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ChameleonOS first public beta is out!!

Just a heads up that our ChameleonOS (ChaOS) public beta is out www.chameleonos.org. We should have our threads up in the development section in the next few days, but you can feel free to give it a try now.

Just installed. Seems great so far. No issues with the install, and everything seems to be running smooth. Great work!

troby86 said:
Just installed. Seems great so far. No issues with the install, and everything seems to be running smooth. Great work!
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I've been running it for a while now before release and haven't come across any issues, would be nice to see if i missed something
Keep in mind if you want to change themes you can use MIUI themes, just there may few a images that don't cross over, but they almost completely theme it. We hope more themers pick up now that we are released

linds6630 said:
I've been running it for a while now before release and haven't come across any issues, would be nice to see if i missed something
Keep in mind if you want to change themes you can use MIUI themes, just there may few a images that don't cross over, but they almost completely theme it. We hope more themers pick up now that we are released
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This looks neat.
Is this based on CM10.1 or CM10 releases, or branched a long time ago?
Does the theme engine allow a customizable phone dialer layout? I never liked the CM10 dialer, but I know some roms allowed the ui to be shuffled.
I should probably just download and try it, but my internet isn't handling another big download right now.

jamus28 said:
This looks neat.
Is this based on CM10.1 or CM10 releases, or branched a long time ago?
Does the theme engine allow a customizable phone dialer layout? I never liked the CM10 dialer, but I know some roms allowed the ui to be shuffled.
I should probably just download and try it, but my internet isn't handling another big download right now.
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It is based off 10.1, as of now you can't change layouts, but that app hasn't been worked on yet, and has plans to change..we have a thread on our forums for suggestions if you have dialer layout ideas in mind
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Hmm, finally something new which is not a mashup of CM, AOKP or PA.
Are Gapps included?

edisso10018 said:
Hmm, finally something new which is not a mashup of CM, AOKP or PA.
Are Gapps included?
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Nope, grab gapps for 4.2.2
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AW: ChameleonOS first public beta is out!!
Which one is the beta? The build from April 1st?

April 1st is the beta release, the rest are nightlies, but I haven't encountered any problems yet with them
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Looks great! I will give this a try tonight.
Thanks!
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thanks ill try this
Edit: Ok I lasted about 5 mins before restoring my backup.. maybe in time more will be added to it but for now its not for me. Nice to see more roms though

Is this based on the 4.1.2 cm builds? Just read a couple post back. It says cm 10.1. I checked the change log and it says 4.1.2. Trying to port this. Been using 4.2.2. As base.
Never mind I looked at the build prop says 4.2.2.
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downloading tonight for sure. nice to have something new to mess around with.
can someone test bluetooth and see if an echo is present?
lindsay, i'm assuming that themes are not present on Ville?

darkchyldx101 said:
Is this based on the 4.1.2 cm builds? Just read a couple post back. It says cm 10.1. I checked the change log and it says 4.1.2. Trying to port this. Been using 4.2.2. As base.
Never mind I looked at the build prop says 4.2.2.
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port it? It's open sourced, there's no need to port anything
Krayvon said:
downloading tonight for sure. nice to have something new to mess around with.
can someone test bluetooth and see if an echo is present?
lindsay, i'm assuming that themes are not present on Ville?
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It comes with the default theme applied, but you can apply any chaos or MIUI themes
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Only option for me is to port. Don't have the hardware to build anything at the moment. Running a 32 bit PC. I believe you need a 64 bit to build unless I read wrong. I'm still learning the ropes.
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Beautiful looking ROM, but I could not get wifi to work.
Is this just me, or are others experiencing this?

No problem here. Did you flash boot.img?

swamp dog said:
Beautiful looking ROM, but I could not get wifi to work.
Is this just me, or are others experiencing this?
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edisso10018 said:
No problem here. Did you flash boot.img?
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No problem here either, Wi-Fi has never been an issue for me
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edisso10018 said:
No problem here. Did you flash boot.img?
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No problem here either, Wi-Fi has never been an issue for me
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No, but I will later, thanks!

