Ubuntu Touch for Nexus Devices, will the OS be portable? - Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus

http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/releasing-the-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-and-sdk-alpha/
So i've seen this working on nexus tab 7 and its awful. The OS is more smooth than android. Will this be a portable OS?
Devices that are currently being worked on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
A tutorial for porting the OS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting

scorpionking674 said:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/releasing-the-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-and-sdk-alpha/
So i've seen this working on nexus tab 7 and its awful. The OS is more smooth than android. Will this be a portable OS?
Devices that are currently being worked on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
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interesting to get it to work on our device, there's a quite detailed tutorial on how to do it here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting but to be honest, i don't think it's worth the effort trying to get it to work on our tabs for now.

scorpionking674 said:
http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/02/releasing-the-ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-and-sdk-alpha/
So i've seen this working on nexus tab 7 and its awful. The OS is more smooth than android. Will this be a portable OS?
Devices that are currently being worked on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
A tutorial for porting the OS: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
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". The OS is more smooth than android. "
LOL, Now how in the world would you know that since there is not yet a single fully functional version of this on any device.?
ubuntu is, like ANdroid, simply yet another derivative of Linux which is based on Unix born in 1969, now 44 years old OS

My brother owns NExus 7, and yes it is smooth and better than android. Though after sometime of use, it starts lagging as its only a DEVELOPER PREVIEW

scorpionking674 said:
My brother owns NExus 7, and yes it is smooth and better than android. Though after sometime of use, it starts lagging as its only a DEVELOPER PREVIEW
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ignore him, he's just trolling. been doing that on some thread lately. about ubuntu touch, i do agree that it is at least looks much better than android, but it still depends on a lot of android's components. it still uses android's surfaceflinger, the audio/video are still using android's abstraction layer, and the kernel itself is still android's kernel. it would be interesting to see how does it compare to android on our device. someone have ported it to samsung s3, search for the thread to see how it perform on exynos devices.

gingerboy92 said:
ignore him, he's just trolling. been doing that on some thread lately. about ubuntu touch, i do agree that it is at least looks much better than android, but it still depends on a lot of android's components. it still uses android's surfaceflinger, the audio/video are still using android's abstraction layer, and the kernel itself is still android's kernel. it would be interesting to see how does it compare to android on our device. someone have ported it to samsung s3, search for the thread to see how it perform on exynos devices.
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But first, we need to unlock our bootloaders right? And yes i've seen that UBUNTU touch compilation uses CM 10.1 bases.
Im not a DEV.

scorpionking674 said:
But first, we need to unlock our bootloaders right? And yes i've seen that UBUNTU touch compilation uses CM 10.1 bases.
Im not a DEV.
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i don't know if all of the Tab plus are the same, i'm assuming that most of them came with unlocked bootloaders, if there's any locking mechanism at all. i'm pretty sure we will get a running Ubuntu Touch on our devices sooner or later, it's not impossible to be done, but how functional it will be is not for me to talk about since i'm not a developer too.

so, there's a port being goin on for 7.7 and TAB 2.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices

For TAB2 and not for ours? :[
It Seems they've done a good job porting Ubuntu touch os to tab 2.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p3110
Almost everything working.

could tizen be ported to different devices like the ubuntu touch?

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DUAL Boot Android and ios5

Hi Friends,
Have anybody tried to dual boot android with ios5. It will be great if someone can do this.
While searching came across this
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.in/
Any solutions?
I don't think that's possible.
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You can't run iOS as a rom because its closed source. It would be impossible to port because all the libs are different even though its based off linux
IOS is based off of Mac OSX which is based off of *Unix*
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so the info on the links is just bull**** ?
BUT: it is possible to have your android phone "transformed" to look like ios with miui rom and iphone theme.
that still doesnt give access to the appstore but its as near as we can get to ios looks
Got none of the required devices I would have tried otherwise :/
i have a desire hd but i dont really think this is legit.. probably just some guy hunting payperclicks
This will never be possible. IPhone and android phones havedifferent processor architecture.
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It IS possible to dual boot an iPhone with Android and iOS, the project is called iDroid (idroidproject[.]org) but some of the iPhone jail breakers (like @chronic) are creating a linux-based OS (called Magenta) that replicates iPhone OS 1.0, my source says that it currently runs on ARM7 hardware
Magenta is an implementation of Darwin/BSD on top of the Linux kernel. It is made up of a number of kernel and userland components that work together. It is fully binary compatible with iPhone OS 5.0 (as in, it uses the same binary format).
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The final goal is probably recreating the iPhone OS 1.0 stack. I think this is a pretty feasible goal, considering the fact that there are so many open source libs that can be used to replace the proprietary libs used by Apple. Just as an example:
* CoreGraphics -> Cairo
-> FreeType
-> libpng/jpg
* Celestial -> Various open source media decoding libs.
* UIKit -> Chamelleon
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see my source for the news post: ht.tp://bit[.]ly/KZZ1up (9to5Mac)
More information about Magenta: ht.tp://bit[.]ly/Oo6eV4
Or this for the source code: ht.tp://crna[.]cc/magenta_source.html
The original ios firmware? ? I think its cool, hope they develop for the new ios though. Number one was pretty lame
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Dri94 said:
The original ios firmware? ? I think its cool, hope they develop for the new ios though. Number one was pretty lame
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I think so, they say the aim is to run iOS
The project does not wish to build a platform that can run Apple’s App Store apps; it appears to just aim at running iOS.
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As you can see it isn't for running App Store apps, but if it has root access like a rooted android, then you can just put any app on the device..
Like a Cydia app (for the ones who don't know: Cydia is an App Store that you get when you jailbreak your iPhone)
Dual boot iOS and Android. Hm... why not to try Linux instead? iOS is not flexible as Android and what's the point of it? Also we can start porting Windows 8 and other stuff.
arpitsinghi said:
Hi Friends,
Have anybody tried to dual boot android with ios5. It will be great if someone can do this.
While searching came across this
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid
http://bootdroid.blogspot.in/
Any solutions?
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iOS 5 is designed to run only on apple's specified hardware design. It is next to impossible to have apple software running on android hardware, but there have been reports of android running on apple hardware. This all involves a lot of lib tweaking, proper execution of binaries, andjust plain coding genius.
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k28king1 said:
iOS 5 is designed to run only on apple's specified hardware design. It is next to impossible to have apple software running on android hardware, but there have been reports of android running on apple hardware. This all involves a lot of lib tweaking, proper execution of binaries, andjust plain coding genius.
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Look at post #9 It IS possible if someone tries to get it on an android with a bit porting of the Magenta-project. And yes it is possible to run android on iPhone (post #9 as well) it is called iDroid (as mentioned in post #9)
here is the source code from cronic, who is an apple dev, who is working on porting it for us, http://crna.cc/ , if any dev is wishing to finish it off with his android intel
why doenst just buy an iPhone ?
android_isda_**** said:
here is the source code from cronic, who is an apple dev, who is working on porting it for us, ht.tp://crna.cc/ , if any dev is wishing to finish it off with his android intel
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That is exactly what's said in post 9! Don't people read the whole topic, or do you just post blindly and hope that someone before you didn't post that ?? Sorry for getting off-topic
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For those asking "why?", I found this thread because I would like an Android tablet, but I'm worried I'll want the latest app or game and it will be only on iOS for too long before going to Android. I'd like the best of both worlds, someday (perhaps when iDroid is out of alpha).
therussman2002 said:
For those asking "why?", I found this thread because I would like an Android tablet, but I'm worried I'll want the latest app or game and it will be only on iOS for too long before going to Android. I'd like the best of both worlds, someday (perhaps when iDroid is out of alpha).
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If you want the best of both worlds, let me give you some suggestions:
Buy a jailbreak-able iPhone (4S or 4 recommended) jailbreak it on iOS 5.1.1 (if that's the current OS) and then with Cydia you can customize your iPhone as much as you want.
Buy both of them (which I have done) and enjoy
But do not expect iDroid to be stable anytime soon, for now..
That was a bit off-topic, sorry, but I hope this helps!

[Q] ios or ubuntu on android?

-possible?
xxaimbkstarxx said:
-possible?
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Ubuntu? Yes. lOS? You'd have better luck getting Windows 2000 to boot on our phones.
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my tapatalk signature sucks more than yours.
iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
possible
jmxc23 said:
iOS isn't a open source operating system so it is impossible to port to other phones.
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well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half of the apps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
trook said:
well at the xda login screen theyre showing ubuntu running on a galaxy nexus. We have android running on HTC Windows phones.....if you REALLY wanted it I'm sure it can be done, will half ofapps and settings work? No probably not. But anything is possible except stapling water to a tree......Check this out, I promise its not Rick Roll
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1262364
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Ubuntu like Android is based on Linux so that isn't a surprise that it runs on the Nexus. Linux OS have been dual booted on windows computers for a long time so seeing Android dual-booted on Windows phones isn‘t a surprise either. Also those are dual booted not really replacing your android OS. The pic your talking about is a Ubuntu mobile OS so it should actually replace stock android like a custom rom does. I will also add that iOS is closed source software so you risk legal action doing that. The thread you linked to is closed.
Q's go in Q&A
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Phones for alternative OS'

I'm really tired of Google, Microsoft and Apple and want to get away from them. So i'm wondering if there's any people here who've actually tested some of the phones with the new operating systems, like Ubuntu, Firefox OS, Tizen and Sailfish, and who can recommend some phones.
I've been using Flyme os on my Nexus 5 and I enjoy it very much. I agree that Stock rom is kind of boring.
I tried ubuntu on Nexus 10 about 6 months ago, but android worked better on it. Had some issues like battery draining fast, not so good performance and some application not working and lack of support application.
Thanks guys. But aren't there any phones not made by Google that have active alternative-OS modding?
RobbyRobbb said:
I'm really tired of Google, Microsoft and Apple and want to get away from them. So i'm wondering if there's any people here who've actually tested some of the phones with the new operating systems, like Ubuntu, Firefox OS, Tizen and Sailfish, and who can recommend some phones.
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Did you hear of any Tizen phones? I have only heard about wearables. Release of the first Tizen phone from Samsung was recently delayed. Again.
RobbyRobbb said:
Thanks guys. But aren't there any phones not made by Google that have active alternative-OS modding?
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I've heard of the Alcatel onetouch fire that runs firefox o.s. by default, and also Sony had offered the same o.s. for the xperia e. You can check them out if you wish.
Here's a video with an xperia e running the experimental version of the firefox o.s. (it's in Czech): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C72j1LdOEC0
RobbyRobbb said:
I'm really tired of Google, Microsoft and Apple and want to get away from them. So i'm wondering if there's any people here who've actually tested some of the phones with the new operating systems, like Ubuntu, Firefox OS, Tizen and Sailfish, and who can recommend some phones.
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For now android and IOs are the best, but maybe in the future be windows, but not windows mobile phone unless the windows that using the surfaces. Regards
oleg.derevenetz said:
Did you hear of any Tizen phones? I have only heard about wearables. Release of the first Tizen phone from Samsung was recently delayed. Again.
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Nope. There's so many phones out there that may or may not get one or more of these OS' that i felt it's best just to ask what people think is the best combination. I have a Galaxy Note II LTE for example, but it has seemingly no alternative OS developer interest whatsoever.
|>/\nte said:
I've heard of the Alcatel onetouch fire that runs firefox o.s. by default, and also Sony had offered the same o.s. for the xperia e. You can check them out if you wish.
Here's a video with an xperia e running the experimental version of the firefox o.s. (it's in Czech): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C72j1LdOEC0
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Hmm, there's many different Onetouch and Xperia models. I would like a mid-budget or better phone really. Ubuntu for example needs quite a powerful phone and it would be nice to be able to run it.
garcia.sl said:
For now android and IOs are the best, but maybe in the future be windows, but not windows mobile phone unless the windows that using the surfaces. Regards
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Well, i've already tried the best for years. Now i want something different, and to get away from the big guys. The process of getting the alternative OS' onto existing or planned high-budget phones is sure taking its sweet old time.
ComputerEngineer said:
I've been using Flyme os on my Nexus 5 and I enjoy it very much. I agree that Stock rom is kind of boring.
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Hope Flyme os will be available for Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505 too

Is there any interest in an Ubuntu Touch port?

