So, every time I use the GPS, it doesn't turn off even after I turn it off in the settings. I'd use GPS on a route and I'd turn off Google Maps, I've tried force closing Google Maps, turning off and on the Location, and many other things, but nothing has worked. The only thing I can do is restart the phone, but this is annoying to do each time, Here are some pictures :
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This happens when I forget to restart the phone right away.
custom rom? and maybe a bit more info about your general setup. are you using a widget to tirn it ofg or are going to the main phone settings, gps to turn it off?
Stock, rooted, custom recovery. I use the Power Toggles to turn it on and off usually, but recently I have been going through Settings, Location to make sure it's all turned completely off, not just the GPS, but also all location. Then I look back at the Battery and see that the GPS time goes up a few seconds constantly, despite location being completely turned off and no Google Maps or anything else running in the background.
no maps running in the background? its taking 59% of the battery! your issue is probably google maps, not gps. look at your maps settings, maybe something. also, reboot. ive seen maps act like this before, for many. do you use greenify? something to look at as well.
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no maps running in the background? its taking 59% of the battery! your issue is probably google maps, not gps. look at your maps settings, maybe something. also, reboot. ive seen maps act like this before, for many. do you use greenify? something to look at as well.
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I killed it directly.
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I killed it directly.
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that too
but really you should check out greenify, it a good app to keep your other apps from running whenever they feel like it.
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that too
but really you should check out greenify, it a good app to keep your other apps from running whenever they feel like it.
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Yup! ^^^
Use titanium backup to convert maps to a user app, then greenify it.
Update: This problem occurs with Waze as well. I force closed it, and Greenify'd it, and I still see the "GPS On" time continue to go up. I feel the GPS might be turned off but it still shows a big battery drain coming from Waze.
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Update: This problem occurs with Waze as well. I force closed it, and Greenify'd it, and I still see the "GPS On" time continue to go up. I feel the GPS might be turned off but it still shows a big battery drain coming from Waze.
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Turn off location services completely. Should stop it. If location is on....many apps could be using it. Maybe you have a rogue app spamming location services.
But maps and Waze will drop the battery fast while in use. After they hibernate... Its other apps using location.
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Turn off location services completely. Should stop it. If location is on....many apps could be using it. Maybe you have a rogue app spamming location services.
But maps and Waze will drop the battery fast while in use. After they hibernate... Its other apps using location.
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I did that. Turned off all kinds of Location in the Settings Menu, no Wifi, no network tracking, just no Location. The GPS On time still goes on, so that's what's perplexing me. Perhaps I need to factory reset to see what's up.
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I did that. Turned off all kinds of Location in the Settings Menu, no Wifi, no network tracking, just no Location. The GPS On time still goes on, so that's what's perplexing me. Perhaps I need to factory reset to see what's up.
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Maybe. I've never heard of GPS running when location services is off. There's only one place to turn off location in settings, and if it off, it should be off. Strange.
if you go to location settings, press google location reporting, do you have google location reporting and location history off as well?
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Turn off location services completely. Should stop it. If location is on....many apps could be using it. Maybe you have a rogue app spamming location services.
But maps and Waze will drop the battery fast while in use. After they hibernate... Its other apps using location.
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if you go to location settings, press google location reporting, do you have google location reporting and location history off as well?
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This is a pretty general question, but I couldn't find much on google about this. According to the task killers on the market, an app won't be able to stop a service like exchange or maps automatically (it can only kill the UI app). However, the exchange and map services have lots of alarms associated which increase my battery drain by at least a full %/hour. If I kill the services manually every time I use one of these apps then everything is fine. Does anyone have insight into whether an app or script called from tasker can accomplish this automatically?
FYI: I'm using the CM9 unofficial ROM.
You do not need to kill tasks. The system automatically purges non system apps. Just leave them be and always exit an app using the back button
"App killers" aren't recommended past Froyo and can even harm performance.
Under ICS, you can "Disable" many apps using the Manage apps off the main-screen menu. Titanium Backup can also "freeze" apps.
Many of the Google services get pretty "greedy" depending on your settings. That would be a good place to start for "core" services like those.
