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Recommendations on OTA (ATT 4.0.3/4.0/1.73)

Hey all,
I rooted my HOX (1.73, 4.0.3) with the kpenn ne-Click a few days after I got it for the Tether and to de-bloat. Since then I haven't read anything on the One X till I heard Jelly Bean coming along. Anyhoo my question is what the upside of getting the new OTA (4.0.4) would be and how I would go about it if I wanted to (I've never updated before and ATT has stopped asking me to update, also I get nothing when I try to check for an update).
I've been reading around and it seems like most people are on to 1.85 and are flashing 4.1/2.2. My primary uses of my phone are for the media applications/web browsing and I haven't noticed any real drop in performance but I have heard the new updates have sped up the HOX considerably which is something I'm always interested in.
Thanks!

DON'T flash any OTA you will lose your root and will lose your ability to re root because there is no boot loader unlock for the new base. If you want to update and flash a new ROM and want to stick to sense, look at clean rom or xi40. Both are updated on the new base and are heaps and bounds better than the original ATT software :thumbup:

Shaddy-Z. said:
DON'T flash any OTA you will lose your root and will lose your ability to re root because there is no boot loader unlock for the new base. If you want to update and flash a new ROM and want to stick to sense, look at clean rom or xi40. Both are updated on the new base and are heaps and bounds better than the original ATT software :thumbup:
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i one-clicked unrooted my phone earlier and freaked out (and the new updates didn't work out on my phone anyway). i ended up getting kpenn's one click again and putting SU back into my phone. Do you have any links that can take me on a step by step process of unlocking my phone and flashing those roms on it? I just love being able to control my phone and pushing it to its absolute limits.

Sigh. I followed the tutorial but I made a few mistakes...
1) I unlocked my phone way earlier than I should have so I wiped everything before I could make a back-up..
2) Re-locked accordingly to see if I could keep updating. I did manage to get to 1.85 like the tutorial said but.....
3) Since I didn't have a custom recovery I wasn't sure how to proceed. I couldn't get the root to flash so I tried using the 1-click 1.85 root since my phone was running 1.85.
....This ended up updating to 2.2 so now I have an unlocked HOX 2.2/4.0.4. With all the bloat.
Dumb dumb dumb. Ugh.

Pbdeng said:
Sigh. I followed the tutorial but I made a few mistakes...
1) I unlocked my phone way earlier than I should have so I wiped everything before I could make a back-up..
2) Re-locked accordingly to see if I could keep updating. I did manage to get to 1.85 like the tutorial said but.....
3) Since I didn't have a custom recovery I wasn't sure how to proceed. I couldn't get the root to flash so I tried using the 1-click 1.85 root since my phone was running 1.85.
....This ended up updating to 2.2 so now I have an unlocked HOX 2.2/4.0.4. With all the bloat.
Dumb dumb dumb. Ugh.
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it's UNLOCKED?
you're lucky then.
just push a recovery like twrp then push root. Then you can debloat.

Yep, it's still unlocked. That was around the 4-7th reset I did (I messed up a lot). Do you have a link that shows me how to do that? I'm actually not as bummed about going to 2.2 since it runs so much faster than 1.73 did.

Pbdeng said:
Yep, it's still unlocked. That was around the 4-7th reset I did (I messed up a lot). Do you have a link that shows me how to do that? I'm actually not as bummed about going to 2.2 since it runs so much faster than 1.73 did.
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make sure you have your unlock token and then go to http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/unlock-instructions/page-4/
and follow the directions.
after that look at this thread to install twrp http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777773
then this one to re-root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673935

I notice one of the links is for 1.85. Does that mean that I'll go from 2.2 back to 1.85? I just wanted to make sure since my impression from the forums is that there is no 2.2 root yet unless it was flashed.

Pbdeng said:
I notice one of the links is for 1.85. Does that mean that I'll go from 2.2 back to 1.85? I just wanted to make sure since my impression from the forums is that there is no 2.2 root yet unless it was flashed.
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no those pages just tell you how to manually install root and recovery.
your bootloader is still unlockable
unlock it
then install a recovery
then install root via that recovery

Ahh, thanks a bunch man.

Sorry if this is repetitive....
So I've checked my phone and currently it states that it is
"Re-locked"
I downloaded a recovery so it's currently on my phone. Furthermore I all ready had a copy of SU sitting in my phone's download folder.
Does this mean that I'm going to...
- Unlock bootloader (that is currently relocked) and have everything erased again.
- Reboot from recovery (of the evita 2.2.img I just downloaded with TWRP)
- Then flash the SU root I all ready have on my phone?

