Stock 4.4.3 root or roll back options. - Verizon HTC One (M8)

I have rooted a phone since my GNex and want to get back in the game.
From what I gather a fully stock M8 that got the 4.4.3 update can not root or revert back at this time. Is that correct? Sunshine only works if you have Soff?

eljoker402 said:
I have rooted a phone since my GNex and want to get back in the game.
From what I gather a fully stock M8 that got the 4.4.3 update can not root or revert back at this time. Is that correct? Sunshine only works if you have Soff?
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No, Sunshine will give you s-off and unlock and then you can do what you want. It works on 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.

jsaxon2 said:
No, Sunshine will give you s-off and unlock and then you can do what you want. It works on 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.
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So all I have to do is follow the Sunshine iwill S-off and unlock and Root?

eljoker402 said:
So all I have to do is follow the Sunshine iwill S-off and unlock and Root?
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install the sunshine APK on your phone from here, make sure you have it enabled to allow 3rd party installs. Once the app is installed, open it... it will go through a series of compatibility tests and, if all is well you will be prompted to pay the $25... once payment is processed just follow the instructions on the screen and you will be bootloader unlocked and SOFF....

Got it done. Thanks. Now all I have to do is flash a customer recovery. Ima need a PC for that right?

eljoker402 said:
Got it done. Thanks. Now all I have to do is flash a customer recovery. Ima need a PC for that right?
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Or you can download Flashify from the market. Works great - no PC needed.

mikexda said:
Or you can download Flashify from the market. Works great - no PC needed.
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You cannot use flashify at this point cause he is not rooted yet.
Download twrp from here http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...-VARIANTS-TWRP-Recovery-(UNOFFICIAL)-v2-8-0-0 here and follow the hboot method to install. You can then flash supersu in recovery to get root

