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Goodbye Axura... :(

Hi guys,
I wanted to post this on the Axura thread, but it got closed minutes before i could do so...
Firstly, I'm not even from the USA. I'm located in South East Asia - Malaysia to be more accurate.
I managed to get hold of a Captivate and have been with Axura since day one.
[unlike you guys, I had to pay the full price of the device. There's no telco subsidy for it since, it's not an official phone in my country]
I've bricked once, lagfix multiple times from ext4 to none, to ext2 and back.
And it's been working great for me. I get fantastic signals from Adam's Axura ROM and even GPS is great. (it locks me in seconds after changing to supl.google.com).
In terms of battery life, i must say adam has done an excellent job. I upgraded from the Legend, and seeing the additional size of the screen and higher processing power, I'm getting decent battery life. (and like all of us Asians, we love the internet, so 3G consumption is ultra high).
I just wanna say this - if you can't stand the battery drain, flash another rom.
If you can't flash another rom, use the stock rom.
If that is not enough for you, get an extra battery - i believe it's more affordable for you guys (we pay like 30+ USD for these same batteries).
If you think the captivate or any android phone drains battery, get a blackberry - should last you one to two full days. Or a nokia. Yes, get a nokia.
To Adam, I hope you change your mind, and continue developing.
I enjoy using Axura. And although flashing some other ROM is VERY tempting, i always find myself convincing myself not to - because i'm satisfied with it, and there's no reason for me to.
I hope to see Axura 2.6...
And i still hope...

That ROM has changed hands three times in a couple months. Someone elese will pick up that ball. YOu have to have thick skin to develop. People demand so much and offer nothing. Most do not donate to the developers or site for their upgraded devices. Then ***** and moan about paying $2 for and App like TiBu or Root Explorer that will save their asses when they do start enjoying the developer's work.
Amazing. I don't blame Adam really. Everybody *****es about the hard time given noobs on DGs threads but he stays out of the threads and lets the community police themselves.....hence he has the most popular ROMS maybe not so much because they are the best but because he will be there for the long run and eventually fix the issues. I left DG and tried the other great ROMS like Axura and Assonance since Cog 6 and P6 because those ROMS were not stable enough for me....But he has fixed them and is abandoning the OC/UV ROMS which I believe is a good idea. That is why his thread has been around and has a lot of posts. not because its the "friend;y" thread. But because it is consistent and has been there through thick and thin. Noobs have a tough time there because they don't want to read 10 pages back most of the time.
DG's skin is thick and his followers police their own and make people READ. Not much hand holding because all the information is readily available. As Adam can attest to now hand holding does not pay off. The "friendliest thread" is not so friendly from the users who whine about battery life, something that can easily be remedied with an extra battery, a luxury not available on more and more phones. There are always whiners no matter what who take advantage of other's hard work yet contribute nothing.
Axura can be downloaded as is and be a daily driver along with a few versions back without issues. It is a good ROM as is Assonance. Many more newer ROMS have come out. Some will disappear as fast as hey came. Others may stick around.

It was bound to happen. Hell master opened up ce axura had a tantrum closed it then reopened it, then had another tantrum and what do ya know, closed again. Hans reopened it and did a wonderful job but life took him away from axura, best dev imo, no offense to Adam. Then adam took over for a bit. Did a good job but couldn't handle the people who want free stuff to be perfect and then want more again for free lol.
Axura is an awesome rom but is and was doomed from the beginning lol
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tbong777 said:
Noobs have a tough time there because they don't want to read 10 pages back most of the time.
DG's skin is thick and his followers police their own and make people READ. Not much hand holding because all the information is readily available.
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Just wanted to HIGHLIGHT those..........although it will not do any good........

