[Q] Is it possible to install too many apps? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have had my Nexus S since Christmas. I love it! It is my 5th Android phone and by far the best, up until a couple of days ago I had not experienced any lag at all with the phone.
However recently the phone has been laggy, the back button seems to get stuck (with the backlight off) and it is starting to get unresponsive.
I am trying to work out what is wrong and I wonder if I have installed too many apps... I have >100 including lots of games. Almost all are installed to the SD card.
Could this be the cause of my problems?

Why would anyone install 100 game? I have well let me look hold.
1min later 423 games on SD thats close to 1.91gb but I only install 2-3games and when I finish I install another. Also your problem is you don't have BS service disabled which you should do and make sure they don't restart after shutdown on boot.

To be fair, of the >100 apps, i would say 30 are games
What is BS Service and how can I stop apps from starting automatically after reboot?

Huh Samsung failed again as Google supported them supplying folks with 512mb ram in 2011 talk about still unofficial stand on post mid2010 standard for new 2011 era. You wish you had that extra bit of ram now didn't ya
Anyways well you can use apps like Autostarts or Startup Auditor to disable service on boot/fc on restart. BS service lol well I think you know what "BS" means just disable anything you don't need which may be diff from person to person which is only what you know.
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i'll not be surprised at all, as i have just well over 377 apps/games installed
games usually take most of the space, as it needs to download additional files from the net
i have to constantly keep deleting stuff to make space for more games / apps
i'll say 70% of my space is utilized by games, and 30% by apps
in which they are both shared by MP3 collection and MTV clips collection, as there is simply not enough space for movies

AllGamer said:
i'll not be surprised at all, as i have just well over 377 apps/games installed
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Do you find that the performance of your phone has reduced as you have added more apps/games?

timshields said:
Do you find that the performance of your phone has reduced as you have added more apps/games?
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nope
i have 4 screen of widgets in the launcher desktop
and the only thing i would consider lag (because all the apps were moved to SD) is the ICON loading time, but it doesn't slowdown the launcher, it just shows with the default green AOS icon instead of the pretty ones
using GO Launcher EX as my default, more features than LauncherPRO / ADW yet faster and FREE!
same with GO SMS
both offers great skin capabilities, and lots of FREE themes (skins) to download

Generally, lag is a result of a poorly coded app sucking your processing power down the drain.

I have uninstalled a load of apps and everything is now running smoothly again.
Just need to figure out which one is causing the problem now...
Thanks guys

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Enough Free Ram?

My razr maxx hd has been sluggish. When I checked running apps I found that sometimes it uses ALL available ram. The most free I ever see is about 38.
Is this normal? Any suggestions to improve performance?
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recDNA said:
My razr maxx hd has been sluggish. When I checked running apps I found that sometimes it uses ALL available ram. The most free I ever see is about 38.
Is this normal? Any suggestions to improve performance?
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It's normal for Android. It manages memory differently to Windows. Do some googling about Android memory management. What you need to look for is apps that are using CPU when they should be "asleep". An app like Android Assistant will allow you to look at that. Any app that's using more than, say, 1% cpu when it's not being used isn't playing ball and you should probably kill it. If it continues to do it, I would be removing the app.
Hope that helps
i think this is enough for your simple use , if you want to play games then not
I've seen that answer a lot, about how Android handles memory. Admitadley I haven't done any specific googling myslef. I have, however, observed how my my Linux boxes have handled it and after looking at the image posted I truly am going to be Googling Android specifically because it seems to me that it should free up memory before it gets to the point of the screenshot; can you imagine what the swap file looks like because it makes me wonder if it isn't full, assuming its a compressed RAM swap, and spilling over as a file on the card as well when things might be better already freed up at this point. If it was a desktop then I'd understand, but its a phone and you want a smooth experience out of it as much as can be provided. Its one thing to say "Learn how Android uses RAM" but I sure hope you do when you say it. As for me, I'll stop there and say that I really genuinley intend to find out (have the google search bookmarked for free time) because I know that my phone lags at times before it gets even close to what's posted, that I've never seen it get to what's posted, and that these setting can be easily changed on a rooted device... and that based upon experience with my previous Android that sported way more bloatware but a lot less lag, I've long been wondering if the settings could be just a little better. Usually its not a good idea to second guess the manufacturer but at the same time, a small change in a value can go a long way at times. Not saying you're wrong to say so, just saying that I hope you gave the answer as a person who genuinely understands for themselves and aren't just repeating others, lobie81.
All that said though, and knowing that my phone's ROM is supposed to be one of the more carrier bloat free varieties, what little I can see of the running services suggest that he might have a lot of things going that could be better handled by one process, like sticking it all in Tasker however that's a bold assumption based on a small portion of what's available to be seen.

