Hello everyone,
Ive spend the last hour or so trying to find a basic step by step for me here, but so far nothing I can understand- Please pardon my ignorance...
Ok-
I have a fully STOCK galaxy tab 2 7.0 Plus:
-GT-P6210 (US model)
-4.0.4
-Kernel: 3.0.15
-Build: IMM76D.UELPC
I would like to get 4.1-4.2 running on here, but ideally- 4.1/2 running a stock(nexus like) ROM. I am def. not a fan of Samsungs interface as time has gone by, but seem to favor the nexus's (unless there is better?) . I know I need to root the device, and I am fine with that, along with all the risks that go with this (I killed a atrix a few years ago).
So, if someone could direct me to the proper link(s), or if your willing to help me a little (we can work something out PP/BTC) Id greatly appreciate it!
I have the ability, just have 0 teacher to show me the way. From what I understand some of the ROMs available here are great, and id really like to learn. I am a hardware guy for a living, swimming in this world of software is daunting at times...
There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
DigitalMD said:
There is no such thing as a Google / Nexus style ROM for this device. there are variants of CM 10 but that is custom CM, not Nexus UI.
In fact there is no such thing as a pure Google version of Android for any device. Google does not supply the kernel and device drivers so Google Android from Google source runs on none, nada, zero, devices out of the box. Each hardware vendor takes the base Android and adds their own parts to the kernel, adds device drivers and in Samsungs case some additional UI and frame work features (Touchwiz).
The CM 10 JB variants work ok, but some hardware features like the IR blaster will not work on those since the HW is Samsung specific. A better experience if you don;t like the TW launcher might be to install the stock Samsung JB 4.1.2 ROM and then install one of the nice third party launchers on the market to get a different UI look. The launcher is really the major visible difference between Nexus UI and Samsung. Apex, Nova, and Holo are 3 launchers that work well.
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Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
Grumbles said:
Hello, and thank you for you reply!
That makes sense, regarding the Nexus/android ROM- again, please pardon my ignorance...
As for the IR blaster, i am not too concerned about loosing that function. I never really use it, and its never worked great anyway...
Id like to try a stock samsung 4.1/4.2 ROM, and try a 3rd party launcher, or even give the CM10 a go if the stock rom doesnt work. It is my understanding I will have to root the device before I can proceed anywhere. Is this a hard to do process, or pretty simple now a day (I would imagine)?
I again thank you for your help!
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You can install JB without rooting , right over ICS. Using ODIN.
If you want to customize, Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution,install JB or install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
Here is a link to the Samsung JB 4.1.2 for P6210. Using ODIN you install this over your current Samsung ICS ROM. (NOTE: the only 4.1.2 P6210 Samsung release so far is a UK ROM and some people have reported Wifi issues due to this, but I run this one and have encountered no issues at all. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278740
This appears to be the latest instruction for rooting JB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41800762&postcount=216
Once you perform the above, you can return to stock Samsung ICS later if you want, but that would most likely return you to factory stock and wipe your programs and settings, so be sure you know the consequences before you jump.
DigitalMD said:
Rooting is the starting point. Root and install a recovery module , CWMR or TWRP. Haven't had to install root in a few months, I'll have to look at the current threads to give you a recommendation on that.
One caution, install the custom recovery and root before you wipe anything on the ICS ROM . Samsung had a bug in the system wipe routine that can cause permanent damage to the memory. It is fixed in JB ROMs and also in the custom recovery software. Just be sure not to do a factory reset on ICS.
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Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
Grumbles said:
Thank you, I will wait for your reply!
and thats huge on the reset, no joke- i was thinking of doing that before I start the root process!
Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it.
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See my updated reply above.
Hello,
Thank you for all your help,
I am def. going to take the JB over ICS route, that would be fine by me!
ive downloaded Odin3, and in process of downloading the JB ROM, so yay! hopefully all will go smooth! I will keep you posted if I fry it, fail, or succeed!
Thanks again.
DigitalMD said:
See my updated reply above.
