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what do you think about this phone?
Pretty incredible. I guess this is still single core though?
rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
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rumors.. rumors.. rumors...
Where is the dual hd projectors?
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I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
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I head it will mow your lawn and change the oil in your car too. Spread the word..
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Damn...sign me up..I got a 4 car and 1 SUV household to change the oil on and over 1 acre of yard to mow
Mac
I'd honestly be much more excited to see samsung commit to gingerbread for its current (and still top of the market) generation
I appreciate the bump of the screen to "4.3 in" I tested my friend's droid x, and I like how "full" it feels XD
This speculation looks cool, but even if it is "real" it would most likely be push back to like Q4 of 2011, Honestly Samsung has pushed back Froyo so much. Those stats look great but they really need to work with their software to enhance android OS for their Hummingbird CPU architecture. The snapdragon Cpu is so enhanced with Froyo, hopefully Gingerbread... hopin... the actual device looks great though. I like the slate design.
Me wants.
Me drools
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
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Cool. But it's so worthless.
the 1ghz hummingbird processor is fast enough for EVERYTHING.
And the design.. it's nothing special. All these phones are looking for and more alike (iphone shape-ish). They need to create something a bit more fancy.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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I must say I think the captivate it one of the best looking phones out.
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I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
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Agreed. I want to buy the Otterbox case when it comes out, but I really don't want to cover up the phone's good looks with it. The checkering on the back cover looks really great. And it's so slim! This is a dilemma of great proportions.
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Yeah I wont be throwing a case on this bad boy. I was actually going to look into maybe clear coating this thing or something just to give it a little resiliance but since I have insurance ill just rma a new one if gets too beat up
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I'm not a really big fan of the Captivate's design. All the curves just end up wasting space for no particular reason other than to look cool while at the same time making it so different from other phones that there are far, far fewer accessories available for us than pretty much any other 2.1/2.2 Android phone.
I like that CGI mockup of a possible Galaxy S2, it's minimalist and would be very well suited to having an aftermarket case, unlike ours, which tend to look way too rounded after putting on a case.
The thing I'm most interested in is if the AT&T version of the phone will again be a stripped down, gimped, bloatware-filled version of the international version. I will not buy another smartphone until there is one available that has a FFC and a flash. I think it's pretty silly to go through the trouble of redesigning the entire outer casing of the phone while removing features. You're just spending more money for less (it costs far more to make a separate production line for new bodies than it does to simply keep the FFC in; as we've all seen from the Vibrant mods, the FFC assembly is DIRT CHEAP).
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to me I think the phone shouldn't look like it needs to be covered up with a case. I'm not so sure I understand where your coming from on the design/ accessories issue as I really have not noticed us lacking something other phones have but I really don't keep up with that stuff. I agree about the flash and FFC. I was a little disappointed when I saw a flash was not included.
Can only dream...
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Quite impressed but I agree with the author - instead of focusing on putting out faster processors that barely make a difference with the apps that we have, they should really work on increasing battery life. If the 2ghz makes the battery last a shorter time than my Captivate then it just isn't worth it. I'd much rather have the same specs we have now but with a battery that can last 2 full days with normal use instead of one. I'm not saying I'm unhappy with my current battery life, it easily gets me through a day, but I'd prefer to only charge every other day if the option was there.
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Yeah. I'm with Lee on this one. If it is single core, aps will open marginally quicker with the performance limiter being the wireless network. The only benefit I can see if multitasking. I foresee a 2ghz single core phone having poor performance in battery life. A dual core properly architectured can come out with similar battery performance to single. I wish Samsung would focus on improving the current product, and understand the fact that their phones have to be hacked...not to overclock, or over perform; but to make the phone perform the way the hardware allows it to. Not what the software limits it to. I am sure they formatted the drives to preserve the battery life, and not hit the processor so hard, but hey if you roll out a 1GHZ CPU, it should run like a 1GHZ CPU. I love the hardware and look forward to an official release of Froyo. Until then the leaked version with lag fix works great for me. (GPS and all)
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As far as bettery life is concerned I doubt it will make a huge impact. From what I've read the dual core designs don't really require much more power than their single core counterparts so I imagine they would have a 2ghz CPU designed similarly in efficiency. I'm with the idea though that it sounds like overkill but if you put the hardware out someone will find a way to use it. With this phone being as fast as it is ill imagine ill be able to ride out my contract with it no problem. I like having the latest and greatest but if nothing really takes advantage of it before the next Gen comes out its not worth it. It is amazing to see the strides these smartphones are taking.
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I hear the sound of a veteran over zealous overclocker. Let me check, what bridge (s) for pencil overclock?