[Q] Thread-xxxx consuming RAM

I was checking what apps consumes RAM from my galaxy nexus (running android 4.3, franco kernel), as there was a case when my available RAM went down to as low as 2MB!! So as expected, almost all applications get killed after removing them from foreground (including Launcher).
I checked System Monitor, and there were "apps" named Thread-xxxx consuming RAM. At one time, I noticed they were consuming around 80+MB to 90+MB. In the screenshot I attached, there are three Thread-xxx consuming around 50+MB each.
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Can anyone explain what are they for? They are not apps that can be "force closed", tapping on them doesn't do anything in system monitor.
They seem to free their consumed RAM after restart. So if I'm running out of RAM, i only need to restart my phone. Any other way to free their RAM without restarting?
Please tell me what other info I need to provide.. Thanks!
By the way, these Thread-xxxx processes appears only when the option "Show system processes" is checked.
I was again able to get a screenshot with those processes consuming RAM. Can't seem to find a way to free ram other than reboot.
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garuhhh said:
I checked System Monitor, and there were "apps" named Thread-xxxx consuming RAM. At one time, I noticed they were consuming around 80+MB to 90+MB. In the screenshot I attached, there are three Thread-xxx consuming around 50+MB each.
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How to handle threads in Android, and what you need to watch for
Processes and Threads
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How to handle threads in Android, and what you need to watch for
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Thanks for taking time to reply,
but I need to know, on a user perspective, how do I kill those threads?
I'm not doing any app development.
I was trying to see whether one app is causing this problem. The first one I checked is Skype.
I didn't turn it on for 2 to 3 days, and no Sign of those Thread processes.. Until I made a video call with Hangouts, immediately after the video conference these Thread processes showed up again. See the attachment. It started with only one (the 70MB) then this morning there were two of them.
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I tried going back to Stock Kernel to see whether I'll see any RAM problems, but after almost a week of using stock kernel, I haven't experienced any of these problems. But i miss my good battery life with this kernel..
by the way, after reboot, I don't have these Thread-xxx processes, but after a few hours they start to show up (see the attached image). They're all 20+ processes. Although right now they don't consume RAM yet.
I hope somebody can give me a hint as to what these are. Googling is no use. Or at least a good keyword to use will also be fine.
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[Q] Is there something wrong with our memory?

So I now have a Moto G 4G and previously had a Moto G dual sim and a s3 mini, all with 1GB of ram...
However, there is something seriously wrong with the ram on the moto G... The minfree is set to 300 MB and the phone gets to that point as a constant after about 2-3 days, making everything redraw worse than my optimus one...
I attached some screenshots...
Also, my cousin's nexus 4, with 2 gigs of ram, heavily bloated with useless background running apps by him, always has 1.5 gigs free ram... Can anyone figure this out? Is this happening in custom ROMs too?
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I have a Moto G 3G and I didn't face the issue you're pointing out at all. Are you using some kind of task killers or memory management apps? In case you do stop using them and let Android the way is ment to be working. You didn't mention anything in particular so my advice, for now, is reset it from recovery and see what appens. Good luck!
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I have a Moto G 3G and I didn't face the issue you're pointing out at all. Are you using some kind of task killers or memory management apps? In case you do stop using them and let Android the way is ment to be working. You didn't mention anything in particular so my advice, for now, is reset it from recovery and see what appens. Good luck!
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No task killer, and resetting doesn't work, did that a lot of times on the 3G version... Even changed firmwares... Always the same.
My problem is that chrome treats tabs as background processes, so when I run low on ram, they close even when on foreground....
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I'm running greenify in boost mode only, no task killers, along with a ton of kids games, on my kids' moto g.
Some games will only play one time, and have to have data cleared to be playable again as restarting or clearing cache doesn't work.
Some other games are extremely laggy, or have frequent freezes/pauses in the middle of playing, or the touch becomes unresponsive.
Watching videos in youtube works fine for about 4 or 5 videos before they start to get choppy or it'll just crash back to homescreen.
It happened on stock rooted.
It's happening on newest Gummy.
I seriously have no idea what to do to fix this, and just told the kids to deal with it.

[Q] Android Without free RAM!!!!