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New M8 with update

hey guys i just got a new htc m8 i got the new firmware update for it but i havnt installed it yet and was wondering if the htc tool kit would still work with it to root it or if there was an easier method for it now thx in advance
Bierce22 said:
hey guys i just got a new htc m8 i got the new firmware update for it but i havnt installed it yet and was wondering if the htc tool kit would still work with it to root it or if there was an easier method for it now thx in advance
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From what I have seen, you cannot have just root on 4.4.3. Verizon has patched that exploit. The only way to have root on 4.4.3 is to be s-off and unlocked.
With that being the case, if you choose to go s-off route, I would try and s-off with 4.4.2 version using firewater to see if that works first. If that does not work, you will need to use sunshine and pay $25 to get s-off and then you can root your device using a couple of different methods. Sunshine will work on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 so it would not matter if you updated your phone before or after.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I have been reading.
jsaxon2 said:
From what I have seen, you cannot have just root on 4.4.3. Verizon has patched that exploit. The only way to have root on 4.4.3 is to be s-off and unlocked.
With that being the case, if you choose to go s-off route, I would try and s-off with 4.4.2 version using firewater to see if that works first. If that does not work, you will need to use sunshine and pay $25 to get s-off and then you can root your device using a couple of different methods. Sunshine will work on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 so it would not matter if you updated your phone before or after.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I have been reading.
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okay i finally managed to get s off using the firewater method but im confused on were to go from here
Bierce22 said:
okay i finally managed to get s off using the firewater method but im confused on were to go from here
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Are you looking to just root your stock rom or installing custom rom's?
jsaxon2 said:
From what I have seen, you cannot have just root on 4.4.3. Verizon has patched that exploit. The only way to have root on 4.4.3 is to be s-off and unlocked.
With that being the case, if you choose to go s-off route, I would try and s-off with 4.4.2 version using firewater to see if that works first. If that does not work, you will need to use sunshine and pay $25 to get s-off and then you can root your device using a couple of different methods. Sunshine will work on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 so it would not matter if you updated your phone before or after.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I have been reading.
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Are you looking to just root your stock rom or installing custom rom's?
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i actually dont mind sense right now i just came from an s3 with cm11 so its a nice change i just want permanent root and a recovery for now my main concern is its wanting to update it to 4.3 i delayed it untill tomorow but im not sure if that would ruin everything
Bierce22 said:
i actually dont mind sense right now i just came from an s3 with cm11 so its a nice change i just want permanent root and a recovery for now my main concern is its wanting to update it to 4.3 i delayed it untill tomorow but im not sure if that would ruin everything
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You are fine to let it update. You will not loose s-off.
What I would do is let it update, then I would install a custom recovery, TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717928. You can download the image and try this to install:
You will need temp root to install recovery with Flashify. Sunshine http://theroot.ninja/ will allow you temproot when you run it, install flashify and flash recovery.
Once recovery is installed, flash SuperSU.zip
If that does not work, follow this to install.
Download the above file into your platform-tools dir.
Turn off your device.
Turn on the device and keep holding volume down until a menu shows up.
Select fastboot from the menu list.
Plug the device into your computer.
If you have the right drivers installed, your screen should now say FASTBOOT USB.
Run the following command via the command line:
fastboot flash recovery recoveryfilename.img
Note that you will need to change the last part to match the name of the file that you just downloaded. This method requires that you have the drivers installed that come with the HTC Sync software that are available here. You will also need adb and fastboot for your computer.
Next you could install the SuperSU zip through recovery from here: http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip. Here is the thread if you have questions on SuperSU. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Boom, you are stock HTC Sense w/Android 4.4.3 with root.
You can stay on stock from there or flash a custom rom that already has root built in.
jsaxon2 said:
You are fine to let it update. You will not loose s-off.
What I would do is let it update, then I would install a custom recovery, TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717928. You can download the image and try this to install:
You will need temp root to install recovery with Flashify. Sunshine http://theroot.ninja/ will allow you temproot when you run it, install flashify and flash recovery.
Once recovery is installed, flash SuperSU.zip
If that does not work, follow this to install.
Download the above file into your platform-tools dir.
Turn off your device.
Turn on the device and keep holding volume down until a menu shows up.
Select fastboot from the menu list.
Plug the device into your computer.
If you have the right drivers installed, your screen should now say FASTBOOT USB.
Run the following command via the command line:
fastboot flash recovery recoveryfilename.img
Note that you will need to change the last part to match the name of the file that you just downloaded. This method requires that you have the drivers installed that come with the HTC Sync software that are available here. You will also need adb and fastboot for your computer.
Next you could install the SuperSU zip through recovery from here: http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip. Here is the thread if you have questions on SuperSU. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Boom, you are stock HTC Sense w/Android 4.4.3 with root.
You can stay on stock from there or flash a custom rom that already has root built in.
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sweet i managed to get trwp using fastboot method is there a clean sense rom debloated that i can use that has an updater and cpu stuff like cyanogen?

How about an updated root thread for 4.4.4 (Verizon) ?

I've been through all the threads on rooting my new M8 but they're all out of date since 4.4.4 dropped. Is there any prospect we'll see an updated thread or new simple method to root?
mk3 said:
I've been through all the threads on rooting my new M8 but they're all out of date since 4.4.4 dropped. Is there any prospect we'll see an updated thread or new simple method to root?
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There will be when there is a way. Right now there's not
How about unlock the boot loader on HTC dev site ?
finanandroid said:
How about unlock the boot loader on HTC dev site ?
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Verizon don't allow that.
Yes please
I also would like to see a new something to help with rooting. I have been running root on my M8 for a while and went through the weaksauce method until that was no longer available them I switched to the Towelroot method and also used sunshine. Now after the update to 4.4.4 (which I knew I should not have done) I cannot use any method. I am hoping the update to Sunshine 3.0 comes soon and that fixes the problem. Also some better instructions to turn of the firmware updates and stop those dumb notifications would help a lot.
reaperslay said:
I also would like to see a new something to help with rooting. I have been running root on my M8 for a while and went through the weaksauce method until that was no longer available them I switched to the Towelroot method and also used sunshine. Now after the update to 4.4.4 (which I knew I should not have done) I cannot use any method. I am hoping the update to Sunshine 3.0 comes soon and that fixes the problem. Also some better instructions to turn of the firmware updates and stop those dumb notifications would help a lot.
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If you used sunshine you are s off. Boot into fastboot and flash a custom recovery and then flash a supersu.zip. If s off you are beyond needing exploits.
Thought after I donated for unlock and S-off with Sunshine, I tried to flash twrp recovery as usually do all my flashing through computer (adb)
well it was no possible, weird thought to gain root I just need to flash custom recovery and superuser. Nope It was my M7 At&t with 4.4.2 Sense5.5, (hboot 157000) was untill I installed and run TowelRoot (after Sunshine) it did the root. then i flashed inmediately twrp and sense6 OTApkg.
So i hope that jcase-beaups instruct to or write a guide how to root the M8 4.4.4 after Sunshine 3 be released . It will help alot of users that think Sunshine will root as well and awesome will be if they include the root exploit along with sunshine, I know some people do not want to root just unlock-s-off but without root privilege it make no sense a least for me. I will be waiting for Sunshine3 to unlock _S-off-root my new HTC m8, I took the ota knowing that Sunshine will not work for a while ( I wanted to take the M8-firmwares-4.4.4 from VZW) truested that sunshine will do after.
I did with my M7 as well took the ota and then used Sunshine a small support to those great developers that put all their work at our hands. Thank you.
dottat said:
If you used sunshine you are s off. Boot into fastboot and flash a custom recovery and then flash a supersu.zip. If s off you are beyond needing exploits.
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I wish people would learn this and pay attention when it's said. Once unlocked, or in HTC's case, S-off there's no longer a need to you use a root exploit ever again.
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RikRong said:
I wish people would learn this and pay attention when it's said. Once unlocked, or in HTC's case, S-off there's no longer a need to you use a root exploit ever again.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk
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That's what I though but some users run into Root annoyances included me even after flashing Recovery and Su.
and yes I used root exploit in order to root. (towelroot)
so I hoped Sunshine for 4.4.4 fix the small problem. jcase said will include su in the next version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55985887&postcount=1218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56167285&postcount=1341
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56119893&postcount=1312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55874823&postcount=1176
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55884505&postcount=1179
finanandroid said:
That's what I though but some users run into Root annoyances included me even after flashing Recovery and Su.
and yes I used root exploit in order to root. (towelroot)
so I hoped Sunshine for 4.4.4 fix the small problem. jcase said will include su in the next version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55985887&postcount=1218
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56167285&postcount=1341
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56119893&postcount=1312
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55874823&postcount=1176
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55884505&postcount=1179
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The problem is users who are s off are trying to use hacky (towelroot etc) means of getting root back after taking an ota.
They should be using twrp or cwr flashed via flashboot. Then flash the su.zip of choosing in recovery. That's the only way you should be rooting a rom after getting s off or being s off and taking an ota.
Can't tell you how tired it gets trying to explain to an s off user who keeps trying to run an exploit to get root. First link you posted the guy used towel root after flashing twrp. Wtf. That's not how it works. That's how it breaks. /rant
dottat said:
The problem is users who are s off are trying to use hacky (towelroot etc) means of getting root back after taking an ota.
They should be using twrp or cwr flashed via flashboot. Then flash the su.zip of choosing in recovery. That's the only way you should be rooting a rom after getting s off or being s off and taking an ota.
Can't tell you how tired it gets trying to explain to an s off user who keeps trying to run an exploit to get root. First link you posted the guy used towel root after flashing twrp. Wtf. That's not how it works. That's how it breaks. /rant
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I don't know if they are trying to hack ? i just point to a annoying may be a little bug with the intention to enrich info about sunshine and users
experiences. In my case I did Sunshine on the wife M7, never rooted, pure stock, she took the OTA, and I want to try Sunshine.
after s-off and unlock I couldnt flash recovery and Su have no binaries , use to flash from recovery su.zip to correct this problem but this time
with out custom recovery you cant. I was s-off unlocked. then I recall towelroot, run it grant me root inmediately, flash recovery and Su binaris updated immediately.
finanandroid said:
I don't know if they are trying to hack ? i just point to a annoying may be a little bug with the intention to enrich info about sunshine and users
experiences. In my case I did Sunshine on the wife M7, never rooted, pure stock, she took the OTA, and I want to try Sunshine.
after s-off and unlock I couldnt flash recovery and Su have no binaries , use to flash from recovery su.zip to correct this problem but this time
with out custom recovery you cant. I was s-off unlocked. then I recall towelroot, run it grant me root inmediately, flash recovery and Su binaris updated immediately.
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What prevented you from flashing a custom recovery?
An unlocked s off phone will flash recoveries and firmware for that matter all day long without a complaint.
And by hacky I mean a hacky method to root. It's not clean.
dottat said:
What prevented you from flashing a custom recovery?
An unlocked s off phone will flash recoveries and firmware for that matter all day long without a complaint.
And by hacky I mean a hacky method to root. It's not clean.
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wells ADB was giving me a error, I changed cables but wait I was with the original usb cable so
I try a second time, same error it wont let me flash nothing, weird i was s-off and unlocked! so
i did towel root, su, busybox. then I was able to flash
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wells ADB was giving me a error, I changed cables but wait I was with the original usb cable so
I try a second time, same error it wont let me flash nothing, weird i was s-off and unlocked! so
i did towel root, su, busybox. then I was able to flash anything i want like allways do.
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You would be using fastboot to flash. If you want I can help you get a working fastboot/adb setup via team viewer at some point it works for both of us.
dottat said:
You would be using fastboot to flash. If you want I can help you get a working fastboot/adb setup via team viewer at some point it works for both of us.
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Thank you! but i have a working set up adb from long time ago updated last year, I only flash through fastboot adb you know its a piece of cake
an secure than anything, thanks again
PD: my retired HTC DNA is working on my adb, so my new HTC m8 as well.
the M7 after sunshine was the problem...solved.
finanandroid said:
wells ADB was giving me a error, I changed cables but wait I was with the original usb cable so
I try a second time, same error it wont let me flash nothing, weird i was s-off and unlocked! so
i did towel root, su, busybox. then I was able to flash anything i want like allways do.
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finanandroid, I received an error using fastboot when flashing a recovery. Turns out I was using a fastboot.exe from 2011. Once I found a newer fastboot dated 1/17/2014 the error went away. Might want to check that. dottat knows what he is talking about. There is no need to use towel root to gain root access on an S-Off Unlocked M8.
- Just flash twrp (http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/164)
- Boot into recovery
- Hit the reboot button
- Hit the system button
- twrp will prompt you to install SuperSU. Allow twrp to install SuperSU
- Once finished boot into your phone and open SuperSU to complete setup.
Darth Grimnir said:
finanandroid, I received an error using fastboot when flashing a recovery. Turns out I was using a fastboot.exe from 2011. Once I found a newer fastboot dated 1/17/2014 the error went away. Might want to check that. dottat knows what he is talking about. There is no need to use towel root to gain root access on an S-Off Unlocked M8.
- Just flash twrp (http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/164)
- Boot into recovery
- Hit the reboot button
- Hit the system button
- twrp will prompt you to install SuperSU. Allow twrp to install SuperSU
- Once finished boot into your phone and open SuperSU to complete setup.
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Thanks for your input, I don't doubt that Dottat is right about it, I didn't post a problem to seek a fix I fixed it since I posted, Just wanted to share sunshine user experience. however the problem wasn't fastboot adb.
the problem was with the HTC M7. state it in my first post.
So I have sun shine on my m8 and its rooted and working great. Verizon keeps trying to push the 4.4.4 ota update on me.. Is there an update i should grab or let it install since I have sunshine..
Thanks Kyle
Greetings,
Thread cleaned.
Not everyone in these threads are at the same level...if you can be helpful then please do so if not move along.
After all we were all noobs at one point.
Thanks,
BD619
i think this is the information i was looking for also.
is the problem only that sunshine wont unlock a 4.4.4 device?
but if, like me, you are s-off and unlocked already you can update by any method without worry and still be unlocked and s-off.
if you then re-lock your device (for whatever reason) after updating to 4.4.4, then you cannot re-use sunshine (until sunshine is updated)
please correct if i am wrong.
i am waiting to update to 4.4.4.

[Q] Help: Accidentally let the OTA through

Hi everyone,
I've got a Verizon HTC One M8 that was at Android 4.4.3, and which I have used Sunshine to get s-off so that I could use SUinstaller and get a basic rooting of my phone. I run it using the Xposed Framework and Greenify, so I kinda need root to make those effective.
Anyway, I've been touching "Update Later" for a few weeks now, waiting until I had time to sit down and figure out what I had to do to keep root when I took the update to 4.4.4. Unfortunately the dialog box surprised me this morning when I was going to do something else, and I ended up accidentally hitting the "Update Now" button.
As I got s-off with Sunshine, I assume getting root back isn't gonna be that difficult, but I just don't know how to.
Is there an app to give me root again? Do I need to flash a ROM? I want to keep it pretty stock, I don't necessarily want a custom ROM, and I want to be able to use this new Eye Experience thing that they've added.
Thanks to anyone that decides to help me out,
Chris
Flash twrp then flash su through recovery and wala..and u can then flash back the stock recovery if you wanna be ready for the next ota
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ChrisRevocateur said:
Hi everyone,
I've got a Verizon HTC One M8 that was at Android 4.4.3, and which I have used Sunshine to get s-off so that I could use SUinstaller and get a basic rooting of my phone. I run it using the Xposed Framework and Greenify, so I kinda need root to make those effective.
Anyway, I've been touching "Update Later" for a few weeks now, waiting until I had time to sit down and figure out what I had to do to keep root when I took the update to 4.4.4. Unfortunately the dialog box surprised me this morning when I was going to do something else, and I ended up accidentally hitting the "Update Now" button.
As I got s-off with Sunshine, I assume getting root back isn't gonna be that difficult, but I just don't know how to.
Is there an app to give me root again? Do I need to flash a ROM? I want to keep it pretty stock, I don't necessarily want a custom ROM, and I want to be able to use this new Eye Experience thing that they've added.
Thanks to anyone that decides to help me out,
Chris
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All you to do is use ADB commands on your computer. Just unlock the bootloader. Then flash zip for twrp. Once you do that, install a rom. But u may be thinking, maybe I need root. And the answer is TWRP automatically roots your phone because it installs all the Supersu binaries to your phone. Hoped this helped. If it didn't, just ignore it.
Robby_Rimal said:
All you to do is use ADB commands on your computer. Just unlock the bootloader. Then flash zip for twrp. Once you do that, install a rom. But u may be thinking, maybe I need root. And the answer is TWRP automatically roots your phone because it installs all the Supersu binaries to your phone. Hoped this helped. If it didn't, just ignore it.
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Totally not applicable. Guessing you aren't a vzw user? Op is s off via sunshine. Sunshine unlocks bootloader and turns s off. Op needs to simply flash twrp and latest su.zip. Also, on vzw you can't unlock bootloader unless s off. We don't get to HTC dev here... And besides, once s off, what does it matter if locked or unlocked?
Second post in this thread hit the nail on the head. @MotoTurbo
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Totally not applicable. Guessing you aren't a vzw user? Op is s off via sunshine. Sunshine unlocks bootloader and turns s off. Op needs to simply flash twrp and latest su.zip. Also, on vzw you can't unlock bootloader unless s off. We don't get to HTC dev here... And besides, once s off, what does it matter if locked or unlocked?
Second post in this thread hit the nail on the head. @MotoTurbo
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An unlocked bootloader will let you install different roms that are not sense. Like cyanogenmod, paranoid android, and that snazz. And yes I am on dh's android 5 lollipop ROM. I am on the vzw m8. I have the latest 4.4.4 firmware with digital Hugh's "custom firmware" flashed through fastboot. Thank you very much dottat.
Robby_Rimal said:
An unlocked bootloader will let you install different roms that are not sense. Like cyanogenmod, paranoid android, and that snazz. And yes I am on dh's android 5 lollipop ROM. I am on the vzw m8. I have the latest 4.4.4 firmware with digital Hugh's "custom firmware" flashed through fastboot. Thank you very much dottat.
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I don't think you understood my post.
the original post stated S-OFF via sunshine. this means bootlocker unlocked and S-OFF. VRZN doesn't allow free bootloader unlock via htcdev.
if this 4.4.4 release via OTA, then firmware updated (this is good). since still S-OFF, just flash lastest TWRP img (via fastboot) and install ROM (VenomONE v3.0 -- if you have 4.4.4 firmware).
you still be good to go... -GA
Yep I had the same question.
If you're S-Off, you should have stayed S-Off. Flash a custom recovery(e.g. TWRP), download Chainfire's SuperSU, and flash it to your phone.

OTA'd to 5.0.1 - Want to Downgrade for Root

So after getting my phone from Verizon, the OTA hit and updated my phone to 5.0.1 and I can't find a way to restore it back to 4.4.4.
I see Sunshine is working on getting it setup for Lollipop, but i have no idea how far away that is.
So does anyone know how I can get back to 4.4.4 to downgrade?
Unfortunately, it cannot be done. If you're s-on, and you have taken the upgrade, you're stuck until jcase updates Sunshine to support the latest software.
I really wish there were an option to roll back, my phone is ridiculously laggy since the update.
jcsugrue said:
Unfortunately, it cannot be done. If you're s-on, and you have taken the upgrade, you're stuck until jcase updates Sunshine to support the latest software.
I really wish there were an option to roll back, my phone is ridiculously laggy since the update.
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Is there any kind of ETA on Sunshine?
ZeroManArmy said:
Is there any kind of ETA on Sunshine?
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The last ETA that jcase tweeted was "any day" but it most likely won't support the latest VZW update.
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/572984291329613824
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The last ETA that jcase tweeted was "any day" but it most likely won't support the latest VZW update.
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/572984291329613824
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What's the latest update?
zeromanarmy said:
what's the latest update?
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htc6525lvw_4.17.605.5_r4-3.28.605.9
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htc6525lvw_4.17.605.5_r4-3.28.605.9
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Is that what I have? I can't tell. I've been out of the game for awhile.
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Is that what I have? I can't tell. I've been out of the game for awhile.
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Yep. You've got the most current version.
jcsugrue said:
Unfortunately, it cannot be done. If you're s-on, and you have taken the upgrade, you're stuck until jcase updates Sunshine to support the latest software.
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So a factory wipe won't do it?
That just wipes user installed apps and settings
I'm on stock 4.4.4 just got this phone and have gotten root using sunshine so I have s-off with twtp recovery. I want to keep things stock so if I returned to stock recovery And took the update to lollipop would I still have root? Thanks.
luvtorev01 said:
I'm on stock 4.4.4 just got this phone and have gotten root using sunshine so I have s-off with twtp recovery. I want to keep things stock so if I returned to stock recovery And took the update to lollipop would I still have root? Thanks.
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You lose root, but since you're unlocked its easy to flash twrp and reroot
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luvtorev01 said:
I'm on stock 4.4.4 just got this phone and have gotten root using sunshine so I have s-off with twtp recovery. I want to keep things stock so if I returned to stock recovery And took the update to lollipop would I still have root? Thanks.
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Not 100% sure but I think you have to be stock, unrooted or the OTA will fail. Since you're s-off already it's easy just to flash twrp and re-root once you take the OTA
BladeRunner said:
You lose root, but since you're unlocked its easy to flash twrp and reroot
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Not 100% sure but I think you have to be stock, unrooted or the OTA will fail. Since you're s-off already it's easy just to flash twrp and re-root once you take the OTA
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Thanks for the quick reply. Do you know how to get back on stock recovery? Thanks again