If that doesn't work, there is the sledgehammer approach of removing the apk from /system/app -- If you do that, watch your logcat to provide some confidence that you haven't disabled something that you need for another app to work.
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You do not need to kill tasks. The system automatically purges non system apps. Just leave them be and always exit an app using the back button
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
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"App killers" aren't recommended past Froyo and can even harm performance.
Under ICS, you can "Disable" many apps using the Manage apps off the main-screen menu. Titanium Backup can also "freeze" apps.
Many of the Google services get pretty "greedy" depending on your settings. That would be a good place to start for "core" services like those.
If that doesn't work, there is the sledgehammer approach of removing the apk from /system/app -- If you do that, watch your logcat to provide some confidence that you haven't disabled something that you need for another app to work.
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Anyway I'm not trying to kill the "apps" themselves. They can sit paused in memory. I want to end their back-end services without uninstalling the app. The exchange service, like I said, will drain the battery with its unnecessary alarms even if I disable sync and turn the sync frequency to "never" and uncheck all the boxes when deciding what to sync. Google screwed up majorly with exchange, but when I kill the service manually using the method you describe then everything is fine and I can still boot up the app like normal to check my email manually. I just want to automate killing the service.
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
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Unrelated to your OP but related to your post - on CM9 based ROM's - if you go into Settings > Developer Options - scroll to the bottom and select kill app back button. It works well.
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Le sigh.. didn't even read my post. Also I'm pretty sure the back button thing is a myth.
Anyway I'm not trying to kill the "apps" themselves. They can sit paused in memory. I want to end their back-end services without uninstalling the app. The exchange service, like I said, will drain the battery with its unnecessary alarms even if I disable sync and turn the sync frequency to "never" and uncheck all the boxes when deciding what to sync. Google screwed up majorly with exchange, but when I kill the service manually using the method you describe then everything is fine and I can still boot up the app like normal to check my email manually. I just want to automate killing the service.
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I am also interested in a solution to this. I was hoping to find a widget that displays services, daemons or whatever you wanna call them, in plain text on my home screen, similar to rainmeter for windows. Then you just tap it to manage them. There has to be something similar around.
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I'm having an issue where apps which require location seemingly stay awake after being greenified and killed from the recent apps. In my battery stats, it shows the gps use details going up continuously, while the CPU usage does does not.
I am running the stock ROM and trinity kernel.
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I'm having an issue where apps which require location seemingly stay awake after being greenified and killed from the recent apps. In my battery stats, it shows the gps use details going up continuously, while the CPU usage does does not.
I am running the stock ROM and trinity kernel.
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I don't see the little GPS peg on the screen that would indicate GPS is being used. Is your battery dropping fast? It's either a bug in the display, or a bug in the GPS code.
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I don't see the little GPS peg on the screen that would indicate GPS is being used. Is your battery dropping fast? It's either a bug in the display, or a bug in the GPS code.
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That is correct, and why I am baffled. GPS is turned off. Battery life seems fine from what I am seeing.
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That is correct, and why I am baffled. GPS is turned off. Battery life seems fine from what I am seeing.
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Is the issue reproducible?
go to your phones main settings, location.. what mode is it in? high accuracy, battery saving, or device only? also is googles location reporting on or off?
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That is correct, and why I am baffled. GPS is turned off. Battery life seems fine from what I am seeing.
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It happened with me also some days back, location services were completely off but google services kept gps on, while I didn't enable it and I was able to track down the culprit, for me it was google play services. Restart fixed it for me.
I think this is another bug because same thing happened with a person who I know and for him it was facebook and for you its speedtest app.
I've noticed the service GoogleLocationManager tries to keep itself running at all times, even with locations completely disabled.
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Hi, i have the same problem. Few days ago i found out that may GPS si running background even if my google location, google maps are off. I put phone into airplane mode but GPS was still running.
My nexus 5 is stock and unrooted. If i turn off/on GPS stop running.
Has anyone any solution about this problem?it seems it has to be some bug draining my battery, but if i dont root nexus i wont know wick app is draining battery?
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go to your phones main settings, location.. what mode is it in? high accuracy, battery saving, or device only? also is googles location reporting on or off?
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^^^^^ this.