tbong777 said:
That ROM has changed hands three times in a couple months. Someone elese will pick up that ball. YOu have to have thick skin to develop. People demand so much and offer nothing. Most do not donate to the developers or site for their upgraded devices. Then ***** and moan about paying $2 for and App like TiBu or Root Explorer that will save their asses when they do start enjoying the developer's work.
Amazing. I don't blame Adam really. Everybody *****es about the hard time given noobs on DGs threads but he stays out of the threads and lets the community police themselves.....hence he has the most popular ROMS maybe not so much because they are the best but because he will be there for the long run and eventually fix the issues. I left DG and tried the other great ROMS like Axura and Assonance since Cog 6 and P6 because those ROMS were not stable enough for me....But he has fixed them and is abandoning the OC/UV ROMS which I believe is a good idea. That is why his thread has been around and has a lot of posts. not because its the "friend;y" thread. But because it is consistent and has been there through thick and thin. Noobs have a tough time there because they don't want to read 10 pages back most of the time.
DG's skin is thick and his followers police their own and make people READ. Not much hand holding because all the information is readily available. As Adam can attest to now hand holding does not pay off. The "friendliest thread" is not so friendly from the users who whine about battery life, something that can easily be remedied with an extra battery, a luxury not available on more and more phones. There are always whiners no matter what who take advantage of other's hard work yet contribute nothing.
Axura can be downloaded as is and be a daily driver along with a few versions back without issues. It is a good ROM as is Assonance. Many more newer ROMS have come out. Some will disappear as fast as hey came. Others may stick around.
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No, Axura ends here. No one else is going to pick it up unless Master says so unfortunately. I was asked by Hans to take over outside of the thread as I supported it and its users like no other. Once I took over only a handful stayed with the program and treated me the same. The rest turned into a bunch of hungry vultures that would be no where without people like Hans, Master, myself and the other great devs on here. I know it is open source, but unless the person who attempts to take it over is ready for a **** storm, I highly recommend reconsidering. I wish it didn't have to end this way, but I am a man of values and do not like being disrespected and am done with it.

I believe adam was doing an excellent job. Axura is the most stable and reliable rom I have used. All of whiners out there should be ashamed of themselves. They are acting like they have paid hundreds of dollars for the roms. They are free and all of them are betas. If you don't like a rom, just flash another one. Don't whine and moan and try to piss everyone else off too. Hats off to you Adam. You did a fantastic job and we are gunna miss you.

Its all about ROM rep. DG threads are full of assholes ready to flame the next new comer for asking a simple question, same goes for Axura(not as bad as DG tho). we treat each other like ****, leading us to treat devs like ****. Its a big cluster **** of a vicious circle.
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ninjuh said:
Its all about ROM rep. DG threads are full of assholes ready to flame the next new comer for asking a simple question, same goes for Axura(not as bad as DG tho). we treat each other like ****, leading us to treat devs like ****. Its a big cluster **** of a vicious circle.
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We need to end this cycle before it causes even more problems than it already has. I am in talks with right now(no names are being disclosed) to see what we will do going forward. No promises, but you may see Axura again. If it does come back that thread is going to be cleaned up and overhauled like no ones business. I am not going to dev and have assholes blowing it up.

ironmanapa said:
I believe adam was doing an excellent job. Axura is the most stable and reliable rom I have used. All of whiners out there should be ashamed of themselves. They are acting like they have paid hundreds of dollars for the roms. They are free and all of them are betas. If you don't like a rom, just flash another one. Don't whine and moan and try to piss everyone else off too. Hats off to you Adam. You did a fantastic job and we are gunna miss you.
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yea Axura was the best!

Seriously? How old is everyone? I can't believe this **** goes on in thread about phone ROM's. This is ridiculously childish.. I bite my tongue sometimes before I post because of the responses people give with their CYBER BALLS - but in the end, say F it because who the **** are they? Some guy on their laptop that read a couple pages and feels they can **** on everyone since the other guy didn't know the answer. This is an open forum for people to ask questions and get respect and guidance from those that do know the answer and should not ***** about the same question that is ALWAYS going to get asked over and over again.
Adam, good luck with whatever you decide to do.
On to the next one...

adamholden85 said:
We need to end this cycle before it causes even more problems than it already has. I am in talks with right now(no names are being disclosed) to see what we will do going forward. No promises, but you may see Axura again. If it does come back that thread is going to be cleaned up and overhauled like no ones business. I am not going to dev and have assholes blowing it up.
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I believe the solution to your problem is to create a wiki, with FAQ and all. Don't answer anything via post, only put it in FAQ/changelog/fixes whatever.
As for people flaming you, don't bother. If they are truly pissed off, they will go to another ROM.

