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4500 Seidio vs 3000 Zerolemon

I have been reading all the threads on the extended batteries and wanted to hear from people that have both the seidio 4500 and the 3000 zero lemon. I have the 7500 Zerolemon for my phone right now. Although the battery is nice, I don't get crazy numbers like some people on here. (12 hours screen on time!!) I've had the battery for a week and my most has been about 7 hours. Which is still crazy good, but I miss the feeling of the slim phone. This thing made my basketball shorts sag like crazy today and realized this thing might be too big.
Saw the Seidio one and someone posted a picture of it by a quarter. So I measured mine by a quarter and the seidio seems alot thinner. So now I'm deciding between the Seidio and the 3000 ZL. I just need something thats going to last me a day since I will be charging it every night. Also I am a heavy user.
I was wondering if the back of the Seidio is noticeably fatter and heavier or not really? If not i'm leaning towards the Seidio.
Also which one would you guys prefer between these two?

choboii said:
I have been reading all the threads on the extended batteries and wanted to hear from people that have both the seidio 4500 and the 3000 zero lemon. I have the 7500 Zerolemon for my phone right now. Although the battery is nice, I don't get crazy numbers like some people on here. (12 hours screen on time!!) I've had the battery for a week and my most has been about 7 hours. Which is still crazy good, but I miss the feeling of the slim phone. This thing made my basketball shorts sag like crazy today and realized this thing might be too big.
Saw the Seidio one and someone posted a picture of it by a quarter. So I measured mine by a quarter and the seidio seems alot thinner. So now I'm deciding between the Seidio and the 3000 ZL. I just need something thats going to last me a day since I will be charging it every night. Also I am a heavy user.
I was wondering if the back of the Seidio is noticeably fatter and heavier or not really? If not i'm leaning towards the Seidio.
Also which one would you guys prefer between these two?
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I imagine that you will be needing a case that is relatively useful if you are playing basketball with it in your shorts, so when you do size comparisons, I suggest you compare the seidio with the extended case on it. I don't think you gain much in regards to width at that point, but it will be lighter and not weigh your shorts down as much.
I'm very skeptical about the zerolemon 3000 mah battery, only because a lot of the 3rd party manufacturers are really 80-90% of their said rating, but to each their own. If you had 13 percent more battery than stock, would it be enough for your daily use, if not, then I'd go with the seidio or stick with the zl 7500.

I have both the ZL 7500 and the Seidio 4500 and I much prefer the latter. The ZL is just too heavy and too.. blocky for me. What saves the Seidio is the much lighter weight and the fact that it's beveled enough so that the angels lie much better in your hands. It manages not to feel very thick at all.
It's going to be my daily battery while I'll keep the ZL for times when I'll be away from charging for quite some time (then I'll probably bring both though).
And I actually think I might prefer the Seidio over the stock battery when it comes to handling the phone as well. It just lies very well in your hand. A tad slippery though so I picked up a case for it on ebay that I hope will fit, if it doesn't I'll probably buy their own case with the kick stand.

Obscure Reference said:
I have both the ZL 7500 and the Seidio 4500 and I much prefer the latter. The ZL is just too heavy and too.. blocky for me. What saves the Seidio is the much lighter weight and the fact that it's beveled enough so that the angels lie much better in your hands. It manages not to feel very thick at all.
It's going to be my daily battery while I'll keep the ZL for times when I'll be away from charging for quite some time (then I'll probably bring both though).
And I actually think I might prefer the Seidio over the stock battery when it comes to handling the phone as well. It just lies very well in your hand. A tad slippery though so I picked up a case for it on ebay that I hope will fit, if it doesn't I'll probably buy their own case with the kick stand.
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Whats your battery life between the two? How's the 4500 match up to the 7500??

You can get (2) ZeroLemon 3000 mAh with a charger for $19 and not need a new battery door or have issues with cases. To me that is far more effective and possibly a way I would go. Just not too familiar with how well ZeroLemon batteries hold up, read a lot of good reviews but no personal experience yet.

