hey guys. i seem to have a problem with my verizon data usage on my ultra. it seems like in the last couple months, i have been using data faster than i normally do. i have a 2 gig data plan, and i keep track of my usage closely because thats all i have to work with and i dont want to get any overage fees. i usually use data for basic browsing, social media, and some streaming music. this weekend, i was streaming some radio. i used almost 1 gig of data in one hour of streaming. before, i was able to stream over 4 hours of radio and never came close to using 1 gig. i would usually use less than .5 gigs while streaming. i have now used up all of my data in about 1.5 weeks where it would normally take me all 4 weeks. it seems like they are charging me for more data than i am actually using. i have done some research and it seems like im not the only one with the problem. i think they are doing it to either get money from overage fees or to free up their network to keep the speeds up. i have a feeling its a combination of both. is anyone else on here having a similar problem?
I am still unlimited, so I never worry about that.
Have you taken any app updates or installed new apps that would possibly use data? Maybe system updates? I believe the system updates for this phone are around 850-900 MB
Going into Settings > Data Usage; what is eating your data there?
i have not installed any new apps that would be using my data. all of my apps just updated, but they were over wifi. i have it set to only update over wifi. i have had no system updates because ive been on 4.4.4 for a few months. it shows tunein radio used .94gb, youtube at 274mb, facebook with 144mb. i was using tune in radio for about an hour and used close to 1gb. i have never used that much in such a short time period. i am seriously considering switching carriers because my contract is up and i dont want two more years of this crap.
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i have not installed any new apps that would be using my data. all of my apps just updated, but they were over wifi. i have it set to only update over wifi. i have had no system updates because ive been on 4.4.4 for a few months. it shows tunein radio used .94gb, youtube at 274mb, facebook with 144mb. i was using tune in radio for about an hour and used close to 1gb. i have never used that much in such a short time period. i am seriously considering switching carriers because my contract is up and i dont want two more years of this crap.
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May just be tune in genuinely using that much. Go pick up a tmobile prepaid sim and pop it in your phone. Try them out.
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May just be tune in genuinely using that much. Go pick up a tmobile prepaid sim and pop it in your phone. Try them out.
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I can use a t-mobile card in a verizon phone?
Also I went to the verizon store to see what they would say. They said being in a lte/xlte area will eat data faster. To met that just doesn't sound right. I've used date in lte areas and have never used that much data at once. I still think there is something else going on here.
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I can use a t-mobile card in a verizon phone?
Also I went to the verizon store to see what they would say. They said being in a lte/xlte area will eat data faster. To met that just doesn't sound right. I've used date in lte areas and have never used that much data at once. I still think there is something else going on here.
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Rule #1) Verizon reps have way less knowledge than you. They are nearly brain dead when it comes to actually providing support for their phones.
Yes you can pop in a nano T-Mobile sim prepaid or postpaid, set the phone to global, and off you go.
Well that would be all good if I had tmo service. The only reason I have verizon is that they r the only one with service in my area
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Well that would be all good if I had tmo service. The only reason I have verizon is that they r the only one with service in my area
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Check the tune in settings, maybe an app update defaulted the app to high quality streaming, when before you were on mid/low quality
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Check the tune in settings, maybe an app update defaulted the app to high quality streaming, when before you were on mid/low quality
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I already checked for that and I did not see an option for stream quality.
ok, i did some more digging. i found that the stream in was using had a bitrate of 64kbps. over and hour this translates to .003gb or 26mb. its says in my data usage that tunein radio used .94gb which at a 64kbps rate would be over 300 hours of radio. something is definitely not right but i don't know what.
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I already checked for that and I did not see an option for stream quality.
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Dunno then, sorry man out of ideas
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husker97 said:
ok, i did some more digging. i found that the stream in was using had a bitrate of 64kbps. over and hour this translates to .003gb or 26mb. its says in my data usage that tunein radio used .94gb which at a 64kbps rate would be over 300 hours of radio. something is definitely not right but i don't know what.
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last idea... is your billing cycle window set appropriately in the data use section of the phone? If you check on myverizon web portal does it also reflect the same data numbers?
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last idea... is your billing cycle window set appropriately in the data use section of the phone? If you check on myverizon web portal does it also reflect the same data numbers?
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Ya, the billing cycle window is set right. I don't know who to blame here, verizon or tunein radio? Maybe it's just a fluke this month and maybe would be better next month.
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Ya, the billing cycle window is set right. I don't know who to blame here, verizon or tunein radio? Maybe it's just a fluke this month and maybe would be better next month.
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but i take it you are relying strictly on what the phone is telling you... Did you verify the phone was counting right by checking on the My Account section on vzw website? If the VZW site reflects the same thing as your phone, I would at least then be able to say with some certain confidence tunein could be the culprit.
If you get a different reading from VWZ's site, then there most likely was some kind of bug/glitch in the data use app on the phone.
My verizon account says the same thing. I still don't think it's the radio app. It's either something with verizon or possibly the phone might be eating more data than it needs, but I don't think it's the app. I will know if it's the phone or not when I upgrade to a note 4 in a couple weeks.
Are you sure you exited out of your radio app? I know I have left a stream playing before when I thought I closed it.