luvtorev01 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Do you know how to get back on stock recovery? Thanks again
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stock recoveries can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159 flash via fastboot or with flashify
luvtorev01 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Do you know how to get back on stock recovery? Thanks again
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Check Tigerstown's firmware thread first. He was going to post a pure stock ROM today
So, I think i'm in the same boat.. right now I am on 4.4.4, S-on, temp root w/ weaksauce 2.0. 100% stock besides that. I would like to update to 5.0, but want to keep root. Now since there's no root like weaksauce for 5.0, what are my options for updating to LP but still being rooted??
I have run the Sunshine APK up to the point it says it WILL work, but nervous about pulling the trigger and going all the way for warranty reasons. Would I be able to run the current sunshine to get S-off, then flash TWRP recovery, then flash the permanent root exploit and then install SuperSU. Take the OTA to LP. Once that's done, re-install TWRP and then flash root and super SU? As I understand it, S-off carries over through the OTA, but root does not??? All I really want is root to run Wifi tether app when I need to, other than that I really like the stock HTC Sense..
Sorry, but still kind of new and bewildered with the HTC stuff, all my other toys were Moto in the past so that's what I am used to tinkering with.
BTW Jcase said on his twitter @TheRootninja...new Sunshine release tomorrow (3-15-15)
baune7 said:
So, I think i'm in the same boat.. right now I am on 4.4.4, S-on, temp root w/ weaksauce 2.0. 100% stock besides that. I would like to update to 5.0, but want to keep root. Now since there's no root like weaksauce for 5.0, what are my options for updating to LP but still being rooted??
I have run the Sunshine APK up to the point it says it WILL work, but nervous about pulling the trigger and going all the way for warranty reasons. Would I be able to run the current sunshine to get S-off, then flash TWRP recovery, then flash the permanent root exploit and then install SuperSU. Take the OTA to LP. Once that's done, re-install TWRP and then flash root and super SU? As I understand it, S-off carries over through the OTA, but root does not??? All I really want is root to run Wifi tether app when I need to, other than that I really like the stock HTC Sense..
Sorry, but still kind of new and bewildered with the HTC stuff, all my other toys were Moto in the past so that's what I am used to tinkering with.
BTW Jcase said on his twitter @TheRootninja...new Sunshine release tomorrow (3-15-15)
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Pull the trigger!
Even if you S-off @dottat has a way to flash a S-off RUU, remove root, lock the bootloader, turn S-on then flash a S-on RUU and nobody could ever tell you were S-off at one point
Your scenario up there is almost correct, except after flashing the permanent root exploit in TWRP you have to flash the stock recovery back if you want to take the OTA. After taking the OTA you then would have to flash TWRP back and root again. A hassle I would not bother with.....
@Tigerstown will post a totally stock 5.0 rom in his firmware thread. He promised it for today - if it's not there already it will come... Just wait with the update until it's out.
So a much easier scenario would be:
Use sunshine and flash TWRP.
Flash the 5.0 firmware from Tigerstown's thread, then flash the 5.0 stock rom from the same thread. Done
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
Question: How does one clear the tampered flag?
WorldOfJohnboy said:
Question: How does one clear the tampered flag?
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I just used it to remove the red text, but you can flash the one for showing Locked and s-on.
So I could flash the Faux HBOOT screen, or clear the tampered and unlocked flags and it's essentially the same thing?