I just want a higher resolution display. Not to sound like an apple fanboy but what the heck was Samsung thinking? I can see the pixels so clearly on this display (maybe cause its super amoled )
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When I get back around beginning 2013, what is your speculation of the phone I will be to get.
Ie: I'm feeling I will be able to get a phone with a 4.8 inch 720p screen, quad core, 1.5gb ram. It will have 64gb internal memory (because as nice as the cloud is, it does NOT work in all the places the military works.)
It will have a sd card slot, 3000mhz minimum battery, and will feature actual stereo speakers (on the back in landscape mode)
I honestly do not care about the thinness, but hopefully around the same thickness as a Droid Charge.
A small Bezel on top and bottom, (for holding) and a minimal Bezel on the sides. The camera won't have more than 10mp, but will be better engineered to not suck ass. The FFC will be 5mp.
Soft keys only on the screen, and there WILL be an actual camera button with 2 stages.
Bootloader will be un encrypted (because that's the problem).
Also, will be a Verizon device.
What are your hopes for an actual early 2013 device?
Not sure. Just wanted to say stay safe and thanks for your service.
we all wish that type of phone could come out, 3000mah ? noway the manufacturers dont care. it will probably have some newer screen like that does a whole load of things we dont need. octuplet core or even more.. in reality phones will have less features we need like improved battery and more things we dont like extra processing power.
There's only 1 phone that fits most of your needs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBTc3gn7jBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r_RqSYxTwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrh_EwFaZ7I
Q3 of this year will have a version with LTE service and the Krait S4 Pro quad core chip, not that that actually matters performance wise. -shrug-
Phone is 64gb, 1 microSD slot, 1 SD slot, 2 usb ports
Total of 103 hours of talk time
1 sim card, 1 media sync, 1 contract and data plan. 3 devices.
Good luck on your deployment and be safe.
Thank you for your services. As far as phones go, the HTC One X/S will be out
The X will be sporting a quad core processor. Though, by the time you get back there will probably be more with it lol
Don't worry about the phones mate. Stay alive and stay mentally healthy and XDA will be here waiting for you to greet you when you return.
I think when you return, the new Nexus might be out. Who knows what it'll sport? Also look forward to the next big update for Windows Phones (i.e., sporting 4 resolutions support, etc).
I don't know what it is like to be in the military, but thank you for your service.
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Don't worry about the phones mate. Stay alive and stay mentally healthy and XDA will be here waiting for you to greet you when you return.
I think when you return, the new Nexus might be out. Who knows what it'll sport? Also look forward to the next big update for Windows Phones (i.e., sporting 4 resolutions support, etc).
I don't know what it is like to be in the military, but thank you for your service.
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Thanks for the support. This will be deployment number three, first to Afghanistan.
I have my safety as my first priority, but would like to hear all thoughts on what will be out Q1 2013.
As to the new Nexus, I just hope big V gets it again.
And it has a camera button.
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Most awaited Galaxy S3 Is hopefully coming next month...
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Well, the story goes like this. I ordered the One S originally for my contract upgrade but read some doom and gloom reviews regarding the screen so changed to the one X at no extra cost. I prefer the look and the materials used in the One S.
To my suprise, the One S still came. I asked Three if I could have a little play and they said it was fine as long as I didn't put the sim card in it.
The phone is absolutely stunning. It's razor thin design and solid build quality make it the most impressive phone I have handled to date. The MAO process used on the housing has a unique finish to it which is grippy as well as gorgeous, and makes the phone feel like it could survive thermo-nuclear war.
One of the reasons I changed to the One X was the chipping issue. I have been brave and actually (fairly gently) hit the edges of the phone against my class desk. Tapping it in such a hard surface I would have assumed would chip the phone if a defect was present, and it weathered it without any marks, luckily for me. I have heard chips start appearing after the first week of use though, so don't take my word as gospel when I say it hasn't affected this unit.
Another reason for me scrapping my One S dreams was the reviews of the screen. Several websites I trust said the screen was low quality and you could easily see individual pixels. Now this was personally my biggest turn off for the One S... I spend a lot of time browsing the web on my phone so even minor pixalation would piss me off, however I'm pleased to say the screen is stunning. The only trademarks of a pentile display I noticed was very very faint jagged edges on straight lines during screen animations, not a deal killer for me as text was wonderful.
Finally the performance of the One S has blown me away. It's dual-core snapdragon S4 is a brilliant CPU and coupled with the Adreno 220 GPU everything ran smooth like a hot knife through butter.