Set it to battery saving. A majority of the apps do not need high accuracy (active) GPS. The only time I have to enable High accuracy active GPS is when using maps/navigation (a tasker profile takes care of that for me - enable high accuracy when maps is launched, and switch to battery saving when I exit maps). Most of the other apps work just fine with battery saving location settings.
I got this issue today ( stock rooted)
After using the map and GPS for many hours, the GPS was awake even after force close the map app, and setting location off.
Rebooting the phone is the fix.
Hi all,
I'm having a terrible problem with the Google Search App/Google Now, it's killing my battery. Keep in mind I'm not talking about Google Play Services, I've found plenty of threads talking about battery drain from that but not much concerning the Google Search App drain. Here's some screenies of what I'm talking about:
I tried posting screenies, but I guess I don't have enough posts yet.... So I'll just try to summarize. Basically the Google Search App is reporting using 80% of my battery and when I click on it it tells me that GPS has been on for one day and 12 hours.
So it looks to me like the problem drainage problem is due to the app is keeping the GPS on all the time. While I can go into Cyanogen Mod's privacy guard settings and disable GPS for the app, I would prefer not to do that because A. I like the location pop ups that Google Now provides and B. When I do this there's an annoying persistent notification at the top telling me that the Google Search App can't access location.
That said, does anyone have any suggestions as to how this can be fixed/alleviated? I don't really understand why the app needs GPS all the time, shouldn't it just ping the location every once and a while?
If it helps, I'm on HTC ONE m7, Cyanogen Mod/Android 4.4.2
p.s. Feel free to switch the location of this thread, I wasn't really sure where to put it.
Jaeryl said:
Hi all,
I'm having a terrible problem with the Google Search App/Google Now, it's killing my battery. Keep in mind I'm not talking about Google Play Services, I've found plenty of threads talking about battery drain from that but not much concerning the Google Search App drain. Here's some screenies of what I'm talking about:
I tried posting screenies, but I guess I don't have enough posts yet.... So I'll just try to summarize. Basically the Google Search App is reporting using 80% of my battery and when I click on it it tells me that GPS has been on for one day and 12 hours.
So it looks to me like the problem drainage problem is due to the app is keeping the GPS on all the time. While I can go into Cyanogen Mod's privacy guard settings and disable GPS for the app, I would prefer not to do that because A. I like the location pop ups that Google Now provides and B. When I do this there's an annoying persistent notification at the top telling me that the Google Search App can't access location.
That said, does anyone have any suggestions as to how this can be fixed/alleviated? I don't really understand why the app needs GPS all the time, shouldn't it just ping the location every once and a while?
If it helps, I'm on HTC ONE m7, Cyanogen Mod/Android 4.4.2
p.s. Feel free to switch the location of this thread, I wasn't really sure where to put it.
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is it a official cyanogenmod rom? if so 4.4.2 is a little old, you might want to update it, you don't have to wipe your data just flash the update.
Jaeryl said:
Hi all,
I'm having a terrible problem with the Google Search App/Google Now, it's killing my battery. Keep in mind I'm not talking about Google Play Services, I've found plenty of threads talking about battery drain from that but not much concerning the Google Search App drain. Here's some screenies of what I'm talking about:
I tried posting screenies, but I guess I don't have enough posts yet.... So I'll just try to summarize. Basically the Google Search App is reporting using 80% of my battery and when I click on it it tells me that GPS has been on for one day and 12 hours.
So it looks to me like the problem drainage problem is due to the app is keeping the GPS on all the time. While I can go into Cyanogen Mod's privacy guard settings and disable GPS for the app, I would prefer not to do that because A. I like the location pop ups that Google Now provides and B. When I do this there's an annoying persistent notification at the top telling me that the Google Search App can't access location.
That said, does anyone have any suggestions as to how this can be fixed/alleviated? I don't really understand why the app needs GPS all the time, shouldn't it just ping the location every once and a while?
If it helps, I'm on HTC ONE m7, Cyanogen Mod/Android 4.4.2
p.s. Feel free to switch the location of this thread, I wasn't really sure where to put it.
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Don't worry about the thread location, "Questions and Answers" is the perfect spot.
