This is a question on the Computer CPU with the new Windows 8 and Android.
I am considering upgrading my tower to a new CPU and wondering if the Windows 8 and Android have any problems? I don't know a h**l of a lot about the OS and running Windows 7 now. I have read several articles that preinstalled Windows 8 can't be downgraded as there is a built in glitch on the OS and the motherboard that prevents the downgrade and will kill the CPU. I am maybe considering building a system and installing Windows 7 but I don't know a lot about competely building a computer unit. I have installed various components and had luck with that. I can find only one factory built that meets what I want in a CPU but like most its preinstalled with windows 8. So I was just wondering if there is any problems with flashing roms and such from a windows 8 unit before I ditch out 5 or 6 hundred for a new computer.
leesumm said:
This is a question on the Computer CPU with the new Windows 8 and Android.
I am considering upgrading my tower to a new CPU and wondering if the Windows 8 and Android have any problems? I don't know a h**l of a lot about the OS and running Windows 7 now. I have read several articles that preinstalled Windows 8 can't be downgraded as there is a built in glitch on the OS and the motherboard that prevents the downgrade and will kill the CPU. I am maybe considering building a system and installing Windows 7 but I don't know a lot about competely building a computer unit. I have installed various components and had luck with that. I can find only one factory built that meets what I want in a CPU but like most its preinstalled with windows 8. So I was just wondering if there is any problems with flashing roms and such from a windows 8 unit before I ditch out 5 or 6 hundred for a new computer.
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The only issue I have seen is USB drivers not recognizing Android Devices and problems installing the drivers.
Here is the link for the way to resolve the issue http://kwangzspace.wordpress.com/20...alling-android-usb-driver-in-windows-8-64bit/
Hope this helps.
Venomtester said:
The only issue I have seen is USB drivers not recognizing Android Devices and problems installing the drivers.
Here is the link for the way to resolve the issue http://kwangzspace.wordpress.com/20...alling-android-usb-driver-in-windows-8-64bit/
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Ok, thanks, I haven't taken the step yet to upgrade but been debating the issue. My computer is slow and getting slower with all the software and such today. Being computer illiterate , I don't really know if to try to keep win 7 or go with win 8. However which way I am considering a 1T HD and about 16 gig ram with an i5 or i7 chip. I am hopeing when done it will fly and pass a F-18. With my present set up it takes about 45 seconds to copy a zip to the phone. AT 65 now and retired I feel the need for speed.
leesumm said:
Ok, thanks, I haven't taken the step yet to upgrade but been debating the issue. My computer is slow and getting slower with all the software and such today. Being computer illiterate , I don't really know if to try to keep win 7 or go with win 8. However which way I am considering a 1T HD and about 16 gig ram with an i5 or i7 chip. I am hopeing when done it will fly and pass a F-18. With my present set up it takes about 45 seconds to copy a zip to the phone. AT 65 now and retired I feel the need for speed.
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With that setup you could run a small country lol.
Crazy processor and way overkill on ram only to be crazy bottlenecked by a mechanical drive lol
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Crazy processor and way overkill on ram only to be crazy bottlenecked by a mechanical drive lol
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Yes indeed. SS would be the way to go.
so i saw that the apple a7 chip is actually just a snapdragon 800 processor just like our nexus 5, does that mean the nexus 5 kernel does support 64bit?
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so i saw that the apple a7 chip is actually just a snapdragon 800 processor just like our nexus 5, does that mean the nexus 5 kernel does support 64bit?
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No, it doesnt. The entire system has to be optimised for 64-bit and not only the chip.
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No, it doesnt. The entire system has to be optimised for 64-bit and not only the chip.
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Android wouldn't really need to be optimized for 64-bit like the iPhone 5s because Android uses a virtual machine (Dalvik) to run apps, whereas iOS runs applications natively so those applications would need to be optimized for 64-bit.
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Android wouldn't really need to be optimized for 64-bit like the iPhone 5s because Android uses a virtual machine (Dalvik) to run apps, whereas iOS runs applications natively so those applications would need to be optimized for 64-bit.
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Thanks. learned something.
