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HTC spent the day with Paul on friday to show him the EVO 3d.
He asked them if it will be shipped with unlocked bootloader. Here is what he tweeted this morning:
"Of course, I asked HTC whether the phone was expected to ship with an unlocked bootloader and in truth, the answer was a little troubling - "The Evo 3D was in development before the open bootloader decision was made and as such we aren't sure as yet whether the device will ship initially with an unlocked bootloader or this will follow later". Not good enough HTC!"
Very disappointing indeed
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"or this will follow later".
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that's the key right there.
we will get it. (crosses fingers)
If Microsoft said that all future versions of Windows would come with a free option to edit the registry (ok so bad example) and then released Windows 8 without this feature purely because it was already in development - they would be thrown to the wolves.
I have no doubt we will see the unlocked bootloader for the Sensation and EVO3D, but Chou has already lied to his customers.
So very disappointed..I doubt i won't buy htc phones if it also comes with a locked bootloader.
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If this true, i just wait the new Xperia Duo, and if come before HTC unlock boot i will say goodbye HTC for ever...
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On the contrary I see that as good news for HTC Sensation.
HTC say they are still working on developing it and preparing all the policies and stuff, so it makes sense if it's still not fully ready for any device, even the EVO 3D.
Let's see when will that happen and how it will be rolled out.
Come on HTC, it's taking too long already!!!
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"we aren't sure as yet whether the device will ship initially with an unlocked bootloader or this will follow later"
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What's not good enough? The fact that HTC have said that the device will either ship with an unlocked bootloader or recieve an update at a later date? How did you interpret that any other way? Very misleading post. Sick of people saying "not good enough" "hurry up". Give them time! They have communicated through various official channels that both devices will recieve an unlocked bootloader one way or another.
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What's not good enough? The fact that HTC have said that the device will either ship with an unlocked bootloader or recieve an update at a later date? How did you interpret that any other way? Very misleading post. Sick of people saying "not good enough" "hurry up". Give them time! They have communicated through various official channels that both devices will recieve an unlocked bootloader one way or another.
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The big issue is that they should already have it out. There is absolutely no reason that they can't modify HBOOT and release a RUU - probably would take them no more than an hour worth of work since they already have the keys and don't have to go through the hassle that we have been going through rooting their devices lately with goldcards and crap.
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The big issue is that they should already have it out. There is absolutely no reason that they can't modify HBOOT and release a RUU - probably would take them no more than an hour worth of work since they already have the keys and don't have to go through the hassle that we have been going through rooting their devices lately with goldcards and crap.
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perhaps it's because they are working on some optimization of the Sense 3.0 and release it with the unlock?
I hope...
Mainspring said:
perhaps it's because they are working on some optimization of the Sense 3.0 and release it with the unlock?
I hope...
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Wish in one hand, **** in the other...
HTC has a long history of pulling B/S - a perfect example was the lack of graphics drivers for the Imageon processor that was in the Mogul, Touch, and Touch Pro and the artificially-forced 30FPS on the EVO...
I'm losing faith in HTC altogether.
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The big issue is that they should already have it out. There is absolutely no reason that they can't modify HBOOT and release a RUU - probably would take them no more than an hour worth of work since they already have the keys and don't have to go through the hassle that we have been going through rooting their devices lately with goldcards and crap.
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Don't you think there's a little more work involved with rolling out an update for one of their flagship devices? Development and testing aside I would imagine there being a fair amount of legal wrangling between themselves and the various carrier in different countries. Just be patient, they have moved from a position of having locked to unlocked due to pressure from the community. For that I am thankful. Enough of the moaning and knee jerk hysteria.
=)
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Don't you think there's a little more work involved with rolling out an update for one of their flagship devices? Development and testing aside I would imagine there being a fair amount of legal wrangling between themselves and the various carrier in different countries. Just be patient, they have moved from a position of having locked to unlocked due to pressure from the community. For that I am thankful. Enough of the moaning and knee jerk hysteria.
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You really think that T-Mobile USA would object to an unlocked bootloader when their other flagship was the G2x that was by far the easiest phone to root that I've ever owned.
I understand the legal crap but they've had plenty of time to flesh out the bootloader unlock... they should have been starting on it before the device even launched since the decision was made before it launched to unlock devices going forward.
Whatever, I'll wait for it until I can't anymore and then I guess its back to the G2x and hoping and praying LG fixes it soon.
