Hi all,
I'm having a terrible problem with the Google Search App/Google Now, it's killing my battery. Keep in mind I'm not talking about Google Play Services, I've found plenty of threads talking about battery drain from that but not much concerning the Google Search App drain. Here's some screenies of what I'm talking about:
I tried posting screenies, but I guess I don't have enough posts yet.... So I'll just try to summarize. Basically the Google Search App is reporting using 80% of my battery and when I click on it it tells me that GPS has been on for one day and 12 hours.
So it looks to me like the problem drainage problem is due to the app is keeping the GPS on all the time. While I can go into Cyanogen Mod's privacy guard settings and disable GPS for the app, I would prefer not to do that because A. I like the location pop ups that Google Now provides and B. When I do this there's an annoying persistent notification at the top telling me that the Google Search App can't access location.
That said, does anyone have any suggestions as to how this can be fixed/alleviated? I don't really understand why the app needs GPS all the time, shouldn't it just ping the location every once and a while?
If it helps, I'm on HTC ONE m7, Cyanogen Mod/Android 4.4.2
p.s. Feel free to switch the location of this thread, I wasn't really sure where to put it.
Jaeryl said:
Hi all,
I'm having a terrible problem with the Google Search App/Google Now, it's killing my battery. Keep in mind I'm not talking about Google Play Services, I've found plenty of threads talking about battery drain from that but not much concerning the Google Search App drain. Here's some screenies of what I'm talking about:
I tried posting screenies, but I guess I don't have enough posts yet.... So I'll just try to summarize. Basically the Google Search App is reporting using 80% of my battery and when I click on it it tells me that GPS has been on for one day and 12 hours.
So it looks to me like the problem drainage problem is due to the app is keeping the GPS on all the time. While I can go into Cyanogen Mod's privacy guard settings and disable GPS for the app, I would prefer not to do that because A. I like the location pop ups that Google Now provides and B. When I do this there's an annoying persistent notification at the top telling me that the Google Search App can't access location.
That said, does anyone have any suggestions as to how this can be fixed/alleviated? I don't really understand why the app needs GPS all the time, shouldn't it just ping the location every once and a while?
If it helps, I'm on HTC ONE m7, Cyanogen Mod/Android 4.4.2
p.s. Feel free to switch the location of this thread, I wasn't really sure where to put it.
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is it a official cyanogenmod rom? if so 4.4.2 is a little old, you might want to update it, you don't have to wipe your data just flash the update.
Jaeryl said:
Hi all,
I'm having a terrible problem with the Google Search App/Google Now, it's killing my battery. Keep in mind I'm not talking about Google Play Services, I've found plenty of threads talking about battery drain from that but not much concerning the Google Search App drain. Here's some screenies of what I'm talking about:
I tried posting screenies, but I guess I don't have enough posts yet.... So I'll just try to summarize. Basically the Google Search App is reporting using 80% of my battery and when I click on it it tells me that GPS has been on for one day and 12 hours.
So it looks to me like the problem drainage problem is due to the app is keeping the GPS on all the time. While I can go into Cyanogen Mod's privacy guard settings and disable GPS for the app, I would prefer not to do that because A. I like the location pop ups that Google Now provides and B. When I do this there's an annoying persistent notification at the top telling me that the Google Search App can't access location.
That said, does anyone have any suggestions as to how this can be fixed/alleviated? I don't really understand why the app needs GPS all the time, shouldn't it just ping the location every once and a while?
If it helps, I'm on HTC ONE m7, Cyanogen Mod/Android 4.4.2
p.s. Feel free to switch the location of this thread, I wasn't really sure where to put it.
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Don't worry about the thread location, "Questions and Answers" is the perfect spot.
I've done some research on this topic myself, and it appears that this specific app does actually need GPS on all the time, because every time you search it actually searches Maps before it realizes that your search isn't for a location.
Strange, I know.
So basically, unless you're willing to give up GPS data for your Google Search App, you're going to have to deal with the battery drain.
Pro Tip! If the Cyanogen Mod "turn off GPS" function doesn't work properly (it's been known to be a bit problematic), try using avast! Mobile Security and Antivirus. This app does what Cyanogen is supposed to, but generally does it better and more reliably.