My conclusion? As an average user, ignore the doom and gloom about the screen. There are some incredibly minor jagged edges on transition efects but apart from that I loved it. Battery life seems to be impressive too, I have had it since 10 AM this morning and it is midnight now and is on 30% charge, and I've been using this phone a lot, however without any sort of 3g radio turned on, only WiFi. If you love the look of this phone, buy it. It feels amazing.
too bad there is no nfc and its mid 2012
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too bad there is no nfc and its mid 2012
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>implying that nfc is some kind of must-have feature in 2012
I really don't think it is. Maybe next year.
NFC is useful. But not much implemented. I won't miss it the next 2-3 years I imagine. Nothing to ***** about imho.
I've had my MOA S since Friday afternoon, and I'm very satisfied with it so far. I have to agree with most observations in this review. It's spot on!
As for chipping, I've not noticed any on my device yet, apart from a little around (more like inside) the usb port. But then I have not taken much care when plugging in either, so I'm not surprised it has a little worn look there.
It feels secure and good to the grip, and the screen is perfectly adequate for a phone. I'm not using this device as a replacement for my HD TV-set or for image manipulation
Two things I would have wished for as a personal preference is bigger battery (even at a cost of a couple of millimeters thicker body and more weight) and a smaller screen. 4" had been enough with this hardware to be a great phone
I don't see NFC as a big part of technology in 2012. Maybe after the premier handsets have it and then it starts rolling out, that will be when I care if a phone has NFC or not. I certainly don't mind at all that the HTC One S isn't a pioneer in NFC technology.
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too bad there is no nfc and its mid 2012
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To be fair, have you even been able to use NFC for anything productive?
I have been using a Bold 9900 for the last 5 months and the ONLY thing I have used NFC for is getting a free cadburys cream egg from a promotional stand at a bus stop in reading.
And in the UK you can only use NFC for payments under £15, which in my case is usually just a drink or lunch, both of which I would usually pay for in loose change, not with my card, so NFC is, in my opinion, an entirely worthless feature in 2012.
It could be great, but currently it has no use and I don't see why any phone ships with it currently apart from to entice businesses into finding more uses for it as the user base grows.
For the screen, the pixel is visible if the text is written in white. ( under the icon.
It is less visible in the browser as the text is in black.
I ve put my desire s in front of the one s and the desire s screen is sharper.
The one s could have been the best device with an hd screen to me.
I just think when u are buying a new and nice device, its nice to have it future proof considering most top of the line phones do have nfc....galaxy nexus, one x, Sony phones, and gs3 will most likely have it too.
nfc is not just for payments. tags are pretty cool and useful.
I don't have nfc and never used it, but sure wouldn't mind trying it out
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I just think when u are buying a new and nice device, its nice to have it future proof considering most top of the line phones do have nfc....galaxy nexus, one x, Sony phones, and gs3 will most likely have it too.
nfc is not just for payments. tags are pretty cool and useful.
I don't have nfc and never used it, but sure wouldn't mind trying it out
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The One S is not a top of the line phone, it's a mid end device. Bare that in mind when you talk about future proofing. Most people on these forums will update their phones once a year or so, I personally upgrade every 6 months sometimes. NFC will not be big this year, nor probably next. It's not something that has started trending yet, and when it does I suspect it will explode and then die out again, because it's really not as useful as people like to make out.
So yeah, most top end phones have it now, but this is not a top end phone. And our countries like to future proof their nuclear defenses, but it's not like anyone is going to fire a nuke at us any time soon. Same goes with NFC...
P.S, I went for the One X in the end
I see NFC more useful with tags rather then its easy payment feature.
maybe its not what i actually think it is and using Tasker is just as convenient if not better. But it sure nice to have automated tasks, i use this feature ALOT
Isn't nfc just asking for trouble security loopholes'
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The One S is not a top of the line phone, it's a mid end device. Bare that in mind when you talk about future proofing. Most people on these forums will update their phones once a year or so, I personally upgrade every 6 months sometimes. NFC will not be big this year, nor probably next. It's not something that has started trending yet, and when it does I suspect it will explode and then die out again, because it's really not as useful as people like to make out.
So yeah, most top end phones have it now, but this is not a top end phone. And our countries like to future proof their nuclear defenses, but it's not like anyone is going to fire a nuke at us any time soon. Same goes with NFC...
P.S, I went for the One X in the end
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Hmm I do not really agree.
First point: The One S is maybe promoted by HTC as the mid end device but this for sure only is for them. It is faster than any other smartphone (even the high class One X) and when you compare it to other producers devices, the One S has to be compared to the power horses of those (and beats them)..
Second: nfc doesn't has to be big to be useful. You are right that it needs to be spread for some fancy and useful services like payment or I dunno but actually people owning the new Sonys are playing around with the tags a lot and producing interesting ideas. For example: tags placed at your appartements entrance that tell your phone how to behave (sound profile, wifi, alerts, tasks etc..) if you pass it, depending on leaving (profile 1) or entering (profile 2).
