Gnabo Rom v1 to V6.5, which is smoother and better?
I've tried both 5 and 6.5, but my device still gets the "unfortunately, .... was closed" error sometimes.
Anybody else with better experiences?
I use N8000.
Anyone here?
Dondav said:
Anyone here?
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I used tha same versions and can say that the last one 6.5 is pretty stable, far more better than stock kk room and makes the device competitive to the new devices. Strongly recommend to wipe them all and make a new install. Use twrm recovery, you can find everything in the forum.
karaern said:
I used tha same versions and can say that the last one 6.5 is pretty stable, far more better than stock kk room and makes the device competitive to the new devices. Strongly recommend to wipe them all and make a new install. Use twrm recovery, you can find everything in the forum.
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Twrm?... Lots of pages on the forum.
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Twrm?... Lots of pages on the forum.
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I'll love to get the full instructions, as I currently still run official kitkat.
im on gnabo v6 now,is very stable n smooth,i dont know about v6.5,maybe im waiting gnabo v7
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Hi, I have recently rooted my Desire S, with revolutionary, clockwork etc, and I currently ported this rom HTC_DESIRE_S_2.3.5-2.10.401.4.zip
Everything is working just fine, but theoretically, when I decide to port a new rom, how would I know which will work, and which won't?
Actually, I'm waiting until ICS is released for desire s, so I can find it and install it...
Are there any methods to identify which rom would be compatible?
Thank you!
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Hi, I have recently rooted my Desire S, with revolutionary, clockwork etc, and I currently ported this rom HTC_DESIRE_S_2.3.5-2.10.401.4.zip
Everything is working just fine, but theoretically, when I decide to port a new rom, how would I know which will work, and which won't?
Actually, I'm waiting until ICS is released for desire s, so I can find it and install it...
Are there any methods to identify which rom would be compatible?
Thank you!
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hey mate
your're actually talking about two different things: porting a ROM and flashing a ROM.
Porting means, you take a ROM from another device and modify it so it works on your device too.
flashing means, you take a ROM which is already optimized for your device
and install it, so you wipe the stock firmware and get a custom rom.
which of the two things is what you want to do? i think its just the flashing.
so you can take any ROM from the "development section", and if you follow the guides that you can find everywhere here im sure you will be succesfull and happy with it.
bytheway
there is no "best" ROM for your device. it all depends on what you need and want. there are alot sense 3.5 Roms, Endymion 3.4 is the one i would recommend. you can also try AOSP ROMs (android open source project, means no sense), cyanogenmod7 could be a good first choice. and you can also try ics right now, since there are at least 3 (?) ICS AOSP ROMs right now:
CM9, Virtuous Quattro RC3, IceColdSandwich
have fun!
Yes I meant "flashing" a rom
Thanks for all the information. That's the general idea I have as well, however I had this question because after I flashed another rom (official rom through htc sync - that could have been the problem) over my first flashed one , the phone was "bricked"....
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Yes I meant "flashing" a rom
Thanks for all the information. That's the general idea I have as well, however I had this question because after I flashed another rom (official rom through htc sync - that could have been the problem) over my first flashed one , the phone was "bricked"....
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i would never recommend to flash an official ROM over a custom ROM. But anyways, i think if you would have done a full wipe before flashing the official rom you wouldnt have got a "you call it brick"
a real "BRICK" is a useless phone, where there is no way to use it again.if there is still a way, its no brick.. but who cares about definitions
I recommend you to flash the ROMs only through recovery mode. AND ALWAYS DO A FULL WIPE BEFORE FLASHING A NEW ROM. very important
and dont forget to backup as always
Yes you are absolutely right. I'll have that in mind the next time I'll decide to flash a new one
Yeah the device wasn't completely useless, it hanged at boot...but I guess that was due to not following the right procedure as you previously described..
Thanks eyahl
Start flashing different roms and trying them for a day or two. First
Sens 3.0 and then sense 3.5 roms to see the difference. Only then you will know which rom is best for you.