Toxina said:
so i saw that the apple a7 chip is actually just a snapdragon 800 processor just like our nexus 5, does that mean the nexus 5 kernel does support 64bit?
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just FYI , right now 64bit on iOS is a gimmick , notice i said " right now" ... dont you find it odd Apple never mention specs ? didnt tell us what the CPU speed was , how much ram... but all of a sudden , they tell us its 64bit architecture? hmm
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Android wouldn't really need to be optimized for 64-bit like the iPhone 5s because Android uses a virtual machine (Dalvik) to run apps, whereas iOS runs applications natively so those applications would need to be optimized for 64-bit.
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Incorrect. Much,much, MUCH, of android is native code (even the dalvik interpreter), which is dominated by ARMv7 architecture at the moment. With the transition to 64 bit ARM (AArch64 mode on the ARMv8 processor), the kernel, drivers, bionic libc library, libgralloc (graphics), and countless other libraries need to be ported to 64 bit. This involves 64 bit compilers becoming release quality, and code reviews to ensure that pointer casts are handled appropriately for the transition to a larger address map.
However, there is nothing inherently better about '64 bit' and the Snapdragon 800 chip is a monster.
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Incorrect. Much,much, MUCH, of android is native code, which is currently ARMv7. With the transition to 64 bit ARM (AArch64 mode on the ARMv8 processor), the kernel, drivers, bionic libc library, libgralloc (graphics), and countless other libraries need to be ported to 64 bit. This involves 64 bit compilers becoming release quality, and code reviews to ensure that pointer casts are handled appropriately for the transition to a larger address map.
However, there is nothing inherently better about '64 bit' and the Snapdragon 800 chip is a monster.
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Learn something new every day But the apps themselves on Android wouldn't need to be re-written for 64-bit like they do on the iPhone 5S, right?
Back to Apple's A7 chip, I think Apple did this to get a head start on 64-bit development; I doubt the iPhone 5S has 3.5GB+ of RAM so 64-bit doesn't seem practical for the 5S.
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Learn something new every day But the apps themselves on Android wouldn't need to be re-written for 64-bit like they do on the iPhone 5S, right?
Back to Apple's A7 chip, I think Apple did this to get a head start on 64-bit development; I doubt the iPhone 5S has 3.5GB+ of RAM so 64-bit doesn't seem practical for the 5S.
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Yes and No. Some Apps (most Games) run native code the would have to be rewitten in 64bit.
I think it has been confirmed that the 5S has 1GB of Ram.
64-bit is meh.. its going to take time for it to mature. Its still in its infant stages and will take time... but eventually down the road, it'll become the standard. For now, I don't think its that much of a thing to look at when buying a phone.
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64-bit is meh.. its going to take time for it to mature. Its still in its infant stages and will take time... but eventually down the road, it'll become the standard. For now, I don't think its that much of a thing to look at when buying a phone.
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Yep. In fact, the best thing about 64 bit is the ability to see a 4GB+ memory space. ARMv8 does a nice job of cleaning up the instruction set (I spend my days writing ARMv8 right now), but I expect power to be an issue even at the cost of possible speed improvements due to doubling neon/VFP registers and other such improvements
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Yep. In fact, the best thing about 64 bit is the ability to see a 4GB+ memory space. ARMv8 does a nice job of cleaning up the instruction set (I spend my days writing ARMv8 right now), but I expect power to be an issue even at the cost of possible speed improvements due to doubling neon/VFP registers and other such improvements
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This...
If the addressable mem space (RAM) goes unutilized, the cleaner instruction set remains the only pro. For now, gimmick.... Down the line, standard.
booooom
A7 is not by any means close to a Snapdragon, completely different designs. But similar performance though.
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Greetings!
Our tablet (GT-P5210) is extremely close to the makings of an ativ tab 3. I'm researching anything I can that surrounds Intel based tablets (more specifically the clover-trail/clover-trail+ platforms) and how roms are flashed to them. I've found that in order to flash any Samsung windows based device, you must plug in a keyboard. Has anyone tried holding the windows key down at boot using a regular keyboard using the otg cable and a properly formatted SD card or USB stick with Windows 8.1 32-bit, all to see if anything happens at all on our tabs? I seriously doubt anything will come of it as the boot loader is for android, but you never know...