Pbdeng said:
Sorry if this is repetitive....
So I've checked my phone and currently it states that it is
"Re-locked"
I downloaded a recovery so it's currently on my phone. Furthermore I all ready had a copy of SU sitting in my phone's download folder.
Does this mean that I'm going to...
- Unlock bootloader (that is currently relocked) and have everything erased again.
- Reboot from recovery (of the evita 2.2.img I just downloaded with TWRP)
- Then flash the SU root I all ready have on my phone?
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yeah unlock the boot loader. set up the phone again
then install the recovery then root.
to make your unlock stick, turn off fastboot in power options, then power down phone completely then restart it to the bootloader.

Hmm, so my phone is definitely unlocked now. I installed the recovery and I manually flashedthe new SuperSU in that link you posted for me. As far as I can tell nothing is happening.
Note: It says that it installs the recovery but there is no reboot that occurs. I've done this both with the android app and manually and nothing is happening.
I don't see SuperSU and rootchecker is confirming that my phone isn't rooted yet.

so you reboot to recovery, choose the superSU package to install then what happens?
I know this works I've done it quite a few times myself.

Presently I installed the latest img file with TWRP with the app. There is not reboot that occurs (unless I'm suppose to reboot on my own?). If that's the case then I've been a total idiot.
I've just been installing the openrecovery and then I press "Flash Roms" to flash the supersu. I get a little notification that says "Preparing to Flash" and then nada.

After you install twrp recovery you reboot. Then you boot to recovery and flash the super su zip manually

Wooh! I got it to work! Thank you so much!

Pbdeng said:
Wooh! I got it to work! Thank you so much!
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No problemmo.

Does this also mean that I can flash any ROMs I want on my phone now?

Yes. But you will have to flash kernels aka boot.img separately using fast boot.

[Q] Root trouble after updates (JB and Moonshine S-Off)

Hey sorry to bother you but you seem like a guru in almost every Android topic but i have an issue at hand.
I have a HTC One SV from Boost Mobile. At first i was running ICS with root and CWM as my recovery, as your aware the JB update came out and i really wanted to update so i did the method from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...0&postcount=18 i was successful in the update, i did not check if i still had roost after the update. So i also noticed that there was a moonshine s-off method available and i proceeded with the method and successfully removed s-off. I also noticed that by doing the s-off method it also included root; so then i decided to check if root survived but i come to find out that i lost it. My original root i was using was ChainsDD superuser and the moonshine uses SuperSU, what options can i do in order to fix and gain root again? or did the JellyBean update patched root access?

monkijuan said:
Hey sorry to bother you but you seem like a guru in almost every Android topic but i have an issue at hand.
I have a HTC One SV from Boost Mobile. At first i was running ICS with root and CWM as my recovery, as your aware the JB update came out and i really wanted to update so i did the method from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...0&postcount=18 i was successful in the update, i did not check if i still had roost after the update. So i also noticed that there was a moonshine s-off method available and i proceeded with the method and successfully removed s-off. I also noticed that by doing the s-off method it also included root; so then i decided to check if root survived but i come to find out that i lost it. My original root i was using was ChainsDD superuser and the moonshine uses SuperSU, what options can i do in order to fix and gain root again? or did the JellyBean update patched root access?
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Did you flash a recovery like cwm or twrp, after the jb update?

old.splatterhand said:
Did you flash a recovery like cwm or twrp, after the jb update?
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yes i i flashed the CWM recovery for JB but originally it had the CWM ICS recovery, i dont know if that makes a difference.

monkijuan said:
yes i flashed the recovery out from the OTA zip file
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You need custom recovery for boost, look here.
From within the custom recovery you should be able to flash something like this.
This should bring you Supersu app & SU binaries.

old.splatterhand said:
You need custom recovery for boost, look here.
From within the custom recovery you should be able to flash something like this.
This should bring you Supersu app & SU binaries.
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OMG!! I have ROOT once again!! Thank you so much for the information and for turning me on to TWRP, i love how the system is set up. Kudos my friend.
God live XDA-Developers!