Hope this helps - and if it does, please hit the
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I've done some research on this topic myself, and it appears that this specific app does]/i] actually need GPS on all the time, because every time you search it actually searches Maps before it realizes that your search isn't for a location.
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I was afraid someone might say this... *sigh*
Well thanks for the suggestions, I'll try them out and if I get any positive results from the norm I'll post them.
EDIT: Something that's been helping me is that I made a tasker profile where when the screen is turned off it turns off the GPS with the help of the secure settings app plugin.
It does hinder some of the functionality of google now, but keeps a lot of it intact.
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Hey,
I have a Fido RHD on the latest official ROM (no root or unlock). I have noticed over the past few weeks that the battery life has been a lot worse, but I can't think of any particular app that may be causing it. Strangely, Android OS is using a lot of CPU time and also sending data!
Things I have tried to do:
Stopped all the optiona "location services" for Google apps (e.g. Google Now)
Installed Snapdragon Battery Guru (but it is currently in learning mode)
Uninstalled all unneccessary apps
How can I find out what is hammering the "Android OS" process, and why it is keeping the phone awake? Is there a more advanced battery stats app that could help with this?
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Hello Suman,
I have a similiar issue here. Android OS is not heading my battery stats, but it held the phone awake for a reasonably long time. You should try downloading BetterBatteryStats (the apk is available here in xda dev for free, but the developer did a nice work on it and the app is very useful, so I think you should support the developer if you don't mind). For a better understand of what's going on open BBS and set a custom ref before you go to sleep. Save the dump immediatly after you wake up. Post it here. Anyone that understand partial wakelocks will be able to give you a better support.
I have seen another guy here with a similar issue, but still unresolved. Also, I still have the problem, but my ROM is different (Vivo - Jelly Bean).
If you have received the update recently via OTA, you can try wiping data. Not sure if will help, but wiping data after receiving major updates is always a good and recommended practice.
Also, if you have instant upload on, turn it off. A bug seems to cause the instant upload to try syncing every minute so you'll have high times of SyncLoopWakelock keeping the phone awake most of the time. It happened to me. If a cloud backup of your photos is very necessary as it's to me I recommend Camera Uploads feature on the Dropbox app.
Let me know if something helps!
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Hey,
I have a Fido RHD on the latest official ROM (no root or unlock). I have noticed over the past few weeks that the battery life has been a lot worse, but I can't think of any particular app that may be causing it. Strangely, Android OS is using a lot of CPU time and also sending data!
Things I have tried to do:
Stopped all the optiona "location services" for Google apps (e.g. Google Now)
Installed Snapdragon Battery Guru (but it is currently in learning mode)
Uninstalled all unneccessary apps
How can I find out what is hammering the "Android OS" process, and why it is keeping the phone awake? Is there a more advanced battery stats app that could help with this?
Thanks,
Suman
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Hello Suman,
I have a similiar issue here. Android OS is not heading my battery stats, but it held the phone awake for a reasonably long time. You should try downloading BetterBatteryStats (the apk is available here in xda dev for free, but the developer did a nice work on it and the app is very useful, so I think you should support the developer if you don't mind). For a better understand of what's going on open BBS and set a custom ref before you go to sleep. Save the dump immediatly after you wake up. Post it here. Anyone that understand partial wakelocks will be able to give you a better support.
I have seen another guy here with a similar issue, but still unresolved. Also, I still have the problem, but my ROM is different (Vivo - Jelly Bean).
If you have received the update recently via OTA, you can try wiping data. Not sure if will help, but wiping data after receiving major updates is always a good and recommended practice.
Also, if you have instant upload on, turn it off. A bug seems to cause the instant upload to try syncing every minute so you'll have high times of SyncLoopWakelock keeping the phone awake most of the time. It happened to me. If a cloud backup of your photos is very necessary as it's to me I recommend Camera Uploads feature on the Dropbox app.
Let me know if something helps!
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Ok, I will give BBS a go, thanks for the recommendation.
I did a factory reset as soon as I received the JB OTA (I always do this after any major software update). The Android OS problem did not start right after the update - it is a fairly recent problem.
I don't have Google+ camera upload turned on (but I do have Dropbox camera upload, as you suggested).
Thanks,
Su
Hey,
Bit of a noob question I think... how exactly do I "use" BetterBatteryStats. I'm not sure how to set it up so it measures what I want it to.