Also, I found this on the Microsoft website:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...m=gt-p5210&Type=Hardware&tempOsid=Windows 8.1
Interesting to say the least...
How can we go about adding an option into CWM or TWRP to boot from sd card? That may be all we need...
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I'm willing to throw a couple litecoins into a pool to get this going. I don't think a bounty could hurt....
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I'm researching how to chainload something on our devices...
I'm thinking if I can get a multirom cooked up with the second rom being a simple chainloader to another bootloader, we may have something. Someone please provide input as i'm blindly going about this...
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I'm researching how to chainload something on our devices...
I'm thinking if I can get a multirom cooked up with the second rom being a simple chainloader to another bootloader, we may have something. Someone please provide input as i'm blindly going about this...
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I'd love to help you with this any way I can, PM me?
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I'd love to help you with this any way I can, PM me?
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We need to get this ported in...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
After that, we should be able to boot some sort of a linux distro... Which is a step in the right direction.
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We need to get this ported in...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
After that, we should be able to boot some sort of a linux distro... Which is a step in the right direction.
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Way easier said than done. Forgetting for a second that it's a completely different bootloader, much of the intel-specific things are not available in the source tree. Not impossible, but it's a fairly large project.
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We need to get this ported in...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
After that, we should be able to boot some sort of a linux distro... Which is a step in the right direction.
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That being said, I'm still willing to go the mile.
I don't think it's a full bootloader...
I believe the mod is of 3 parts:
1.) A mod to TWRP (Adds the multiboot option to advanced)
2.) Kernel Edit (kexec-hardboot patch)
3.) The multirom.zip mod files.
I've been wanting to do the same thing since the Tab 3 came out I also came to the same conclusions as you but I didn't know about the multiboot tool
I'm sure we can do SOMETHING if some people smarter than us work on it I think Linux will be easy and even Windows can be made to work on the tab 3
Only time will tell though
Good luch
@mobile_mogul I'll try the keyboard thing and report back. AFAIK i don't think it's going to work as Samsng uses their own custom bootloader.
But who knows
If only this was possible !!!
Wow, talk about trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. Even if it was possible and I highly doubt it, the experience would be dreadful at best. With only 1GB RAM, 16GB of slow SSD space, a CPU that has half of the CPU score that a current Quadcore Atom tablet has, I shudder the thought.You are much better in trying to get Android working on a Dell Venue Pro 8, which is a fantastic tablet by the way, than the other way around. It would also benefit a much larger community, where as this maybe a handful would want.
What do you have against Tab 3 10.1 ?
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Wow, talk about trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. Even if it was possible and I highly doubt it, the experience would be dreadful at best. With only 1GB RAM, 16GB of slow SSD space, a CPU that has half of the CPU score that a current Quadcore Atom tablet has, I shudder the thought.You are much better in trying to get Android working on a Dell Venue Pro 8, which is a fantastic tablet by the way, than the other way around. It would also benefit a much larger community, where as this maybe a handful would want.
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I wonder what's wrong with you !!! Because we were on another discussion about Tab 3 8.0 vs Tab 3 10.1 earler
Windows is running on a friend computer which have Intel Genuine T2050 CPU and 1gb of RAM !!!
It's just running fine !
Genuine CPU should NOT such faster than Atom Z2560. And Atom Z2560 does support Intel VT-X and HyperThreading Technology.
Go here and read comments.
Windows 8 requires almost the same thing as Windows 7.
Windows 8/7 canNOT run on an ARM arch anyhow !!! While it's possible for Tab 3 if you've the necessary knowledge.
Don't Compare an x86 CPU to a QuadCore Armel cpu
All QuadCores won't pass x86 CPUs, True Octa Cores and CPUs with Krait instead of Cortex should perform better.
Even if you have 2X True Octa Cores CPU (16 Cores) you canNOT install anyhow Windows 8 on it unless you've an ISO for ARM CPUs.
If you don't like Tab 3, you should simply headout the forum :silly:
(Kidding )
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I wonder what's wrong with you !!! Because we were on another discussion about Tab 3 8.0 vs Tab 3 10.1 earler
Windows is running on a friend computer which have Intel Genuine T2050 CPU and 1gb of RAM !!!
