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[Q] Is it possible to install too many apps?

I have had my Nexus S since Christmas. I love it! It is my 5th Android phone and by far the best, up until a couple of days ago I had not experienced any lag at all with the phone.
However recently the phone has been laggy, the back button seems to get stuck (with the backlight off) and it is starting to get unresponsive.
I am trying to work out what is wrong and I wonder if I have installed too many apps... I have >100 including lots of games. Almost all are installed to the SD card.
Could this be the cause of my problems?

Why would anyone install 100 game? I have well let me look hold.
1min later 423 games on SD thats close to 1.91gb but I only install 2-3games and when I finish I install another. Also your problem is you don't have BS service disabled which you should do and make sure they don't restart after shutdown on boot.

To be fair, of the >100 apps, i would say 30 are games
What is BS Service and how can I stop apps from starting automatically after reboot?

Huh Samsung failed again as Google supported them supplying folks with 512mb ram in 2011 talk about still unofficial stand on post mid2010 standard for new 2011 era. You wish you had that extra bit of ram now didn't ya
Anyways well you can use apps like Autostarts or Startup Auditor to disable service on boot/fc on restart. BS service lol well I think you know what "BS" means just disable anything you don't need which may be diff from person to person which is only what you know.
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i'll not be surprised at all, as i have just well over 377 apps/games installed
games usually take most of the space, as it needs to download additional files from the net
i have to constantly keep deleting stuff to make space for more games / apps
i'll say 70% of my space is utilized by games, and 30% by apps
in which they are both shared by MP3 collection and MTV clips collection, as there is simply not enough space for movies

AllGamer said:
i'll not be surprised at all, as i have just well over 377 apps/games installed
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Do you find that the performance of your phone has reduced as you have added more apps/games?

timshields said:
Do you find that the performance of your phone has reduced as you have added more apps/games?
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nope
i have 4 screen of widgets in the launcher desktop
and the only thing i would consider lag (because all the apps were moved to SD) is the ICON loading time, but it doesn't slowdown the launcher, it just shows with the default green AOS icon instead of the pretty ones
using GO Launcher EX as my default, more features than LauncherPRO / ADW yet faster and FREE!
same with GO SMS
both offers great skin capabilities, and lots of FREE themes (skins) to download

Generally, lag is a result of a poorly coded app sucking your processing power down the drain.

I have uninstalled a load of apps and everything is now running smoothly again.
Just need to figure out which one is causing the problem now...
Thanks guys

Enough Free Ram?

My razr maxx hd has been sluggish. When I checked running apps I found that sometimes it uses ALL available ram. The most free I ever see is about 38.
Is this normal? Any suggestions to improve performance?
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recDNA said:
My razr maxx hd has been sluggish. When I checked running apps I found that sometimes it uses ALL available ram. The most free I ever see is about 38.
Is this normal? Any suggestions to improve performance?
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It's normal for Android. It manages memory differently to Windows. Do some googling about Android memory management. What you need to look for is apps that are using CPU when they should be "asleep". An app like Android Assistant will allow you to look at that. Any app that's using more than, say, 1% cpu when it's not being used isn't playing ball and you should probably kill it. If it continues to do it, I would be removing the app.
Hope that helps

i think this is enough for your simple use , if you want to play games then not

I've seen that answer a lot, about how Android handles memory. Admitadley I haven't done any specific googling myslef. I have, however, observed how my my Linux boxes have handled it and after looking at the image posted I truly am going to be Googling Android specifically because it seems to me that it should free up memory before it gets to the point of the screenshot; can you imagine what the swap file looks like because it makes me wonder if it isn't full, assuming its a compressed RAM swap, and spilling over as a file on the card as well when things might be better already freed up at this point. If it was a desktop then I'd understand, but its a phone and you want a smooth experience out of it as much as can be provided. Its one thing to say "Learn how Android uses RAM" but I sure hope you do when you say it. As for me, I'll stop there and say that I really genuinley intend to find out (have the google search bookmarked for free time) because I know that my phone lags at times before it gets even close to what's posted, that I've never seen it get to what's posted, and that these setting can be easily changed on a rooted device... and that based upon experience with my previous Android that sported way more bloatware but a lot less lag, I've long been wondering if the settings could be just a little better. Usually its not a good idea to second guess the manufacturer but at the same time, a small change in a value can go a long way at times. Not saying you're wrong to say so, just saying that I hope you gave the answer as a person who genuinely understands for themselves and aren't just repeating others, lobie81.
All that said though, and knowing that my phone's ROM is supposed to be one of the more carrier bloat free varieties, what little I can see of the running services suggest that he might have a lot of things going that could be better handled by one process, like sticking it all in Tasker however that's a bold assumption based on a small portion of what's available to be seen.

[Q] Thread-xxxx consuming RAM

I was checking what apps consumes RAM from my galaxy nexus (running android 4.3, franco kernel), as there was a case when my available RAM went down to as low as 2MB!! So as expected, almost all applications get killed after removing them from foreground (including Launcher).
I checked System Monitor, and there were "apps" named Thread-xxxx consuming RAM. At one time, I noticed they were consuming around 80+MB to 90+MB. In the screenshot I attached, there are three Thread-xxx consuming around 50+MB each.
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Can anyone explain what are they for? They are not apps that can be "force closed", tapping on them doesn't do anything in system monitor.
They seem to free their consumed RAM after restart. So if I'm running out of RAM, i only need to restart my phone. Any other way to free their RAM without restarting?
Please tell me what other info I need to provide.. Thanks!