I totally agree that getting 2 ZeroLemon 3000 mAh with a charger for $19 is certainly a great deal, but my concern is this, that every time that a battery goes dead you are popping off the back door of your device and taking a chance of something happening. I rather pay $50.00 for a battery that has double that amount and not have to pop the back off. So, that brings me to an another problem, if you were to get a battery doubled that amount, chances are that you are going to need a new door , thus making your phone fatter and unable to fit the OtterBox case. I maybe wrong, I am just speculating from my experience from my other phone I had.
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BossJ said:
Whats your battery life between the two? How's the 4500 match up to the 7500??
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Well.. the numbers speak for themselves don't they?
The ZL lasts a lot longer than the Seidio. It ought to last longer than the Seidio and the stock battery combined so it's a great battery. Just too bulky and heavy for me.
I still have it and it saved the day during a festival I went to. Burned through both the stock battery and the seidio and had to go to the ZL on the last day. Probably could've lasted through the whole event on the ZL but I didn't want something that heavy in my pocket all the time. Just kept all thre batteries in my backpack instead.
So.. it depends on your needs really.

Obscure Reference said:
Well.. the numbers speak for themselves don't they?
The ZL lasts a lot longer than the Seidio. It ought to last longer than the Seidio and the stock battery combined so it's a great battery. Just too bulky and heavy for me.
I still have it and it saved the day during a festival I went to. Burned through both the stock battery and the seidio and had to go to the ZL on the last day. Probably could've lasted through the whole event on the ZL but I didn't want something that heavy in my pocket all the time. Just kept all thre batteries in my backpack instead.
So.. it depends on your needs really.
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Yeah, I have both now also... got them yesterday, was just curious about life, because some batteries are a little better quality than others. but yes, ZL obviously is better as far as lasting longer.. I prefer the Seidio tho...

BossJ said:
Yeah, I have both now also... got them yesterday, was just curious about life, because some batteries are a little better quality than others. but yes, ZL obviously is better as far as lasting longer.. I prefer the Seidio tho...
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So is the Seidio significantly lighter and thinner?

I went with Anker dual 2600 since it had prime shipping and would prefer to keep same size phone; if I had time I prob would have ordered the Zero Lemon (prob will in future). Will report how the 2 2600 and charger hold up on my trip

Who is using the zerolemon 7500 mah battery and case

Im thinking about buying one but I had a few questions.under heavy use how many hrs,days do you usually get on a full charge?and the case that comes with the battery what would you rate it as far as how good does it protect the device?any information on this topic will be greatly appreciated. Thanks In advance!!!
T-mobile Gs5

get the zerolemon 8500mah case. its more juice and it has otterbox defender protection too.

Is the defender better than the survivor case? Thanks
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xda23 said:
Is the defender better than the survivor case? Thanks
T-mobile Gs5
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i suggest you also purchase the 8500Mah version of ZL i have purchased it and waiting for it to arrive.
i am sure it will serve you well in giving you lots of ScreenOnTime and Standby times, plus the case is very sturdy looking it has its flaws for example the speaker sounding low since the battery is really wide and covers the speakers but you can use a little piece of smthng like credit card material and put it between the battery near the speaker and then put the cover on im sure it will give better sound that way . go for 8500, only like 20$ more

xda23 said:
Im thinking about buying one but I had a few questions.under heavy use how many hrs,days do you usually get on a full charge?and the case that comes with the battery what would you rate it as far as how good does it protect the device?any information on this topic will be greatly appreciated. Thanks In advance!!!
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I have the 8500, and chose it for the case and holster. As others have said, the case is very nice and very protective. Comparisons to OtterBox are appropriate, and it may even be better... It also came with a holster which was the one thing that had been lacking for ZL in general. I had their battery with my Galaxy Nexus, and it was heck trying to find something to carry it on my belt that didn't look and feel horrible.
As for battery life, I'm on my third charge, and am getting 2-3 days. I have lots of apps, use lots of location based activities, and make the occasional phone call. With the stock battery I was getting 14-18 hours.

What Is a Good, Protective S6 External Battery Case?

Hey guys,
I was looking at the Mophie Juice Pack for Samsung Galaxy S6 but it retails for at least $74.99 plus shipping and handling on Amazon. I've seen other cases that claim to supply the same amount (or more) battery life than the Mophie one, but they're... suspiciously cheap, some are $29.99 and some are even $19.99. So there are two things that I'm looking for in my external battery case:
1. At least 3,000 mAh
2. Protection from dropping the phone and it landing screen-side. I don't case about how easy the case scratches or whatever.
I find the best way to figure these out are just to ask people which battery case they use or have seen used. So I'll do it, which battery cases have you guys used, and what was their quality like? Did they protect your phone?