It's just running fine !
Genuine CPU should NOT such faster than Atom Z2560. And Atom Z2560 does support Intel VT-X and HyperThreading Technology.
Go here and read comments.
Windows 8 requires almost the same thing as Windows 7.
Windows 8/7 canNOT run on an ARM arch anyhow !!! While it's possible for Tab 3 if you've the necessary knowledge.
Don't Compare an x86 CPU to a QuadCore Armel cpu
All QuadCores won't pass x86 CPUs, True Octa Cores and CPUs with Krait instead of Cortex should perform better.
Even if you have 2X True Octa Cores CPU (16 Cores) you canNOT install anyhow Windows 8 on it unless you've an ISO for ARM CPUs.
If you don't like Tab 3, you should simply headout the forum :silly:
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I wasn't talking about ARM, never came up. I was refering to the Intel Quad Core Atom CPU's found in almost every Windows 8 tablet like the Dell Venue 8 pro. I understand you can install Windows 7 on a machine with such low specs but is it really worth it. Is this project even worth your time, especially when you can purchase said Dell tablet for only 200 dollars now at Amazon. It's 5 times faster than the Tab 3, twice the RAM and twice the SSD, already comes with Windows 8 and Office, plus there are now projects trying to get Android to work on it. I'm not trying to be a **** here but you would also have to look at the benefits that this project would bring to community as a whole. The user would first have to first purchase a license for Windows 8, half the price of the Dell Venue 8 Pro already, install Windows following what I could only imagine, long and detailed instructions that will require loosing Android in the end, so no dual booting. Then they will have a really slow tablet to contend with. I had an Asus VivoTab Smart last year, it had a dual core Atom that was at least twice as fast as the CPU found in the Tab 3, CPU score of 686 according to cpubenchmarks.com and 2 GB of ram and I found the Windows 8 experience to be horrible.
Save yourself some time and buy a Dell Venue 8 Pro for 200 dollars. Their very fast, almost twice the battery life as the Tab 3 10.1 and you will soon be able to install Android on it, with dual booting.
Here's the big one, the firmware in the Tab 3 doesn't support Windows 8, nor can you flash it to make it work. Remember, you'll need a UEFI. Who know's, there a some pretty talented people out there, maybe someone will figure it out but again is it worth their time or yours. There is also no support for the video card, soooo... Why not focus your time in creating a better custom Android ROM, there are only two in the development forums right now and their both crap, bloated and extremely slow. The 10.1 is in desperate need of a barebones Android ROM, that's where your focus should be.
Oh and one more thing, Windows 8 supports ARM, what do you think Windows RT is, it's Windows 8, identical in everyway except it has been compiled for ARM. Prior to Windows 8, Microsoft had an embedded version of Windows that also ran on ARM.
You're funny
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I wasn't talking about ARM, never came up. I was refering to the Intel Quad Core Atom CPU's found in almost every Windows 8 tablet like the Dell Venue 8 pro. I understand you can install Windows 7 on a machine with such low specs but is it really worth it. Is this project even worth your time, especially when you can purchase said Dell tablet for only 200 dollars now at Amazon. It's 5 times faster than the Tab 3, twice the RAM and twice the SSD, already comes with Windows 8 and Office, plus there are now projects trying to get Android to work on it. I'm not trying to be a **** here but you would also have to look at the benefits that this project would bring to community as a whole. The user would first have to first purchase a license for Windows 8, half the price of the Dell Venue 8 Pro already, install Windows following what I could only imagine, long and detailed instructions that will require loosing Android in the end, so no dual booting. Then they will have a really slow tablet to contend with. I had an Asus VivoTab Smart last year, it had a dual core Atom that was at least twice as fast as the CPU found in the Tab 3, CPU score of 686 according to cpubenchmarks.com and 2 GB of ram and I found the Windows 8 experience to be horrible.
Save yourself some time and buy a Dell Venue 8 Pro for 200 dollars. Their very fast, almost twice the battery life as the Tab 3 10.1 and you will soon be able to install Android on it, with dual booting.