I've done some research on this topic myself, and it appears that this specific app does actually need GPS on all the time, because every time you search it actually searches Maps before it realizes that your search isn't for a location.
Strange, I know.
So basically, unless you're willing to give up GPS data for your Google Search App, you're going to have to deal with the battery drain.
Pro Tip! If the Cyanogen Mod "turn off GPS" function doesn't work properly (it's been known to be a bit problematic), try using avast! Mobile Security and Antivirus. This app does what Cyanogen is supposed to, but generally does it better and more reliably.
Hope this helps - and if it does, please hit the
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I've done some research on this topic myself, and it appears that this specific app does]/i] actually need GPS on all the time, because every time you search it actually searches Maps before it realizes that your search isn't for a location.
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I was afraid someone might say this... *sigh*
Well thanks for the suggestions, I'll try them out and if I get any positive results from the norm I'll post them.
EDIT: Something that's been helping me is that I made a tasker profile where when the screen is turned off it turns off the GPS with the help of the secure settings app plugin.
It does hinder some of the functionality of google now, but keeps a lot of it intact.
Hello, dear friends! I (and many other OneUI 4 users) stumbled upon a problem of "System UI" constantly (every 3-5 minutes) accessing the location (as seen from Permission Usage).
In my case turning off Wi-Fi, mobile data or bluetooth does not stop the location usage. No location-based Bixby routines are running, no Smart Tags are used. Every single option regarding location (apart from completely disabling it) is toggled off - but the location keeps getting used by System UI. The only way to stop it is, of course, to simply turn off location entirely.
Resetting all settings or just network ones does not help.
If you google "System UI constanly accessing location" you will find a lot of people with this problem, but so far no solution has been found.
Any help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Yeap, quit invasive behavior.
I turn off location unless I need it to be running.
My N10+/Pie behaves the same way.
Wearables will not run without location permissions however if location is disabled it will run. I normally run with Google play Services disabled as well unless needed.
blackhawk said:
Yeap, quit invasive behavior.
I turn off location unless I need it to be running.
My N10+/Pie behaves the same way.
Wearables will not run without location permissions however if location is disabled it will run. I normally run with Google play Services disabled as well unless needed.
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I'm not sure it is an intended behaviour. Feels like a bug to me.
With all those location stuff happening in background my phone lags quite a bit.
When I turn off the location it is buttery smooth...
montibor said:
I'm not sure it is an intended behaviour. Feels like a bug to me.
With all those location stuff happening in background my phone lags quite a bit.
When I turn off the location it is buttery smooth...
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That's interesting. You sure it's not chewing up bandwidth at the same time? That can definitely cause lagging. Try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app. The possibility of malware comes to mind or perhaps it's a glitch indigenous to that firmware.
If you can't find the root cause sometimes a work around is the only solution.
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That's interesting. You sure it's not chewing up bandwidth at the same time? That can definitely cause lagging. Try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app. The possibility of malware comes to mind or perhaps it's a glitch indigenous to that firmware.
If you can't find the root cause sometimes a work around is the only solution.
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Well, I put my phone into the safe mode and will later update here on how the location permissions going
Do it do it at night when not in use?
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Do it do it at night when not in use?
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I just tested the Safe Mode and.... the location is still being accessed every few minutes.
I'll probs try to contact the Samsung Support now :,(
montibor said:
I just tested the Safe Mode and.... the location is still being accessed every few minutes.
I'll probs try to contact the Samsung Support now :,(
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Try disabling Google play Services temporarily and see if it stops...
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Try disabling Google play Services temporarily and see if it stops...
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Sadly, it didn't work
See which apps use battery overnight.
Is all global power management disabled?
Turn off all app, Samsung, Google and carrier feedback.
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See which apps use battery overnight.
Is all global power management disabled?
Turn off all app, Samsung, Google and carrier feedback.
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Nothing helps, unfortuanately. People point out that it is com.android.phone that is constantly getting location. There might be some luck with ADB
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Nothing helps, unfortuanately. People point out that it is com.android.phone that is constantly getting location. There might be some luck with ADB
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I just keep it normally off. Rather than trying to turn location in all the apps it's used in. Many however I disable anyway because of security.