Ville c2 support?
Hey!
What about the ville c2 ?
We don't have cm 10.1 support, any chance to get chameleon?
Screens are looking nice!

STABLE version of CM 10.1.3 released today

had to share to news http://get.cm/?type=stable

Do i still have to install G-APPS?

Yes you still have to install GAPPs. I doubt that'll ever change.

I wonder if this one is still full of bugs like all the nightlies.

Haven't had any problems yet so far.

emckai said:
Haven't had any problems yet so far.
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That's cool. I'm gonna let it play out for a little while before I switch to it. So far it's proved it's no good for day to day operations with all the bugs, but I'm hoping that's all been fixed with the stable release.

No good for day to day operations? I haven't tried out the nightlies, but I tried out the RC2 released about a month ago and haven't had any problems. Not sure what kind of bugs you are talking about.

emckai said:
No good for day to day operations? I haven't tried out the nightlies, but I tried out the RC2 released about a month ago and haven't had any problems. Not sure what kind of bugs you are talking about.
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Really? Maybe it was just me. I tried it for a while and went through a few nightlies, and there was just to many problems. One of the big issues I had was the device not rebooting. Yes I know how to get it to boot up, but it's a total pain. Had another big issue with the gapps package with some of the apps putting a huge drain on the battery. I absolutely love CM. I wish there was a total stable version (which now I guess there is). But for me to use it everyday, especially for work as well, I just can't justify having it with all the issues I had. I also had some issues with reception on the phone.

There is no such thing as a Bug-less CM release, 'Stable' maybe for some people. Will everything work as it should for everybody? not the case.

eortizr said:
There is no such thing as a Bug-less CM release, 'Stable' maybe for some people. Will everything work as it should for everybody? not the case.
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+1
the RC's are actually more stable for "most", but can still have issues for some.
on Nightlies you can have something working one night and it is changed and not working the next.
they are a WIP
the gapps flashing goes way back to an agreement btwn Cyanogen and Google. Forget details

I guess i do not know how to use tapatalk, did not mean to thank you especially 4 times. Anyways nightlies are not going to be stable.

ddswanson said:
I guess i do not know how to use tapatalk, did not mean to thank you especially 4 times. Anyways nightlies are not going to be stable.
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you can only thank once no matter how often you hit thanks--

agent929 said:
Really? Maybe it was just me. I tried it for a while and went through a few nightlies, and there was just to many problems. One of the big issues I had was the device not rebooting. Yes I know how to get it to boot up, but it's a total pain. Had another big issue with the gapps package with some of the apps putting a huge drain on the battery. I absolutely love CM. I wish there was a total stable version (which now I guess there is). But for me to use it everyday, especially for work as well, I just can't justify having it with all the issues I had. I also had some issues with reception on the phone.
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eortizr said:
There is no such thing as a Bug-less CM release, 'Stable' maybe for some people. Will everything work as it should for everybody? not the case.
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Stable just means...that it is probably the most stable that cm will ever reach on a specific device...so not much point in waiting it out, I doubt it will get any more stable
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Agreed
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agent929 said:
Agreed
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I finally flashed it today...haven't run into any problems or FCs yet...although I haven't been on my phone much (working)
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Just flashed this. The keyboard crashes at start up. Anyone else having this issue?

twostep665 said:
Just flashed this. The keyboard crashes at start up. Anyone else having this issue?
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Working fine for me, no problems with the keyboard or anything else but I haven't given it a thorough workout yet.

twostep665 said:
Just flashed this. The keyboard crashes at start up. Anyone else having this issue?
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Did you flash the 4.2.2 gapps? My KB kept crashing because I flashed the 4.3 gapps by mistake.
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I see what I did. PSA: you shouldn't flash things in the middle of the night when you are falling asleep! I flashed cm 10.1.2 and the 4.3 gapps. Whoops! Reflashed 10.1.3 and 4.3 gapps and i'm good to go.

twostep665 said:
I see what I did. PSA: you shouldn't flash things in the middle of the night when you are falling asleep! I flashed cm 10.1.2 and the 4.3 gapps. Whoops! Reflashed 10.1.3 and 4.3 gapps and i'm good to go.
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I hope you mean 4.2 gapps because I think 4.3 gapps is only for 10.2CM

any AOSP roms in the works?