Here's the big one, the firmware in the Tab 3 doesn't support Windows 8, nor can you flash it to make it work. Remember, you'll need a UEFI. Who know's, there a some pretty talented people out there, maybe someone will figure it out but again is it worth their time or yours. There is also no support for the video card, soooo... Why not focus your time in creating a better custom Android ROM, there are only two in the development forums right now and their both crap, bloated and extremely slow. The 10.1 is in desperate need of a barebones Android ROM, that's where your focus should be.
Oh and one more thing, Windows 8 supports ARM, what do you think Windows RT is, it's Windows 8, identical in everyway except it has been compiled for ARM. Prior to Windows 8, Microsoft had an embedded version of Windows that also ran on ARM.
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I am in a country where RESTRICTION make all my dreams become a pure nightmare !
I am from Morocco ! I checked almost all online stores and stores I know, I can't find any good Windows 8 tablet
Only Acer Iconia W3-810 is available in almost all stores which really is a CRAP* (windows 8 on 8" screen really looks painful)
I am seriously looking for a good Windows 8 Tablet like Acer W700 or W510 or your so called Dell Venue Pro.
I can found them on ebay or Amazon with ease BUT seller won't ship WOLDWIDE ! Even if they will, I can't pay, since you nedd a credit card or PayPal and I have none.
The idea comes to my mind to get a Windows 8 tablet and then install Android-x86 or Android on IA.
Don't hesitate to help if you can.
About Developing for Tab 3, dev are NOT interested for working on a x86 CPU that's why.
And Microsoft Windows RT canNOT run x86 programs unless you emulate. Windows 8 cames out pre-installed, you canNOT reinstall through USB or Whatever since there's NO Windows8_arm.iso anywhere Update/Upgrade can only be done via MS Store. If there was an arm image for installing Windows 8 manually, nexus 7 would have been running already since it can boot from USB (with Multi-Boot bootloader).
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[quote name="calden74" post=51141473]I wasn't talking about ARM, never came up. I was refering to the Intel Quad Core Atom CPU's found in almost every Windows 8 tablet like the Dell Venue 8 pro. I understand you can install Windows 7 on a machine with such low specs but is it really worth it. Is this project even worth your time, especially when you can purchase said Dell tablet for only 200 dollars now at Amazon. It's 5 times faster than the Tab 3, twice the RAM and twice the SSD, already comes with Windows 8 and Office, plus there are now projects trying to get Android to work on it. I'm not trying to be a **** here but you would also have to look at the benefits that this project would bring to community as a whole. The user would first have to first purchase a license for Windows 8, half the price of the Dell Venue 8 Pro already, install Windows following what I could only imagine, long and detailed instructions that will require loosing Android in the end, so no dual booting. Then they will have a really slow tablet to contend with. I had an Asus VivoTab Smart last year, it had a dual core Atom that was at least twice as fast as the CPU found in the Tab 3, CPU score of 686 according to cpubenchmarks.com and 2 GB of ram and I found the Windows 8 experience to be horrible. <br />
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Save yourself some time and buy a Dell Venue 8 Pro for 200 dollars. Their very fast, almost twice the battery life as the Tab 3 10.1 and you will soon be able to install Android on it, with dual booting.<br />
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Here's the big one, the firmware in the Tab 3 doesn't support Windows 8, nor can you flash it to make it work. Remember, you'll need a UEFI. Who know's, there a some pretty talented people out there, maybe someone will figure it out but again is it worth their time or yours. There is also no support for the video card, soooo... Why not focus your time in creating a better custom Android ROM, there are only two in the development forums right now and their both crap, bloated and extremely slow. The 10.1 is in desperate need of a barebones Android ROM, that's where your focus should be.<br />
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Oh and one more thing, Windows 8 supports ARM, what do you think Windows RT is, it's Windows 8, identical in everyway except it has been compiled for ARM. Prior to Windows 8, Microsoft had an embedded version of Windows that also ran on ARM.