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Hi,
So like an idiot I "upgraded" to the new T-Mobile "unlimited" plan with the 2 GB limit. At the time, it made sense to switch; I'd save money on minutes, and I'm not a heavy data user. Right now I use ~200-300 MB a month. At most, I've used 6xx MB recently. My data heavy data apps right now are Pandora and Sling player. And, I'm on wifi when at home, and on campus.
However, I have now started to deeply regret my derision now that Google has announced their new cloud and music services, Netflix has finally launched their app for select android devices (including my N1), and T-Mobile announced free Wi-fi calling on new devices. I'm not asking for pity or reticule, but I need some questions answered.
Does anyone have any idea how much data the new Netflix app uses when using 3/4G? AT&T iPhone users, some of you use Netflix with similar caps, how easy is it for you to reach the cap? Those of you have gone over the 2GB limit on T-Mobile, how badly did they throttle you, if at all?
Finally, I thought I'd share my two cents worth on data usage and caps. I'll gladly stay a capped customer on T-Mobile if such moves allow T-Mobile to return to profitability without the likes of AT&T. Data is data, and data caps on home internet service are abominations. However, bandwidth is not free, and broadband cell service is one of the most expensive last-mile solutions to maintain; it is also primarily a supplemental form of connectivity for most customer So, I have no problem with T-Mobile trying to make a buck and stay afloat, so long as they maintain their current levels of quality and customer service.
those are some good questions. I do know that streaming video takes ALOT of data. So you would be able to do mabe 2 full netflix videos a week would be about my guess. but then again you stream audio too so in doing that, I would say maybe 1 video a week.
I have a friend with the SGS4G and he got put on that plan and hates it. He was using it alott, mainly bc he came from crappy verizon service with maybe 1mbps download to this phone which he hit 21mbps. anyways, when he went over 2gb and got throttled down to just under 2mbps. now that its later in the month, it seems to be they are slowing him down more. He lately has only been getting .06mbps
So yea, it sucks for him. reallly bad.
Well, that answers my throttling questions thanks. Video streaming is done using a variable bit rate, meaning that data usage can rise and fall along with the quality of the video. I'm sure Netflix takes data usage into account when streaming the video over cell. They recently had to preform similar actions for their Canadian costumers, many of whom are subject to ridiculous caps on their home internet connections. I also think that I will rarely watch a full-length movie entirely on 3/4G. So, I'm not too concerned as of yet. I'll experiment once my next billing cycle starts, track my usage, and report the results an a new thread.
I would be willing to bet your friend did a fair bit of tethering?
Let me get this straight. The straight up "Unlimited plan" is even more limited than the regular unlimited 4g web??? Wow, some of that att mentality is already creeping up into that dump i see....
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Let me get this straight. The straight up "Unlimited plan" is even more limited than the regular unlimited 4g web??? Wow, some of that att mentality is already creeping up into that dump i see....
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Yarp. You read that right!
go to sprint, fully unlimited bud
Here is my experience..
I'm on t-mobile with the MyTouch 4G. I haven't used netflix as of yet, but I do stream a lot on my phone with other various apps and websites to watch TV shows. I do accounting so I'm usually in my office alone through the day and I have the capabilities of watching shows on my phone, since accounting is extremely boring and i need something to keep me going.
Anyway, on average, a regular TV show (like friends), runs about 25 minutes. And in that time, I use anywhere from 70 - 100mb. Fortunately, I still have t-mobile's "unlimited" data which caps at 5gb.
I have reached the cap once, and for 2 days, they limited my throttle to edge speed! It was ridiculous!
There are a few apps in the market that help keep track of the data you are using. What I personally did was calculate how much data I could use per day and limit myself to that. I could check the apps to make sure I wasn't passing my limit. It's been working pretty well so far.
I hope this helped to whoever needed it!
Thanks are appreciated to all that this helped!
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Well, that answers my throttling questions thanks. Video streaming is done using a variable bit rate, meaning that data usage can rise and fall along with the quality of the video. I'm sure Netflix takes data usage into account when streaming the video over cell. They recently had to preform similar actions for their Canadian costumers, many of whom are subject to ridiculous caps on their home internet connections. I also think that I will rarely watch a full-length movie entirely on 3/4G. So, I'm not too concerned as of yet. I'll experiment once my next billing cycle starts, track my usage, and report the results an a new thread.
I would be willing to bet your friend did a fair bit of tethering?
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you're welcome dude. And yes, he made the soar mistake of tething his computer, then bridging his comp to his xbox a few times. lmao. told him it was a bad idea. the only thing i dont get is why they throttled him more. he's now getting slower than he did before. I dont think he tethers anymore...
you can also get Movie Stream app off the market. its pretty sweet. Watch movies without a monthly payment. it just streams them from a few different sites. Same Developers as TV Shows Stream app. pretty cool stuff d-('.')-b
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Here is my experience..
I'm on t-mobile with the MyTouch 4G. I haven't used netflix as of yet, but I do stream a lot on my phone with other various apps and websites to watch TV shows. I do accounting so I'm usually in my office alone through the day and I have the capabilities of watching shows on my phone, since accounting is extremely boring and i need something to keep me going.