Not sure which section this would go in so sorry if it's the wrong one.
Loving the M8 to death probably the best phone I've ever owned other than my gnex but would love to see some AOSP roms. Don't really care for sense and would love more of a lightweight Rom like AOSP. I feel we would get better performance as far as speed and battery life as well.
So is anyone working on one? Or need any testers?
Do you think an AOSP Rom would be perfect for the M8?

The ROM section(s)? GPE edition comes out in 4 days, I'm sure there will be some ports relatively quickly after that.

There is a GPE port and CM11. They aren't perfect yet but you can run them. Aren't too hard to find if you look around.
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brandogg said:
The ROM section(s)? GPE edition comes out in 4 days, I'm sure there will be some ports relatively quickly after that.
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Eh?
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Well I can't post in the Rom section and the way it sits gpe isn't a daily driver nor has it been updated since the first alpha release. Not a fan of cm but good to hear it's coming. Just tired of sense holding this phone back.

The GPE port works okay other than some lag and the camera is annoying but works. They were saying to look in those sections not post there. Once CM11 is working I'm sure we'll see more but for now those are the options.
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Keithn said:
The GPE port works okay other than some lag and the camera is annoying but works. They were saying to look in those sections not post there. Once CM11 is working I'm sure we'll see more but for now those are the options.
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I do not consider CM to be asop. GPE yes, which I hope gets updated to fix the camera and what not because I can't use a Rom with a non stable camera. And I've already checked the Rom section or I wouldn't 've posting asking just saying. I'll just sit back and wait for something which I'm sure is coming sooner than later. I may end up
Brewing an asop Rom myself. Thanks for the input though guys!

To be clear - when I say GPE, I'm referring to the actual phone (One M8 Google Play Edition, ships on the 9th), not the ROM posted in the Android development forum.
Also, I literally just picked up this phone about an hour ago, and while I'm a huge fan of "stock," HTC has done an incredible job with this release.

brandogg said:
To be clear - when I say GPE, I'm referring to the actual phone (One M8 Google Play Edition, ships on the 9th), not the ROM posted in the Android development forum.
Also, I literally just picked up this phone about an hour ago, and while I'm a huge fan of "stock," HTC has done an incredible job with this release.
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I definitely agree HTC stepped their game up with sense 6 and keeping it's bloatware to the minimum. That being said I still prefer straight stock asop for its speed and battery not to mention I hate clutter. Also congrats on the new m8 which I'm sure you'll love. I love mine too that's why I didn't wait for the gpe device.

Keithn said:
Once CM11 is working I'm sure we'll see more but for now those are the options.
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CM11 is working to perfection for me, it's my daily driver as of around noon today! <G>

CM11 is smooth and its only a prebuild out right now .. im loving it .. almost everything works .. its not perfect but its really really good

ANTHONY81L said:
CM11 is smooth and its only a prebuild out right now .. im loving it .. almost everything works .. its not perfect but its really really good
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That's actually beautiful. What's working and what's not? Also where did you get it from? It's not in our Rom section.

ANTHONY81L said:
CM11 is smooth and its only a prebuild out right now .. im loving it .. almost everything works .. its not perfect but its really really good
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I man where did you get that
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shawnten said:
I man where did you get that
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52421819
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ruccarucca said:
That's actually beautiful. What's working and what's not? Also where did you get it from? It's not in our Rom section.
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shawnten said:
I man where did you get that
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http://d-h.st/5Xs <-- from the dev himself but this version doesnt flash with twrp unless you know how to remove the asserts from the updater script .. i flashed this with Philz cwm recovery in the original dev section
https://mega.co.nz/#!8VEUDACD!n5nfBQYRnFymOup9NUxaAr0p7ZzrFvyf6jtX6wVMEDI <--- this version is what someone else posted .. said its the same rom just with the asserts already removed so that it works with twrp without having to do anything special
REMEMBER go download KK Gapps ... i recommend the stock normal Gapps .. i tried PA Gapps first and it kinda wasnt running right
themes i used were a combo of Moonshine (playstore free) and Black moonshine (playstore paid) both are gorgeous icon sets ... MAKE A BACKUP BEFORE YOU FLASH THIS GUYS !!!!