This is what a full day's drain from 100% to nearly empty looks like at the moment:
Can anyone shed some light on my mystery battery thief please??!
Cheers,
Su
Hello guys, so i think you all have had that Google Service problem in your S4 eating up to 40% battery?
Well i have fix for it
Mine runs on original rom without root!!
(I have disabled Samsung push service aswell)
Proof that it is fixed!
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1. step go to location services on Settings!
Disable all of them
2. step Disable these applications, if you do not use any!
3. step go to "google settings"
And search location
and disable these
Enjoy longer battery life
(And wow those picture seems too huge o.o)
That's not a fix is a workaround ... And it has been said multiple times already
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That's not a fix is a workaround ... And it has been said multiple times already
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Tell me the threads please.
Wow what a fix! I have a better one -
1. put phone in garbage
2. buy a nokia 3100
OR:
put phone on flight mode and use it ONLY to tell time.
And on a more serious note:
C'mon dude, are you serious?.. a "fix" means you don't loose any functionality of the device, what you did there was disabling almost every good and important feature that in the first place is the reason people buy these phones, so disabling them to get around a bug which drains the battery?.. that's.. well I don't need to say it.
And for the fix that does work - turn off "Location reporting" only - from my experience this will not make you loose any location based functionality as I use every thing that has to do with locations, Google can still tell where I am, and Google now still tells me time to work\home, flight times, packages dispatched, weather updates etc. turning "location reporting" off fixed the Google services battery drain issue I had, and I still turn it on from time to time to see if Google had fixed this, last time I checked it was still draining the battery.
i wanna know how fix the high android os drain
skivnit said:
i wanna know how fix the high android os drain
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Hi.
U just have to follow the OP.
That will fix it.
omricn said:
Wow what a fix! I have a better one -
1. put phone in garbage
2. buy a nokia 3100
OR:
put phone on flight mode and use it ONLY to tell time.
And on a more serious note:
C'mon dude, are you serious?.. a "fix" means you don't loose any functionality of the device, what you did there was disabling almost every good and important feature that in the first place is the reason people buy these phones, so disabling them to get around a bug which drains the battery?.. that's.. well I don't need to say it.
And for the fix that does work - turn off "Location reporting" only - from my experience this will not make you loose any location based functionality as I use every thing that has to do with locations, Google can still tell where I am, and Google now still tells me time to work\home, flight times, packages dispatched, weather updates etc. turning "location reporting" off fixed the Google services battery drain issue I had, and I still turn it on from time to time to see if Google had fixed this, last time I checked it was still draining the battery.
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I think the guide is not for u, mate.
But this guide is for people who wants to prolong the battery life.
Location reporting is one of the main battery factor on an android device.
I personally don't use it as I don't want any apps (facebook, etc) to do this and I have disable more google-related things than what the OP has posted.
Are you for real or is this just some kind of joke?
Firstly, this fix isn't a fix, its just turning some things off.
Secondly, this information has been around for a long time now and is relevant to any Android phone, not just the S4.
And no, I am not going to post links to the hundreds of threads and posts on the many websites and forums out there who have already posted this before you and with more detailed information.
Seriously, why have you bothered posting this rubbish?
The most suitble statement is the tip for prolong the battery life. Tks OP for yr sharing.
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Tell me the threads please.
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Here is magic trick, this time I will show you, but please do not populate it, as it is VERY confidential: The secret tool to find the threads you want
Google turns up tons of results for this, as does the search... Sorry the top secret search on this forum.
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So, every time I use the GPS, it doesn't turn off even after I turn it off in the settings. I'd use GPS on a route and I'd turn off Google Maps, I've tried force closing Google Maps, turning off and on the Location, and many other things, but nothing has worked. The only thing I can do is restart the phone, but this is annoying to do each time, Here are some pictures :
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This happens when I forget to restart the phone right away.
custom rom? and maybe a bit more info about your general setup. are you using a widget to tirn it ofg or are going to the main phone settings, gps to turn it off?