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If Microsoft said that all future versions of Windows would come with a free option to edit the registry (ok so bad example) and then released Windows 8 without this feature purely because it was already in development - they would be thrown to the wolves.
I have no doubt we will see the unlocked bootloader for the Sensation and EVO3D, but Chou has already lied to his customers.
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What a terrible example.... How often does a new version of windows come out? Every few years.....
How often does an HTC phone come out? Every few weeks, or days sometimes... The Sensation and E3D had already been assembled and packaged by the time their policy about bootloaders changed. They said the phones will get an unlocked bootloader. I'm sure they will roll it out with some updates for this bug-plagued device. HTC has dozens of models to maintain and dozens more to create. Give them a damn second to get their ducks in a row.
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Hehehe....funny stuff.
Seems like this actually affects peoples day.... In a negative way.
A month for some people must be an agonizing event.... If it hasn't come in few months....then start to ask why.... Until then....enjoy life.
I have to say that I don't think it would be that hard for them to just release a unoock. But at same time it might be harder then we think.
I can confirm the Evo third-D has a locked boot loader. I have tested both the sensation and the third-D side by side.
I do have to say though, I think we (xda devs) will crack it long before HTC releases the official unlock.
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What a terrible example.... How often does a new version of windows come out? Every few years.....
How often does an HTC phone come out? Every few weeks, or days sometimes... The Sensation and E3D had already been assembled and packaged by the time their policy about bootloaders changed. They said the phones will get an unlocked bootloader. I'm sure they will roll it out with some updates for this bug-plagued device. HTC has dozens of models to maintain and dozens more to create. Give them a damn second to get their ducks in a row.
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Thats irrelevent tbh, its still a promised feature that isn't in the released product and I am going to be stuck with this phone for 2 years under contract.
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You really think that T-Mobile USA would object to an unlocked bootloader when their other flagship was the G2x that was by far the easiest phone to root that I've ever owned.
I understand the legal crap but they've had plenty of time to flesh out the bootloader unlock... they should have been starting on it before the device even launched since the decision was made before it launched to unlock devices going forward.
Whatever, I'll wait for it until I can't anymore and then I guess its back to the G2x and hoping and praying LG fixes it soon.
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No they wouldn't object but everything still has to be drawn up in formal contracts or amendments etc etc. This has to be coordinated in X number of countries with X number of carriers and suppliers, in other words a bit of a ballache.
The devices had effectively been launched. If they had decided to do this pre the OFFICIAL launch then it would have probably resulted in delays, definitely not an acceptable option for a company the size of htc.
They said they are working on it so let's just wait and see if they honour their promise of unlocked bootloaders. Everything I have read so far suggests that they will.
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No they wouldn't object but everything still has to be drawn up in formal contracts or amendments etc etc. This has to be coordinated in X number of countries with X number of carriers and suppliers, in other words a bit of a ballache.
The devices had effectively been launched. If they had decided to do this pre the OFFICIAL launch then it would have probably resulted in delays, definitely not an acceptable option for a company the size of htc.
They said they are working on it so let's just wait and see if they honour their promise of unlocked bootloaders. Everything I have read so far suggests that they will.
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Well said....
Hasn't it only been like a month since the CEO made the statement?
That's not very long at all.....
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Thats irrelevent tbh, its still a promised feature that isn't in the released product and I am going to be stuck with this phone for 2 years under contract.
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What could be more relevant??? If you had your way and this phone was released with an unlocked BL, none of us would have a Sensation right now, as they'd be busy opening each individual package, getting into the phone, unlocking the BL, repackaging, resealing, returning to the stores, then releasing. Thank goodness more sound minds than a few here are in charge at HTC.
Have our devices a month with a locked bootloader before we get the unlock, or wait another month without the phone to see it released with the bootloader already unlocked? hmmmm...
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I think people are forgetting how many times HTC promised to release drivers for their lag-plagued Mogul, Touch, Touch Pro, and the GSM variants of said devices - to never see it actually come to fruition.
HTC just likes to say things to shut people up.
Retail devices will ship S-ON.
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I know , i have a S-ON MT4GS , im about to buy another 1 to find out if that one is S-ON or S-OFF
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Retail devices will ship S-ON.
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All the retail units will be S-ON sadly.
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So there's no way of getting a custom ROM on S-ON right ?
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All the retail units will be S-ON sadly.
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I thought HTC said they unlocked the bootloader for all HTC devices?