CM11, LiquidSmooth & OSE are all available for the HTC One M8

krazie1 said:
CM11, LiquidSmooth & OSE are all available for the HTC One M8
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Link for ose ? I know I heard liquid still had quite a few more bugs than cn11

ANTHONY81L said:
Link for ose ? I know I heard liquid still had quite a few more bugs than cn11
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http://www.drdevs.com/devs/teamose/OSE/Nightlies/
OSE hasn't been updated since April so don't know what issues it has. Liquidsmooth 05/06 Nightly can be flashed via TWRP now but has these following bugs:
*No In call audio (they can't hear you & you can't hear them)
*Headphone jack still broken
*FFC is broken
*Low Resolution MMS Quality

CM11 5/6 nightly...
Works:
Installs on TWRP now, headphone works (using it now), camera works. Wifi works. Regular calls through the phone itself work.
Doesn't work:
Speakerphone still doesn't work.
Untested by me:
Bluetooth. MMS.
Looking better all the time.
Jason

JasonJoel said:
CM11 5/6 nightly...
Works:
Installs on TWRP now, headphone works (using it now), camera works. Wifi works. Regular calls through the phone itself work.
Doesn't work:
Speakerphone still doesn't work.
Untested by me:
Bluetooth. MMS.
Looking better all the time.
Jason
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can you link me, please?

CM11 is more important than CM11s?

Why is the Cyanogen team putting more focus on CM11 unopposed to CM11s which is supposed to be their unique software for the Oneplus One? They even rolled out a Nexus-esque rom just yesterday.
This move doesn't make sense to me from a marketing standpoint. One would think the best way for them to go is to make sure CM11s is bug free and then focus on CM11 or whatever else.
THIS IS NOT A RANT. I'm literally confused so please keep all negative comments to yourself.
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I would think it's because CM11 is on more devices (many more) than CM11S

there's only 1 phone that runs CM11S, where as almost every other phone has a build of CM11. There are even CM11 nightlies for the OPO if you would rather use that.
why would they focus all their efforts on one specific phone? THAT would not make good sense.
CM11S is meant to be a finished product. There will be stable finished builds in the future, but no nightlies.

FuNKSioN said:
there's only 1 phone that runs CM11S, where as almost every other phone has a build of CM11. There are even CM11 nightlies for the OPO if you would rather use that.
why would they focus all their efforts on one specific phone? THAT would not make good sense.
CM11S is meant to be a finished product. There will be stable finished builds in the future, but no nightlies.
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From the Amount of bugs I can assure you that CM11s is far from finished.
I'm getting a better experience with CM11 + CM11S Apps. I'd recommend that.

FuNKSioN said:
there's only 1 phone that runs CM11S, where as almost every other phone has a build of CM11. There are even CM11 nightlies for the OPO if you would rather use that.
why would they focus all their efforts on one specific phone? THAT would not make good sense.
CM11S is meant to be a finished product. There will be stable finished builds in the future, but no nightlies.
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I know it is meant to be a finished product, that's why I'm confused as to why they are still pushing the Nightlies so hard. Shouldn't CM11S be their main focus especially since this is their flagship?
Also isn't CM11 almost the same as CM11s except for subtle visual changes like the lock screen, etc? I would of thought that Cyanogen would of at least did CM11s nightlies.
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drakester09 said:
From the Amount of bugs I can assure you that CM11s is far from finished.
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I guess "finished" was the wrong word. what I meant was "stable ready for release". as in, no nightlies, snapshots, milestones, etc..
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OuncE718 said:
I know it is meant to be a finished product, that's why I'm confused as to why they are still pushing the Nightlies so hard. Shouldn't CM11S be their main focus especially since this is their flagship?
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nightlies are simply made available. they aren't pushing anything. the code base is compiled on a "nightly" schedule, and if anyone wants it they can go get it.
CM11S is by no means a flagship for Cyanogenmod in any way. its just a version they compiled for the OPO. The OPO was meant to be the first marketable consumer phone running stock CM. No company anywhere is making "nightlies" available for consumer products.
OuncE718 said:
Also isn't CM11 almost the same as CM11s except for subtle visual changes like the lock screen, etc? I would of thought that Cyanogen would of at least did CM11s nightlies.
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is there something specific in a newer nightly that you want on your OPO, or do you just want "whatever is the newest I can get my hands on"? if that's the case, you can easily switch over to a CM nightly.