Stock, rooted, custom recovery. I use the Power Toggles to turn it on and off usually, but recently I have been going through Settings, Location to make sure it's all turned completely off, not just the GPS, but also all location. Then I look back at the Battery and see that the GPS time goes up a few seconds constantly, despite location being completely turned off and no Google Maps or anything else running in the background.
no maps running in the background? its taking 59% of the battery! your issue is probably google maps, not gps. look at your maps settings, maybe something. also, reboot. ive seen maps act like this before, for many. do you use greenify? something to look at as well.
simms22 said:
no maps running in the background? its taking 59% of the battery! your issue is probably google maps, not gps. look at your maps settings, maybe something. also, reboot. ive seen maps act like this before, for many. do you use greenify? something to look at as well.
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I killed it directly.
yahoowizard said:
I killed it directly.
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that too
but really you should check out greenify, it a good app to keep your other apps from running whenever they feel like it.
simms22 said:
that too
but really you should check out greenify, it a good app to keep your other apps from running whenever they feel like it.
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Yup! ^^^
Use titanium backup to convert maps to a user app, then greenify it.
Update: This problem occurs with Waze as well. I force closed it, and Greenify'd it, and I still see the "GPS On" time continue to go up. I feel the GPS might be turned off but it still shows a big battery drain coming from Waze.
yahoowizard said:
Update: This problem occurs with Waze as well. I force closed it, and Greenify'd it, and I still see the "GPS On" time continue to go up. I feel the GPS might be turned off but it still shows a big battery drain coming from Waze.
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Turn off location services completely. Should stop it. If location is on....many apps could be using it. Maybe you have a rogue app spamming location services.
But maps and Waze will drop the battery fast while in use. After they hibernate... Its other apps using location.
kj2112 said:
Turn off location services completely. Should stop it. If location is on....many apps could be using it. Maybe you have a rogue app spamming location services.
But maps and Waze will drop the battery fast while in use. After they hibernate... Its other apps using location.
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I did that. Turned off all kinds of Location in the Settings Menu, no Wifi, no network tracking, just no Location. The GPS On time still goes on, so that's what's perplexing me. Perhaps I need to factory reset to see what's up.
yahoowizard said:
I did that. Turned off all kinds of Location in the Settings Menu, no Wifi, no network tracking, just no Location. The GPS On time still goes on, so that's what's perplexing me. Perhaps I need to factory reset to see what's up.
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Maybe. I've never heard of GPS running when location services is off. There's only one place to turn off location in settings, and if it off, it should be off. Strange.
if you go to location settings, press google location reporting, do you have google location reporting and location history off as well?
kj2112 said:
Turn off location services completely. Should stop it. If location is on....many apps could be using it. Maybe you have a rogue app spamming location services.
But maps and Waze will drop the battery fast while in use. After they hibernate... Its other apps using location.
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if you go to location settings, press google location reporting, do you have google location reporting and location history off as well?
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Yup.
I recently put up a new app on Google Play called CellCB and thought I would post here to try and get some feedback on it. CellCB is an app that is meant to behave just like a CB radio in that it will allow you to talk with people within range of your phone. Unlike a traditional CB radio it does not operate on the 27 MHz band, so sorry to the folks who were hoping to use it as an alternative to the bulky unit they may have installed in their car or truck. What it actually does is use the GPS system on your phone to figure out what other CellCB users are in range on your phone and list/broadcast to them over the Internet. Right now it is set to a range of 4 miles but I may make this more/less in the future depending on usage.
CellCB is meant to be simple to use and closely simulate the behavior of a CB radio as much as possible:
Launch the app - Like turning a CB radio on it will immediately start listening for people broadcasting nearby
Hold the "Transmit" button - Like holding down the button on a handset it will broadcast your voice to people nearby
I hope to implement other features such as multiple channel selection, probably 40 like CB radios have, as well as some extras like making recordings and such. For the time being I just have the basic functionality with a single channel to see what people think and understand how well the core of it works. My goal is to keep things as simple as possible and therefore there is no type of registration needed before using it and no special configuration is needed like other apps that perform walkie talkie functionality over wifi or bluetooth.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.binaryroad.cellcb
Feel free to let me know if you have any questions/comments. Since this is a pretty new app you will probably need to find someone else to use it with, otherwise the chances of hearing someone broadcasting nearby your position at random are quite low.
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Hello, it says " waiting for GPS location" for about 10min now.
ENABLED GPS, Google location service, GPS Satellites, Location & Google search
Device: Alcatel OT Idol 6030x Stock ROM 4.1.1 JB Rooted
Mine is saying that failed to connect to cb server
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pcwalker said:
Hello, it says " waiting for GPS location" for about 10min now.