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I just keep it normally off. Rather than trying to turn location in all the apps it's used in. Many however I disable anyway because of security.
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Yeah, now it's off for me all the time as well. Have to be super cautious to not lose the phone now
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Yeah, now it's off for me all the time as well. Have to be super cautious to not lose the phone now
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Find my Device is something I don't miss.
Ha-ha you figured out that it needed to be disabled as System Administrator to toggle off Google Play Services
Keeping it with you at all times* and never lay it down unless in a secured location. It's a responsible frame of mind that many have lost as a skillset. There's no substitute for physical security.
It seems a bit complicated at first, but it's really not once you understand the flow put and dependencies. After a bit it becomes second nature to use the device like this. A little extra time in return for better SOT and security.
*I always wear bdu pants so the N10+ easily and securely nests in the cargo pocket. Easy as pie.
Develop a carry method that works well for you and protects the device. Get in the habit of making a mental note were you laid it down in the house, etc. Be consistent. Lol, my N10+ and my Gerber Strongarm are always with me
I'm happy with the battery performance, but only when the screen is on. When I use the phone mostly with the screen on, I get good SOT(6-9 hours), but with the screen off, the battery consumption is terrible. How can I pull this down?
Probably a cloud app; try temporarily disabling Google play Services, Google backup is a dependency as is Playstore, Gmail. Some apps also need it to run. I enable it once or twice a day. Disabled saves 1+%@hr.
Trashware social media apps like fb, WhatsApp etc shouldn't be installed. It all adds up.
6 hours SOT with a 5002 mAh battery isn't good, 9 hrs is fair to poor. That said all Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
Unfortunately, because of SD 8 gen 1 limitations (probably worse on Exynos variant), about 6-7 hours SOT is best you're going to get on the S22 ultra.
Try the following guide here & see if it helps your battery life.
I have the Exynos version. My phone has a SOT of about 10 to 12 hours. Rooted and bebloated. I do have the brightness very low though.
Android 13.
OneUI 5.
Latest.
Lightly debloated.
That's interesting. I guess depends on what apps the phone is using during SOT.......
Mind sharing your battery usage breakdown screenshot?
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Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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Real as it gets. All social media apps should never be installed. Many should even be logged on to. WhatsApp track record is stunningly bad.
Lots of users means its got a huge bullseye on it even if they try to secure it, it will hacked again like the sun rises in the morning... for sure. Meanwhile phishing scams run under the radar and count on you screwing up. And many do.
You got to ask yourself one question,
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Thanks for your opininon. Are you saying we shouldn't use Whatsapp? Is it real solution?
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No really. The problem is that all the apps developed by Meta (Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp) are power hogs. Meta does not care if it chews up battery. The primary reason is that Meta is shoving ads in your face. Even when your screen is off, those apps are running in the background. Meta is not the only offender. There are plenty of other app developers that do the same thing.
Also, there are different "flavors" of Android. Each OEM implements it differently (even within the OEMs). This makes it less cost effective to customize their apps for each OEM. There is only one flavor of iOS and iPadOS, so it is much easier to tweak it for iPhones and iPads than it is for Android devices.
I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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It doesn't effect any notifications for me that I use except Gmail. Most my apps run without it. I tend to shun those that do.
Some of the Samsung apps take the place of Google apps, no need to run both.
If killing Google play Services helps at night it's likely Google backup Transport running.
Hello, I have something to ask about. I need to know if there is any ability to store a system application variables usin adb. Imagine that I want to open my settings app and do something mabye a confirmation dialog will be shown in order to say something such as alert for something supposed that I did click on OK, i the normal case this alert will never be shown even if you clear the settings app data or clear the cash, is there any way to use adb to store the settings app data before opening it the if anything as the previous senario happened I can restore the settings app to the moment before clicking on the OK button or even before this alert has shown
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I understand. Thanks. I have another question. You said you turned off google play services. When I turn it off, notifications do not work and many applications do not work. How do you overcome this situation?
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Many apps that "need" Google play Services are Playstore pay apps. This can be circumvented by first allowing the app to activate, then firewall blocking their internet connection. Firewall block Playstore as well although it should be disabled except when needed.
If an app doesn't need internet access to function it should be firewall blocked anyway.