FuNKSioN said:
I guess "finished" was the wrong word. what I meant was "stable ready for release". as in, no nightlies, snapshots, milestones, etc..
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nightlies are simply made available. they aren't pushing anything. the code base is compiled on a "nightly" schedule, and if anyone wants it they can go get it.
CM11S is by no means a flagship for Cyanogenmod in any way. its just a version they compiled for the OPO. The OPO was meant to be the first marketable consumer phone running stock CM. No company anywhere is making "nightlies" available for consumer products.
is there something specific in a newer nightly that you want on your OPO, or do you just want "whatever is the newest I can get my hands on"? if that's the case, you can easily switch over to a CM nightly.
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From what I've read the Nightlies are more stable than CM11s. What I would definitely want is the stability. There is too many bugs on the stock ROM but at the same time I don't want to have to flash a custom ROM to get stability.
I do understand that this phone isn't officially released yet so I am grateful for beta testing the software.
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They are the same thing. Cm11 has nightly builds that are for every device where features are added and bugs are fixed. They are not considered stable. There are also monthly milestone builds which are considered somewhat stable. Cm11s is based on milestone builds with added proprietary code. You should see cm11s updates no sooner than every two weeks and no later than ever month. Any sooner would be annoying.
Cyanogen and OnePlus are not the same company. OnePlus made a stock android ROM based on source code to get people to shut up about making gpe phone. It's not Google certified so it doesn't include Google services or the play store. It's not signed by cyanogen so it doesn't flash with out unlocking the bootloader and using a different recovery.
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The Jack of Clubs said:
They are the same thing. Cm11 has nightly builds that are for every device where features are added and bugs are fixed. They are not considered stable. There are also monthly milestone builds which are considered somewhat stable. Cm11s is based on milestone builds with added proprietary code. You should see cm11s updates no sooner than every two weeks and no later than ever month. Any sooner would be annoying.
Cyanogen and OnePlus are not the same company. OnePlus made a stock android ROM based on source code to get people to shut up about making gpe phone. It's not Google certified so it doesn't include Google services or the play store. It's not signed by cyanogen so it doesn't flash with out unlocking the bootloader and using a different recovery.
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It doesn't need to be certified by Google, its treated as a custom ROM and is not officially supported by the company. It has a separate gapps package to get Google Services/Play Store just like any other custom ROM.
Think of it as a 'reference rom' for other developers to get on the AOSP train if they choose to do so.

zephiK said:
It doesn't need to be certified by Google, its treated as a custom ROM and is not officially supported by the company. It has a separate gapps package to get Google Services/Play Store just like any other custom ROM.
Think of it as a 'reference rom' for other developers to get on the AOSP train if they choose to do so.
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I'm aware. Is built from the cm source without the cm customizations.
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can you dirty flash to regular cm, or is it different enough that we need to wipe the system?

I do agree that CM11 nightly is much more stable than CM11s.
But I still like CM11 looks though. CM11s a bit weird for me.