Personally, I love and recommend this case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...CY0R72CAW7Q&ref_=pd_ys_sf_s_2335752011_a2_5_p
It has a soft rubber feel, lowers the likelihood of dropping the phone. Battery life is excellent. I use it when traveling on business.
Last thought. It is ZeroLemon, one of the most trusted names in accessories.
I hope this helps.

thanks for the link

koop1955 said:
Personally, I love and recommend this case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...CY0R72CAW7Q&ref_=pd_ys_sf_s_2335752011_a2_5_p
It has a soft rubber feel, lowers the likelihood of dropping the phone. Battery life is excellent. I use it when traveling on business.
Last thought. It is ZeroLemon, one of the most trusted names in accessories.
I hope this helps.
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The reviews don't make for pretty reading.

kopkiwi said:
The reviews don't make for pretty reading.
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3 1/2 stars with over 100 reviews. I think that is pretty good for Amazon. Most of the reviews (44%) are 5 star, followed by 33% at 4 star.
The specified goal was long battery life....it gives me 2x the battery that I have without it.
It offers good protection and it reasonably priced.
Do you have an alternative to propose?

koop1955 said:
3 1/2 stars with over 100 reviews. I think that is pretty good for Amazon. Most of the reviews (44%) are 5 star, followed by 33% at 4 star.
The specified goal was long battery life....it gives me 2x the battery that I have without it.
It offers good protection and it reasonably priced.
Do you have an alternative to propose?
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Mophie seems to be the better case, but boy is it overpriced.

I don't know how you guys like these thick and ugly cases. I'm sure it also adds a lot of weight to the phone.
I am also looking for one, but do not like any of those.

I'm about to get a morphie case for this device. Will give feedback when I get it.
Getting like 50% off it lol. Let's see how it is

guaneet said:
I'm about to get a morphie case for this device. Will give feedback when I get it.
Getting like 50% off it lol. Let's see how it is
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How are you getting 50%?

Lifeproof FRE case with an extended battery or a Wireless charging back cover?

I'm not too sure if this is the right place to ask all of this, but here it goes:
I'm heavily considering an S5, especially since it is has some waterproofing, has an OLED screen, and many features that budget phones today do not have. Lifeproof also offers a case(albeit expensive) that makes it much more waterproof and 'drop-proof'. Would there be any similar cases that you would recommend, that increase waterproofing and make it drop proof?
However, I'm also pretty worried about the battery life. How much time can the stock 2800 mAh battery get you? I'm pretty sure the Lifeproof case won't work with really any extended battery.
And while I don't know the practicality of it, how necessary/cool is a wireless charging cover? I think it's a really cool thing for something as old as an S5, but I'm not too sure if it's worth the tradeoff(s). I have seen posts here saying that the wireless charging cover is somewhat compatible with the Lifeproof case, but inconvenient.
A final question, although not really an accessory question, is where should I get an S5 from? Will the popular ebay ones do for rooting? I need it unlocked though

YeshYyyK said:
I'm not too sure if this is the right place to ask all of this, but here it goes:
I'm heavily considering an S5, especially since it is has some waterproofing, has an OLED screen, and many features that budget phones today do not have. Lifeproof also offers a case(albeit expensive) that makes it much more waterproof and 'drop-proof'. Would there be any similar cases that you would recommend, that increase waterproofing and make it drop proof?
However, I'm also pretty worried about the battery life. How much time can the stock 2800 mAh battery get you? I'm pretty sure the Lifeproof case won't work with really any extended battery.
And while I don't know the practicality of it, how necessary/cool is a wireless charging cover? I think it's a really cool thing for something as old as an S5, but I'm not too sure if it's worth the tradeoff(s). I have seen posts here saying that the wireless charging cover is somewhat compatible with the Lifeproof case, but inconvenient.
A final question, although not really an accessory question, is where should I get an S5 from? Will the popular ebay ones do for rooting? I need it unlocked though
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Hello and welcome the s5 is a good choice to have and it can hold its own as for the waterproof case you could just get the life proof if it suits your needs but I personally don't have one that's water proof.for wireless charging it is good for over night or if your at work but the charge rate is slow so I would just get a long charging cable
For the battery I get about 5 to 6 hours screen on time it all depends on daily usage and what apps your using
And for buying a s5 I paid £40 for mine all working but the paint has started coming off the bezel if you can get one private of sites like shpock or Gumtree then you should get one cheap if not eBay or amazon then I bought a zagg invisible shield off eBay for £0.99p and a hard case for the same price