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I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
Grumbles said:
I have one final question for you, or anyone out there running this same JB/ODIN process...
Will this, and if so how much, bog the performance of the tab itself? I notice that the tab even with ICS tends to be a little "jerky" going from menu to menu, etc... Is this because of my hardware, or lack of the "project butter" being part of the OS? (I think that was part of JB?)
If I were to have the wifi issues, would I be able to flash back?
Other than that, i am ready to hit the "Go" button!
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Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
DigitalMD said:
Why would this bog down the tablet?. JB is much smoother than ICS. That was one of Goggles goals in JB. However, some people expect PS4 like performance ..... ha...., all of these phones/tablets use cheap / low power processors. You get what you get, That being said, I am very happy with my P6210 on JB
You can always use ODIN to go back, but you will lose all your settings and installed apps when you do that.
The Wifi issues I have seen reported seem to be that some US Wifi channels do not show up. Not surprising, there are differences in the UK spectrum.
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More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
Grumbles said:
More just a thought about the S/W being much newer than the hardware. I most certainly do not expect superformance out the device, but more or less was making sure the hardware is up to the task. Would you rec. I do a backup of the system past the basic "app back n restore" app?
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When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
DigitalMD said:
When you install the JB over the Samsung ICS, your settings and apps should be retained. For all brands and ROM, You can backup and restore apps with something like Titanium Backup if you are rooted, but you should not restore data between ICS and JB using most backup apps. the storage areas are different and doing so will cause bad things to happen.
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Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
Grumbles said:
Done n Done with success!
As you stated, everything held perfect and no issues on the wifi side of things. This OS really made a good difference on the tab as a whole, feels more complete.
I thank you again for all your help!!!!!!!!
What would be a reason to "root" this tablet other than being able to run custom ROMs and maybe be able to off load some bloatware? I feel like I am missing out on what is possible with android and really should get on the bandwagon.
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For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
DigitalMD said:
For this tablet I don't feel that any of the current custom ROMs offer any advantages or features over the stock setup. I keep it rooted in case I want to drop in a custom startup screen or backup things. Other than that, there is really no good reason to root for the tablet.
Hopefully some of the developers will update to JB and add some of the Note 2 or S4 features soon though.
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I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
Grumbles said:
I hear ya there,
What a big difference this has made! thank you!!!
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Welcome of course.
Keep paddling, we are all in this together
Hello,
I'm new in xda and beginner in the world of android ,So I need your advice :
1- Which Rom is the fastest ?
2- Which Rom is the most friendly with battery ?
(Stock,Omni,CM,Mokee...etc)
thank you in advance
promohammad said:
Hello,
I'm new in xda and beginner in the world of android ,So I need your advice :
1- Which Rom is the fastest ?
2- Which Rom is the most friendly with battery ?
(Stock,Omni,CM,Mokee...etc)
thank you in advance
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I use CM10.2 and it goes perfectly. If you have many apps of course it is going to consume some battery.
Can I have a comparison between the roms ?
I am running PAC 4.2.2 and it is fast, stable with good battery life.
comparison between major roms
promohammad said:
Can I have a comparison between the roms ?
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-- cyanogenmod is very simple and very less addons but very very fast,smoth and debloated.
-- pac roms are also fast and based on CM but pack of features like pie,ui changer,halo and many more over all ui is same as CM.
-- sungsonic hd is based on latest stock 4.2.2 and also full of features like multiwindow and more, the soud is like boooooom never heart sound like that on any other rom.. little bit slow than CM due to samsung touchwiz ui but sshd worth it.
you check other roms and there features in tab 2 android development section.
now its on you what you want from your tab.....
If you have a P31xx(7" version), i would definitely recommend Pure Bean HD V2. It's fast, stable and consumes similar battery as Cyanogenmod.
Stock roms are good if you want a bit more functionality and a better looking (but slow) interface.