+1 for Endymion 3.4,
+1 for Endymion
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium
+1 Endymion
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
edymion, will try it
+1266592.23 for Endymion
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Yes you are absolutely right. I'll have that in mind the next time I'll decide to flash a new one
Yeah the device wasn't completely useless, it hanged at boot...but I guess that was due to not following the right procedure as you previously described..
Thanks eyahl
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Each ROM type suits different personal tastes, so there isn't an 'best' ROM for everyone. Trial and Error which ones suit you!
General opinions:
Stock
Pro: Straight from HTC, *newest kernel/drivers*, least likely to have compatibility issues.
Cons: HTC is slow to release updates, and sense interface is usually resource hungry.
Sense-like
Pro: usually keep the Sense interface, but custom kernals offer speed / various other improvements.Runnymead versions are kernals ported across from HTC Sensation (which offer some of the goodies like Beats Audio etc. that were not originally developed for Saga.
Cons: Sense interface is resource hungry...
CyanogenMod based
Pro: offer lots of customisations
Cons: not the most user friendly
AOSP
Pro: Roms from the android source, usually less resource hungry, so lighter and faster.
Cons: Obviously, no sense.
ICS Alpha/Beta
Not strictly a new category, but builds from the new Android 4.0 (ICS).
Currently some things (like camera) isn't fully working yet.
Note: new Desire S may suffer from camera/video lag bug with non-stock / non-sense ROMs, this is due to HTC putting in new hardware / driver into the new DS phones and the other kernels not reflecting this change yet.
Personally, I use SenseMOD Lite V1.2 build 2 as it is one of the few AOSP like builds that don't have the camera bug. Oxygen would have been best choice for me but unfortunately camera bug makes it unusable.
Hey guys. I don't want to drive over your feet, but I think the OP is already very satisfied with all those replies. specially the post above is really trying to help, but you spend much time to type what has already been written on the first page.
I appreciate your intend to help, bit I think the OP isn't gonna read this anymore..
Btw: endy!...
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Hello xda. My friend recently ordered an one s and he asked me to make his phone good. I'm from another forum(u8800pro) and i post ROMs there so i don't have the time to work on this phone and I'm asking you here.
1)Is there any 4.2 ROM? If so is it stable?
2)In case he wants 4.1.x what's the best option for a guy that knows NOTHING about android?
3)Which is the best kernel for 4.1.x?
4)Which is the most stable ROM for daily use and hard gaming anyway?
5)How to root it?
6)Which recoveries are available for this phone?
7)What is the ROM flashing method for this phone and what is hboot?
8)What is needed to flash a ROM on the phone exactly as it comes out of the box?
Any help is appreciated because the phone will arrive in 2-3 days.
-UPDATE its an S4
Thanks in advance!
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Hello xda. My friend recently ordered an one s and he asked me to make his phone good. I'm from another forum(u8800pro) and i post ROMs there so i don't have the time to work on this phone and I'm asking you here.
1)Is there any 4.2 ROM? If so is it stable?
2)In case he wants 4.1.x what's the best option for a guy that knows NOTHING about android?
3)Which is the best kernel for 4.1.x?
4)Which is the most stable ROM for daily use and hard gaming anyway?
5)How to root it?
6)Which recoveries are available for this phone?
7)What is the ROM flashing method for this phone and what is hboot?
8)What is needed to flash a ROM on the phone exactly as it comes out of the box?
Any help is appreciated because the phone will arrive in 2-3 days.
Thanks in advance!
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To answer any of this you first need to know if it's a S3 or S4.
Because this determines which ROMs or recoverys you can flash.
Sent from my HTC One S running TrickDroid 4.0
Schlengge said:
To answer any of this you first need to know if it's a S3 or S4.
Because this determines which ROMs or recoverys you can flash.
Sent from my HTC One S running TrickDroid 4.0
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It's a S4.
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It's a S4.
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CM10 would be your best bet then and you will need to fastboot the boot.img and TWRP is the best recovery to use.