I'm glad, it worked for you :good:

New M8 with update

hey guys i just got a new htc m8 i got the new firmware update for it but i havnt installed it yet and was wondering if the htc tool kit would still work with it to root it or if there was an easier method for it now thx in advance

Bierce22 said:
hey guys i just got a new htc m8 i got the new firmware update for it but i havnt installed it yet and was wondering if the htc tool kit would still work with it to root it or if there was an easier method for it now thx in advance
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From what I have seen, you cannot have just root on 4.4.3. Verizon has patched that exploit. The only way to have root on 4.4.3 is to be s-off and unlocked.
With that being the case, if you choose to go s-off route, I would try and s-off with 4.4.2 version using firewater to see if that works first. If that does not work, you will need to use sunshine and pay $25 to get s-off and then you can root your device using a couple of different methods. Sunshine will work on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 so it would not matter if you updated your phone before or after.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I have been reading.

jsaxon2 said:
From what I have seen, you cannot have just root on 4.4.3. Verizon has patched that exploit. The only way to have root on 4.4.3 is to be s-off and unlocked.
With that being the case, if you choose to go s-off route, I would try and s-off with 4.4.2 version using firewater to see if that works first. If that does not work, you will need to use sunshine and pay $25 to get s-off and then you can root your device using a couple of different methods. Sunshine will work on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 so it would not matter if you updated your phone before or after.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I have been reading.
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okay i finally managed to get s off using the firewater method but im confused on were to go from here

Bierce22 said:
okay i finally managed to get s off using the firewater method but im confused on were to go from here
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Are you looking to just root your stock rom or installing custom rom's?

jsaxon2 said:
From what I have seen, you cannot have just root on 4.4.3. Verizon has patched that exploit. The only way to have root on 4.4.3 is to be s-off and unlocked.
With that being the case, if you choose to go s-off route, I would try and s-off with 4.4.2 version using firewater to see if that works first. If that does not work, you will need to use sunshine and pay $25 to get s-off and then you can root your device using a couple of different methods. Sunshine will work on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 so it would not matter if you updated your phone before or after.
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I have been reading.
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jsaxon2 said:
Are you looking to just root your stock rom or installing custom rom's?
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i actually dont mind sense right now i just came from an s3 with cm11 so its a nice change i just want permanent root and a recovery for now my main concern is its wanting to update it to 4.3 i delayed it untill tomorow but im not sure if that would ruin everything

Bierce22 said:
i actually dont mind sense right now i just came from an s3 with cm11 so its a nice change i just want permanent root and a recovery for now my main concern is its wanting to update it to 4.3 i delayed it untill tomorow but im not sure if that would ruin everything
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You are fine to let it update. You will not loose s-off.
What I would do is let it update, then I would install a custom recovery, TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717928. You can download the image and try this to install:
You will need temp root to install recovery with Flashify. Sunshine http://theroot.ninja/ will allow you temproot when you run it, install flashify and flash recovery.
Once recovery is installed, flash SuperSU.zip
If that does not work, follow this to install.
Download the above file into your platform-tools dir.
Turn off your device.
Turn on the device and keep holding volume down until a menu shows up.
Select fastboot from the menu list.
Plug the device into your computer.
If you have the right drivers installed, your screen should now say FASTBOOT USB.
Run the following command via the command line:
fastboot flash recovery recoveryfilename.img
Note that you will need to change the last part to match the name of the file that you just downloaded. This method requires that you have the drivers installed that come with the HTC Sync software that are available here. You will also need adb and fastboot for your computer.
Next you could install the SuperSU zip through recovery from here: http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip. Here is the thread if you have questions on SuperSU. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Boom, you are stock HTC Sense w/Android 4.4.3 with root.
You can stay on stock from there or flash a custom rom that already has root built in.

jsaxon2 said:
You are fine to let it update. You will not loose s-off.
What I would do is let it update, then I would install a custom recovery, TWRP from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2717928. You can download the image and try this to install:
You will need temp root to install recovery with Flashify. Sunshine http://theroot.ninja/ will allow you temproot when you run it, install flashify and flash recovery.
Once recovery is installed, flash SuperSU.zip
If that does not work, follow this to install.
Download the above file into your platform-tools dir.
Turn off your device.
Turn on the device and keep holding volume down until a menu shows up.
Select fastboot from the menu list.
Plug the device into your computer.
If you have the right drivers installed, your screen should now say FASTBOOT USB.
Run the following command via the command line:
fastboot flash recovery recoveryfilename.img
Note that you will need to change the last part to match the name of the file that you just downloaded. This method requires that you have the drivers installed that come with the HTC Sync software that are available here. You will also need adb and fastboot for your computer.
Next you could install the SuperSU zip through recovery from here: http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip. Here is the thread if you have questions on SuperSU. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Boom, you are stock HTC Sense w/Android 4.4.3 with root.
You can stay on stock from there or flash a custom rom that already has root built in.
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sweet i managed to get trwp using fastboot method is there a clean sense rom debloated that i can use that has an updater and cpu stuff like cyanogen?

[Q] Help: Accidentally let the OTA through

Hi everyone,
I've got a Verizon HTC One M8 that was at Android 4.4.3, and which I have used Sunshine to get s-off so that I could use SUinstaller and get a basic rooting of my phone. I run it using the Xposed Framework and Greenify, so I kinda need root to make those effective.
Anyway, I've been touching "Update Later" for a few weeks now, waiting until I had time to sit down and figure out what I had to do to keep root when I took the update to 4.4.4. Unfortunately the dialog box surprised me this morning when I was going to do something else, and I ended up accidentally hitting the "Update Now" button.
As I got s-off with Sunshine, I assume getting root back isn't gonna be that difficult, but I just don't know how to.
Is there an app to give me root again? Do I need to flash a ROM? I want to keep it pretty stock, I don't necessarily want a custom ROM, and I want to be able to use this new Eye Experience thing that they've added.
Thanks to anyone that decides to help me out,
Chris

Flash twrp then flash su through recovery and wala..and u can then flash back the stock recovery if you wanna be ready for the next ota
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ChrisRevocateur said:
Hi everyone,
I've got a Verizon HTC One M8 that was at Android 4.4.3, and which I have used Sunshine to get s-off so that I could use SUinstaller and get a basic rooting of my phone. I run it using the Xposed Framework and Greenify, so I kinda need root to make those effective.
Anyway, I've been touching "Update Later" for a few weeks now, waiting until I had time to sit down and figure out what I had to do to keep root when I took the update to 4.4.4. Unfortunately the dialog box surprised me this morning when I was going to do something else, and I ended up accidentally hitting the "Update Now" button.
As I got s-off with Sunshine, I assume getting root back isn't gonna be that difficult, but I just don't know how to.
Is there an app to give me root again? Do I need to flash a ROM? I want to keep it pretty stock, I don't necessarily want a custom ROM, and I want to be able to use this new Eye Experience thing that they've added.
Thanks to anyone that decides to help me out,
Chris
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All you to do is use ADB commands on your computer. Just unlock the bootloader. Then flash zip for twrp. Once you do that, install a rom. But u may be thinking, maybe I need root. And the answer is TWRP automatically roots your phone because it installs all the Supersu binaries to your phone. Hoped this helped. If it didn't, just ignore it.

Robby_Rimal said:
All you to do is use ADB commands on your computer. Just unlock the bootloader. Then flash zip for twrp. Once you do that, install a rom. But u may be thinking, maybe I need root. And the answer is TWRP automatically roots your phone because it installs all the Supersu binaries to your phone. Hoped this helped. If it didn't, just ignore it.
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Totally not applicable. Guessing you aren't a vzw user? Op is s off via sunshine. Sunshine unlocks bootloader and turns s off. Op needs to simply flash twrp and latest su.zip. Also, on vzw you can't unlock bootloader unless s off. We don't get to HTC dev here... And besides, once s off, what does it matter if locked or unlocked?
Second post in this thread hit the nail on the head. @MotoTurbo

dottat said:
Totally not applicable. Guessing you aren't a vzw user? Op is s off via sunshine. Sunshine unlocks bootloader and turns s off. Op needs to simply flash twrp and latest su.zip. Also, on vzw you can't unlock bootloader unless s off. We don't get to HTC dev here... And besides, once s off, what does it matter if locked or unlocked?
Second post in this thread hit the nail on the head. @MotoTurbo
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An unlocked bootloader will let you install different roms that are not sense. Like cyanogenmod, paranoid android, and that snazz. And yes I am on dh's android 5 lollipop ROM. I am on the vzw m8. I have the latest 4.4.4 firmware with digital Hugh's "custom firmware" flashed through fastboot. Thank you very much dottat.