ENABLED GPS, Google location service, GPS Satellites, Location & Google search
Device: Alcatel OT Idol 6030x Stock ROM 4.1.1 JB Rooted
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If you go into Google Maps does it give you a fix on your location? Were there any messages about permission for location services?
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Mine is saying that failed to connect to cb server
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Looks like the server crashed. I restarted it so give it another try. Looks like I still have some bugs to work out. I appreciate the help in giving it a try.
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If you go into Google Maps does it give you a fix on your location? Were there any messages about permission for location services?
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it does not fix it too on google maps. no messages about permission something too. is the problem on my end?
pcwalker said:
it does not fix it too on google maps. no messages about permission something too. is the problem on my end?
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If Google Maps doesn't give your position either then it sounds like a problem with your phone in general and not CellCB. If your aren't able to get your location on Google Maps after a while you might want to contact the phone manufacturer about getting GPS working on your phone.
Thanks for everyone who has been using this so far. I found a bug that would happen with people who were on flaky connections and have fixed it now. Hopefully that was it and things should run smoothly now.
I have made a couple more fixes to deal with some issues for how location updates are done for certain phones. If anyone encounters any trouble with the current system, please let me know.
Nice idea.
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* High battery use as reported by Android.
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I'm happy with the battery performance, but only when the screen is on. When I use the phone mostly with the screen on, I get good SOT(6-9 hours), but with the screen off, the battery consumption is terrible. How can I pull this down?
Probably a cloud app; try temporarily disabling Google play Services, Google backup is a dependency as is Playstore, Gmail. Some apps also need it to run. I enable it once or twice a day. Disabled saves 1+%@hr.
Trashware social media apps like fb, WhatsApp etc shouldn't be installed. It all adds up.
6 hours SOT with a 5002 mAh battery isn't good, 9 hrs is fair to poor. That said all Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
Unfortunately, because of SD 8 gen 1 limitations (probably worse on Exynos variant), about 6-7 hours SOT is best you're going to get on the S22 ultra.
Try the following guide here & see if it helps your battery life.
I have the Exynos version. My phone has a SOT of about 10 to 12 hours. Rooted and bebloated. I do have the brightness very low though.
Android 13.
OneUI 5.
Latest.
Lightly debloated.
That's interesting. I guess depends on what apps the phone is using during SOT.......
Mind sharing your battery usage breakdown screenshot?
TheKaptan23 said:
Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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Real as it gets. All social media apps should never be installed. Many should even be logged on to. WhatsApp track record is stunningly bad.
Lots of users means its got a huge bullseye on it even if they try to secure it, it will hacked again like the sun rises in the morning... for sure. Meanwhile phishing scams run under the radar and count on you screwing up. And many do.
You got to ask yourself one question,
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Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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No really. The problem is that all the apps developed by Meta (Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp) are power hogs. Meta does not care if it chews up battery. The primary reason is that Meta is shoving ads in your face. Even when your screen is off, those apps are running in the background. Meta is not the only offender. There are plenty of other app developers that do the same thing.
Also, there are different "flavors" of Android. Each OEM implements it differently (even within the OEMs). This makes it less cost effective to customize their apps for each OEM. There is only one flavor of iOS and iPadOS, so it is much easier to tweak it for iPhones and iPads than it is for Android devices.
I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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It doesn't effect any notifications for me that I use except Gmail. Most my apps run without it. I tend to shun those that do.
Some of the Samsung apps take the place of Google apps, no need to run both.
If killing Google play Services helps at night it's likely Google backup Transport running.
Hello, I have something to ask about. I need to know if there is any ability to store a system application variables usin adb. Imagine that I want to open my settings app and do something mabye a confirmation dialog will be shown in order to say something such as alert for something supposed that I did click on OK, i the normal case this alert will never be shown even if you clear the settings app data or clear the cash, is there any way to use adb to store the settings app data before opening it the if anything as the previous senario happened I can restore the settings app to the moment before clicking on the OK button or even before this alert has shown
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I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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Many apps that "need" Google play Services are Playstore pay apps. This can be circumvented by first allowing the app to activate, then firewall blocking their internet connection. Firewall block Playstore as well although it should be disabled except when needed.
If an app doesn't need internet access to function it should be firewall blocked anyway.