Anyway, on average, a regular TV show (like friends), runs about 25 minutes. And in that time, I use anywhere from 70 - 100mb. Fortunately, I still have t-mobile's "unlimited" data which caps at 5gb.
I have reached the cap once, and for 2 days, they limited my throttle to edge speed! It was ridiculous!
There are a few apps in the market that help keep track of the data you are using. What I personally did was calculate how much data I could use per day and limit myself to that. I could check the apps to make sure I wasn't passing my limit. It's been working pretty well so far.
I hope this helped to whoever needed it!
Thanks are appreciated to all that this helped!
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Your actually pretty lucky dude. Edge speeds really are not that bad in comparison to GPRS/1G/whatever you want to call it. Most of the time getting throttled means getting 1g speeds. I do know that if you go into networks and change it to edge only networks you can get edge speeds, but somehow you were lucky enough to get them off the bat.
According to Netflix streaming for one hour will use about 1gb of data, 2gbs for HD.
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According to Netflix streaming for one hour will use about 1gb of data, 2gbs for HD.
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bahahahaa. thats whyyy they want you to use wifi.
thats about the worse news you could tell someone who has a cap lmao
Yeah when I saw that I was pretty surprised. Sucks especially with carriers capping at 2 or 5 GB. Fortunately on Verizon with unlimited data.
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According to Netflix streaming for one hour will use about 1gb of data, 2gbs for HD.
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That's probably for desktop streaming, not mobile. Someone I know who uses it on the iPhone said it uses ~200-300 MB/2 hours.
looking at the quality of the mobile movies/shows I'd say about 250mb an hour
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That's probably for desktop streaming, not mobile. Someone I know who uses it on the iPhone said it uses ~200-300 MB/2 hours.
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I think this is about right. That did sound like way too much for mobile streaming but the FAQ didn't specify.
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i did the update att sent me the other day and the first time i tethered after doing it was last night then this morning i get a msg from att to call them. so i did and they informed me they knew i was tethering but could not tell me how they new i was doing it. so now i am thinking about a new rom. i will reroot first and see if it replaced the tethering apk. if anyone has any information on this update please let me know. i was going to copy the msg they sent to me for the update but it conveniently del'd itself on reboot.
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i did the update att sent me the other day and the first time i tethered after doing it was last night then this morning i get a msg from att to call them. so i did and they informed me they knew i was tethering but could not tell me how they new i was doing it. so now i am thinking about a new rom. i will reroot first and see if it replaced the tethering apk. if anyone has any information on this update please let me know. i was going to copy the msg they sent to me for the update but it conveniently del'd itself on reboot.
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People have been getting nailed right and left, seemingly regardless of ROM. I don't think the update has anything to do with it, they're likely doing some packet inspection to determine what OS the packets are originating from.
when i called in regarding the nasty gram. she emphasized to update my phone. so im guess that is where it is coming from. id agree with you.
Yeah, looks like it was the update. It's weird that all of you got caught those,
I tethered a decent amount a few days ago(don't care if anyone knows, even you AT&T spies!) while my home internet was out, not a thing.
Guess we know not to use any new updates from AT&T until we find out how they detect us without tetheringmanager.apk..
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It's because you're using a stock ROM. I believe there's a service (though I can't for the life of me remember what it's called) that can detect if you're tethering or not. Custom ROMs remove the service so they can't tell.
Im on infused 2.2.3 and I tethered a little bit today and have not gotten anything yet, seems to working fine.
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Im on infused 2.2.3 and I tethered a little bit today and have not gotten anything yet, seems to working fine.
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I think the majority of people who are getting nailed are using LARGE amounts of data i know one guy posted he has used 8 gig of data just on tethering
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the most ive done is 11gb a month...
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the most ive done is 11gb a month...
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yea but the guy above that i mentioned is on track for using 32 + gigs .. in tethering
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I think the majority of people who are getting nailed are using LARGE amounts of data i know one guy posted he has used 8 gig of data just on tethering
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Yeah, I used that much the other week... I've been running CM7 so I'm pretty sure that AT&T is doing some packet sniffing to see the useragent of the packets coming through. I don't think it has to do with the OS you're running.
I got a nastygram saying to stop by September 30th or they'll charge me. So far this month I've use 18gb so I'm sucking as much as I can before they cut me off!!
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yea but the guy above that i mentioned is on track for using 32 + gigs .. in tethering
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Whammy!!! Double whammy!! Triple whammy!!! I thought I used net a lot cos I use close to 1.5 GB a month at peak times.. with my avg around 1 GB, and no tethering whatsoever. No wonder AT&T is tracking on tethering users.
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Whammy!!! Double whammy!! Triple whammy!!! I thought I used net a lot cos I use close to 1.5 GB a month at peak times.. with my avg around 1 GB, and no tethering whatsoever. No wonder AT&T is tracking on tethering users.
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This month is the most data I've ever used, and that's 4.2GB right now.... I don't get how you suck up so much data.... maybe lots of videos..... you know..... lol.