I would have hoped that after the Sensation Evo 3d thing we would have seen this one ship S-OFF. I guess it means this one waits until September? I don't think that this one was on the list I saw on the updated FB posting. Probably has the same protections/encryptions as the Sensation. I remember when the G2 got S-Off, a few phones came long for the ride. Perhaps that will happen with the independent effort for the Sensation and the 3d.
well good, thanks for saving me the upgrade(s) (i needed two).
I'll wait now and see if this gets s-off'd before i renew my contract in sprint.
I'll keep my G2
Wouldn't it be better said that the SUBSIDIZED units will not have S-OFF, versus "retail". When I think "retail" I think full retail sticker price, which would be S-OFF.
The thing is that HTC kind of borked over on their unlocking promise. The Sensation and Evo3D both shipped S-ON. We recently found that the HTC CHA-CHA shipped with S-OFF. I think all of the phones already in production before and during that statement are shipping S-ON.
I Haz 3D!
Can't say i'm surprised
How do we check if our unit is S-OFF or not? I don't know how to get to bootloader on this device. Been a while since I rooted a phone.
EDIT: Realized I had Fast Boot mode on. To disable it, go into: Settings > Power > Fast Boot. Once disabled, power down the phone. When powering it back up, hold the "Volume Down" key to get into Hboot to see if you have S-On or S-Off.
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that promise was made well after the devlopment of this device began but there are s-off devices out there so i think the hacking/rooting community will have a way to get s-on to s-off soon enough.
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Wouldn't it be better said that the SUBSIDIZED units will not have S-OFF, versus "retail". When I think "retail" I think full retail sticker price, which would be S-OFF.
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i still expect full retail devices sold by t-mobile to be s-on the difference isnt in what you pay for it, it's in the branding. those with s-off devices either have an htc branded double shot, or a pre-release demo mytouch 4g slide with t-mobile branding. either way, the phones sold by t-mobile, subsidized or otherwise are s-on.
So I just checked my phone and of course its S-ON.
My question is (sorry for noob question - this is my first android device) - along with tools to root, ROMs etc, would there be a way to turn this to S-OFF? In other words, earlier S-ON devices were 'hacked' too, right?
If not, I will have to return the phone - the bloatware on this phone is just unbelievable.
Yes, I'm sure this will get rooted and/or get s-off shortly.
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Yeah, just give it time I'm pretty sure this phone will get rooted very soon. This phone has a lot of power not be played with lol
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My question is, would there be a way to turn this to S-OFF?
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Just think of S to mean security.. So S-ON and S-OFF are describing the state of the phones boot loader. If the boot loader is S-ON (security-on) then it is "locked" and any changes made to the system will be reset every time the phone is rebooted. If the boot loader is S-OFF (security-off) then it is "unlocked" and changes to the operating system will not be erased when the phone is rebooted.
The "way" you seek already exists on the Sensation 4g, which has about the same hardware as the mytouch 4g slide. This tool for unlocking the phone's boot loader is called "alpharev X". The tool is in beta stages, so it of course has not been released to the public. Although I'm almost certain it will work on the mytouch 4g, there is however, no guarantee that it will. Since the tool is not available to the public, more than likely HTC would not have been able to fix whatever exploit alpharev X uses to gain control over the boot loader. Alpharev X already works on multiple devices so there is no reason to think that it wouldn't work on the mytouch4g slide.
I certainly hope that it does because mine will be delivered tomorrow
Can't wait to play with it!!!
Oh yeah... And I want to return the Sensation 4g I Just bought.. I don't like it at all :/
Edit: revolutionary is the name of the tool and it has been released for the sensation 4g.. So it won't be long now before the mytouch 4g slide gets S-OFF.
Root and S-Off are what's holding me back from getting this phone. It certainly holds a lot of promise to it, but I think I'll stick with my G2 for now.
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Root and S-Off are what's holding me back from getting this phone. It certainly holds a lot of promise to it, but I think I'll stick with my G2 for now.
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yeah, I almost waited too... but I was jonesing for a dual core phone. it looks like someone obtained temp root on one of the S-ON retail MT4G slides though, looks like we already have the ball rolling.
Temproot has already been achieved, and considering the sensation and the mt4gs's bootloaders are near identical, when Alpharev-revoked releases their S-OFF patch for the Sensation today, I'd imagine that the mt4gs will only be a week behind.
If we had s-off but a locked bootloader, would there be a way to unlock the bootloader without notifiying HTC through HTCdev? Or does an unlocked bootloader essentially come with s-off?
