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I'll start off by saying this is not a question regarding which phone but more so about what buying an unlocked phone gives/ doesn't give you.
In the past 6 years I have spent time with almost every U.S. carrier, even some twice, and purchased over 30 phones but for whatever reason have never purchased an unlocked phone or used one from anothee carrier other than the one I am on.
I am currently considering an unlocked Sensation or GS2 and was wondering..
How do OTA updated work with unlocked phones?
What issues and options from AT&T do I lose with an unlocked phone?
I assume you have no warranty even through the manufacture?
Any other downsides to using an unlocked phone?
Where are the best places to buy?
GS2 Specific questions
Is it confirmed that the AT&T version will have NFC?
Any solid information on a release date?
Thanks for any help!
I've been using the Moto G as a second phone for a while now but now my HTC One isn't working ill be using it as my primary phone for a while.
Never got around to unlocking bootloader,rooting,etc until now, went to unlock bootloader and it's giving me a message saying the bootloader cannot be unlocked, WTF i assumed all Moto G bootloaders could be unlocked, bought it on Tesco UK website and got the phone unlocked to all networks, it's the 8GB model, is there anything i can do here folks?
Has this not happened to anyone else? It said I didn't qualify for unlocking.
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The verizon cdma models can't be unlocked either.
There is a bounty here to try and find a developer to unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2669498
Can't believe this ****, how can some Tesco UK models be unlocked no problem and mine can't.
Maybe if I contact Motorola direct they might be able to shed some light on the issue.
If it's a case can't unlock it I'll never buy a Motorola phone ever again.
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Try exchanging it, might get lucky.
Doubt they'll exchange it at this stage.
I've been reading that if you try a few times it might work, there's no reason why a Tesco UK Moto G can't be unlocked bootloader, Verizon in USA but I've not heard of any Tesco.
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I'm currently thinking of buying a carrier-subsidized Xperia Z3 in Nova Scotia, but I need to know if I'll be able to unlock the bootloader. I know that Sony has instructions on their website, but I was under the impression that individual carriers could still permanently lock down the device. I believe there's a service menu line that says something like "bootloader unlock allowed: yes/no".
Does anyone have a Rogers Z3? What about WIND or Bell?
I assume they all have permanently locked bootloaders, but it would be nice to confirm.
I'm curious about this too with the Bell phones.
Does anyone have any updates on whether or not the Bell phone bootloaders can be unlocked? Any known issues if you can, like the camera being degraded like some people have reported?
Hi, on Wind mobile here and checked out the settings last night - was sad to see "unlock boot loader = no" / everything I have read so far would seem to indicate that if your phone says this you are out of luck. I'll hold out some hope that someone eventually proves this wrong in the thread. I'd really like to try out the "mirror" app from clockwork and without boot loader unlock we can't get root
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i just got one from Rogers and mine also says no. but I'm trying it anyways hoping it works. some people say there is way through you just have to find it so im hoping and trying. I don't want this garbage bloatware and what not.
fptp01 said:
i just got one from Rogers and mine also says no. but I'm trying it anyways hoping it works. some people say there is way through you just have to find it so im hoping and trying. I don't want this garbage bloatware and what not.
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This is unfortunately why ive shyed away from sonys devices which we get in canada. If it says no its not happening..ive followed the Z series from the orig up to now always hoping rogers could be unlocked but its never happened so i never bought one.
Its too bad since the z series are beautiful devices but i refuse to buy any device i can't unlock.
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force70 said:
This is unfortunately why ive shyed away from sonys devices which we get in canada. If it says no its not happening..ive followed the Z series from the orig up to now always hoping rogers could be unlocked but its never happened so i never bought one.
Its too bad since the z series are beautiful devices but i refuse to buy any device i can't unlock.
sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3 or 2.
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i hate how backwards ass we are in this ****ing country when it comes to cellphones.
fptp01 said:
i hate how backwards ass we are in this ****ing country when it comes to cellphones.
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I wasnt going to buy a note 4 but with the G3 and Z3 bootloaders locked down..wasnt alot of choice.
The 64g white nexus 6 isnt even avail in canada yet...we get everything last here....except snow.
sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3 or 2.
all sony devices in canada "carrier subsidized > Rogers, Bell, Telus, Wind" have permenently locked bootloaders (in my experience with Xperia's Z, Z1, Z2, Z3)
Only "factory unlocked" Xperia devices bought from a Sony Store or Sony online have unlockable bootloaders
sorry to be the bearer of bad news
hailGNex said:
all sony devices in canada "carrier subsidized > Rogers, Bell, Telus, Wind" have permenently locked bootloaders (in my experience with Xperia's Z, Z1, Z2, Z3)
Only "factory unlocked" Xperia devices bought from a Sony Store or Sony online have unlockable bootloaders
sorry to be the bearer of bad news
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In addition to this, I've contacted Sony Store in Canada to see if bootloader is unlockable and still no. They said even the ones sold it Canadian Sony Store are Rogers branded. So to really get non-carrier branded you'd have to get from Sony Store US. Screw CAD telecoms.
I have a Bell Z3 and bootloader cannot be unlocked.
Only bad thing about it.
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In addition to this, I've contacted Sony Store in Canada to see if bootloader is unlockable and still no. They said even the ones sold it Canadian Sony Store are Rogers branded. So to really get non-carrier branded you'd have to get from Sony Store US. Screw CAD telecoms.
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No, yes you can buy carrier branded Xperia devices at a Sony store, but you can also get unbranded with unlockable bootloaders!.
I live in Toronto, Ontario and bough my Z3 from the Sony store in Scarborough Town Centre, unlocked and unbranded BNIB.....so that person you spoke too is full of it!