OnePlus One will be getting a new version of CM11S very soon. And will get Android L one released also... why waste time on older versions? OP clearly has no business sense... There has already been one official OTA that fixed some things (nothing is broken on my OnePlus One, everything works great) There are also 4 or 5 official roms... flashing doesn't void warranty... so I'd say they're doing quite well actually.
Swyped on my awesome OnePlus One 64gb
Unlock bootloader - check
Root access - check
TWRP recovery - check
Warranty still good - check

[Q] Any ROM that is based on CM11S

Hi there,
A quick one, is there any rom that is based on CM11S but not CM11 (If you know what i'm talking about)
I'd prefer CM11S because some of their apps, lock screen, camera. and etc.

reinerlee said:
Hi there,
A quick one, is there any rom that is based on CM11S but not CM11 (If you know what i'm talking about)
I'd prefer CM11S because some of their apps, lock screen, camera. and etc.
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There are a few mods already floating around to give you some CM11s goodies, but CM11 is what the other Roms are based on as CM11s isn't fully open sourced..
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reinerlee said:
Hi there,
A quick one, is there any rom that is based on CM11S but not CM11 (If you know what i'm talking about)
I'd prefer CM11S because some of their apps, lock screen, camera. and etc.
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There's an apk version of the camera in the Mahdi ROM thread. What other apps do you want?
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Setting.Out said:
There are a few mods already floating around to give you some CM11s goodies, but CM11 is what the other Roms are based on as CM11s isn't fully open sourced..
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Yeah, I've expected the source is not opened yet too. thanks for the tips
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There's an apk version of the camera in the Mahdi ROM thread. What other apps do you want?
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It's not just the apps. it's the feeling. I understood that everybody prefers more AOSP feeling on their phone. But I've tested few roms around the forum. It just doesn't give me what i want from CM11S.
But to me, I feel AOSP is more for Nexus devices (I had a nexus one before). And my previous Galaxy S3, also same using Samsung ROM instead. regardless their slowness.

reinerlee said:
Yeah, I've expected the source is not opened yet too. thanks for the tips
It's not just the apps. it's the feeling. I understood that everybody prefers more AOSP feeling on their phone. But I've tested few roms around the forum. It just doesn't give me what i want from CM11S.
But to me, I feel AOSP is more for Nexus devices (I had a nexus one before). And my previous Galaxy S3, also same using Samsung ROM instead. regardless their slowness.
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I'm not sure what you mean. The only real difference between CM11S and CM11 is the lockscreen and a little bit of theming. Other than that they're pretty much exactly the same.
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timmaaa said:
I'm not sure what you mean. The only real difference between CM11S and CM11 is the lockscreen and a little bit of theming. Other than that they're pretty much exactly the same.
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Haha, I just lack of words of explaining everything. pardon me.

reinerlee said:
Yeah, I've expected the source is not opened yet too. thanks for the tips
It's not just the apps. it's the feeling. I understood that everybody prefers more AOSP feeling on their phone. But I've tested few roms around the forum. It just doesn't give me what i want from CM11S.
But to me, I feel AOSP is more for Nexus devices (I had a nexus one before). And my previous Galaxy S3, also same using Samsung ROM instead. regardless their slowness.
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You can get CM11S to be identical in every perceivable way to the nexus. I have that right now. There is virtually no difference between the two when you have it set up correctly.
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The only difference would be the lock screen. You can for sure get the camera, and I think it's possible for audio fx. But if not that's okay, check into Viper 4 android, it's a nice mod and works better than audio fx in my opinion.
The cm nightlies are more superior as they include fixes that are to be added in the next Ota. So you won't have to wait as long. This includes wifi settings fc with themes, in call audio, gestures being used when your phone is in your pocket, etc
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In my opinion, the camera is different. Even when you use CM camera app on AOSP ROM
I noticed better pictures taken using CM11S Rom using The CM Camera App
I have been using CM Camera app on a AOSP ROM and it's not as good as the CM11S ROM..
Maybe this is just me?

opensourcenoob said:
In my opinion, the camera is different. Even when you use CM camera app on AOSP ROM
I noticed better pictures taken using CM11S Rom using The CM Camera App
I have been using CM Camera app on a AOSP ROM and it's not as good as the CM11S ROM..
Maybe this is just me?
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Its most likely placebo. Are you using the CM11S camera that is XNPH33R version and not using XNPH25R CM Camera on AOSP?
Attached is XNPH33R Camera apk

If there are differences in camera.msm8974.so and other proprietaries in cm11 and cm11s, it can be different effect at last but they should be same due to latest changes