Hi! I have an Xperia E dual (C1604) and i'm with this problem, everytime i look the phone have only 90~30MB of free RAM!So every eight hours must restart the phone! I'm using the Experia Black Edition ROM, greenify in all my apps (except the launcher and keyboard), and i'm having problems to acess big sites and play hard games because of this problem. Can someone help me?
Hello.
No one can exactly predict the problem/culprit without further information. But i think you should start with looing up, which apps or services is exactly taking the RAM. It would be a nice idea to try this app, [Startup Manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=imoblife.startupmanager&hl=da], and remove some startup items and see if the problem persists.
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Hi! I have an Xperia E dual (C1604) and i'm with this problem, everytime i look the phone have only 90~30MB of free RAM!So every eight hours must restart the phone! I'm using the Experia Black Edition ROM, greenify in all my apps (except the launcher and keyboard), and i'm having problems to acess big sites and play hard games because of this problem. Can someone help me?
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In either way you wont be able to play high end games since its a low ram device i had the exact device but i threw it out the window and got a better phone suggest you doing that + more ram wont give you anything since the cpu and gpu is really really crap. so if you dont need to play games and just dont want the system to lag i suggest installing Android LimeOs 1.1 or 1.12 since its very very light weight i have
xperia go and another phone on xperia go it has 512 ram and with lime os there is about 200-100 mb left
thats the limit of free ram cuz the system rezerves about 300 mb
In either way you wont be able to play high end games since its a low ram device i had the exact device but i threw it out the window and got a better phone suggest you doing that + more ram wont give you anything since the cpu and gpu is really really crap. so if you dont need to play games and just dont want the system to lag i suggest installing Android LimeOs 1.1 or 1.12 since its very very light weight i have
xperia go and another phone on xperia go it has 512 ram and with lime os there is about 200-100 mb left
thats the limit of free ram cuz the system rezerves about 300 mb
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yeah, i know about that....but i don't have money to buy other phone, and if i had money to change my smartphone, i would not be asking. But thank you!!! I will search this Android ROM,thank you!
Hello.
No one can exactly predict the problem/culprit without further information. But i think you should start with looing up, which apps or services is exactly taking the RAM. It would be a nice idea to try this app, [Startup Manager: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...manager&hl=da], and remove some startup items and see if the problem persists.
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this was the first thing i made when i installed the ROM and the apps.
Guys, my problem is, after hours, my android become slow, and without free RAM, i installed the "watchdog" app, and i saw, all memory is consumed by system apps (some are necessary, some not) and Whatsapp closes, my Launcher (smartlauncher 2) closes too, and it's pissing me off!
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Xperia XZ Serious Overheating Issues

Hey guys in the past week my XZ has been having some serious overheating issues. Even just idling at the home screen it sits at around 40-45c. It seriously makes the phone unusable since when you open anything it just warms up quick and throttles hard. I was thinking it was the last patch that came out so I unlocked the bootloader and tried out a couple of roms like carbon rom which was buggy as hell and slimbit aosp. No improvement. Tried out eXistenZ 6.0 which is what im still on now and no improvement. I honestly have no clue whats going on if anyone can help me that'd be great. Do you guys think my battery could be needing replacement? The phone isint even a year old. I have also tried the FSCv2 mod and still no improvement.
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Change habit that after clean flash instantly install everything that exists in the playstore , especially various CPU/memory/battery monitors.
Install one aplication at a time until you find the problem.
btw, carbonrom Is excellent rom like all the other AOSP ROMs for the XZ
uglavnom_bezopasni said:
Change habit that after clean flash instantly install everything that exists in the playstore , especially various CPU/memory/battery monitors.
Install one aplication at a time until you find the problem.
btw, carbonrom Is excellent rom like all the other AOSP ROMs for the XZ
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I don't think its a certain app I installed since it just started happening out of nowhere after no new apps have been installed. Android battery menu doesn't show any excessive battery drain from apps either. Even after I did a clean flash it was getting super hot and throttled in the setup process.
*Edit* It actually got to 50c while simply replying to your reply in Chrome and lagged tf out of my keyboard. Literally about to throw this phone at a wall.
So I've undervolted the cpu and the phone still reached 53c after browsing Instagram for about a couple minutes. Im seriously loosing my **** at this point. Im seriously thinking that this phone needs a new battery or something even tho its less than a year old.
Update. Did a fresh install of stock rom using flashtool and it throttled during the setup process and still throttles with no apps just trying to send a text message or simply play a song using google play music. Seriously nobody has a clue what is going on? I literally have to have my phone next to a fan just to do anything on it.
I discovered that my battery is only at 38c usualy so I think its safe to say that my battery is okay. My cpu is constantly pinned at 45+ and I only get about 3-4 hours out of a full charge. Did google play services get an update or something? I have no apps installed in my phone still. I seriously need any help

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