Hello all, and thank you very much for this very instructive forum.
I plan to buy a new mobile phone and am quite tempted by the new HTC Touch Diamond.
I've found several offers, but they do not each propose the exact same version of the phone. I've found (at least) 4 different versions : "UK", "NL", (on CloolBlue) "EU, English", "French" (on Expansys). Since the price and/or the delivery date differ, I'd like to know what are the other differences between these versions.
As their naming indicates it relates to the language (and maybe the country), but will the phone be different? As far as I can imagine, the difference might be:
- with the manuals (paper)
- hardware: ?
- software: the menu of the system
- software: the software keyboards (accented letters?!)
- software: the dictionaries (T9...)
- other?
Could anybody with experience of HTC products explain what are their habits in this area?
On another hand, as far as the differences are only software, in which extend is it possible to change it after (menus, keyboards, dictionnaries...)?
Thank you in advance.
one that is quad band would be nice.....
In my experience, only the software will differ. I mean the used language in standard apps and settings, menu's and dialogs. Things as T9 dictonaries will be almost certain available in many languages.
rondol1 said:
In my experience, only the software will differ. I mean the used language in standard apps and settings, menu's and dialogs. Things as T9 dictonaries will be almost certain available in many languages.
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OK, no problem for me having menus and dialogs in another language (I even prefer having them in English). But I'm more concerned by the SIP and the T9, since I'll type a lot of messages in French. Let's assume T9 are available in several languages. What about the SIP, does it support all languages (especially as far as the special characters (accented letters...) are concerned)?
And, if not, my next question is: How easy is it to change the SIP? (I mean replacing the native (Diamond) English keyboard by a native (Diamond) French keyboard.)
Since I'm completely new to HTC/WM, I don't even know if (and how) it's feasible.
Hello all!
I have the Fuze from AT&T, and I can't seem to find how to display asian webpages / music titles.
I don't want my whole phone to be changed, just the ability to show asian fonts instead of symbols! I tried adding chinese/korean/japanese fonts to Windows/Fonts folder, but that didn't help...
Anyone have a tutorial? I also checked htcwiki, but no one has the answer
Thanks a lot!
You need to link your fonts to the base font (Tahoma) by adding some registry entries. Instructions here:
http://leeblood.com/2008/02/16/windows-mobile-6-changing-the-system-font-adding-korean-support/
Keep in mind for MP3 tags (and possibly also other formats), the TF3d player (which uses WMP) also requires the ID3 tags be encoded in unicode in order to be read and displayed properly.
there is a file somewhere on this forum that allows you to view chinese, korean and thai. search for KoreChiThai
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Ok, I got my phone to display chinese/korean/japanese using korechithai.cab
but... now none of my keys are working!! Including the slideout keyboard, the home key, the back key, etc etc... It still lights up with i press the fn key or the shift/caps lock, but nothing shows up on the screen.
Also, the onscreen keyboard won't let me backspace, and letter recognizer is screwy too...
UGH... T.T HELP!!
Here is Chinese for you
Here I found something to display Chinese.
Works for sms and some system things (I currently got a Chinese Sim in my mobile). Didn't work for my Chinese e-mails though. Didn't test with websites... Found it as part of a Chinese translation program... But these are just the fonts not the program. You can find ChineseFont.cab on this page:
http://sites.google.com/site/wmdict/wm-dict-general/wm-dict-v20/wm-dict-v20-install-wm
Hope it works for you.
I didn't experience any problems. Again, this is not for input (I guess), just fonts to display.
Try CE-Star, it work, also you can write chinese too
CE-Star ... and what about Japanese, Chinese, Thai
Hi,
I tried CE-Star before and it wasn't really stable. Changed a lot of things on the phone such as fields and text sizes being incompatible. One being too large that is...
Yesterday I also installed the KorChiTha and the Japanese I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
However, I already had the cab I mentioned two posts ago and of course it froze my telephone needing a hard reset
Too eager and too impatient... anyway learned my lesson. Now I am looking for something like KorChiTha (which works fine for me by the way, I only use Chi and Tha) but with Chinese, Thai, and Japanese. This of course to run on my UK Raphael (well I bought it as HTC Touch Pro). These are the languages I need, I know a bit specific...
Does anyone know if there is this combination package somewhere? I don't want to crash everything again by combinging two different packages.
Thanks,
You can install fonts separately. Find three fonts that you like (Chinese traditional and/or simplified, Thai, and Japanese) and place them in your \Windows folder. Then add a reg key like so:
[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
Tahoma = (multi-line string value)
\Windows\msyh.ttf,MS Yahei
\Windows\cordiau.ttf,CordiaUPC
\Windows\msgothic.ttf,MS Gothic
Of course, substitute font filename and font name for whichever fonts you use. You may also need to create a similar key for "Courier New" if any of your apps use it as a base font and are also trying to display Chinese/Thai/Japanese.