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I am in a country where RESTRICTION make all my dreams become a pure nightmare !<br />
I am from Morocco ! I checked almost all online stores and stores I know, I can't find any good Windows 8 tablet <br />
Only Acer Iconia W3-810 is available in almost all stores which really is a CRAP* (windows 8 on 8" screen really looks painful)<br />
I am seriously looking for a good Windows 8 Tablet like Acer W700 or W510 or your so called Dell Venue Pro.<br />
I can found them on ebay or Amazon with ease BUT seller won't ship WOLDWIDE ! Even if they will, I can't pay, since you nedd a credit card or PayPal and I have none.<br />
The idea comes to my mind to get a Windows 8 tablet and then install Android-x86 or Android on IA.<br />
Don't hesitate to help if you can.<br />
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About Developing for Tab 3, dev are NOT interested for working on a x86 CPU that's why.<br />
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And Microsoft Windows RT canNOT run x86 programs unless you emulate. Windows 8 cames out pre-installed, you canNOT reinstall through USB or Whatever since there's NO Windows8_arm.iso anywhere Update/Upgrade can only be done via MS Store. If there was an arm image for installing Windows 8 manually, nexus 7 would have been running already since it can boot from USB (with Multi-Boot bootloader).<br />
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Sorry to butt in but clap!!! Best argument ever!!! He tried to make you look like a troll but you put him right back under that bridge lol. Cheers
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Have NO idea what you mean ?
Sorry to butt in but clap!!! Best argument ever!!! He tried to make you look like a troll but you put him right back under that bridge lol. Cheers
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OMG !!! What do you mean by this statement ?
To whom are you talking to ?
And please try to learn "How to Quote"
Your quotes are really...
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OMG !!! What do you mean by this statement ?
To whom are you talking to ?
And please try to learn "How to Quote"
Your quotes are really...
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I'm quoting from the app, and I was on your side but damn you made yourself look like an ass.
Good luck with this project your gonna get no help on, probably not even get to boot. Good luck.
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Calm Down !
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I'm quoting from the app, and I was on your side but damn you made yourself look like an ass.
Good luck with this project your gonna get no help on, probably not even get to boot. Good luck.
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Calm Down and "Peace, Bro"
You do NOT own a Tab 3 10.1 ! Isn't it ?
And this is NOT my thread. I have my own thread about running windows 8 on Tab 3 and inside Android NOT a native installation.
Keep Calm and Don't be MAD
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I ain't mad, I was just on your side about things considering the troll told you to work on vanilla android instead of windows 8 on your device. The XDA app quoted both of you for some reason. I just took it to offense and apologize for it.
Again I'm gonna stick your side by saying developing is about pushing limits on the device, its not ment for moochers to demand what they want. After all, no one has to share what they've accomplished, but I'm glad they do. How he called the other Roms crap pissed me off, cause the devs took the time to do it and share it while he just ridiculed them for what they made, and demands cyanogen mod basically. **** that guy, if he doesn't like it then he should take the time to do it his damn self. Let's see what he can accomplish.
I know I'm not on your device, but development is slow I just kinda read out of boredom cause of nothing to flash lol. I guess I am a troll too.
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creep138 said:
I ain't mad, I was just on your side about things considering the troll told you to work on vanilla android instead of windows 8 on your device. The XDA app quoted both of you for some reason. I just took it to offense and apologize for it.
Again I'm gonna stick your side by saying developing is about pushing limits on the device, its not ment for moochers to demand what they want. After all, no one has to share what they've accomplished, but I'm glad they do. How he called the other Roms crap pissed me off, cause the devs took the time to do it and share it while he just ridiculed them for what they made, and demands cyanogen mod basically. **** that guy, if he doesn't like it then he should take the time to do it his damn self. Let's see what he can accomplish.
I know I'm not on your device, but development is slow I just kinda read out of boredom cause of nothing to flash lol. I guess I am a troll too.
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Idk what I am gonna say more
The Logic thing is that: He don't like Samsung Tab 3 (specially 7.0 and 10.1 because 8.0 have an Exynos CPU + a Mali-400 Quad Core GPU). Btw, he refuse to admit it
I agree that development of Tab 3 7 and 10 is really slow (specially 10.1) because these devices have newer CPU so devs need more time to focus on.
You also don't have to apologize at all
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i wish this could happen.:good: