Phones for alternative OS' - General Topics

I'm really tired of Google, Microsoft and Apple and want to get away from them. So i'm wondering if there's any people here who've actually tested some of the phones with the new operating systems, like Ubuntu, Firefox OS, Tizen and Sailfish, and who can recommend some phones.

I've been using Flyme os on my Nexus 5 and I enjoy it very much. I agree that Stock rom is kind of boring.

I tried ubuntu on Nexus 10 about 6 months ago, but android worked better on it. Had some issues like battery draining fast, not so good performance and some application not working and lack of support application.

Thanks guys. But aren't there any phones not made by Google that have active alternative-OS modding?

RobbyRobbb said:
I'm really tired of Google, Microsoft and Apple and want to get away from them. So i'm wondering if there's any people here who've actually tested some of the phones with the new operating systems, like Ubuntu, Firefox OS, Tizen and Sailfish, and who can recommend some phones.
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Did you hear of any Tizen phones? I have only heard about wearables. Release of the first Tizen phone from Samsung was recently delayed. Again.

RobbyRobbb said:
Thanks guys. But aren't there any phones not made by Google that have active alternative-OS modding?
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I've heard of the Alcatel onetouch fire that runs firefox o.s. by default, and also Sony had offered the same o.s. for the xperia e. You can check them out if you wish.
Here's a video with an xperia e running the experimental version of the firefox o.s. (it's in Czech): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C72j1LdOEC0

RobbyRobbb said:
I'm really tired of Google, Microsoft and Apple and want to get away from them. So i'm wondering if there's any people here who've actually tested some of the phones with the new operating systems, like Ubuntu, Firefox OS, Tizen and Sailfish, and who can recommend some phones.
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For now android and IOs are the best, but maybe in the future be windows, but not windows mobile phone unless the windows that using the surfaces. Regards

oleg.derevenetz said:
Did you hear of any Tizen phones? I have only heard about wearables. Release of the first Tizen phone from Samsung was recently delayed. Again.
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Nope. There's so many phones out there that may or may not get one or more of these OS' that i felt it's best just to ask what people think is the best combination. I have a Galaxy Note II LTE for example, but it has seemingly no alternative OS developer interest whatsoever.
|>/\nte said:
I've heard of the Alcatel onetouch fire that runs firefox o.s. by default, and also Sony had offered the same o.s. for the xperia e. You can check them out if you wish.
Here's a video with an xperia e running the experimental version of the firefox o.s. (it's in Czech): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C72j1LdOEC0
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Hmm, there's many different Onetouch and Xperia models. I would like a mid-budget or better phone really. Ubuntu for example needs quite a powerful phone and it would be nice to be able to run it.
garcia.sl said:
For now android and IOs are the best, but maybe in the future be windows, but not windows mobile phone unless the windows that using the surfaces. Regards
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Well, i've already tried the best for years. Now i want something different, and to get away from the big guys. The process of getting the alternative OS' onto existing or planned high-budget phones is sure taking its sweet old time.

ComputerEngineer said:
I've been using Flyme os on my Nexus 5 and I enjoy it very much. I agree that Stock rom is kind of boring.
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Hope Flyme os will be available for Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505 too