I agree that it's not a must have for me, but certainly a nice to have and it would've been realistic to implement it in the One S or at least the X, which is the top class and doesn't have it either.
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This is how I look at it....out of Built quality (theoretically goes to S), Screen quality, NFC, SD-Card slot, and Removable battery, I would choose like this:
1. Screen quality
2. Built quality
3. NFC
4 and 5. SD Card and Removable battery < this is just something I never care about
This is likely to be first time in 7 years i haven't upgraded my phone upon a handset refresh.
I'm a terrible phone whore with very little loyalty to brand, i like to own the best phone of the moment and hop between manufacturers. I'd imagine most people on here do the same, with the exception of the insanely irreverent fanboys. Recently (Last 2 years) i've owned.. S2, iPhone 4S, S3, HTC One X and Nexus 4. (Also throw in a couple of dips to Sony and Windows Mobile for brief periods).
First of all, the S4 and the HTC One look like cracking devices. In my eyes they both have positives and negatives and if push came to shove and somebody forced me by gunpoint to pick one, i'd be hard pressed to make a decision.. Perhaps S4 but only because of the battery life and timely updates.. There really is little in it.. Anyone who thinks so is only splitting hairs.
If you're sat using an S2 or a mobile a good 2 years old i can truly appreciate what a jump that the S4 or HTC One to be for you. But if you're the kind of person who upgrades over a 12 month period, there really is little to excite at the moment.
I can't help but feel disappointing..
CPU:
This is the most frustrating topic... We've been steadily increasing in power with little gains in power management, Nvidia tried their best with that '5th core' but ultimately left us all wanting... I'd say the biggest single concern for most smartphone users is battery life now, struggling to make it through a heavy day is part and parcel of owning a mobile.
We are so very close to big.LITTLE kicking in and it seems to be that Samsung and HTC kicked off a little early, shown by the (almost complete) lack of availability of their Exynos variant..
If i bought the S4 or HTC One i'd feel almost cheated if the rumored battery performance of the upcoming CPUs in this segment are anything to go by.
Screen:
Mobile phone addiction aside, one of my other rather 'nerdy' fascination is with audio visual kit, much to my wifes misery.. Screen quality is undoubtedly a big thing for me, yet even i struggle to justify the move from a 720p resolution to a 1080p resolution on a screen only 4.7-5" big..
I've seen the HTC One in person and while i will confess at close proximity i can distinguish the difference, it is by no means the jump the market departments of said companies would like you to think.. I'd go as far to say that most (myself included) would struggle to notice the difference between the two during regular daily use.
LTE:
This is less the mobile manufacturers fault and more the networks but 4G coverage is absolutely woeful when you consider the mass rollout of hardware to utilize. I always thought the S3 LTE was pointless but was convinced this was the early warning sign the governments / networks needed to shift into gear, it doesn't appear to have happened. It's like giving everybody a Bugatti Veyron and telling them they're only allowed to drive it in speed limited residential areas..
I've got friends in the states and U.K and despite the rather gut-wrenching price they pay for LTE price plans, the performance seems poor. I do think we are a good year away from 4G being a realistic benefit to the average consumer, with small pockets of countries experiencing early gains if they live in the capital.
The only positive i can take away from all this is my other half does not have to watch me trawl through reviews, debate the best deal and then watch me giddy on the day of delivery...
Here's hopping next year is a little better!
Have to agree with this, nothing special so far
@OP ( dont wanna quote the whole post lol), trust me when i say that i am one of the biggest phone junkies around, i owned almost all of the flagship of 2012 and plan on owning quite a few in 2013. I see what you're saying when you say " meh" cause phones like the nexus 4, S3, Optimus G and note 2 are already mighty powerful but i think this is where samsung and HTC lead the pack and differentiate themselves with other brands. HTC came out with the best design a phone ever had ( in my opinion) and fantastic sound quality while samsung is expanding its crazy awesome features ( gimmicky for some, absolutely great for me). Its hard to outdo the great phones that came out last year so my question is what did you expect?
I think you need to find more hobbies/occupations in your life tbh.
But to be honest, we are at a point where technology, and especially phones are improving at a very systematical and incremental ways.
Slightly better processor
Slightly better camera
Slightly better screen
Slightly better battery
Really, we will be stuck on this pattern until something revolutionary comes into the mobile market.
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But to be honest, we are at a point where technology, and especially phones are improving at a very systematical and incremental ways.
Slightly better processor
Slightly better camera
Slightly better screen
Slightly better battery
Really, we will be stuck on this pattern until something revolutionary comes into the mobile market.
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Yeah, but with all that, there's a lot that's looked over. Like if you have a Samsung Smart TV you can stream what is on your TV to your phoen anywhere you go.
We now have a IR controller with a built in TV Guide. Built in reminder to remind you also. Links to Rotten Tomatoes for movies.
There's a lot more. I just don't know what is revolutionary anymore. The problem is other technology has to catch up, like TVs, Amplifiers and audio receivers, car GPS, etc. The only thing the phone can do now is control and interact with other things.
What can honestly be revolutionary with current technology and our phones now?
How about work on voice call clarity. This quality has been the same Damn thing since the nokia brick phones lol
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How about work on voice call clarity. This quality has been the same Damn thing since the nokia brick phones lol
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The thing is in a day I make max 20 min call time but day in day out 4+hours screen time, iyam this is the norm so this dictates developments, so I bet we get stuck with ok call quality.
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The thing is in a day I make max 20 min call time but day in day out 4+hours screen time, iyam this is the norm so this dictates developments, so I bet we get stuck with ok call quality.
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20 min the norm? Speak for yourself.
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20 min the norm? Speak for yourself.
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I know but how about getting a different phone if your prime use is phoning, like a 2g that'll give you 2/3 days, or if you're making calls while indoors plug it in or use a land line, flagship smartphones are computing devices not really phones any more.
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This is likely to be first time in 7 years i haven't upgraded my phone upon a handset refresh.
I'm a terrible phone whore with very little loyalty to brand...!
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While I agree that the upgrades in the GS4 are barely a full generation ahead of the GS3, which is unfortunate given how much a jump the GS2 was over the GS1, and how much the GS1 was ahead of anything else at its time... there is a sort-of point about diminishing returns here as well. It's harder to "improve" certain aspects but so much, as we're beginning to hit the limits of what can even be perceived as an upgrade.
I mean, think about the screen. Very low res -> QVGA -> WVGA -> 720p -> 1080p. Well that's great, but for the next generation, where do you go? There's really no perceivable need to put anything higher into a sub 5" device. Maybe flexible screens? Unbreakable screens? etc etc? That's still not gonna actually increase the photonic information presented to your eyes from the device.
Or take the physical phone body. The GS4 is pushing the screen so far that it's easily covering 80-90% of the entire front surface area. So okay, next gen, you make the entire front surface a screen. Then what? Make the phone thinner? Well, at a certain point you hit a limit there as well. People can only grasp and comfortably hold objects of up to a certain depth. When you get it smaller than that, you're basically just printing a screen onto a knife blade. So that's no good...
Let's try connectivity. LTE and 802.11ac? Most cell networks couldn't saturate their LTE links if they tried, they simply don't have the capacity yet. And even if they did... You're telling me you can even find a use-case where your phone is pumping out/in 100+ mbit/s of data? I mean, at home it's nice to move music/videos/files around sure. But I highly doubt anyone is routinely moving gigabytes of data per hour on any sort of mobile device. Once you hit what you need for say HD video streaming... where else is there to go? Again, the next generation doesn't really need to move data any faster than this.
Sensors? Well, there's actually lots of room for improvement here. And also, un-coincidentally, this is where the GS4 has some the of greatest advantage over other current/last generation devices. While we're still pretty far away from a proper tricorder, we can now sense via magnetometer, accelerometer, gyroscope, light sensor, infrared sensor, microphones, thermometer, hydrometer, barometer, and two cameras... But building sensors isn't the hard part. It's building clever software to do something with these sensors.
I could go on further... but the point I should think is clear. Yea, it's a bit disappointing that nothing since the original GS1/GS2 has really been a full "generation and a half" ahead of the competition... but a large portion of that is simply because we're beginning to hit the ceiling with some of these improvements. Yea, in 20 years "phones" will be unpredictably evolved from what we have now. But I bet the screens still won't have any higher effective PPI than what we're approaching now...
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posting to hit 10 posts so I can actually post in development section....wth.....
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Wrong and wrong.
1) There's a reason you need to post elsewhere first.
2) The fact that you say "what the hell" to that requirement further shows you are not yet ready to post in development.
3) Spamming random unrelated comments into random threads is not the way to reach the 10 post minimum
I suggest you start by reading the rules and the stickies.
Have a nice day, and welcome to XDA.
Im only getting it becuase i wanted a smaller note 2 with no spen. The s4 gives me that with plenty of horsepower. Plus the 32gb $250 price point is a good sell. If the htc one had a replaceable battery it would of been a no brainer based on design alone.
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posting to hit 10 posts so I can actually post in development section....wth.....