I am wondering because I would prefer not to notify HTC of the unlock unless I absolutely have to. Obviously...
I don't know the answer to you first question but, I do know that unlocked bootloader does not give you s=off.
Yes but I'm asking if s-off gives up an unlocked bootloader. Or if the only way to unlock it is to use HTCdev
Confirmed. I'll wait a while before using htcdev.
I don't think we'll know for sure, until the S-Off method is found (which may be soon?). And there are plenty here that know more than I. But S-Off should be security off for everything, and let you do whatever you want, so I don't think you need bootloader unlock on top of that.
I could be wrong but unless HTC has some sort of counter in the phone how would they know you unlocked? If we ever got s-off you would just push the stock hboot etc and no flags would be thrown. Just because you generate a token, doesn't mean you went through with unlocking the device. Again, I didn't read HTC's fine print when unlocking though.
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I could be wrong but unless HTC has some sort of counter in the phone how would they know you unlocked? If we ever got s-off you would just push the stock hboot etc and no flags would be thrown. Just because you generate a token, doesn't mean you went through with unlocking the device. Again, I didn't read HTC's fine print when unlocking though.
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Wow that's absolutely hilarious LOL I never once stopped to think with my puny brain that we could indeed generate tokens without unlocking. Haha so funny. And yes if we could hide it, it would be great, but I read that no matter what you do the boot loader will always say RELOCKED and not LOCKED. Or tampered, something of that sort.
I think we can fix that with s off. I could be completely wrong though.
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From what I've been reading, any and everything can be accomplished with s-off. We can make the phone microwave food with s-off. PS they are trying some s-off methods with a members phone today. We shall see
Yep, S-Off means all partitions are writeable, and nothing is locked (except possibly SIM lock). I'm not personally clear what exploit is being used to get S-Off, but if it doesn't involve HTCDev (which my guess is that it wouldn't) than I don't see any way for HTC to track you. But all of this will hopefully be definitively answered very soon once a method is deployed . . .
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If we had s-off but a locked bootloader, would there be a way to unlock the bootloader without notifiying HTC through HTCdev? Or does an unlocked bootloader essentially come with s-off?
I am wondering because I would prefer not to notify HTC of the unlock unless I absolutely have to. Obviously...
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If you go through HTC are you supposedly giving up your warranty?
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If you go through HTC are you supposedly giving up your warranty?
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Yup. They tell you explicitly when you unlock the bootloader that you are voiding your warranty.
I think reports vary a bit on what HTC will actually do if you send a phone in with a hardware defect and its BL unlocked. I was reading a while ago on the International One X forum that they will still honor your warranty if you are BL unlocked and there is a hardware defect, as long as a custom ROM was not installed. But if you flashed a custom ROM they can somehow tell (even if you returned to stock) and deny your warranty. At least that was one guys experience over in the International forum.
S-OFF > Unlocked Bootloader, especially when HTCDev is involved. I've been holding off on the HTCDev unlock to see if we can get S-OFF, but now that some awesome ROMs are becoming available... I may just crack!
Billy
Stop worrying so much. Unlock it and enjoy it. No need to stress, it's not a car, it's a phone. Itll be fine. did u get the aftermarket or accidental warranty? If so, and you need it replaced, use that warranty if htc doesn't fix it. That's if they deny it and if they do they'll give you a repair cost, hopefully affordable. I would think though they would only deny it if unlocking caused the failure. If the flash goes out or dust under screen or volume rocker fails or USB port dies... They would probably fix it. No way unlocking it could cos those things to fail.
Well I'm banking on the fact that we will get s-off anyway and be able to remove the evidence of it ever being unlocked. I can just argue that I didn't actually unlock the bootloader and only generated the code. Either I honestly don't care anymore because I just got a great insurance plan that was only 58 for a year and covers EVERYTHING with only $75 deductible.
Also its funny that you say they would cover dust under the screen. I had an Inspire a while back and tried to get it repaired under warranty for dust under the screen (the battery door let a ton of dust in) and they would not cover it. I was so pissed about it and the way they handled it I swore to never buy another HTC product.
And then they released the most beautiful phone in the world.
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Well I'm banking on the fact that we will get s-off anyway and be able to remove the evidence of it ever being unlocked. I can just argue that I didn't actually unlock the bootloader and only generated the code. Either I honestly don't care anymore because I just got a great insurance plan that was only 58 for a year and covers EVERYTHING with only $75 deductible.