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DUAL Boot Android and ios5

Hi Friends,
Have anybody tried to dual boot android with ios5. It will be great if someone can do this.
While searching came across this
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.in/
Any solutions?
I don't think that's possible.
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You can't run iOS as a rom because its closed source. It would be impossible to port because all the libs are different even though its based off linux
IOS is based off of Mac OSX which is based off of *Unix*
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so the info on the links is just bull**** ?
BUT: it is possible to have your android phone "transformed" to look like ios with miui rom and iphone theme.
that still doesnt give access to the appstore but its as near as we can get to ios looks
Got none of the required devices I would have tried otherwise :/
i have a desire hd but i dont really think this is legit.. probably just some guy hunting payperclicks
This will never be possible. IPhone and android phones havedifferent processor architecture.
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It IS possible to dual boot an iPhone with Android and iOS, the project is called iDroid (idroidproject[.]org) but some of the iPhone jail breakers (like @chronic) are creating a linux-based OS (called Magenta) that replicates iPhone OS 1.0, my source says that it currently runs on ARM7 hardware
Magenta is an implementation of Darwin/BSD on top of the Linux kernel. It is made up of a number of kernel and userland components that work together. It is fully binary compatible with iPhone OS 5.0 (as in, it uses the same binary format).
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The final goal is probably recreating the iPhone OS 1.0 stack. I think this is a pretty feasible goal, considering the fact that there are so many open source libs that can be used to replace the proprietary libs used by Apple. Just as an example:
* CoreGraphics -> Cairo
-> FreeType
-> libpng/jpg
* Celestial -> Various open source media decoding libs.
* UIKit -> Chamelleon
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see my source for the news post: ht.tp://bit[.]ly/KZZ1up (9to5Mac)
More information about Magenta: ht.tp://bit[.]ly/Oo6eV4
Or this for the source code: ht.tp://crna[.]cc/magenta_source.html
The original ios firmware? ? I think its cool, hope they develop for the new ios though. Number one was pretty lame
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Dri94 said:
The original ios firmware? ? I think its cool, hope they develop for the new ios though. Number one was pretty lame
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I think so, they say the aim is to run iOS
The project does not wish to build a platform that can run Apple’s App Store apps; it appears to just aim at running iOS.
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As you can see it isn't for running App Store apps, but if it has root access like a rooted android, then you can just put any app on the device..
Like a Cydia app (for the ones who don't know: Cydia is an App Store that you get when you jailbreak your iPhone)
Dual boot iOS and Android. Hm... why not to try Linux instead? iOS is not flexible as Android and what's the point of it? Also we can start porting Windows 8 and other stuff.
arpitsinghi said:
Hi Friends,
Have anybody tried to dual boot android with ios5. It will be great if someone can do this.
While searching came across this
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.in/
Any solutions?
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iOS 5 is designed to run only on apple's specified hardware design. It is next to impossible to have apple software running on android hardware, but there have been reports of android running on apple hardware. This all involves a lot of lib tweaking, proper execution of binaries, andjust plain coding genius.
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k28king1 said:
iOS 5 is designed to run only on apple's specified hardware design. It is next to impossible to have apple software running on android hardware, but there have been reports of android running on apple hardware. This all involves a lot of lib tweaking, proper execution of binaries, andjust plain coding genius.
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Look at post #9 It IS possible if someone tries to get it on an android with a bit porting of the Magenta-project. And yes it is possible to run android on iPhone (post #9 as well) it is called iDroid (as mentioned in post #9)
here is the source code from cronic, who is an apple dev, who is working on porting it for us, http://crna.cc/ , if any dev is wishing to finish it off with his android intel
why doenst just buy an iPhone ?
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here is the source code from cronic, who is an apple dev, who is working on porting it for us, ht.tp://crna.cc/ , if any dev is wishing to finish it off with his android intel
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That is exactly what's said in post 9! Don't people read the whole topic, or do you just post blindly and hope that someone before you didn't post that ?? Sorry for getting off-topic
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For those asking "why?", I found this thread because I would like an Android tablet, but I'm worried I'll want the latest app or game and it will be only on iOS for too long before going to Android. I'd like the best of both worlds, someday (perhaps when iDroid is out of alpha).
therussman2002 said:
For those asking "why?", I found this thread because I would like an Android tablet, but I'm worried I'll want the latest app or game and it will be only on iOS for too long before going to Android. I'd like the best of both worlds, someday (perhaps when iDroid is out of alpha).
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If you want the best of both worlds, let me give you some suggestions:
Buy a jailbreak-able iPhone (4S or 4 recommended) jailbreak it on iOS 5.1.1 (if that's the current OS) and then with Cydia you can customize your iPhone as much as you want.
Buy both of them (which I have done) and enjoy
But do not expect iDroid to be stable anytime soon, for now..
That was a bit off-topic, sorry, but I hope this helps!