CE Star problem and solution
Hey all,
I bought my TP in Hong Kong and it came with a version of CE-Start which I'm guessing was written for the Touch Pro. I say "written for" because:
1. I tried to install the version which came with my TP on my friends Diamond and it wouldn't install oh the Diamond.
2. Same friend that has a Diamond installed a version (not written for the Diamond)of CE Star and one day his Diamond's SMS messed up. From the TF3D screen, he could read the message but if he tried to open the SMS in Window's the page would just be white; no text no nothing and he couldn't write messages.
Googled the problem and found the answer:
Delete CE-Star and SMS can be read again in the Windows SMS app. He deleted CE-Star and what do you know, his SMS worked again.
Same thing happened to another friend that installed CE-Star on his older WM phone. I told him to delete CE-Star and his SMS worked again also.
Luckily so far, my phone has not experienced this problem; could be because of the version of CE-Star I have. Hopefully this won't happen to other CE-Star users but if you can't read SMS all of a sudden, CE-Star is probably why.
PS If you do get your TP in HK; the version of CE-Star on the Application CD doesn't work...I called HTC HK and the customer support lady said the wrong version was shipped with the TP. To get the correct version which will install on your TP, go to the HTC HK website and download it from the support section. I bought my TP and called HTC in October 2008, so maybe this version problem has been solved already.
?? Can't Read Chinese in the Calendar Notes Section
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
asdfjklqwerty said:
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
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Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
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Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
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Hey fhsieh,
Thanks for the advice; I didn't even think about that.
Tried changing the regional settings to Hong Kong but the calendar notes section still displayed "???" in place of the Chinese characters. Numbers and letters of the alphabet display properly though.
Any other changes you can think that might help?
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
Awsome, thanks for the help again. I'm backing up my phone now and will try these regedits after work tonight. Hope things go well; I'll report later.
fhsieh said:
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
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Made the registry edits but "???" still show up in the notes section when I open a calendar entry.
The good news is that I didn't have to hard reset my TP. Seems like the only changes which occured are a mixed bag of font changes related to Windows menus. The Programs, Settings, Start Menu, calendar and call history, and the soft keys are all different fonts now: the lettering is "thinner." Other Windows apps like email, SMS, and Contacts have no font changes. Also, it seems that all the lettering in TF3D is not affected as well
Thanks again for the help fhsieh.
One more question: how do you have Japanese (other language) input? Did you have to install a Japanese reading/writing program or by IME do you mean the same thing I use to type Chinese in Windows with my keyboard? If I can use IME (if WM6.1 comes with a language pack), can I just install it like I do on XP?
Japanese, Chinese, Thai combination wanted...
Just refering to my posts above... is it possible to have the combination:
Japanese
Chinese
Thai
Like in the solution for KorChiTha..???
Thanks
I use the standard Microsoft Japanese IME, which I installed through a CAB. I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to ask so forgive me for just trying to be clear:
IME is not a program but a collection of dll files (and other system files, which add language and keyboard support) and registry settings (which load those files). There are programs that can do input without any special IME, but the input only works inside the program itself and will not work anywhere else in the system. 3rd party IMEs like CE-Star are the same, only they use their own dll files/settings.
Adding IMEs to WM is similar to adding keyboards to XP, but it is not the exact same. With XP, you can simply install regional support and add keyboards by inserting your XP disc. Microsoft does not provide such a disc for WM. But the required dll files / reg settings are pre-installed in certain phones (regional ROMs), so some people have extracted them to be able to install them to other phones that don't have it pre-installed.
With Japanese it's easy, since there is only one charset, one regional setting, and one set of keyboards (unless you want to use 3rd party IMEs). But with Chinese it's hard because of traditional/simplified, numerous regions and settings, and all kinds of keyboards (pin-yin, jyutping, four-corner, etc). CE-Star is a good alternative because it's just one single "suite" that can be used on practically any WM phone. But for that reason there will be small problems like the "???" character issue.
The benefit of Microsoft's own IME is that it may be able to avoid those problems. The trick is to figure out exactly which combination of traditional/simplified, regional support, and keyboards you want and then finding a package that has it (or finding the files setting it up yourself). Moreover, you may still have the same problems because not all packages are set up for every kind of ROM -- so there may be all sorts of other settings you need to change in order to get it working.
Still, if you want to try Microsoft's Chinese IME, a good place to start is Asukal's e-China package. You can also search XDA for Chinese IME threads. I would also recommend talking to some of the cooks who have setup Chinese ROMs, they will know better than I exactly which files you need and what settings. One of the newer Chinese ROMs is Jack's Chinese/Japanese Xperia ROM.
Relevant links:
http://www.asukal.jp/English/LocalizeCABS.htm
http://www.asukal.jp/Source.htm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Follow the instructions and then re-boot.
Ok folks, this is a serious issue! (At least for me!)
I've used apps like custom locale & more locale to change the basic system language (aka menus).
But since Android is linux based there should be a way to actually pick the entire language package from one ROM (like original pt-br) and insert/replace en-us or chinese ones.
I've searched for an app to do so but to no avail.
Maybe this should be a Thread for "Android development" but since I have a Defy and the ROM I'm using (and liking more) is chinese I chose to place it here (Just to explain: I don't speak chinese and my docs are in portuguese).
Could some developer out there help with this issue?
of course there is a way. it's called apktool, well, a little patience too.
that's how we've got chinese on uk/tmo/pl releases.
but since you are asking the question, don't try doing it just now.
I want to know too.
on Linux, I know is need to config locale,
don't know android.
Hello guys. I was recently given a MT4G Slide to flash with any custom ROM (preferably ICS), with key criteria being stability and availability of various languages (not just keyboard, but change the whole OS). The phone will be used in Russia, therefore that's the language that needs to be added. I did look at most ROMS and no one really specifies which languages if any are in the ROM. I assume most slim ROMs don't have anything other then basic english/spanish. I wanted to ask if anyone with good stable ICS ROM can check if they have the Russian in the language selection menu. I understand it will be hard to come by as this is a US-only variant, but has hoping that many one of the cooks used stock google with multiple languages pre-installed.
Also, how hard would it be to remap the hardware keyboard or has anyone seen or knows where to purchase cyrilic keyboard for the device? Thanks for any info anyone can provide.
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Hello guys. I was recently given a MT4G Slide to flash with any custom ROM (preferably ICS), with key criteria being stability and availability of various languages (not just keyboard, but change the whole OS). The phone will be used in Russia, therefore that's the language that needs to be added. I did look at most ROMS and no one really specifies which languages if any are in the ROM. I assume most slim ROMs don't have anything other then basic english/spanish. I wanted to ask if anyone with good stable ICS ROM can check if they have the Russian in the language selection menu. I understand it will be hard to come by as this is a US-only variant, but has hoping that many one of the cooks used stock google with multiple languages pre-installed.
Also, how hard would it be to remap the hardware keyboard or has anyone seen or knows where to purchase cyrilic keyboard for the device? Thanks for any info anyone can provide.
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Have you looked at the morelocal2 app available in the Play Store?
Fuzi0719 said:
Have you looked at the morelocal2 app available in the Play Store?
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Thanks, didn't know it existed at all. Perfect, that solves the multi language part. Now, will need to do some searching on hardware keyboard remapping. Appreciate your help.
coolmen777 said:
Thanks, didn't know it existed at all. Perfect, that solves the multi language part. Now, will need to do some searching on hardware keyboard remapping. Appreciate your help.
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hate to be the negative nancy but this should be in the general section not the dev section
Blasphemous noob may the heavens rain down on thee with the vengeful hatred for that which we call ignorance and inability to follow forum rules!
The FBI has been alerted. Any second they will kick down your door and proceed to charge you with crimes that "you did not commit"
Yea we know, you're innocent.
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Blasphemous noob may the heavens rain down on thee with the vengeful hatred of that which we call ignorance and inability to follow forum rules!
The FBI has been alerted. Any second they will kick down your door and proceed to charge you with crimes that "you did not commit"
Yea we know, you're innocent.
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If dude is in Russia wouldn't it be the FSB? Those guys mean business...
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
coolmen777 said:
Thanks, didn't know it existed at all. Perfect, that solves the multi language part. Now, will need to do some searching on hardware keyboard remapping. Appreciate your help.
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Hi there!
I've already adopted the keyboard for russian locale. I'll provide you some instructions a bit later, when I'll be at my home computer. I use Russian Keyboard app with Virtuos Infinity beta1 mod, and I like it a lot - it supports custom layouts via xml, language toggle with sym button, and some other perks. Stay tuned
Sent from my myTouch 4G Slide using xda app-developers app
First of all, this is the wrong section for creating this kind of threads.
CyanogenMod (CM 9.1) supports all bunch of languages including Russian, Ukrainian, Arabic, many Asian languages and a lot more.
SKAm69, CM out-of-the-box does not support localization of the hardware keyboard - a third party app is needed for that. As for UI translation, I personally prefer English UI anyway.
So... here we go.
The archive includes: keychars/keylayouts - put it to corresponding folder in /system/usr and fix permissions (root is a must!), xml file for RuKeyboard and xls table to understand which letter goes where. Everything is made and tested on an ICS rom.
I usually switch languages with single press of the sym button, shift+sym does the symbol selection popup, alt+sym gives the smiles popup window.
www./com button is mapped as a tab, alt+www. gives a "www." input, shift+www. calls web popup window.
Every keymap can be customized using these files - just lurk a little bit and make a try.