The day I bought mine I asap put my public Mobile sim card into it and it worked flawlessly, in addition im now with telus and have no issues.
Hi there. A few months ago a friend dropped my xperia z1s and I made an insurance claim for a new one (as the new model wasn't out yet and I wanted to keep same phone). However my new model has an issue with the vibrator and I'm looking to upgrade. Now I told myself that because of the locked bootloader I would buy direct from Sony next time around. However am I correct in assuming that I will not be able to take advantage of WiFi calling unless I purchase direct from T-Mobile? I would prefer to buy the z3 compact from sony, but if wifi calling is not an option and I have to purchase my own insurance I think I'd rather just deal with tmobile.
If I were to use my t-mobile jump promo to upgrade to the Z3... can it be easily rooted and recovery be flashed (on the latest version of android) today?
Thanks in advance for all of your assistance. Please limit information specifically to the t-mobile model.
If you buy the international Z3 or Z3 compact, you will not have WiFi calling
If you buy the T-Mobile Z3, there is currently no way to root, and the bootloader is not unlockable. It will come with Android 4.4.4
se1000 said:
If you buy the international Z3 or Z3 compact, you will not have WiFi calling
If you buy the T-Mobile Z3, there is currently no way to root, and the bootloader is not unlockable. It will come with Android 4.4.4
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The Z3 still hasn't received 4.4.4?
It comes with 4.4.4, I think he meant something else?
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It comes with 4.4.4, I think he meant something else?
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Does he mean that you can't root the latest firmware or that it hasn't been rooted at all? I was under the impression the last trick I used to root my z1s cam was a method designed for the z3.
What do you think of the phone?
You cant root the D6616 yet as it has no bootloader unlock. I can live with that, Android has come a long way where root is not as important as it once was, well unless you want to try out new ROM and other mods of course.
As for the phone, its great. Not counting the 3 exchanges for cosmetic defects. I was going to get the LG G3 but after seeing the worse battery life (compared to my G2) and low contrast screen, it seemed like a downgrade, so I decided the Xperia Z3 was the only worthy succesor to my LG G2.
Can root now be obtained?/JUMP process
So I've heard that root can be obtained now on a T-mobile Z3. Is there anyone on here that has actually done this.
I had to make an insurance claim a while back and they send me a pre-owned z1s. Vibrate stops working periodically and the battery life isn't nearly as good. Apparently the previous owner didn't subscribe to the 80/40 regimen that I do with lithium batteries. So I'm looking to upgrade. Probably going to purchase the compact direct from sony too, but I want to be able to use wi-fi calling as well.
How does the jump process work btw?
POMF2K said:
So I've heard that root can be obtained now on a T-mobile Z3. Is there anyone on here that has actually done this.
I had to make an insurance claim a while back and they send me a pre-owned z1s. Vibrate stops working periodically and the battery life isn't nearly as good. Apparently the previous owner didn't subscribe to the 80/40 regimen that I do with lithium batteries. So I'm looking to upgrade. Probably going to purchase the compact direct from sony too, but I want to be able to use wi-fi calling as well.
How does the jump process work btw?
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There is currently no method available to successfully root the T-Mobile variant of the Z3 (D6616). The one root method available does NOT work on TMO Z3 unfortunately.
As for the JUMP process, the way it works is that you give T-Mobile back your old/current device and they forgive you for the balance you owe on it through your equipment installment payments. They then allow you to "JUMP" to a new device for practically nothing (you only pay the taxes on the full price of the phone) but the catch is you are starting a new set of payments for whatever phone you jump to. Also, you can activate jump twice a year.
If you are going to be purchasing your device directly from Sony, then you wont be able to use JUMP to get it, as you can only activate it if purchasing directly from T-Mobile.
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There is currently no method available to successfully root the T-Mobile variant of the Z3 (D6616). The one root method available does NOT work on TMO Z3 unfortunately.
As for the JUMP process, the way it works is that you give T-Mobile back your old/current device and they forgive you for the balance you owe on it through your equipment installment payments. They then allow you to "JUMP" to a new device for practically nothing (you only pay the taxes on the full price of the phone) but the catch is you are starting a new set of payments for whatever phone you jump to. Also, you can activate jump twice a year.
If you are going to be purchasing your device directly from Sony, then you wont be able to use JUMP to get it, as you can only activate it if purchasing directly from T-Mobile.
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I had heard this was now possible...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...available-for-phones-with-locked-bootloaders/
POMF2K said:
I had heard this was now possible...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...available-for-phones-with-locked-bootloaders/
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Not for the Z3v
The method you linked relies on key information gained from rooted devices (Via unlocking the bootloader) since the Z3v cannot unlock the bootloader the information is inaccessible to make a root method for locked bootloaders
Isn't the z3v the Verizon Wireless version? Also the article specifically refers to T-Mobile.
Are all Nexus 5 capable of having their bootloader unlocked?
I found a refurbished Nexus 5 for sale, but apparently it's for Freedompop. I don't care anything about Freedompop, I use Cricket, but it's a decent price for the phone.
My thought were to just put CM13 on it and use it on Cricket. But since it's sold for use with Freedompop, I wasn't sure if it would be capable of being unlocked. I thought all Nexus devices were unlockable, but I may be wrong on that.
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Are all Nexus 5 capable of having their bootloader unlocked?
I found a refurbished Nexus 5 for sale, but apparently it's for Freedompop. I don't care anything about Freedompop, I use Cricket, but it's a decent price for the phone.
My thought were to just put CM13 on it and use it on Cricket. But since it's sold for use with Freedompop, I wasn't sure if it would be capable of being unlocked. I thought all Nexus devices were unlockable, but I may be wrong on that.
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All N5 has unlockable bootloader.