[Q] ios or ubuntu on android?

-possible?
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-possible?
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Ubuntu? Yes. lOS? You'd have better luck getting Windows 2000 to boot on our phones.
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iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
possible
jmxc23 said:
iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
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well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half of the apps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
trook said:
well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half ofapps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
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Ubuntu like Android is based on Linux so that isn't a surprise that it runs on the Nexus. Linux OS have been dual booted on windows computers for a long time so seeing Android dual-booted on Windows phones isn‘t a surprise either. Also those are dual booted not really replacing your android OS. The pic your talking about is a Ubuntu mobile OS so it should actually replace stock android like a custom rom does. I will also add that iOS is closed source software so you risk legal action doing that. The thread you linked to is closed.
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Ubuntu Touch for Nexus Devices, will the OS be portable?

http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/releasing-the-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-and-sdk-alpha/
So i've seen this working on nexus tab 7 and its awful. The OS is more smooth than android. Will this be a portable OS?
Devices that are currently being worked on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
A tutorial for porting the OS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
scorpionking674 said:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/releasing-the-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-and-sdk-alpha/
So i've seen this working on nexus tab 7 and its awful. The OS is more smooth than android. Will this be a portable OS?
Devices that are currently being worked on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
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interesting to get it to work on our device, there's a quite detailed tutorial on how to do it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting but to be honest, i don't think it's worth the effort trying to get it to work on our tabs for now.
scorpionking674 said:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/releasing-the-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-and-sdk-alpha/
So i've seen this working on nexus tab 7 and its awful. The OS is more smooth than android. Will this be a portable OS?
Devices that are currently being worked on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
A tutorial for porting the OS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
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". The OS is more smooth than android. "
LOL, Now how in the world would you know that since there is not yet a single fully functional version of this on any device.?
ubuntu is, like ANdroid, simply yet another derivative of Linux which is based on Unix born in 1969, now 44 years old OS
My brother owns NExus 7, and yes it is smooth and better than android. Though after sometime of use, it starts lagging as its only a DEVELOPER PREVIEW
scorpionking674 said:
My brother owns NExus 7, and yes it is smooth and better than android. Though after sometime of use, it starts lagging as its only a DEVELOPER PREVIEW
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ignore him, he's just trolling. been doing that on some thread lately. about ubuntu touch, i do agree that it is at least looks much better than android, but it still depends on a lot of android's components. it still uses android's surfaceflinger, the audio/video are still using android's abstraction layer, and the kernel itself is still android's kernel. it would be interesting to see how does it compare to android on our device. someone have ported it to samsung s3, search for the thread to see how it perform on exynos devices.
gingerboy92 said:
ignore him, he's just trolling. been doing that on some thread lately. about ubuntu touch, i do agree that it is at least looks much better than android, but it still depends on a lot of android's components. it still uses android's surfaceflinger, the audio/video are still using android's abstraction layer, and the kernel itself is still android's kernel. it would be interesting to see how does it compare to android on our device. someone have ported it to samsung s3, search for the thread to see how it perform on exynos devices.
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But first, we need to unlock our bootloaders right? And yes i've seen that UBUNTU touch compilation uses CM 10.1 bases.
Im not a DEV.
scorpionking674 said:
But first, we need to unlock our bootloaders right? And yes i've seen that UBUNTU touch compilation uses CM 10.1 bases.
Im not a DEV.
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i don't know if all of the Tab plus are the same, i'm assuming that most of them came with unlocked bootloaders, if there's any locking mechanism at all. i'm pretty sure we will get a running Ubuntu Touch on our devices sooner or later, it's not impossible to be done, but how functional it will be is not for me to talk about since i'm not a developer too.
so, there's a port being goin on for 7.7 and TAB 2.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
For TAB2 and not for ours? :[
It Seems they've done a good job porting Ubuntu touch os to tab 2.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p3110
Almost everything working.
could tizen be ported to different devices like the ubuntu touch?