Darknites said:
CM10 would be your best bet then and you will need to fastboot the boot.img and TWRP is the best recovery to use.
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I'll never understand the deal with CM.
Personally I dont like it at all. There seems to always be at least one important feature not working properly.
I go against the stream and say, if hes not used to android I think rooted stock with maybe a different kernel would be more than enough for him.
The only downside with stock rom is that it lacks features for the more advanced users (like the majority on this site ).
Other than that the stock is actually pretty damn good.
Its by far the best stock rom Ive encountered, but this is my first HTC device though (unless you count my old QTek 9100 )
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I'll never understand the deal with CM.
Personally I dont like it at all. There seems to always be at least one important feature not working properly.
I go against the stream and say, if hes not used to android I think rooted stock with maybe a different kernel would be more than enough for him.
The only downside with stock rom is that it lacks features for the more advanced users (like the majority on this site ).
Other than that the stock is actually pretty damn good.
Its by far the best stock rom Ive encountered, but this is my first HTC device though (unless you count my old QTek 9100 )
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For me Sense is over the top but I do kinder like it.
Hi, I'm kinda new here, bought the tablet only few days ago and didn't play with it too much,
Have updated to the latest official version (4.1.2) and rooted.
I'm on N8013.
I saw the half-way leaked version of the kitkat on the general post but it says no word if it fits for anything else but N8000.
I don't really care for Kitkat but 4.1.2 is too old..
Any stable release / ROM with TW for a newer version? (I prefer stock)
kinda hard to tell since most of the posts are from 2012 and I have never been to any of them.. you probably know better than I do.
Thanks !
The leaked rom works fine on my N8013, I didn't even have to wipe out my device, kept all my apps from 4.1.2 to 4.4.2. Unfortunately, there is no other versions of Samsung's rom between 4.1.2 and 4.4.2. If you really want to upgrade, I think the leaked rom works fine. As long as you have made a backup in some recovery, you shouldn't have much to worry about.
mcjordan92 said:
Hi, I'm kinda new here, bought the tablet only few days ago and didn't play with it too much,
Have updated to the latest official version (4.1.2) and rooted.
I'm on N8013.
I saw the half-way leaked version of the kitkat on the general post but it says no word if it fits for anything else but N8000.
I don't really care for Kitkat but 4.1.2 is too old..
Any stable release / ROM with TW for a newer version? (I prefer stock)
kinda hard to tell since most of the posts are from 2012 and I have never been to any of them.. you probably know better than I do.
Thanks !
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The leaked KitKat verion is for testing purpose only, many features disabled.
Stock or close to stock ROM is available, ARHD is the one.
I'm using ARHD for years now & it's very stable.
Read carefully & understand everything on the ARHD thread before doing anything.
d4rkkn16ht said:
The leaked KitKat verion is for testing purpose only, many features disabled.
Stock or close to stock ROM is available, ARHD is the one.
I'm using ARHD for years now & it's very stable.
Read carefully & understand everything on the ARHD thread before doing anything.
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All the features work. You can flash a deodexed rom, install some mods, and you are good to go
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-P905 met Tapatalk
Hmm ARHD = revolution?
If so it is also 4.1 so it ain't worth switching. ?
If not please link me..
And about the leaked 4.4.. what do you mean not all features are enabled?
Could you say which? And deodexed run over the disability? Is it stable enough?
I really have no time and effort to fight with mess and bugs..
Thank you for your tips
mcjordan92 said:
Hmm ARHD = revolution?
If so it is also 4.1 so it ain't worth switching. ?
If not please link me..
And about the leaked 4.4.. what do you mean not all features are enabled?
Could you say which? And deodexed run over the disability? Is it stable enough?
I really have no time and effort to fight with mess and bugs..
Thank you for your tips
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ARHD = Android Revolution HD
ARHD is the best close to stock 4.1.2 ROM I've ever use. (I have HTC Sensation & GT-N8000 all using ARHD)
Right now there is no Stock KitKat for N8000/8013/8010/8020
All you can get is LEAKED version of KitKat which is only for TESTING purpose, so don't expect to get all features working.