Incredible combination Oreo and Extended battery

I have to report a huge increase in functionality when adding three things: Oreo, the official v20 charging cradle and an extended 6,700 mAh battery that actually fits in the official charging cradle. If you use a 3.0 charging station the battery will charge quickly. I just ordered a second battery ($25.90 each on Amazon) so I can l use my phone as a hot spot with my Samsung Chromebook Pro for long stretches. It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use. I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore. The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues. And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall. The Oreo update (Verizon) has massively improved my battery time. With extended battery I'm getting closer and closer to 8 hours screen on time and the phone still fits in my button dowm shirt front pocket. I was barely hitting 3 hours SOT with the stock 3,300 batteries (I have 5 that I picked up cheap). I guess I can now wait for that Note 9 to come down in price even if the black Friday deal is weak sauce.

Aintree Porsche said:
I have to report a huge increase in functionality when adding three things: Oreo, the official v20 charging cradle and an extended 6,700 mAh battery that actually fits in the official charging cradle. If you use a 3.0 charging station the battery will charge quickly. I just ordered a second battery ($25.90 each on Amazon) so I can l use my phone as a hot spot with my Samsung Chromebook Pro for long stretches. It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use. I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore. The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues. And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall. The Oreo update (Verizon) has massively improved my battery time. With extended battery I'm getting closer and closer to 8 hours screen on time and the phone still fits in my button dowm shirt front pocket. I was barely hitting 3 hours SOT with the stock 3,300 batteries (I have 5 that I picked up cheap). I guess I can now wait for that Note 9 to come down in price even if the black Friday deal is weak sauce.
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Hi Aintree, what is the battery called, and link? please if you dont mind.

Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)

ssnova said:
Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
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I honestly don't see the software flaw. it's flawless and buttery smooth. Despite the slow updates, its the best phone. You can customize the UI from play store themes without having CM ROMS or any special thing. Samsung does have that, and is very limited.

YPG70 said:
Hi Aintree, what is the battery called, and link? please if you dont mind.
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iPosible battery $25.90 on Amazon
But just FYI without the official V20 charging cradle (the little white one with the door) I was getting very slow charging for some reason. I had it plugged into a Quick Charge 3.0 port the lightning bolt icon would appear to show it was quick charge capable but it would charge really slowly over 4 hours once from 15% to 80%. With the V20 cradle it charged from 0 to 100% in about 2 hours abd 15 minutes.

YPG70 said:
I honestly don't see the software flaw. it's flawless and buttery smooth. Despite the slow updates, its the best phone. You can customize the UI from play store themes without having CM ROMS or any special thing. Samsung does have that, and is very limited.
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"slow updates", that's mostly what I was referring to when describing it's "flaws" (security patches especially...). But yeah, hardware wise, it's a great phone

Aintree Porsche said:
It's not SUPER THICK like the popular 10,000 mAh extended battery that I also have, instead the 6,700 mAh battery keeps it way more doable for every day use.
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How's the grip on this case ?
I also notice that the battery heat issues from the stock 3,300 mAh size battery are not a big issue anymore.The hot battery was giving really bad display image issues.
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I never had heat issues with the stock battery
And the other extended batteries would not fit in any of the official or aftermarket battery charging cradles so I could only charge those big batteries in the phone which meant it had to be done when plugged into the wall.
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Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9

One Twelve said:
How's the grip on this case ?
I never had heat issues with the stock battery
Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
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Yep that's the one.
I shouldn't have said heat issue, the phone getting hot in the the last 15% of battery is not unheard of. But it definitely seems to make the image retention/ghosting or whatever you want to call it, worse. The solution for me seems to be to use a battery that will be more likely to keep you above 15% if you are a heavy user. 6700 mAh will do the trick. Better than stock by double but not like carrying a stapler in your pocket with 10,000 maAh. Btw, I've had that screen issue on two V10's and two V20's. Actually it happened sooner with the V20. Major flaw of this type of display.
Grip on the case is fine. The standard black matte finish type rubber that has plenty of flex albeit a little on the stiff side. I use Di-Noc carbon fiber wrap on most of my devices like the back od my laptop, my FiiO DAC, phone cases even my bicycle frame. I might cut out a square for this one.