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Bloat Freeze to block the tethering.apk It won't phone home then ;-)
Works for me and I just updated using the recent 14MB (I think) file the other day. and tethered for a few hours....so far so good anyway.
My wife who has a Streak just got her nasty gram yesterday, now she does tether ALOT, but her phone does not even show a disclaimer for the mobile hotspot like ours does. So, i dont think it has anything to do with the update.
I dont tether alot but I do tether and most months stay around 8-10gigs. (most of that is actually on my phone, I like Netflix)
She is pissed because out where we live we do not have any high speed internet options but we have AWESOME data speeds with ATT but none of the other carriers have anything close. we thought about getting one of those mifi hotspots but ATT only has a 5gig one and that is just a joke to to think 3 teens and 2 adults are going to make that work.
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This month is the most data I've ever used, and that's 4.2GB right now.... I don't get how you suck up so much data.... maybe lots of videos..... you know..... lol.
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Online gaming is another way. While tethering. i used to Play WoW through my cell while tethering with my old Cappy.
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actually i would be paying the same price i am not for an UNLIMITED data plan to go down to a 4gb plan that allows me to tether. But when I got my Unlimited Plan there was nothing said about not being alowed to tether my phone. to my PC actually the rep in the store showed me how to do it with my old tilt.
Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
Got a letter in the mail today dying they're going to add tethering and I haven't done it in 4 months. The hell??????
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Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
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Nothing to do with amount of data.. I get the letter after tethering for 5 mind last week. Actually never got the connection to work.
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Lucky bastards... I'm stuck on 2GB, so tethering really isn't a viable replacement option for me.
That being said, I find it absolutely bullsh*t that you have to pay for a certain way to use your data. Why should AT&T give a damn how you use your data? I pay for 2GB, I should be able to use it, however the hell I want.
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You haven't gotten yourself unlimited? I had someone do it for me(don't know their XDA user), and I love it.
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If you are one of the "lucky" ones who have received the following text message..
"ATT Free Msg: Your data use this month places you in the top 5% of users. Use Wi-Fi to help avoid reduced speeds. Visit www.att.com/dataplans or call 866344758 "
Please go to http://www.change.org/petitions/att-data-throttle#
and sign the petition to stop the throttling of the "top 5%" users.
I personally only used 4GB and received the message.
I signed a contract for unlimited data with AT&T . Not a "limited unlimited data plan". They state that once an "unlimited data" customer is among the top 5% of there data users they will "throttle" the users data speed. Apparently once a user reaches 2 gigabytes of usage they slow down the speed. NOT once they become one of the top 5%.
If you search the website for "AT&T" there are some other petitions you can sign as well. But the one above has the best letter and most signatures so far.
Thank you for your time. Good luck!
Seriously not trying to be an ass but ATT doesn't care.... I HIGHLY doubt they will make a change.
In the meantime I would go here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474482 All credits to the op, The Jack of Clubs.
I always wondered what their criteria was for finding the top 5%. Do they measure it at the end of your billing cycle and compare it to other users? Or measure the amount of data you use so far at a specific date? Or gauge the rate that you are using (ie, 2gb/wk= 8gb/mo)? Obviously everyone has different billing periods, therefore data resets at different times of the month. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Or am I just overly confused?
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I always wondered what their criteria was for finding the top 5%. Do they measure it at the end of your billing cycle and compare it to other users? Or measure the amount of data you use so far at a specific date? Or gauge the rate that you are using (ie, 2gb/wk= 8gb/mo)? Obviously everyone has different billing periods, therefore data resets at different times of the month. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Or am I just overly confused?
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Lol... I called ATT about something else a while ago and brought this up in the conversation.. the answer was that the guy had no idea WTF was going on.. I think .. idk. It's so confusing.
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Seriously not trying to be an ass but ATT doesn't care.... I HIGHLY doubt they will make a change.
In the meantime I would go here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474482 All credits to the op, The Jack of Clubs.
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It is worth a shot to try. What they are doing is wrong. How am I in the top 5% when I only used 4GB, some people have gotten the message using a lot less... and I see people on here claiming they are using 10+ GB!!! I am not going down without a fight... If nothing happens... then of course I will be left with no choice but to find a new carrier.
I can't seem to get that APN setting to work... I am going to use my data as normal and see when they decide to throttle me this month.
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I always wondered what their criteria was for finding the top 5%. Do they measure it at the end of your billing cycle and compare it to other users? Or measure the amount of data you use so far at a specific date? Or gauge the rate that you are using (ie, 2gb/wk= 8gb/mo)? Obviously everyone has different billing periods, therefore data resets at different times of the month. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Or am I just overly confused?
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I honestly think they are just going randomly to the "unlimited" data users and sending them messages and throttling them.
Like I said above, I only used 4GB, some used less and got the message, and I see people on here claiming to use 10+ GB.
Let's not go down without a fight.. it might not go anywhere.. but hey at least we tried... and there is a chance something will happen if enough people voice there opinion....
Isn't the customer always right.....
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It is worth a shot to try. What they are doing is wrong. How am I in the top 5% when I only used 4GB, some people have gotten the message using a lot less... and I see people on here claiming they are using 10+ GB!!! I am not going down without a fight... If nothing happens... then of course I will be left with no choice but to find a new carrier.
I can't seem to get that APN setting to work... I am going to use my data as normal and see when they decide to throttle me this month.
I honestly think they are just going randomly to the "unlimited" data users and sending them messages and throttling them.
Like I said above, I only used 4GB, some used less and got the message, and I see people on here claiming to use 10+ GB.
Let's not go down without a fight.. it might not go anywhere.. but hey at least we tried... and there is a chance something will happen if enough people voice there opinion....
Isn't the customer always right.....
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Yes, I agree that it is worth the fight. Not saying that you are wrong there bro. I manage to never get the letter so I haven't tried to force those apn settings but I would suggest trying a different modem or a different rom.
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I honestly think they are just going randomly to the "unlimited" data users and sending them messages and throttling them.
Like I said above, I only used 4GB, some used less and got the message, and I see people on here claiming to use 10+ GB.
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They're sent to the top 5% in your area. In other words; it's extremely dependent on where you're at. If you live in a small town where there's maybe 300 people with an unlimited plan, chances are you're gonna be in that top 5% a lot sooner.
Personally, I think that scrapping the localisation on this would do a lot of good for AT&T's image. Right now, there's people who can pull 50+ GB of data off their plan, while others who pay the same amount get throttled at 1.2 GB. It's ludicrous. Having the throttling happen based on whether or not you're in the national top 5% of data users would make far more sense..
I'm in
I personally have not gotten the message, but I would surely feel as strongly about it as you do if I had. I most certainly would consider it to be an outrage, mostly because I use about the same amount of data as you do. (around 4gig)
Props also go out to those that have figured a way to bypass the throttling! I'm not currently running a custom rom at the moment, so I don't see all the options available to do so. I've made the settings that I found, but unsure of the impact.
Despite the outcome, this should be fought on principle alone.
On a side note I've often wondered how it is that AT&T is able to charge for 3 services when it all breaks down to sending a data packet? Voice = data packet. Text message = data packet. Data plan = data packet. In my mind this is also a travesty, unless I'm just blatantly wrong. I realize what's inside the packet may change, but in the end it's still a data packet. I imagine this is why all these companies have arisen providing unlimited everything plans for $50 a month, and I think I'm headed that way soon.
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They're sent to the top 5% in your area. In other words; it's extremely dependent on where you're at. If you live in a small town where there's maybe 300 people with an unlimited plan, chances are you're gonna be in that top 5% a lot sooner...
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I understand its gauged locally, but how is it measured? Everyone is on a different billing period. Mine starts on the 1st while yours starts on the 15th. By the 30th, I've used 5gb and you've only used 2gb. How do they compare your usage with mine and get an accurate (I use that term loosely) estimation of who's in the top percentage at a specific time when they send you that text? The only thing that makes sense to me is them monitoring your usage after your period ends? Or unless it like what op said; random warning texts @ 2gb or so.
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I signed it. I haven't gotten the letter because I'm always on wifi, but at&t's throttling people for such low amounts of data is wrong. The throttled speeds seem to be unusable too.
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Thank you to everyone for helping put up a fight..
and yes.. there "throttled" speeds are basically unusable.
I couldn't even access the market when they throttled my speeds.
ridiculous!!
Signed it. AT&T should put in just as much effort in investing in better network capacity as they are in taking it out on customers.
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if they did like tmobile and gave a fixed limit like 5%, i would have less of a problem. still stupid.
I guess I'm one of the luck ones at 2GB
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I switched to Sprint. Got tired of throttling. I do miss the speed when I had it. Albeit for the week of 3G. But sprint is doing me good otherwise.
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They're sent to the top 5% in your area. In other words; it's extremely dependent on where you're at. If you live in a small town where there's maybe 300 people with an unlimited plan, chances are you're gonna be in that top 5% a lot sooner.
Personally, I think that scrapping the localisation on this would do a lot of good for AT&T's image. Right now, there's people who can pull 50+ GB of data off their plan, while others who pay the same amount get throttled at 1.2 GB. It's ludicrous. Having the throttling happen based on whether or not you're in the national top 5% of data users would make far more sense..
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This would explain why I have not gotten this and I have had near 5gig months because of Pandora at work and they do not have Wifi on my floor. I live in the Chicago market. Guessing there is some very high users in my area.
I have 2gb of data a month, I never use more than 400mb a month. Wifi is all you need!
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I have 2gb of data a month, I never use more than 400mb a month. Wifi is all you need!
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You honestly don't expect everyone else to use data the way you do. I use wifi whenever I can, which is as soon as I get home or when I'm in class. The remainder of the day I'm at my office, or driving around using maps/navigation, emails, browsing, Facebook, words with friends, etc. So I don't have wifi. And no, I'm not gonna hunt around for a Starbucks or Mc Donald's just to hook up to wifi that has lower speeds than my 3G; its just ridiculous.
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You honestly don't expect everyone else to use data the way you do. I use wifi whenever I can, which is as soon as I get home or when I'm in class. The remainder of the day I'm at my office, or driving around using maps/navigation, emails, browsing, Facebook, words with friends, etc. So I don't have wifi. And no, I'm not gonna hunt around for a Starbucks or Mc Donald's just to hook up to wifi that has lower speeds than my 3G; its just ridiculous.
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In my opinion It's Stupid to stream any type of media while your away from your house on a Data connection! You know it's gonna use a ridiculous amount especially if your gonna sit there and stream HD videos over Data! Why wouldn't At&t have a right to throttle your usage, Pure waste. Using GPS and and other type of map software is a less of a waste. Most of you with 16GB sd cards and higher know better! Store all your music and videos on it, that's what its for. Facebook, Email, and some of your multiplayer games use **** for data, nothing barely gets wasted. With your facebook, email, and multiplayer games you shouldn't even go over 1GB of usage a month. Also Note for those sitting their listening to Pandora on their Data connection. Each song is between 3mb-6mb. How many songs do you listen too now multiply that and see how much your wasting.
i got this one month and at the time i was only at 1.4 gb! wtf
So I have had the One X since the day after it was released. I have Unlimited ATT Data and today, what 18 or so days after I bought it I hit 2 GB of data. The reason is I am using Google Music to stream, I use it everyday for about an hour on my jog. Sure I do a little surfing and searching, but really so far nothing else.
So I'd say about 3 gb of data a month will be my usage because of the low amount of storage I have to use Google Music.
Mazel tov!
That's not a lot. I was using more than 200mb every day but I had to switch to WiFi since I'm on the 2gb plan.
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I hit 4 GB after two weeks. Tethering plus my email app went haywire and started burning up data for some reason.
Cool Story Hansel.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but you can have Play(Google) Music cache music locally so you don't have to burn up data (and battery life) streaming it. Might not be a big deal in this particular situation, but just FYI.
I think it is odd that pandora uses less data then google music does.
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I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but you can have Play(Google) Music cache music locally so you don't have to burn up data (and battery life) streaming it. Might not be a big deal in this particular situation, but just FYI.
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Yeah that won't eat up 16gb of storage quickly or anything
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I do have Google Music set to cache, but that is only for buffering. I think what you mean is to download music and play the songs offline. I have around 800 songs thats about 4 gb of data. I added all the songs and the end result was I only had 2.9 gb of total storage left on the phone.
This is almost a deal breaker for me, I've had the One X for a few weeks and in fact I had the International version before which of course has 32 gb of storage, which IMO is just the right amount. The ATT version is to low and no expandable sd cards make it worse.
I have pre ordered a Galaxy S 3 and will mess with them both to see which one works best for me. I also have my iPhone 4S to fall back on, but the screen size makes it almost not doable anymore.
Netflix is the bane of my data plan. I'm sure AT&T hates me by now.
I noticed the same thing. I dont pull down nearly as much data streaming 128k streams from tunein as I do from google music (not set to high quality).
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So I have had the One X since the day after it was released. I have Unlimited ATT Data and today, what 18 or so days after I bought it I hit 2 GB of data. The reason is I am using Google Music to stream, I use it everyday for about an hour on my jog. Sure I do a little surfing and searching, but really so far nothing else.
So I'd say about 3 gb of data a month will be my usage because of the low amount of storage I have to use Google Music.
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AT&T unlimited data plan users have up to 5gb in a month before their data speed would be reduced. At 3gb per month, you should be fine.
I have used 3.1 gb in 22 days.
does anyone know the transfer bitrate of the music from google music, both on the high quality and lower quality streams? i stream almost exclusively over wi-fi at my office, so i haven't really followed my GM data usage too closely.
How do people survive with such little data..?
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The deactivated one was from May first until the 8th when I picked up a One X. Used a whole gig just getting it setup that night.
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fitchpuckman said:
does anyone know the transfer bitrate of the music from google music, both on the high quality and lower quality streams? i stream almost exclusively over wi-fi at my office, so i haven't really followed my GM data usage too closely.
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Google's support documents state upto 320kbps. So that'd be high quality, normal would probably be 192kpbs.
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How do people survive with such little data..?
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The deactivated one was from May first until the 8th when I picked up a One X. Used a whole gig just getting it setup that night.
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Google's support documents state upto 320kbps. So that'd be high quality, normal would probably be 192kpbs.
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Thanks, I thought I had seen 320kbps at some point, but i missed it on a quick search. I half expected a www.lmgtfy.com response to my question. Normal quality was really what i was wondering...sounded like at least 192kbps, since 128 probably would push out such his data rates. Speaking of which, how the hell are you going through so much data?! that's impressive, i must say.
I hit 3 GB within the first week, and 4GB a week later. Mostly tethering and app experimentation (one went haywire and burned through a ton of data).
I got throttled a few days after that, but AT&T seems to have lifted the throttling today. Not sure why but not complaining.
AT&T throttles back speeds of those who still have unlimited plans...I upgraded data w the vivid but wonder how much they reduce speeds by..I stream music through Rhapsody at 192 kbps and my data hits at least 3 gb per month..usually 4 but it's only another ten bucks...just hate that there is no true unlimited plan left..well I guess sprint does but their coverage is horrible..
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Does anyone have an issue where their One x eats data by an insane amount in a short period?When I first got my One X I went thru 1GB of data in like 2 days. I tethered for like an hour and the rest was just basic usage from my X itself. I've done a master reset since then and loaded a few my apps and usage seemed to have slowed but it still seems to use data more than normal. I noticed "Android OS" was using a lot of data. A lot of it was when I watched YouTube clips. Has anyone had this issue?
Edit: So I turned off wifi for a moment to browse on just the mobile network. The few pages I clicked on and scrolled thru for the past 5 or 6 minutes resulted in 4mb of data used with just the browser. Does that seem normal to anyone?
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Does anyone have an issue where their One x eats data by an insane amount in a short period?When I first got my One X I went thru 1GB of data in like 2 days. I tethered for like an hour and the rest was just basic usage from my X itself. I've done a master reset since then and loaded a few my apps and usage seemed to have slowed but it still seems to use data more than normal. I noticed "Android OS" was using a lot of data. A lot of it was when I watched YouTube clips. Has anyone had this issue?
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Do you have auto-sync and auto-backup turned on? Settings>Privacy>Backup and Settings>Accounts
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AT&T throttles back speeds of those who still have unlimited plans...I upgraded data w the vivid but wonder how much they reduce speeds by..I stream music through Rhapsody at 192 kbps and my data hits at least 3 gb per month..usually 4 but it's only another ten bucks...just hate that there is no true unlimited plan left..well I guess sprint does but their coverage is horrible..
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You "upgraded" to tiered data? That's far from an upgrade.. The unlt'd plans you get atleast 5GB(for lte owners) unthrottled, usually more, with a few hours/days unthrottled after. Even throttled you can do 500kbps.
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Do you have auto-sync and auto-backup turned on? Settings>Privacy>Backup and Settings>Accounts
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I do have auto sync turned on. But I turned off auto backup (just now, I have tried turning off auto backup beforei wiped but it didn't change anything ). The weird thing is its not like usage happens out of no where its when I actually access data apps like the browser or FB. I can literally see my data usage go up from the last time I checked it a few minutes ago on the usage meter.
Anyone here use their Nexus 5 on a prepaid cellphone plan that has no data or low data?
I am thinking about switching over to h2o's Unlimited Talk, Text and 500mb plan to save money and become less dependent on my cell phone. I find myself using about 5 GBS a month on straight talk but its nothing productive, just downloading the latest roms or downloading an app only to delete a few minutes later or checking facebook. I think I could get by fine just using wifi and then the 500MB to check email or use my GPS.
Thoughts?
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Anyone here use their Nexus 5 on a prepaid cellphone plan that has no data or low data?
I am thinking about switching over to h2o's Unlimited Talk, Text and 500mb plan to save money and become less dependent on my cell phone. I find myself using about 5 GBS a month on straight talk but its nothing productive, just downloading the latest roms or downloading an app only to delete a few minutes later or checking facebook. I think I could get by fine just using wifi and then the 500MB to check email or use my GPS.
Thoughts?
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No disrespect but try to find a hobby, its just a phone
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No disrespect but try to find a hobby, its just a phone
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I think you fail to see my point. This is XDA, where we talk about phones.
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I think you fail to see my point. This is XDA, where we talk about phones.
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True, but me personaly is see no point in flashing just to flash
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True, but me personaly is see no point in flashing just to flash
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I see no point in posting just to post.
But going off your post count and the lack of relation to the thread in your posts, you would disagree... Maybe you should get a hobby
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I see no point in posting just to post.
But going off your post count and the lack of relation to the thread in your posts, you would disagree... Maybe you should get a hobby
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Oke, lets call you the winner, i don`t argue to argue. You posted to get feedback and now you don`t like what i`am saying you make it personal. Good day bro
Hi,
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No disrespect but try to find a hobby, its just a phone
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Sorry but... Hobby can be phones, it depends of your point. Maybe because you are on stock non rooted (as I read if I'm not wrong) doesn't mean other users do not have their phones to test kernels, roms, tweak their phone as a hobby.
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True, but me personaly is see no point in flashing just to flash
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For testing purposes?
Like you download an app just to see or to test, you can download a rom and flash it to test, right?
That being said, for the OP, not sure a low data plan will make you less "dependent" (maybe good for money), if you have access to wifi? You can always download all the last roms via wifi
It will depend of your real use apart downloading rom, maybe it will be enough with only GPS (again it depends the frequency of use, GPS can be a huge consumer of data ) and email...
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Oke, lets call you the winner, i don`t argue to argue. You posted to get feedback and now you don`t like what i`am saying you make it personal. Good day bro
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But you didn't post relevant feedback at all. You meant complete offense and said I have no life just because I was asking about thoughts on switching to a lower costing phone plan. I don't see how that has anything to do with me having a life or not.
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But you didn't post relevant feedback at all. You meant complete offense and said I have no life just because I was asking about thoughts on switching to a lower costing phone plan. I don't see how that has anything to do with me having a life or not.
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You stated in your OP that you think you download and flash too much and you want to cutdown on your plan. If you download 5GB of data and its usefull its fine, but if you delete most of it its a waste of time. It was not my intention to say you have no life, as i don`t know you Lets keep it at this, i never attack or judge users, you can read all my posts if you want.