What are the limitations/obstacles from installing windows PHONE 8.1 OS on my note 3

Hey everyone. I was thinking about this today.
I personally see the mobile phone/ tablet market going the PC route. you can install any operating system providing its compatable with the CPU and the hardware can run it.
That got me thinking. lets say for a minute Microsoft sold a copy of Windows phone O/S and you flashed it via Odin or some other way.
What would be the limiting factors? is it possible?
Its not only about the CPU, What about everything? you will break many stuff.
it would be a good idea to have windows 8.1 in note 3 if the windows phone os gets updated !
It would be a much better idea to buy a Lumia if you want WP 8.1......
1. Lol
2. Not gonna happen. Ever
3. You can't just install an OS like you would on a PC. Windows is windows, closed source, no device binaries for the hardware.
Wrote this S#!t via Samsung Galaxy Note 3 LTE
jjbk said:
Hey everyone. I was thinking about this today.
I personally see the mobile phone/ tablet market going the PC route. you can install any operating system providing its compatable with the CPU and the hardware can run it.
That got me thinking. lets say for a minute Microsoft sold a copy of Windows phone O/S and you flashed it via Odin or some other way.
What would be the limiting factors? is it possible?
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Dont even want Win8 on my pc, let alone on my phone.
Android is so much better, than all the others. So NO i'll fight this idea, with all my power (but that ain't much). :silly:
If it were a linux distro you were talkin about i'd say yes...
I think by the way samsung drive there TouchWiz android we will be like windows even Google courage people to root and miss with it's s branded phone's and nexus branch getting Ubuntu phone and maybe Firefox os I think In the future we will buy just the hardware and load whatever os you wish like DOS shipped laptop's
And regarding hardware I think even the Nokia lumia don't have hardware like our SGN3 so why not
In the end we will get all open source to drive the tech
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Why would you want windows phone? Windows is good as a PC OS, but not as a phone OS.
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This page, from microsoft disagrees.
[EDIT]I want both. I am a developer mainly focused on visual studios. Am to invested in android Apps to 100% dedicate to another OS[EDIT]
NJDubois said:
This page, from microsoft disagrees.
[EDIT]I want both. I am a developer mainly focused on visual studios. Am to invested in android Apps to 100% dedicate to another OS[EDIT]
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That's as a peripheral, not running the os.
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I know, wanted to post here about it but couldn't find the post. Sorry for that!

Blackberry Z30 Bootloader?

Hi
I have a Blackberry Z30 lying in my drawer, and I have been thinking of trying to make an Android build for it. Yes, I realise this would be a massive undertaking, but considering the parts in it are fairly standard, drivers shouldn't be an issue. The larger issue is the bootloader. My particular Z30 is a little special, in that it is a pre production device. However, I have no idea how to even check if it has a locked bootloader. Has anyone seriously tried to look at any BB10 devices, and how one might go about loading an Android build onto one? I'm looking at this as a long term side project for learning and to have fun.
very nice try
Xaiux said:
Hi
I have a Blackberry Z30 lying in my drawer...
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I have the same BlackBerry Z30 device, waiting for 10.3.3 to see what's changed in the OS. Do you think it's possible to build for it an updated Android runtime based on Marshmallow or Nougat with Google services that works alongside BB10 OS instead of old Android 4.3 runtime that our devices have now?
VBBoston said:
I have the same BlackBerry Z30 device, waiting for 10.3.3 to see what's changed in the OS. Do you think it's possible to build for it an updated Android runtime based on Marshmallow or Nougat with Google services that works alongside BB10 OS instead of old Android 4.3 runtime that our devices have now?
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To be perfectly honest, I would think that's much harder than building Android for it.
I think that would be hard too. you might take a look at Blackberry Link app and find how it works with this Qualcom device, I have no idea how to, but someone might know, that aplication loads the firmware when you get a BB bricked. But in my personal opinion its a great device, the BB10 OS is perfect for my needs, so I think tha would be better finding solutions for Google services on the BB10. a lot of them can be patched but there are a lot of bugs on them. In my opinion that will be a good start.

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