Just got this phone, and have a few questions about rooting.

Hey guys, ive just bought one of these and its on 4.4.2. Its not giving me a notification for the lollipop OTA, but the HTC sync software says there is one. Now my question is, Should I root and unlock bootloader before doing the update or after? Which one would be a less time consuming process? Also, are there any methods of unlocking the bootloader without using the sunshine app? I guess ill pay if i have no choice, but ill have to wait till next month before i have the money to do so and im itching to remove this godawful verzion bloat. One last thing, i bought the phone from a reseller in India, and am using it on a GSM network currently, but will use it with a CDMA one in future (its working now, tested on 2 CDMA networks). I just want to make sure that updating will not stop it from working with Indian CDMA.
You can use the weaksauce method. Then I would flash the 5.1 lolliGPE ROM. Its a well-developed rom.
vladniko said:
You can use the weaksauce method. Then I would flash the 5.1 lolliGPE ROM. Its a well-developed rom.
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Thanks for your reply. So im on 4.4.2. Ill use weaksauce, then what do you suggest for unlocking my bootloader?
I'd say firewater but I cant find the link for it
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I'd say firewater but I cant find the link for it
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firewater has been discontinued.
Hey,
Just rooted m8 verizon.
They only thing which is actually works right now it Sunshine.
You can purchase it for 25$ from here:
http://theroot.ninja/
After that, you download SuInstaller, then restart the phone.
Then - install from google play "SuperSu" app.
Enter it, choose - "normal", wait a few secs.
Thats it. You have permanent root.
Good luck, mate
Chopinko said:
Hey,
Just rooted m8 verizon.
They only thing which is actually works right now it Sunshine.
You can purchase it for 25$ from here:
http://theroot.ninja/
After that, you download SuInstaller, then restart the phone.
Then - install from google play "SuperSu" app.
Enter it, choose - "normal", wait a few secs.
Thats it. You have permanent root.
Good luck, mate
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Thanks man, sunshine it is. Will probably do it next month. Just one thing, does it work on 5.0 or should i stick around on 4.4.2?
sid3091 said:
Thanks man, sunshine it is. Will probably do it next month. Just one thing, does it work on 5.0 or should i stick around on 4.4.2?
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MUCH easier to do on 4.4.2! Run Sunshine - bingo.
On 5.0.1 (and only the earlier version 4.17.605.5 - not on the latest update 4.17.605.9, you have to downgrade to .5 to get S-Off at all) you have to jump through quite a few hoops with King Root for Sunshine to gain root long enough to S-Off.
S-Off NOW.
Then update every which way you like: OTA if you didn't change anything else, flashing a RUU or just the 5.0.1 firmware and a corresponding ROM - your choic
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MUCH easier to do on 4.4.2! Run Sunshine - bingo.
On 5.0.1 (and only the earlier version 4.17.605.5 - not on the latest update 4.17.605.9, you have to downgrade to .5 to get S-Off at all) you have to jump through quite a few hoops with King Root for Sunshine to gain root long enough to S-Off.
S-Off NOW.
Then update every which way you like: OTA if you didn't change anything else, flashing a RUU or just the 5.0.1 firmware and a corresponding ROM - your choice.
4.17.605.9 you can downgrade to 4.17.605.5
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Thanks! S-off now and a 5.0 ROM seems to be the way to go!
5.0 ROM or 5.0 OTA if you don't mind the VZW bloat. I have been putting off loading a ROM on this replacement unit because I very much like Sense and I'm waiting for some stable Sense7 ROMS that don't have a bunch of VZW caveats. Dottat has a stock ROM and a stock debloated ROM which is pretty ok.
You basically just have to pick Sense or GPE or AOSP, once you're S-OFF you really can't go wrong unless you are hasty or don't read instructions.
berndblb said:
MUCH easier to do on 4.4.2! Run Sunshine - bingo.
On 5.0.1 (and only the earlier version 4.17.605.5 - not on the latest update 4.17.605.9, you have to downgrade to .5 to get S-Off at all) you have to jump through quite a few hoops with King Root for Sunshine to gain root long enough to S-Off.
S-Off NOW.
Then update every which way you like: OTA if you didn't change anything else, flashing a RUU or just the 5.0.1 firmware and a corresponding ROM - your choic
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Hey ive finally got s-off and bootloader unlock via sunshine, but i cant seem to be able to install twrp. it just gets stuck on the entering recovery screen. Ive tried installing it via windroid and flashify(using weaksauce), but neither seems to be working. Any idea what to do?
Flash it in fastboot. If you don't know how then now is the time to learn.
cntryby429 said:
Flash it in fastboot. If you don't know how then now is the time to learn.
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Did that as well. still gets stuck at the booting into recovery screen.
sid3091 said:
Did that as well. still gets stuck at the booting into recovery screen.
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Try fastboot erase cache
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dottat said:
Try fastboot erase cache
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Hey, I tried that and still no luck. Im at my wits end here. Could it be possible that the latest version of twrp is incompatible with 4.4.2?
sid3091 said:
Hey, I tried that and still no luck. Im at my wits end here. Could it be possible that the latest version of twrp is incompatible with 4.4.2?
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Yes that could be possible. Did you try an older one?
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Yes that could be possible. Did you try an older one?
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nope. any recommendations on which version to try?
sid3091 said:
nope. any recommendations on which version to try?
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You could flash this in ruu mode or unzip and flash the recovery.img in it.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712469358
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dottat said:
You could flash this in ruu mode or unzip and flash the recovery.img in it.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712469358
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I was planning to use your RUU(pre rooted) only. Just one final confirmation, when exactly do i flash the recovery during the install of the RUU?
sid3091 said:
I was planning to use your RUU(pre rooted) only. Just one final confirmation, when exactly do i flash the recovery during the install of the RUU?
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Afterwards. The ruu doesn't contain twrp
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