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That being said, for the OP, not sure a low data plan will make you less "dependent", if you have access to wifi? You can always download all the last roms via wifi
It will depend of your real use apart downloading rom, maybe it will be enough with only GPS (again it depends the frequency of use) and email...
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I mean dependent in terms of using the phone when I am out in about in public where wifi isnt available. I have no guilt about using my phone when I am sitting at home on the couch watching TV but it will deter the urge to browse the web when I am out with friends or something.
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You stated in your OP that you think you download and flash too much and you want to cutdown on your plan. If you download 5GB of data and its usefull its fine, but if you delete most of it its a waste of time. It was not my intention to say you have no life, as i don`t know you Lets keep it at this, i never attack or judge users, you can read all my posts if you want.
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Telling someone they need to find a hobby usually implies that you think someone doesn't have a life.
PS it takes literally 5 minutes to download and flash the latest nightly of cyanogemod. I am not downloading a miillion different roms each month. Just staying up to date.
edit: also and saying "no offense" before saying something offensive isn't a hall pass to say something rude.
What's the issue here "Nexus 5 on no data / low data plan." or hobbies.....let's end the hobby discussion. Thanks
Only issue I can think of is that most of the Google Now voice commands seem to require an internet connection to work.
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I am also on a limited data plan (400mb /mo) and find it kind of limiting. What i use is DS battery saver which turns off your data while your screen is off and turns it on every 30/45/60min for updates. It saves me some data and some battery so it's a win/win for me. I tend to limit my data navigation to mail/facebook and messaging apps and keep the cat gifs/videos for wifi/pc.
Another app you can try is onovo extend (it compresses the internet traffic trough their servers) but i found it a bit fiddly (never know if it's working or not and need to check it constantly) and i suspect it interferes with some apps (had a problem with my maps app but dont quote me on that).
Opera browser also compresses traffic for reduced data use.
Other than this, only your common sense and self control can bring your data use down. Being prepaid can't you buy more data anytime if you need it ?
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Anyone here use their Nexus 5 on a prepaid cellphone plan that has no data or low data?
I am thinking about switching over to h2o's Unlimited Talk, Text and 500mb plan to save money and become less dependent on my cell phone. I find myself using about 5 GBS a month on straight talk but its nothing productive, just downloading the latest roms or downloading an app only to delete a few minutes later or checking facebook. I think I could get by fine just using wifi and then the 500MB to check email or use my GPS.
Thoughts?
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I don't download much but still using 2gb a month - maybe go for 3 gig and see how that goes? 500mb is nothing nowadays.
I think unless you actually turn the data off, you'd struggle to stay under a 500GB a month allowance. Having seen what mine does on a day when I Fine really use it, id be concerned. You'd definitely need to tweak your sync settings and/or turn off data. Possibily even use opera browser or similar to compress your web pages.
Managing that plan sounds like too much of a chore
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I have a voice and text only plan using WiFi when I need the type of downloads you describe. If I want to watch videos or listen to Music I carry a Meenova OTG micoSD card reader (check the N5 accessories section) and preload the files I need. I consider most of the data plans to be a huge consumer ripoff and am not willing not shell out the bucks for a minor convenience. My comments are definitely personal choice and there are so many WiFi hot spots around the impact of not always having Internet access hasn't hit me yet.
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I have a voice and text only plan using WiFi when I need the type of downloads you describe. If I want to watch videos or listen to Music I carry a Meenova OTG micoSD card reader (check the N5 accessories section) and preload the files I need. I consider most of the data plans to be a huge consumer ripoff and am not willing not shell out the bucks for a minor convenience. My comments are definitely personal choice and there are so many WiFi hot spots around the impact of not always having Internet access hasn't hit me yet.
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I think this comes down to region too (pricing I mean).
In the UK you can get 200 minutes, 5000 texts and truly unlimited data for £12.90 a month (sim only). £15.90 if you want 600 minutes.
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Why do you have to download ROMs and apps over 3G? Don't you have wireless at home?
I can easily survive a month with 500MB, while checking my e-mail a few times a day (about 10 e-mails over 5 syncs), checking a few tens of articles over feedly and reading at least 5-10 of them, playing 8 Ball Pool (by Miniclip) at least on hour, using Waze for at least half an hour and other occasional searches. I only install apps over 3G on rare occasions (once a week at most), and when I cannot wait until I get home. And sometimes I'm wondering how could I wisely use more data, not to pile it up at the end of the month.
But that's just me...
Both me and my wife manage fine on a 250mb monthly plan. Over 3G we only need the odd update for the weather app and the usual Whatsapp photos and videos, from other family members. Whilst the photos and vids do consume most of that meagre allowance it still works out fine. The videos will get downloaded when at home and using the wi-fi connection.
Knowing that we are "restricted" on a tight data plan (but managing fine) it does tend to discipline me to no longer bother about using the phone more "frivolously", in terms of data usage, and I suppose when I'm at home I'll use my tablet or PC, much bigger screens etc.
Neither of us feel restricted in our use, and it works out much cheaper, but it does focus the attention away from the phone and the habitual data usage which was neither important nor needed.