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*Face palm* If there's one place where you never post something like that, it's XDA. The moderators here take people who break the rules pretty seriously.
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I wish we could have a revolutionary phone come out like the Galaxy SII did. Even today, Galaxy SII is unsurpassed with performance. Is there any app or game that it can't run? I mean, it came out nearly 2 years ago, and still has not been matched by an app.
I hope Galaxy SV comes in the way of the revolution.
Euthye said:
I know but how about getting a different phone if your prime use is phoning, like a 2g that'll give you 2/3 days, or if you're making calls while indoors plug it in or use a land line, flagship smartphones are computing devices not really phones any more.
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I never said my prime use is phone calls. I just said 20 min is not the norm. And again where do you get your information. No matter what phone whether it is a dumb phone or smart phone, one of the main focus of a phone period involves making phone calls. Otherwise it would be called a multimedia device and not a phone.
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I wish we could have a revolutionary phone come out like the Galaxy SII did. Even today, Galaxy SII is unsurpassed with performance. Is there any app or game that it can't run? I mean, it came out nearly 2 years ago, and still has not been matched by an app.
I hope Galaxy SV comes in the way of the revolution.
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Wait, what, lol!
Pretty sure the Gs1 started the trend there. Gs2 was nice, but nothing revolutionary.... The s3 was by far the best in the series thus far, until this one comes out.
With that said, I like my Note 2 more so than my s3.
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I think the Note series has been pretty revolutionary and Samsung has worked hard to come up with clever things to do with the stylus.
I don't know what big hardware improvements are left to do. The one I would like the most is 3-D capabilities, both screen and camera, like the Evo 3D. I would imagine in the last two years the technology has gotten better and Samsung could market it a lot better than HTC. Plus there is more 3D content than two years ago. Samsung could also do cool things with 3D and the hover technology.
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I never said my prime use is phone calls. I just said 20 min is not the norm. And again where do you get your information. No matter what phone whether it is a dumb phone or smart phone, one of the main focus of a phone period involves making phone calls. Otherwise it would be called a multimedia device and not a phone.
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Ah well tough break, I guess this phone isn't for you then.
Shammyh said:
While I agree that the upgrades in the GS4 are barely a full generation ahead of the GS3, which is unfortunate given how much a jump the GS2 was over the GS1, and how much the GS1 was ahead of anything else at its time... there is a sort-of point about diminishing returns here as well. It's harder to "improve" certain aspects but so much, as we're beginning to hit the limits of what can even be perceived as an upgrade.
I mean, think about the screen. Very low res -> QVGA -> WVGA -> 720p -> 1080p. Well that's great, but for the next generation, where do you go? There's really no perceivable need to put anything higher into a sub 5" device. Maybe flexible screens? Unbreakable screens? etc etc? That's still not gonna actually increase the photonic information presented to your eyes from the device.
Or take the physical phone body. The GS4 is pushing the screen so far that it's easily covering 80-90% of the entire front surface area. So okay, next gen, you make the entire front surface a screen. Then what? Make the phone thinner? Well, at a certain point you hit a limit there as well. People can only grasp and comfortably hold objects of up to a certain depth. When you get it smaller than that, you're basically just printing a screen onto a knife blade. So that's no good...
Let's try connectivity. LTE and 802.11ac? Most cell networks couldn't saturate their LTE links if they tried, they simply don't have the capacity yet. And even if they did... You're telling me you can even find a use-case where your phone is pumping out/in 100+ mbit/s of data? I mean, at home it's nice to move music/videos/files around sure. But I highly doubt anyone is routinely moving gigabytes of data per hour on any sort of mobile device. Once you hit what you need for say HD video streaming... where else is there to go? Again, the next generation doesn't really need to move data any faster than this.
Sensors? Well, there's actually lots of room for improvement here. And also, un-coincidentally, this is where the GS4 has some the of greatest advantage over other current/last generation devices. While we're still pretty far away from a proper tricorder, we can now sense via magnetometer, accelerometer, gyroscope, light sensor, infrared sensor, microphones, thermometer, hydrometer, barometer, and two cameras... But building sensors isn't the hard part. It's building clever software to do something with these sensors.
I could go on further... but the point I should think is clear. Yea, it's a bit disappointing that nothing since the original GS1/GS2 has really been a full "generation and a half" ahead of the competition... but a large portion of that is simply because we're beginning to hit the ceiling with some of these improvements. Yea, in 20 years "phones" will be unpredictably evolved from what we have now. But I bet the screens still won't have any higher effective PPI than what we're approaching now...
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I have to disagree about LTE. That 100mbs conection is shared across possibly 100's of users and it does not take alot to bring it down to it's knees.
Video of sub 500kbs LTE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-VVwPqhXwI
That and really 2,3,4,5,10 GB is not really that much data if you plan using the LTE speeds fully. If I didn't have a unlimited plan, my bill would be higher in a month than what my phone cost.
I will say your right about the screen 1080p is good, well really for most 720p does the trick. ( I can still see the dot's on a 720p 4.3in screen though, but most can't.)
This is my "quick and dirty" unedited video review of my UMI eMax with a custom MANOWARACERA rom from Spain. It has Installer Xposed and Gravity Box, many small but good improvements like battery life and speed, and it's very clean, not much if any bloat, nice. This also touches on how well UMI works with us modders with their excellent RootJoy flashing/backing up software. Nice to see the better China phones getting this level of attention.
For reference, here are the specs on the eMax:
5.5 inch IPS OGS capacitive screen, FHD 1920x1080 pixels, bright and high quality.
MTK6752 Octa Core Processor, 1.7GHz GPU:Mali-T760 MP4.
Android 4.4 OS (possible Lollipop 5.0 Update at the end of July 2015 according to UMI).
2GB RAM + 16GB ROM(one partition, not split up like many China phones, yay UMI!).
3500 mah Battery(real rating, UMI states 3750 mah).
Dual SIM card dual standby plus separate micro sim slot.
5mp front camera plus a 13mp (interpolated, it's really 8mp) back camera.
Support FDD LTE,4G,3G,GPS,wifi,bluetooth,Miracast included.
Networking: 2G(Note: the 1900MHz band works on T-Mobile as HSPA+ in most areas in the US) GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, 3G WCDMA 900/1900/2100MHz, 4G: FDD LTE:1800/2600MHz(overseas only, not for US).
This is a very nice phone with great battery life even for a power user, a top notch FHD screen(blows the crappy, dim screen on my Zenfone 2 away easily..), stable software(4.4.4 KitKat for now), and a solid unibody build. The only real flaw with it is a not so great rear camera, but it's at least being steadily improved with software updates. There are also some nice accessories available for it for a very little cash, like a good quality gummy case, two different colored hard stick on case/stands, and tempered glass screen protectors. This is getting more common on the better selling China phones and it's a welcome addition for sure. This phone can be bought on many, many China dealer sites like Gearbest, ibaby888(DHGate), Pandawill, efox and more for around $150-160.00 US, a steal IMHO
Here's the link to the custom rom, first reported on here by @Tautologica on another thread(thanks again!). It works great!
http://www.movilesdualsim.com/tema/rom-mod-umi-emax-basada-kitkat-4-4-4-v04-19-6-15-por-manowaracero.106572/
And here is the link to my video review, hope you like it
https://youtu.be/XeDHIAPJXVk
P.S. If anyone can explain how to embed the video here, I'm all ears, thanks!
Nice review mate.
The screen brightness could be better. I am not saying it is bad but now that is summer and all, I would like to add a notch more brightness when using the phone outdoors.
And the camera is kinda bad if you try to take landscape pics. Closeups and videos are fine imo. And I use quite a lot the 120FPS video recording. Nice feature imo.
I am really happy with the phone. It is the cheapest MTK 6752 phone out there afaik and definitely worth the price.
Cos it is the cheapest there are downsides ofc. Umi had to save in something to bring the price down.
And props to manowarcero for the excellent custom rom. I am really happy with and i've xposed the hell out of emax now and it works great!
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Nice review mate.
The screen brightness could be better. I am not saying it is bad but now that is summer and all, I would like to add a notch more brightness when using the phone outdoors.
And the camera is kinda bad if you try to take landscape pics. Closeups and videos are fine imo. And I use quite a lot the 120FPS video recording. Nice feature imo.
I am really happy with the phone. It is the cheapest MTK 6752 phone out there afaik and definitely worth the price.
Cos it is the cheapest there are downsides ofc. Umi had to save in something to bring the price down.
And props to manowarcero for the excellent custom rom. I am really happy with and i've xposed the hell out of emax now and it works great!