Hey there, XDA.
So I've been puttering about with Ubuntu Touch on another device I have lately (Fairphone 2) and attempted a couple ports in the past...
(Moto X 2013, gave away to a friend, Galaxy Note 3, ran into a roadblock with partition sizes)
I got to looking at my Shield Tablet and was just thinking about how it'd be a near perfect poster-child for Ubuntu Touch for tablets. The device is still a relative power house, has great specs, native HDMI out for convergence, and even has OEM maintained device trees and kernel sources!
On paper, it's perfect.
So, I was thinking, would anyone else want to see Ubuntu Touch running on this tablet through the UBPorts project? Any dev support would be especially helpful, as Nvidia's hardware is truly a bit...unique.
Before anyone points it out: I am aware that there is a 'native' Ubuntu desktop port already, however it is awfully out of date and the developer does not seem very interested in maintaining it currently (and I don't blame him, considering how much work porting nvidia's L4T sources to the TN8 must be)
Interest from me, I can test. No good at developing though !
Yes of course! There is some interesting on having Linux in shield tablet. There's linux4tegra but it's dependent on lollipop kernel. So it would be nice having a dual boot stock nougat and Ubuntu for shield tablet thanks for the initiative.
Interest from me too. Also without dev skills, but happy to test
Son-j said:
Yes of course! There is some interesting on having Linux in shield tablet. There's linux4tegra but it's dependent on lollipop kernel. So it would be nice having a dual boot stock nougat and Ubuntu for shield tablet thanks for the initiative.
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Well, sadly, might still be dependant on Lollipop blobs/kernel as Ubuntu Touch still relies on Lollipop device trees since it uses libhybris for device support. Most annoying thing about it.
Is it possible to request Ubuntu for an updated kernel dependency?
So, this is embarassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ05o0RPwUQ
Which version of Ubuntu is this?
Lyokacanthrope said:
Hey there, XDA.
So I've been puttering about with Ubuntu Touch on another device I have lately (Fairphone 2) and attempted a couple ports in the past...
(Moto X 2013, gave away to a friend, Galaxy Note 3, ran into a roadblock with partition sizes)
I got to looking at my Shield Tablet and was just thinking about how it'd be a near perfect poster-child for Ubuntu Touch for tablets. The device is still a relative power house, has great specs, native HDMI out for convergence, and even has OEM maintained device trees and kernel sources!
On paper, it's perfect.
So, I was thinking, would anyone else want to see Ubuntu Touch running on this tablet through the UBPorts project? Any dev support would be especially helpful, as Nvidia's hardware is truly a bit...unique.
Before anyone points it out: I am aware that there is a 'native' Ubuntu desktop port already, however it is awfully out of date and the developer does not seem very interested in maintaining it currently (and I don't blame him, considering how much work porting nvidia's L4T sources to the TN8 must be)
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@Lyokacanthrope I can help with testing and stuff if we can get it booted
bneo99 said:
@Lyokacanthrope I can help with testing and stuff if we can get it booted
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hah...I kinda put this idea on the backburner cuz I couldn't really get anywhere and ubports/yunit seems to be floundering currently.
Speaking of flounder (aka Nexus 9), it seems that had an [at least booting] Ubports in the past
https://plus.google.com/+Ubports/posts/iCHaKMTXC1y
https://devices.ubports.com/#/flounder_lte
I am very interested indeed. And I can speak for at least two more people that I know.
UBports still seems to be working on Ubuntu Touch, from what I can tell.
How about Plasma Mobile?

Since we've had Linux boot on the Surface RT, will Android at some point?

Yeah most stuff doesn't work on Linux at the moment but maybe?
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
pedrofssf94 said:
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
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well dang
FoxyDrew said:
Who told you android ports are coming to this tablet? lol glad your optimistic though
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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pguarache said:
Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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You do know no one can see that because you would need to be in the discord server that we dont have an invite to lol
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
Nicknackpaddywack101 said:
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Yes, I understand your point. But the fact is that it had Android to start with, with the surface RT you have to use loopholes and bugs to get Linux working in a inefficient way and even the currently working(sort of ) Raspbian based Linux system has a bunch of bugs and missing drivers etc. Power control lacks behind Windows RT (mentiond here:https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/porting-chromium-to-windows-rt.2095686/post-87719273. The sad fact that this device is already 10years old means that it is unlikely people would pay attention to it and use it to develop Android, and even with Android installed the experience would be very limited due to the ram. support would be almost non-existent similar to what happened to the windows phones that got unofficial CM versions. Developers are already moving away from ARM32 to newer ARM64 and a few years later most apps would have a minimum api equivalent to android 6.
There is still a silver lining though. RT devices are dirt cheap since they are almost or practically useless now and Android still has excellent backward compatibility. Anyone who really has interest and the time could pick up the pieces of the Linux project and move on with doing it, but it still would not be easy.
Maybe a crowdfunding project could give devs some incentive?
But for now you could try to run a vm in linux or simply run their linux equivalents. Chromium, firefox, WPS office etc. Raspbian is compatible wih the snap store too, so you could use it just like ubuntu.
I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea, and I really look forward to this project taking off. However, there ultimately is a reason why Windows RT and their RT devices failed to take off.
working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
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working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
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Wow! Nice work! Would be interested to know the team behind this marvelous project. (since you mentioned 'we')
Also probably should embed the boot screen with your team's name...

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