Robby_Rimal said:
An unlocked bootloader will let you install different roms that are not sense. Like cyanogenmod, paranoid android, and that snazz. And yes I am on dh's android 5 lollipop ROM. I am on the vzw m8. I have the latest 4.4.4 firmware with digital Hugh's "custom firmware" flashed through fastboot. Thank you very much dottat.
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I don't think you understood my post.

the original post stated S-OFF via sunshine. this means bootlocker unlocked and S-OFF. VRZN doesn't allow free bootloader unlock via htcdev.
if this 4.4.4 release via OTA, then firmware updated (this is good). since still S-OFF, just flash lastest TWRP img (via fastboot) and install ROM (VenomONE v3.0 -- if you have 4.4.4 firmware).
you still be good to go... -GA

Yep I had the same question.
If you're S-Off, you should have stayed S-Off. Flash a custom recovery(e.g. TWRP), download Chainfire's SuperSU, and flash it to your phone.

Can somebody please help me with something?

I have my M8 with S-OFF (Paid for Sunshine) and it is temporarily rooted with KingRoot. I'm just confused on what I need to do next to get fully rooted so I can start flashing some ROMS! I tried to install TWRP with the app but it doesn't seem to work and it just boots into the standard recovery mode and NOT TWRP.
So, where do I go after having S-OFF and temp root?
I would greatly appreciate anybodies help here, I've rooted several devices before but nothing has been harder or more confusing then rooting the m8 on 5.0.1!
Thanks in advance!

MTN927 said:
I have my M8 with S-OFF (Paid for Sunshine) and it is temporarily rooted with KingRoot. I'm just confused on what I need to do next to get fully rooted so I can start flashing some ROMS! I tried to install TWRP with the app but it doesn't seem to work and it just boots into the standard recovery mode and NOT TWRP.
So, where do I go after having S-OFF and temp root?
I would greatly appreciate anybodies help here, I've rooted several devices before but nothing has been harder or more confusing then rooting the m8 on 5.0.1!
Thanks in advance!
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Flash twrp with fastboot and push/flash SuperSU in twrp.
--beaups
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I'm having trouble finding some good directions on that stuff...

I'm trying to run the WinDroid program to flash twrp, it reboots the phone into fastboot but then WinDroid just says rebooting device and doesn't seem to get passed that. Should I just wait?

MTN927 said:
I'm trying to run the WinDroid program to flash twrp, it reboots the phone into fastboot but then WinDroid just says rebooting device and doesn't seem to get passed that. Should I just wait?
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Shouldn't use apps like that. Just flash it with fastboot manually.
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beaups said:
Shouldn't use apps like that. Just flash it with fastboot manually.
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This is where I'm not finding any good directions for these steps, as far as how to do the command prompts.

OK finally got TWRP installed, can I flash SU from the SU app?

You flash SuperSU from within twrp.
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MTN, I know this can be frustrating for a newbie. There are plenty of walkthroughs, and I'm sure everyone else will tell you to google, but for the sake of being concise, here's the scoop:
1. Make sure you have ADB installed.
2. Go to your ADB prompt and make sure your device is showing up (need the HTC drivers installed) by doing:
adb devices
3. Reboot into fastboot:
adb reboot bootloader
4. Flash TWRP:
fastboot flash recovery twrp####.zip
5. Once you've got TWRP installed, you reboot INTO TWRP (full recovery) and let it patch your system because if you don't it will be overwritten. As follows:
- Reboot with VolDwn held.
- From bootloader, pick "recovery".
- Wait for TWRP to come up.
6. Once TWRP is in, drop supersu package ZIP (get the latest one, careful here!) into a directory, boot into TWRP, and install it.
Boom, your device is completely rooted.
But I think that the thing that you need to understand is that "rooted" only applies to the current ROM. Rooting isn't a magic thing - it simply means that you have root privilege on the current OS. It is separate from firmware, bootloader, etc. which all also have to be flashed/loaded/updated depending on what you are doing. There probably ought to be a newbie page somewhere that explains to people what each thing is. The ROM is essentially the same as whatever version of windows/linux/etc. you have on your home computer. It has nothing to do with the hardware, the firmware, or the bootloader.
On my phone, I followed the above procedure, but then proceeded to download and install a clean ROM that was pre-rooted. Then later I put back the stock Verizon ROM and had to reapply root. I then later removed root to return the phone to verizon for service. But I didn't uninstall Root, I simply flashed on a non-rooted ROM.
Does that make sense?