ssnova said:
Thanks for sharing your results. This is why I appreciate the ability to remove the battery, and despite some of the V20's flaws(mostly software), I consider it one of the last "great phones" out there due to it's user replaceable battery, among other features (even the IR blaster, not to mention the headphone jack... can't believe Sony removed the 3.5mm from their latest phones...!!!)
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Yeah that was dumb by Sony to remove the headphone jack. They basically lost all the audio enthusiasts. Bluetooth has come a long way but it will never have the sound stage of a top end corded headphone. I would have gone with a Sony phone if they worked well or at all on Verizon. Their 4K phones have by far the best displays on the market. OLED is great and all but you can't beat the realism of a Sony 4K display. It's like looking through a glass window. No yellowy tinge of the OLED displays.

Further to your Bluetooth comment.
In the Oreo update Google put in a new codec called LDAC, this codec was developed by Sony but surprisingly left open source by them for others to use.
There are a few other manufacturers besides the Sony Bluetooth models (earbuds, speakers, etc) that are just coming to market.
The interesting part is that the LDAC codec is head and shoulders above the previous best AptX HD. I'm no expert but I think as this codec takes hold that it could give equal performance to wireless outside of the audiophile domain ($$$$$).
I can see in the not to distant future that I'm going to purchase a set of Bluetooth LDAC earbuds to give them a try.
In the "developer options" in Oreo settings if you scroll down there is a section for Bluetooth that lets you set the codec - if you want to see.
You should read up on LDAC if you haven't already, I found it interesting.
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Yeah that was dumb by Sony to remove the headphone jack. They basically lost all the audio enthusiasts. Bluetooth has come a long way but it will never have the sound stage of a top end corded headphone. I would have gone with a Sony phone if they worked well or at all on Verizon. Their 4K phones have by far the best displays on the market. OLED is great and all but you can't beat the realism of a Sony 4K display. It's like looking through a glass window. No yellowy tinge of the OLED displays.
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Aintree Porsche said:
Yep that's the one.
I shouldn't have said heat issue, the phone getting hot in the the last 15% of battery is not unheard of. But it definitely seems to make the image retention/ghosting or whatever you want to call it, worse. The solution for me seems to be to use a battery that will be more likely to keep you above 15% if you are a heavy user. 6700 mAh will do the trick. Better than stock by double but not like carrying a stapler in your pocket with 10,000 maAh. Btw, I've had that screen issue on two V10's and two V20's. Actually it happened sooner with the V20. Major flaw of this type of display.
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10,000 is too big. 6000 more manageable.
What's your brightness set to in % usually ?
I've never had any image retention problems and the reason i suspect is i don't need more than 25% indoors.
Brighter the screen, hotter it runs, quicker battery runs down and in turn also heats as the power draw is higher.
Grip on the case is fine. The standard black matte finish type rubber that has plenty of flex albeit a little on the stiff side. I use Di-Noc carbon fiber wrap on most of my devices like the back od my laptop, my FiiO DAC, phone cases even my bicycle frame. I might cut out a square for this one.
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Looks quite thick compared to what dbrand and similar sells.

One Twelve said:
10,000 is too big. 6000 more manageable.
What's your brightness set to in % usually ?
I've never had any image retention problems and the reason i suspect is i don't need more than 25% indoors.
Brighter the screen, hotter it runs, quicker battery runs down and in turn also heats as the power draw is higher.
Looks quite thick compared to what dbrand and similar sells.
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I always run my screens at least 70% brightness. 100% outside which is often. I figure If I'm going to have the ability to not worry about battery life then I should put the display to the durability test. I've never had burn in or image retention issues with any Apple, Moto, Nexus or Samsung device display. After 10pm I run blue light so I don't get a weird sleep issue. But it's funny that image issues finally came to one of my phones and it happened on this device first before OLEDs despite their infamous history of burn in.
The Dbrand skins look nice. But I can get a roll of 3M Do-Noc for the same price. Wrapping a square or rectangular shape is about a simple as it gets. And it looks Better than stock.