Some "testers" said they get all features working, some said WiFi is not working.
I will not recommend you to flash it, at least wait for official release.
Official KitKat release may be very different / may have features not in the Leaked TEST ROM
[GT-N8000][Leaked firmware] N8000XXUDND5 (Android 4.4) - Open Europe (OXA) [26-04-14]
NOTE:
Mike, the ARHD chef, said he will cook KitKat ROM as soon as the official release out on the net
Lord Boeffla also said that he will make KitKat version of Boeffla Kernel as soon as the official release is there.
Running the Gnabo ROM V1
mcjordan92 said:
Hi, I'm kinda new here, bought the tablet only few days ago and didn't play with it too much,
Have updated to the latest official version (4.1.2) and rooted.
I'm on N8013.
I saw the half-way leaked version of the kitkat on the general post but it says no word if it fits for anything else but N8000.
I don't really care for Kitkat but 4.1.2 is too old..
Any stable release / ROM with TW for a newer version? (I prefer stock)
kinda hard to tell since most of the posts are from 2012 and I have never been to any of them.. you probably know better than I do.
Thanks !
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I have installed and running Gnabo ROM V1.
It is a great ROM , it seems that on my N8013 if you take away the fact that my WiFi does some 'lags' everything works simply fine.
Stratos
mcjordan92 said:
Hi, I'm kinda new here, bought the tablet only few days ago and didn't play with it too much,
Have updated to the latest official version (4.1.2) and rooted.
I'm on N8013.
I saw the half-way leaked version of the kitkat on the general post but it says no word if it fits for anything else but N8000.
I don't really care for Kitkat but 4.1.2 is too old..
Any stable release / ROM with TW for a newer version? (I prefer stock)
kinda hard to tell since most of the posts are from 2012 and I have never been to any of them.. you probably know better than I do.
Thanks !
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Why dont u try Gnobo ROM or Offiical 4.4.2 Firmware Here
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Why dont u try Gnobo ROM or Offiical 4.4.2 Firmware Here
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Thank you.. what is more stable? the gnabo or the link you brought?
also could you please link gnabo too? I really can't find it
Advising Caution!!!!!!!!!!!!
mcjordan92 said:
Thank you.. what is more stable? the gnabo or the link you brought?
also could you please link gnabo too? I really can't find it
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Please tell us your ability and experience flashing roms? Using cwm/ twrp recovery. Do you know and understand adb? Have you ever flashed a device and know how to backup before doing so?
The above efforts MUST be something you need to understand Before you Flash anything.
The note tablet is to expensive to go flashing without knowing how to get back and recover if you have issues.
With the above said.. The issue with the stock 8000 rom and the leak is Bootloader . Changes your tablet info to look likes its a 8000 instead of 8xxx . In the past when the Stock firmware for your device is released you have been able to get back to the correct version for your device. BUT WELL BUT We or nobody can tell you for sure..
Again read read and think . Most important read the threads and post from people who have went back to 4.1 stock for there Device.
I know my post may sound Confusing. If so DO NOT FLASH your device.IF you know all of this already Sorry for the post. Just dont wanna see a help I'M
BRICKED POST from anyone
Good Luck..
ohh im on 4.1 rom Tweaked by me For my own use. I do not make roms for public use because i'm Not that smart or have time to help with issues .And most on here would not appreciate pink purple and floral UI.. Giggles.
erica_renee said:
Please tell us your ability and experience flashing roms? Using cwm/ twrp recovery. Do you know and understand adb? Have you ever flashed a device and know how to backup before doing so?
The above efforts MUST be something you need to understand Before you Flash anything.
The note tablet is to expensive to go flashing without knowing how to get back and recover if you have issues.
With the above said.. The issue with the stock 8000 rom and the leak is Bootloader . Changes your tablet info to look likes its a 8000 instead of 8xxx . In the past when the Stock firmware for your device is released you have been able to get back to the correct version for your device. BUT WELL BUT We or nobody can tell you for sure..
Again read read and think . Most important read the threads and post from people who have went back to 4.1 stock for there Device.
I know my post may sound Confusing. If so DO NOT FLASH your device.IF you know all of this already Sorry for the post. Just dont wanna see a help I'M
BRICKED POST from anyone
Good Luck..
ohh im on 4.1 rom Tweaked by me For my own use. I do not make roms for public use because i'm Not that smart or have time to help with issues .And most on here would not appreciate pink purple and floral UI.. Giggles.
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Very thanks for your warning!
I'm well based by switching ROMs in my last 2 phones and few others some times..
My new GN tablet is only rooted so this would be my first one..
I'm of course gonna nandroid backup and read the special instructions before switching.. the big reason for this long post thread is to save me precious time of trying each of any ROMs and testing it..
mcjordan92 said:
Very thanks for your warning!
I'm well based by switching ROMs in my last 2 phones and few others some times..
My new GN tablet is only rooted so this would be my first one..
I'm of course gonna nandroid backup and read the special instructions before switching.. the big reason for this long post thread is to save me precious time of trying each of any ROMs and testing it..
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I understand..
For me with the Note 10.1 and even my note 2 phone. I bought it for the s-pen capability. For me i have tried many roms and yes each has there own advantages. Not saying nothing bad about any of them. As i have took some small pieces from some Like frame work changes for my Slightly modified Stock. But I still think for the Note line .. Stock is the best solution for those who bought it for the s-pen and muli window Real work able tablet i think Stock or VERY Near is Best.
The Developers on the note devices have much more to deal with then many others due to the S-pen features and they are awesome at it .
Have installed the Gnabo ROM.. Looks cool.. Let's hope it won't makes me troubles
Sent from my Xperia Z.
mcjordan92 said:
Have installed the Gnabo ROM.. Looks cool.. Let's hope it won't make me troubles
Sent from my Xperia Z.
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Sent from my Xperia Z.
s-pen apps
mcjordan92 said:
Have installed the Gnabo ROM.. Looks cool.. Let's hope it won't makes me troubles
Sent from my Xperia Z.
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Hello mcjordan,
Do you made experiences with the new rom?
Especially: works the s-pen apps (s-note, handwriting)?
Regards
Dr.Sahnebacke said:
Hello mcjordan,
Do you made experiences with the new rom?
Especially: works the s-pen apps (s-note, handwriting)?
Regards
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I actually reflashed the stock kitkat version linked by some 1 here..
It seems to be more stable and has the default stock tw apps.. I actually prefer the old s note app over the new one so now I have both..
Also got back the defalt samaung keyboard which has the ability to handwriting recognation.. Gnabo didnt have it..
Sent from my Xperia Z.
Looking for all you suggestions, on a good and stable Rom for this device.
Also which is the best way to root, the CR auto Root, or the Toolkit way ?? what recoveries do you all recommend, and what version SU are you all on, just want to make sure I have all my bases covered. Thanks
DJB
Nobody, 85 views, wow makes me realize how old this device is already, LOL
OK, got the device rooted, just looking for stable Roms, any suggestions ??
DJB628 said:
OK, got the device rooted, just looking for stable Roms, any suggestions ??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/development/gnabo-rom-x-tab-s-feature-t3164779
(wifi fix is there for n8013)
and this kernel is superb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457996
Any other suggestion before I dive into this ?/
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Any other suggestion before I dive into this ?/
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Make a back up of your original ROM. Any other ROM for this tablet are dead or left on BETA. The marshmallow beta sucks, the lollipop rom is abandoned .. The ROM i posted is the latest KITKAT from Samsung and it works awesomely. If you install the Kernel its going to be even more butter smooth. Make sure you install the ROM , boot into the device, then you can reboot to the recover and install the wifi and kernel zips or else youll get a FC on menus. Good luck .
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Make a back up of your original ROM. Any other ROM for this tablet are dead or left on BETA. The marshmallow beta sucks, the lollipop rom is abandoned .. The ROM i posted is the latest KITKAT from Samsung and it works awesomely. If you install the Kernel its going to be even more butter smooth. Make sure you install the ROM , boot into the device, then you can reboot to the recover and install the wifi and kernel zips or else youll get a FC on menus. Good luck .
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OK thanks, but if one wanted to install a Lollipop Rom, which would be the most stable ?? I guess that is what I am asking.
DJB628 said:
OK thanks, but if one wanted to install a Lollipop Rom, which would be the most stable ?? I guess that is what I am asking.
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i stay away from non samsung roms.
use at your own risk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/development/rom-lollipop-t3081263
marshmallow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/development/rom-lollipop-t3269375
There is no best .
TAB Sensation is one i use .
I switched from Gnabo v8 to blishpop , worth to try
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I switched from Gnabo v8 to blishpop , worth to try
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I'll check it out, so far I have not installed anything, just waiting, there is no rush, maybe over the weekend, I'll give one of the Roms a go.
I did look at that Rom a week ago, and was not able to find the links for the Rom, and does not seem that the Dev is responding, if you have links to the Rom and Gapps, that would be great,
EDIT: was able to find a link from one of the members
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/orig-development/rom-omnirom-n8000-n801x-t2950440 : Omni is good too
zdravo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-1/orig-development/rom-omnirom-n8000-n801x-t2950440 : Omni is good too
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I will check this out also when I get back in town, so far I'm leaning towards BlissPop and STab, I don't really need the Samsung stuff, all I want is an updated version, with less crap on the Tablet, for what I use it for only.
Hello.
I have a Galaxy Note 3 currently running the Vodafone official Lollipop ROM. I find it very sluggish and would like to speed it up.
Would I see any benefit in rooting my phone and going to CM13 or an alternative Marshmallow ROM ?
I have 2 apps that I use constantly - IBM Verse and VPNCilla, both of which I use for work. Would both of these apps work
on a custom ROM, as this would be a deal breaker if they did not.
If all of the answers to the above were yes, where would be the best place to download the necessary ROM etc, as it has been a while since I have done this.
Many thanks,
Simon
simonpieman said:
Hello.
I have a Galaxy Note 3 currently running the Vodafone official Lollipop ROM. I find it very sluggish and would like to speed it up.
Would I see any benefit in rooting my phone and going to CM13 or an alternative Marshmallow ROM ?
I have 2 apps that I use constantly - IBM Verse and VPNCilla, both of which I use for work. Would both of these apps work
on a custom ROM, as this would be a deal breaker if they did not.
If all of the answers to the above were yes, where would be the best place to download the necessary ROM etc, as it has been a while since I have done this.
Many thanks,
Simon
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Yes marshmallow is more smooth relative to lollipop.
As for your apps it depends on the ROM, if the ROM you are using has a VPN bug it means you won't be able to use vpncilla properly ,just check known issues of the ROM before flashing to make sure
XDA is the good place to find development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13-0-t3238064 try any other if you don't like it ,lots of marshmallow based ROMs out there nowadays
[email protected] said:
Yes marshmallow is more smooth relative to lollipop.
As for your apps it depends on the ROM, if the ROM you are using has a VPN bug it means you won't be able to use vpncilla properly ,just check known issues of the ROM before flashing to make sure
XDA is the good place to find development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13-0-t3238064 try any other if you don't like it ,lots of marshmallow based ROMs out there nowadays
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Can you recommend an alternative ROM to the CM one, as it states on the link that was sent that there is a problem will Call Audio, which is a problem for me, as I use the phone to make calls.
Thanks.
simonpieman said:
Can you recommend an alternative ROM to the CM one, as it states on the link that was sent that there is a problem will Call Audio, which is a problem for me, as I use the phone to make calls.
Thanks.
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RR is the best I've tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-resurrection-lollipop-v5-3-4-t3030058