For a P51xx(10" version) Cyanogenmod would be my recommendation. Despite having a higher resolution, the 10" tab uses the same gpu as the 7" tab and has trouble pushing more pixels. Therefore, you would want to squeeze out as much speed as possible.
Ok
Thanks for all who tried to help me
I finally decided to use PAC-Rom
MoKee Open Source 4.4. It has tons of features including multi window for apps and runs on KitKat.
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I want to root this Tab for my Dad 'cause he is tired of its sluggishness with all the samsung bloatware....so I want to install a stable ROM (preferably 4.4.4 or lollipop if its usable yet) which he can use as a daily driver. Since he works, I won't get much time with his Tab to experiment it to know for myself.
Can you please suggest 2-3 ROMs that I can try tonight?
ethereal_mist said:
I want to root this Tab for my Dad 'cause he is tired of its sluggishness with all the samsung bloatware....so I want to install a stable ROM (preferably 4.4.4 or lollipop if its usable yet) which he can use as a daily driver. Since he works, I won't get much time with his Tab to experiment it to know for myself.
Can you please suggest 2-3 ROMs that I can try tonight?
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Slim, Dhollmen or Markos CM11......Only try 4.4.4 Roms (which those all are) They are all very stable. Follow OP directions and you;ll be good to go.
CM11 running 4.4.4 is your best bet, just plain android with no bloat, no bells, no whistles.
Pp.
+1 for Slim, ran SlimKat for ages and now on SlimLP which rocks for Alpha.
Kernel?
I'm in a similar position as OP!
I need to install a ROM on my dad's P3100 as well, so I took your suggestions and plan to install Slimkat
Question is, What is the best suitable Kernel I should install with it?
Stock? or are there any custom kernels made for it?
Thanks in advance!
If you want Lollipop, I reccommend @Android-Andi's SLimLP. It is very stable (at least for me).
If stability is a factor for a user that doesn't want to troubleshoot the tablet every time they go to use it stay away from lollipop, these dinosaur tabs can't handle lollipop, kitkat is as good as it gets.
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Hi guys, I use Android 5.0.1 stock version on my phone, but it uses too much space.
I want to flash a new custom rom, which is lighter, and better than this. I used CyanogenMod but it only has nightly version, and it was not really stable(it still has camera, snapchat, on call problems).
So I am asking if you can suggest me a stable, lightweight and nicely designed(like touchwiz or cm) ROM.
thank you for your time.
tnjsrf said:
Hi guys, I use Android 5.0.1 stock version on my phone, but it uses too much space.
I want to flash a new custom rom, which is lighter, and better than this. I used CyanogenMod but it only has nightly version, and it was not really stable(it still has camera, snapchat, on call problems).
So I am asking if you can suggest me a stable, lightweight and nicely designed(like touchwiz or cm) ROM.
thank you for your time.
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You're not the first person to make this mistake, but this is the wrong forum. This forum is for the Galaxy S 4G, a first generation Galaxy S device that was released in 2010. The forum you're looking for is located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/.
There,, you'll find many, many different opinions on what ROM/kernel combination is best, search and read through the threads. Also, since its a Exynos-based device, Custom ROMs are very difficult to make and most will have at least some bugs.
I just found my old galaxy tab 2 10.1 today and I'm planning to install a custom rom in it but what is the custom rom for my device? I'm thinking on installing Slim7 but is it the best one and stable rom to install?
They're all similar as they use same device and kernel configuration and sources. Some ROMs are lighter than others.
They've all their own features, find a ROM which fits your needs.
You only also might want to give Android 4.4.4 or 6.0.1 ROMs a try, imo they run a little bit smoother.
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They're all similar as they use same device and kernel configuration and sources. Some ROMs are lighter than others.
They've all their own features, find a ROM which fits your needs.
You only also might want to give Android 4.4.4 or 6.0.1 ROMs a try, imo they run a little bit smoother.
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Ok I"ll look into those and does GApps can also be the culprit of slowing down the tab? I also found that using L Speed and set it to performance or something really helps but I've never head of that app though