Also its funny that you say they would cover dust under the screen. I had an Inspire a while back and tried to get it repaired under warranty for dust under the screen (the battery door let a ton of dust in) and they would not cover it. I was so pissed about it and the way they handled it I swore to never buy another HTC product.
And then they released the most beautiful phone in the world.
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details on that insurance please? that's fantastic
gunnyman said:
details on that insurance please? that's fantastic
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Ensquared.
Thanks signed up and canceled the overpriced att insurance.
gunnyman said:
Thanks signed up and canceled the overpriced att insurance.
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It's the least I could do for you essentially being responsible for the 1.85 root.
Hi guys,
Longtime iPhone user here, looking to defect. After being inspired by a poster over at The Verge, I embarked on a 30 day trial of a One X yesterday. I've been wanting a nice big screen for a while, and the One X is just all kinds of hot.
Anyhow, I'm still on the fence with a straight up stock device. I suspect I might change my tune with a custom ROM, but I'm now under the impression that a custom ROM is not possible without first unlocking the bootloader. Is this a correct statement? Things have been changing so much over the last week or two with the One X, I'm having a hard time deciphering a clear answer to this.
I'm comfortable with rooting (did this last night) and perfectly comfortable with the process of unlocking the bootloader. But the unlocking scares me a bit, as it doesn't appear to be completely reversible. This doesn't jive to well with my "30 day trial" plans if I decide to return the phone. Seems best I can do is get it back to a "Re-locked" status, which I'm thinking might not be ideal if I decide to return the phone. Who knows, AT&T may not care (or even check), but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Bottom line, I want to dip my toe into the custom ROM pool, but without having to commit to an unlocked bootloader. Possible?
Pretty sure it's not possible, but im not 100%. You need a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) to flash roms and in order to replace the stock recovery I'm pretty sure you need to be bootloader unlocked.
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Hi guys,
Longtime iPhone user here, looking to defect. After being inspired by a poster over at The Verge, I embarked on a 30 day trial of a One X yesterday. I've been wanting a nice big screen for a while, and the One X is just all kinds of hot.
Anyhow, I'm still on the fence with a straight up stock device. I suspect I might change my tune with a custom ROM, but I'm now under the impression that a custom ROM is not possible without first unlocking the bootloader. Is this a correct statement? Things have been changing so much over the last week or two with the One X, I'm having a hard time deciphering a clear answer to this.
I'm comfortable with rooting (did this last night) and perfectly comfortable with the process of unlocking the bootloader. But the unlocking scares me a bit, as it doesn't appear to be completely reversible. This doesn't jive to well with my "30 day trial" plans if I decide to return the phone. Seems best I can do is get it back to a "Re-locked" status, which I'm thinking might not be ideal if I decide to return the phone. Who knows, AT&T may not care (or even check), but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Bottom line, I want to dip my toe into the custom ROM pool, but without having to commit to an unlocked bootloader. Possible?
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Correct you will need to unlock the downloader. But if you check your bootloader right now, it already says tampered due to rooting. In my experience at&t wont check the status, but more to the point you can unlock the bootloader being it already shows the tampered flag.
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Correct you will need to unlock the downloader. But if you check your bootloader right now, it already says tampered due to rooting. In my experience at&t wont check the status, but more to the point you can unlock the bootloader being it already shows the tampered flag.
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It does show tampered but when run an RUU that goes away.
@OP- Odds are the rep at the AT&T store isn't going to know to check the bootloader to see if it's been unlocked. I'm fairly confident that once you unlock and try out some custom ROMs (CleanROM SE is my recommendation), you won't be going back to iOS any time soon.
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Plus, with fastboot on, it's "harder" to get to bootloader.
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Correct you will need to unlock the downloader. But if you check your bootloader right now, it already says tampered due to rooting. In my experience at&t wont check the status, but more to the point you can unlock the bootloader being it already shows the tampered flag.
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True, but I got the tampered flag to clear last night by flashing the stock RUU back. That did freak me out last night when I noticed it though, and it's the only reason I went back to complete stock last night just to make sure I wasn't already screwed.
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It does show tampered but when run an RUU that goes away.
@OP- Odds are the rep at the AT&T store isn't going to know to check the bootloader to see if it's been unlocked. I'm fairly confident that once you unlock and try out some custom ROMs (CleanROM SE is my recommendation), you won't be going back to iOS any time soon.
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Plus, with fastboot on, it's "harder" to get to bootloader.
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Interesting! This probably explains why I haven't been able to get into the bootloader for the last 10 minutes! That did the trick though, so thanks for that.
