but if you want to keep costs down a nexus 7 32gb would be a better option. 16gb just isn't enough in my opinion. The omap 440 processor in the tab 2 is getting quite old now and wasn't exactly a top of the line performer on release.
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ok so by the sounds of it stick with the galaxy note 10.1
To be honest the price difference between them was approx £65 - one of the reasons I questioned whether it was the right tab was because the screen resolution wasnt any improvement over the tab 2
thanks for the advice guys
I meant hacking tab 2, and yes it's that annoying. Try one yourself. The note 10.1 is great, fluid etc but still lags a bit on ICS. Most, if not all, is fixed with 4.1
Try pinch zooming your home screen
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I almost agree. yes some things were a downgrade but definitely not the processor or GPU. No it doesn't have flash for the camera. But the OMAP does hold its own, the setup is actually pretty decent and it runs circles around Tegra 2, and can be put against Tegra 3. The main problem is touchwiz; it just bogs down the system, not to unusability, but it is noticeable. Put the Jellybean on it, and it's more smooth. Put AOKP on it and it flies better than the note with ICS. Plays games real smooth also. But other than that, what comes out of the box isnt impressive compared to what was being released at the current time. Not everyone wants to hack their tablet to get a good experience though, it is expected to come with one.
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Runs circles around the Tegra 2? WTF have you been reading?!
GTab 2 10.1 & OG GTab 10.1 Benchmarks:
http://db.tt/XhBmQA3y
Looks like it marginally beats the Tegra 2's CPU and gets spanked by the Tegra 2's GPU. I don't know what I'd call that, but I certainly wouldn't call that running circles around the Tegra 2.
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To be honest, if you have bought a tab and are asking this question then I believe you may have bought the wrong tab... I looked up both, weighed the pro's & cons and decided the note 10.1 was what I needed... If you are questioning that then either you didn't do the research or just got hung up on the extra features.
If you have the option to return with no problems and get a new tab then do so, it may be you will try the new tab and decide that the grass really was greener on the other side....
In Oz we have no such policies. What we buy we are stuck with. The only way to get our $$$ back is to sell on ebay...
I'm purchasing a galaxy note 2 from sprint next week. I am also in the market for a tablet its either the samsung note 10.1 or the ASUS infinity. Is there any benefits of having a samsung phone and tablet? The reasons why I want a infinity is for the slightly better display and battery performance, but like the S-Pen functions on the note 2. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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I'm purchasing a galaxy note 2 from sprint next week. I am also in the market for a tablet its either the samsung note 10.1 or the ASUS infinity. Is there any benefits of having a samsung phone and tablet? The reasons why I want a infinity is for the slightly better display and battery performance, but like the S-Pen functions on the note 2. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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In my opinion I believe the note 10.1 out performs the infinity and if all you want is the display get the nexus 10. I've had my note for 2 months and love it
isnt the nexus 10 have no expandable storage?
No it's not, that can be a deal breaker for some but i figure between dropbox and other cloud services it wouldn't bother me. But back to between the note and the infinity. Screen res the infinity definitely wins but hardware it's a close race. In quadrant standard (take that for what it's worth) i score consistently in the mid 5000's. When it updates to jelly bean it will be much better. (my galaxy s3 went from 5200 to 6100 with the update) i have yet to slow this thing down.
even though it is a lower res screen it still has more pixels than the ipad 2 and HD movies still look pretty stunning.
If you see some of the post in this forum there is a word that N10 has lots of issue specificly with display as far infinity is concerned it has whole list of issues which have been talked about by its owners in this as well as forum specific to infinity but when it comes to note you will find there are some issues with quality but it restricted to display only and most of the actual users (there are many who are fake owners who only citizise note) will only praise not
I agree that there are very few issues with this tablet, and if you have a note 2 then you will love having both devices so similar, it will make syncing them a breeze.
I previously had the Transformer TF101 (the original copper); this Note blows it out of the water. Sure, the display isn't on par with the Infinity's, but I got the Note because I use it for taking notes and drawing stuff. For me, I rather have the stylus over the keyboard (though I am looking for a keyboard dock of a sort) because I take notes in physics classes. However.. I'd go for the Nexus 10 if you don't need the stylus. Although this tablet has better hardware than almost everything out there (or is it just everything?), the Nexus 10 is a great price for a great tablet with a great display, and that's all you need if you don't want the stylus. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 for my phone, but I haven't noticed better syncing or whatever compared to when I used my Asus Tablet..
benefits:
- same apps for special Samsung markets
- synchronization works better on same brande devices
- special S pen application will works perfect on both device
- you need just Kies in PC (if you are using this kind of SW)
- compatibility of accesories
From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
What makes the s4 better?
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it doesnt cost €1000
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it doesnt cost €1000
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I think you can purchase the phone separate without the tablet attachment for less
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From what I read they both have almost the same specs... Except infinity will be running pure android unlike s4 touch wiz..
Same ppi I think... 441 except infinity will sport an ips vs samoled...
Having an s3 and a Nexus 4 I think ips is better.
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Asus' devices are lightly skinned but not "pure Android (AOSP)." There's a ton of proprietary s/w on it to handle being a phone and a tablet when docked.
It's not available in the U.S. and the international versions have incompatible HSPA and LTE bands so you'd only get 2G data speeds if you imported one. You'd probably need to wait and see if a U.S. carrier picked it up if you really wanted one.
Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
If you thought the HTC one has a stunning design, the Infinity takes it to the next level. It's definitely going to be a competitor on the performance front, the whole package with the tablet looks gorgeous. But that price tag is totally crazy.
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Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
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I've always liked this idea of the Padfone, especially when you could also add the keyboard dock (I got the Asus Transformer Prime, and the dock is very useful).
This one looks great also, but there are a few things I don't like, and that show how much Samsung is good with its hardware design.
The S4 has a larger battery (2600 vs 2400), same screen size, more sensors (temperature, humidity), a removable battery, a microSD card slot and still manages to be a lot smaller (143.5 x 72.8 x 8.9 mm (LxWxH) for the PadFone and 136.6 x 69.8 x 7.9 mm for the Galaxy S4) and lighter than the Padfone (145 g vs 130 g).
Also, I love all the software features the S4 has, as well as the much improved camera compared to the S3
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Ah! I love Asus, This is a company that think outside the box. I would be worried the phone get all scratched out by putting in and out the pad slot.
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Not really. "think outside the box" is creativeness, but it lacks true innovation. For the true definition of innovation, you can search on internet (not wikipedia). Simply, innovation is bringing ideas to the reality with a big effect to the company's performance or the society.
Why did I say that? Asus has tried to show many many positive advantages of its products to people. They are true advantages, I agree, but just on the surface.
There first quad-core device (TF201) sounded great. First quadcore, IPS+ super bright display, gorgeous aluminum body with keyboard and quickest ICS update. But the quad-core had IO issue, performance was sooo laggy, bad build quality (cracking even aluminum), loosen screen and light bleeding, no GPS and weak wifi (metal body and very bad cheap wifi radio from Azura), mono sound and super buggy update. Oh one of the biggest Flop.
The first Padfone: it's brilliant idea becoming true after more than a year and many people were bored. When the device came out, it's so heavy and buggy (resolution conflict between phone and tablet pad). Expensive price.
The first Full-HD Android Tablet: long delayed device also. Like TF201, it was PR as a powerful device with a simirlar story: Full HD screen IPS+ super bright display, 1.6Ghz quad-core, changing in design with better GPS and wifi, quickest update. But performance wasstill bad (garbage Tegra 3 IO issue), updates were still buggy, screen was still loosen or light bleed, wifi chipset was still Azura's. Oh luckily this time it's still much better than tf201.
Padfone 2: good device but too expensive. Keyboard dock was no longer available on Padfone series. This phone was "died" after announcing few months because of Padfone Infinity
Padfone Infinity: I had some Asus devices and I don't wanna try anymore, but this one seems to be good. Unfortunately, it's only available in some areas with small number. Price is sooo expensive. I think people will continue considering it is as something inside the art museum, not for use.
Overall, Asus always has great ideas, but it lacks of making comprehensive devices, good marketing with reasonable price, making the "creative ideas" cannot become "innovations"
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Overall, Asus always has great ideas, but it lacks of making comprehensive devices, good marketing with reasonable price, making the "creative ideas" cannot become "innovations"
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And you left out execution which is an area Asus has always struggled. If you look at the PadFone forums, oh wait, you can't because there aren't any. One of the biggest potential downsides of any device anyone buys is it becoming an orphan. Unlike a TV that will function fine for years as-is mobile devices need updates to be able to continue taking advantage of new features and apps. And even if they functioned fine without updates I think, especially at the high-end, we all expect them.
Niche products like PadFone don't get the same attention higher volume products do. Even from Asus who has a pretty good update track record. Last year Panasonic made a huge declaration that they were going to re-enter the EU in a big way in mobile. They changed their mind six months later and are now considering exiting the mobile business completely. And Panasonic is a far larger company then Asus. Samsung and LG are here to stay. Sony seems to be but so did Panasonic and Sony's not doing so hot financially. HTC's hemorrhaging financially too which could affect their future. Motorola’s here to stay but they turned their backs on pre-Google devices once (no JB for 2011 phones even though promised) so their view on past device support will probably get even more sketchy post-Phone X as they turn their attention to the future. All the rest? Who knows? How long will it take someone who bought an Oppo Find online here in the U.S. to get a cracked screen replaced out of warranty? There's more to buying a device than its display and SoC and "cool features."
Actually the S4 vs Padfone is no contest. The thread should be HTC One vs Padfone as they have almost the same specs.
BTW: I have a little love for Asus cause last time I bricked my TF101 they exchanged it no question asked.:good:
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Asus' devices are lightly skinned but not "pure Android (AOSP)." There's a ton of proprietary s/w on it to handle being a phone and a tablet when docked.
It's not available in the U.S. and the international versions have incompatible HSPA and LTE bands so you'd only get 2G data speeds if you imported one. You'd probably need to wait and see if a U.S. carrier picked it up if you really wanted one.
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According to GSMArena, the PadFone Inifinity supports LTE 2100 which is what ATT uses. http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_padfone_infinity-5328.php
willhang said:
According to GSMArena, the PadFone Inifinity supports LTE 2100 which is what ATT uses. http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_padfone_infinity-5328.php
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Sorry for resurrecting a dead thread, but AT&T doesn't use LTE 2100.
However, ASUS did hint at a US specific version being announced at Computex. Knowing AT&T's openness to new types of devices (OG Galaxy Notes, that Pantech phone that was a square, the Samsung smart PC, etc) I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes an AT&T phone.