No backcover - could be problematic
One Twelve said:
How's the grip on this case ?
I never had heat issues with the stock battery
Good point. You mentioned this battery works in the official charging cradle which i have.
Link to the actual product described which is missing in this thread so far
https://www.amazon.com/iPosible-Extended-Protection-Versions-Warranty/dp/B071R2NZH9
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- I had it delivered today and after about 3 hours of use ended but returning it because it does not come with a backcover. It comes with a rubber case that is somewhat loose and will no doubt allow dust and maybe even moisture to leak into the phone easily. Could be problematic especially if you are more on the active side - I like hiking and trekking. Ended up ordering a combo Pefine 6400mah extended battery along with the Hyperion extended battery TPU case. The backcover on the Perfine is plastic, but should STILL offers the needed protection and the Hyperion case will fit on top of that which will prevent the backcover from breaking.
If the iPosible battery is the same depth as the Perfine, perhaps the backcover can fit as well but I cant seem to find an extended battery backcover on Amazon.
Perfine battery (comes with 2 backcovers) [Amazon.com]
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itchydroid said:
- I had it delivered today and after about 3 hours of use ended but returning it because it does not come with a backcover. It comes with a rubber case that is somewhat loose and will no doubt allow dust and maybe even moisture to leak into the phone easily. Could be problematic especially if you are more on the active side - I like hiking and trekking. Ended up ordering a combo Pefine 6400mah extended battery along with the Hyperion extended battery TPU case. The backcover on the Perfine is plastic, but should STILL offers the needed protection and the Hyperion case will fit on top of that which will prevent the backcover from breaking.
If the iPosible battery is the same depth as the Perfine, perhaps the backcover can fit as well but I cant seem to find an extended battery backcover on Amazon.
Perfine battery (comes with 2 backcovers) [Amazon.com]
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I think they should send you a new case. Mine is a very tight fit. Much tighter than the other cases I use like Spigen which peel right off with one hand almost.

Aintree Porsche said:
I think they should send you a new case. Mine is a very tight fit. Much tighter than the other cases I use like Spigen which peel right off with one hand almost.
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Perhaps you are right. The case I recived other than having many scuffs was loose. The Spigen likewise is also just a case. The backcover that Im taking about is the piece of tin or plastic that covers the internals (like the metal backcover that comes with the stock lg phone). A case should slip on top of the backcover. In the case of the iPosible, its the battery + the rubber case - no backcover. It might absorb shock but not sure how because well it insulates the internals from dust or water since its rubber and is elastic and not as waterproof. The v20 is not advertised as waterproof in the first place so this would make it more vulnerable to environment.

itchydroid said:
Perhaps you are right. The case I recived other than having many scuffs was loose. The Spigen likewise is also just a case. The backcover that Im taking about is the piece of tin or plastic that covers the internals (like the metal backcover that comes with the stock lg phone). A case should slip on top of the backcover. In the case of the iPosible, its the battery + the rubber case - no backcover. It might absorb shock but not sure how because well it insulates the internals from dust or water since its rubber and is elastic and not as waterproof. The v20 is not advertised as waterproof in the first place so this would make it more vulnerable to environment.
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I have been using the perfine battery with the plastic battery case for 4 months now and, it has been the best decision that I have did on two H918's that I have. They are available on Amazon right now.

scorpio76r said:
I have been using the perfine battery with the plastic battery case for 4 months now and, it has been the best decision that I have did on two H918's that I have. They are available on Amazon right now.
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Yeah it's not as secure as having a back cover. But I have never used these to reduce weight. On most cases the fit is tight enough to keep the battery in place. If you ever do have an issue and the little strip for water damage turns red but the phone is otherwise fine you can turn the strip white again by taking q-tip and small amount of Clorox bleach and the red will go away.

Update on Screen On Time. Pretty incredible for this phone.

Aintree Porsche said:
Yeah it's not as secure as having a back cover. But I have never used these to reduce weight. On most cases the fit is tight enough to keep the battery in place. If you ever do have an issue and the little strip for water damage turns red but the phone is otherwise fine you can turn the strip white again by taking q-tip and small amount of Clorox bleach and the red will go away.
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I have had no issues since using the battery or included back case. Water has not been a issue either. I don't submerge it in water or anything but, rain, light spills etc. My two devices have been good.

scorpio76r said:
I have had no issues since using the battery or included back case. Water has not been a issue either. I don't submerge it in water or anything but, rain, light spills etc. My two devices have been good.
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How's the grip no the back of that perfine case. Looks slippery to me.
Id just swap batteries if i wanted and retain the same form factor but with a case of my choice or one that takes my fancy on the particular day.