But seriously, I sure wasn't able to get into the bootloader with fastboot enabled. Knowing that, I feel a little more comfortable just going ahead and unlocking now.
I returned a ROM'd up HOX to at&t and they didn't even turn on the screen. You'll be good, they don't ask questions if you're in your 30 days.
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I'm now rooted, bootloader unlocked, and running CleanROM SE 3.0. Thanks for the info everyone, really appreciate it! Now we'll see how the next 30 days goes...
Any other tips/suggestions/ideas for things I should do for an iOS switcher?
Awesome! You're going to love that ROM. Aside from downloading Titanium Backup to keep all your crap backed up should you decide to switch ROMs, I'd say just play around with what you've got for now. I spent 4 months on an iPhone 4S and loved it, but as soon as I got back to Android with my HOX, I haven't missed a minute of my iOS experience. If you get frustrated with anything, just chock it up to learning a new OS and don't be discouraged. I think by the end of your 30 days you will find that Android is actually MORE intuitive and user friendly than iOS, and you won't have to jump through so many hoops to accomplish simple tasks. You are going to love it. Welcome to the wonderful world of Android
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It does show tampered but when run an RUU that goes away.
@OP- Odds are the rep at the AT&T store isn't going to know to check the bootloader to see if it's been unlocked. I'm fairly confident that once you unlock and try out some custom ROMs (CleanROM SE is my recommendation), you won't be going back to iOS any time soon.
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They've never checked any phone I've returned that was bootloader unlocked or rooted. I do try to go back to as close to stock as possible tho.
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They've never checked any phone I've returned that was bootloader unlocked or rooted. I do try to go back to as close to stock as possible tho.
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Yep, I've returned 2 with relocked bootloaders and they didn't check either phone.
I was on an iphone for 2 1/2 years before taking the plunge into android with the HOX...to be honest I don't miss iOS one bit. I've found that everything I can do with android and this phone stock, I needed a jailbroken iphone to accomplish...
Only reason I rooted and unlocked my HOX was because I'm a "tinkerer" and love customization and the ability to do whatever I want to my device. I haven't flashed any ROM's yet, mainly because I'm still learning this stuff but I'm sure it won't be long..
Hey guys,
I know there are plenty of people working on finding a method for root, it's difficult, not trying to ask when it's going to be or why it's taking so long. I'm just wondering if it will even be possible, given HTC doesn't ever unlock the phone themselves. I love the One X, just got it and I think it's great, but I know that I'm going to eventually want to install MIUI or CM, and since my phone has 2.2 there's basically no way to do that right now.
Reading through some of the dev/think tank threads, I've read a couple of comments alluding to the idea that it might be impossible unless HTC unlocks it, and that they might not. Seems contrary to what I've seen in the past, pretty much every phone I or my friends have had got cracked at some point. Still, if it's not going to be possible ever, I might want to return my phone and switch it out for the SGS3 or some other.
I tried to Google for unrootable android phones and couldn't find any. However the percentage of devices using ics is very small and the only ones that have root as far as I can tell all have unlocked bootloaders.
It's very difficult to remain positive but I'm trying.
gunnyman said:
I tried to Google for unrootable android phones and couldn't find any. However the percentage of devices using ics is very small and the only ones that have root as far as I can tell all have unlocked bootloaders.
It's very difficult to remain positive but I'm trying.
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Y'all are so impatient!
Like any security, it just takes enough careful effort and determination to defeat. As great as the One X is, I have no doubt there will be enough of both to get this done. :good:
pzuraq said:
I've read a couple of comments alluding to the idea that it might be impossible unless HTC unlocks it
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I don't have the technical expertise to really say. But just from experience, I can say that HTC has been desperately trying to lock down their phones for over 2 years (maybe longer, that is justs when I jumped into the Android game) with some pretty sophisticated safeguards, and the phones have still been rooted, often very quickly. I don't think HTC has magically gotten better at securing their devices, to the point that the phone is now impossible to root. In particular, our device was rooted (1.73 firmware) something like 3 days after it was released, even with the locked bootloader and all the security that HTC could throw on it at the time. Its just my feeling that its really doubtful that HTC can go from that point, to making the device impossible to root in the matter of a few months..
Seen this new root method here on xda, any idea if compatible with our 1X?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
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C3RGIOSE1 said:
Seen this new root method here on xda, any idea if compatible with our 1X?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870652
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Apparently not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31435583#post31435583