By the way, these Thread-xxxx processes appears only when the option "Show system processes" is checked.
I was again able to get a screenshot with those processes consuming RAM. Can't seem to find a way to free ram other than reboot.
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garuhhh said:
I checked System Monitor, and there were "apps" named Thread-xxxx consuming RAM. At one time, I noticed they were consuming around 80+MB to 90+MB. In the screenshot I attached, there are three Thread-xxx consuming around 50+MB each.
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How to handle threads in Android, and what you need to watch for
Processes and Threads

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How to handle threads in Android, and what you need to watch for
Processes and Threads
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Thanks for taking time to reply,
but I need to know, on a user perspective, how do I kill those threads?
I'm not doing any app development.

I was trying to see whether one app is causing this problem. The first one I checked is Skype.
I didn't turn it on for 2 to 3 days, and no Sign of those Thread processes.. Until I made a video call with Hangouts, immediately after the video conference these Thread processes showed up again. See the attachment. It started with only one (the 70MB) then this morning there were two of them.
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I tried going back to Stock Kernel to see whether I'll see any RAM problems, but after almost a week of using stock kernel, I haven't experienced any of these problems. But i miss my good battery life with this kernel..
by the way, after reboot, I don't have these Thread-xxx processes, but after a few hours they start to show up (see the attached image). They're all 20+ processes. Although right now they don't consume RAM yet.
I hope somebody can give me a hint as to what these are. Googling is no use. Or at least a good keyword to use will also be fine.
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RAM Hog?

Is this normal RAM usage? I just got my phone today and have a minimum of apps installed on it. Also, what is the icon next to the 4G LTE icon?
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normal for a samsung lol

0dBu said:
Is this normal RAM usage? I just got my phone today and have a minimum of apps installed on it. Also, what is the icon next to the 4G LTE icon?
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Pretty much every Android device ends up essentially allocating nearly the maximum amount of a device's RAM to the OS itself. The OS then manages your various apps by utilizing that allocated RAM as well as scaling up or down its use of the RAM as necessary. So although it seems strange, there's actually more RAM available to apps than it appears.
Perfect normal.
As for the icon I don't know... NFC icon maybe?

There is a saying that goes a little like this "Free ram is wasted ram" and for the most part it is true.
Android is smart enough to deal with ram all on its own and unless you are noticing tab reloading or other issues with multitasking, you shouldn't care about the amount of "free" ram you have.
Also, icon next to your LTE icon is for NFC.
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I get that free RAM is wasted RAM and I'm not am Android noob, that just seemed excessive.

In my LG G2 before with 2 GB Ram I get 900mb user free and with my Note 3 before with 3 GB ram I get 1.9 GB user free RAM. I think this is excessive. Though I always root my device and use greenify with it but still.

If you know that free ram is wasted ram, instead of thinking it's excessive, you should be thinking "Why is there still 13% not being used?"

I have no issue with the phone using a ton of RAM, but I'm finding that when I'm in the car using Google Nav (foreground) and Pandora (background) together, will usually cause Pandora to close. The only time I've seent his before was when the memory leak was first introduced on my Nexus 5. Really odd stuff.

Multitasking/RAM

You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Moto G5 Plus performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G5 Plus keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Brazilian version with only 2 gb certainly lacks in this deparment.

Pretty smooth and quick in my 4/32gb variant.

Nothing to complain about, my version is Brazilian with 2GB and Mult-task works fine, it just happens that it closes all open apps if I stop using the device for more than 5 hours, it happens when I'm sleeping.

My BR version 2/32 for now is working fine!! But there are many complaints from other users regarding lockups and crashes programs.

Us 2/32 variant (wished I would have gotten the 4) but so far not too bad. Had to replace a 9 month old lg g5 that bootloops when hot.
Might root it if it gets slow but for now it's ok.
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4/64 version running pure nexus. Almost keeps too many apps hibernating. When I pull recent apps list to go back to something else I was doing I have found apps that were active days ago still hibernating. Memory has been stable across both rooms I have used.

Stock rom no root no bootloader unlocked antutu scores
64081 not bad.

I'm coming from a Zenfone 2 Z00A 4gb/32gb. Do you guys think that I will suffer with a 2gb RAM phone (Brazilian model only has 2gb)?
I never leave more than 5 apps in multitasking, and I always close all apps before locking screen (except when I'm listening music on Spotify or using YouTube with background playback).
Just using apps like Telegram, Facebook, Tapatalk, Chrome, YouTube, Spotify, Instagram, Greenify, Lastfm Scroobler and sometimes Netflix, Discord, Google Photos... And rarely playing games, and nothing like Asphalt 8, just more simple games that don't get all my battery. I just want to see no lag in my device while using those apps continuously. What you guys think?
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By closing apps Android actually uses more memory and battery to reopen them I'm using 2 gig variant everything is smooth so no worries also look for alternatives to heavy apps like facebook metal is great and u can theme it