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I couldn't agree more, for the price this is a steal, near flagship power for us budget minded folks
As for the brightness, I compared it to my Zenfone 2, which has a pretty dim screen even after I bumped it from it's preset 80% max default, so the eMax looks to me to have plenty of brightness compared to it. No problems outdoors for me at all. And I also love Xposed, makes this rom so much fun to play with for sure As for the camera....well I think some folks got a better lens than others, as it's simply not very consistent between reviewers I've noticed. Mine is definitely not good, even the slightest zoom in causes tons of noise, and all the different camera apps I've tried so far don't seem to be helping. But I have noticed a bit of an improvement with this rom, so not all hope is lost here. Here's hoping Lollipop can help even more. Been in contact with MANOWAR over on the DualSim forums and it looks like he may continue support for the next rom from UMI, we are all pushing for him to do so, and that can only be a good thing
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I couldn't agree more, for the price this is a steal, near flagship power for us budget minded folks
As for the brightness, I compared it to my Zenfone 2, which has a pretty dim screen even after I bumped it from it's preset 80% max default, so the eMax looks to me to have plenty of brightness compared to it. No problems outdoors for me at all. And I also love Xposed, makes this rom so much fun to play with for sure As for the camera....well I think some folks got a better lens than others, as it's simply not very consistent between reviewers I've noticed. Mine is definitely not good, even the slightest zoom in causes tons of noise, and all the different camera apps I've tried so far don't seem to be helping. But I have noticed a bit of an improvement with this rom, so not all hope is lost here. Here's hoping Lollipop can help even more. Been in contact with MANOWAR over on the DualSim forums and it looks like he may continue support for the next rom from UMI, we are all pushing for him to do so, and that can only be a good thing
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Just received my eMax today (1 month in transit, bought during flash sale, not yet opened lol), I pray to the gods of RNG that I get good lens. Also the reviewer at htcmania opened his eMax and found a 3500mAh TCL branded battery while a reviewer at gizchina.de opened his and found a 3500mAh unbranded battery from Shenzen. I dunno if there is a difference between the two but I expect the TCL one to have better quality control.
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Just received my eMax today (1 month in transit, bought during flash sale, not yet opened lol), I pray to the gods of RNG that I get good lens. Also the reviewer at htcmania opened his eMax and found a 3500mAh TCL branded battery while a reviewer at gizchina.de opened his and found a 3500mAh unbranded battery from Shenzen. I dunno if there is a difference between the two but I expect the TCL one to have better quality control.
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In the end, 3500mah is 3500mah...doesn't matter who it comes from, lol. But seriously, it's a very long lasting battery either way, and that's all that matters
Have fun with your new toy My fingers are crossed you got an acceptable camera, no joke.
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In the end, 3500mah is 3500mah...doesn't matter who it comes from, lol. But seriously, it's a very long lasting battery either way, and that's all that matters
Have fun with your new toy My fingers are crossed you got an acceptable camera, no joke.
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Comparing mine to itxtutor's eMax samples, I'd have to say I got the bad one. But I guess I have to learn to live with it. Although the first impression with the battery is kind of not good. Also any one knows how to change the default settings on the camera so you don't need to tinker with the settings everytime you open the camera?
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Comparing mine to itxtutor's eMax samples, I'd have to say I got the bad one. But I guess I have to learn to live with it. Although the first impression with the battery is kind of not good. Also any one knows how to change the default settings on the camera so you don't need to tinker with the settings everytime you open the camera?
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Did you charge the battery to full? It does take awhile with the stock charger. I don't use said charger because of the many issues I've heard about it, though(like buzzing and getting really hot). Try a different charger and you will probably get better results. As for the camera, use a different app like Google Camera, it remembers the settings you put in, at least it does for me. And the end results are the same either way, unfortunately...sorry you didn't get a good one
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Did you charge the battery to full? It does take awhile with the stock charger. I don't use said charger because of the many issues I've heard about it, though(like buzzing and getting really hot). Try a different charger and you will probably get better results. As for the camera, use a different app like Google Camera, it remembers the settings you put in, at least it does for me. And the end results are the same either way, unfortunately...sorry you didn't get a good one
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I haven't charged the battery yet, except when connecting it to the PC, I've just only used up the battery, my nephew used it to watch 2 videos from youtube while using WiFi, it used up around 20% in 30-35 minutes.
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I haven't charged the battery yet, except when connecting it to the PC, I've just only used up the battery, my nephew used it to watch 2 videos from youtube while using WiFi, it used up around 20% in 30-35 minutes.
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Well, charge it up then, it takes a bit for the battery to settle in, after three or so charges, you'll see better results. Plus take the time to "listen" to the included charger, if it starts buzzing or getting really hot, discard it and use another one. Lot's of low quality chargers sent out with the eMax.
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Well, charge it up then, it takes a bit for the battery to settle in, after three or so charges, you'll see better results. Plus take the time to "listen" to the included charger, if it starts buzzing or getting really hot, discard it and use another one. Lot's of low quality chargers sent out with the eMax.
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Yeah, I won't even try using the charger just to be safe. I'll just use my old one.
Chickens83 said:
Yeah, I won't even try using the charger just to be safe. I'll just use my old one.
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That's good, play it safe, that's what I, and many others, did I just threw mine out,lol.