I feel bad about the devs here taking crap from whiney users. I ask certain questions, test it, if it fails, re-do the entire phone, and never complain. It is all about treating the devs and each other with respect, while I have noticed some people just whine and then want all these extra features and usually want them now. I personally, am just happy to have a stable rom running on my phone because I do not like the stock rom especially with running Froyo compared to Eclair!
Cheers,
Charlie

Axura development ends...again , come on guys LOL, is it that bad? Its only the internetz.

emuneee said:
Axura development ends...again , come on guys LOL, is it that bad? Its only the internetz.
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It is not just the internet. Imagine putting just about all of your free time into a project and having people complain and complain and have it seem as though you are never doing it right. The issue with the battery pushed me over the edge. You all wanted a super fast ROM that did it all. I made sure you had that and then a good portion of you whined that the battery was dying faster than you liked. You cant have the best of both worlds. Keep your eyes and ears open in the next few days. That is all I have to say.

adamholden85 said:
It is not just the internet. Imagine putting just about all of your free time into a project and having people complain and complain and have it seem as though you are never doing it right. The issue with the battery pushed me over the edge. You all wanted a super fast ROM that did it all. I made sure you had that and then a good portion of you whined that the battery was dying faster than you liked. You cant have the best of both worlds. Keep your eyes and ears open in the next few days. That is all I have to say.
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I never used Axura, it looked good, but honestly, I would just make a statement stating your stance on the battery topic and keep it moving. These people will move on and get tired of complaining and whining. You can't please everyone.

Yeah I have to say, if you're willing to ROM dev, you gotta have thicker skin. Is Samsung closing their doors because a ton of people are mad about not getting Froyo? No, because thats ridiculous. There are lots of people who love the work being done, as far as the dicks that don't, ignore them, dev for yourself and because you want to share what is working for you. I gotta say I'm gettign sick of the Axura drama, first Master, Hans, and now this? Grow up and either keep it going and ignore the haters or quit, its just getting old at this point.

adamholden85 said:
We need to end this cycle before it causes even more problems than it already has. I am in talks with right now(no names are being disclosed) to see what we will do going forward. No promises, but you may see Axura again. If it does come back that thread is going to be cleaned up and overhauled like no ones business. I am not going to dev and have assholes blowing it up.
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Thats the way it should be. You work hard and respect should be given. Thank you for all your hard work
Hope to see you back in the game.

Good luck Adam. I have been running Axura since Hans, and you contributed some amazing work! I am sorry to see it end this way, but perhaps it is for the best.

Biggest problem is that I noticed is people test these rom's by the hour or release. And some expect a perfect rom the first time. People forget this a development community. Also if people would run a rom for a week they would notice that a battery can actually improve over time. I try to run roms for a week or more and always see improved battery life. I just hate to see the dev's taking heat for their hard work. Good Luck adam and thanks for all that you done.
edit: Oh and why should devs have thicker skin? They give their work away. Nobody should have to sift through asinine comments. I damn sure wouldn't take that kind of abuse in real life. No reason to take it from some anonymous pricks on the internet.

jwood55812 said:
Yeah I have to say, if you're willing to ROM dev, you gotta have thicker skin. Is Samsung closing their doors because a ton of people are mad about not getting Froyo? No, because thats ridiculous. There are lots of people who love the work being done, as far as the dicks that don't, ignore them, dev for yourself and because you want to share what is working for you. I gotta say I'm gettign sick of the Axura drama, first Master, Hans, and now this? Grow up and either keep it going and ignore the haters or quit, its just getting old at this point.
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agreed. Like Charles Barkley said, half the people love you and the other half hate you. There's nothing you can do about it.
Many of the people in this forum are assholes, but most aren't. Why let the vocal minority win when they are clearly in the wrong?

I think there's too much Overlap

Removed by me.
Still something that should be considered though.

No disrespect intended but I would take this down before you get shut down. This is not the droid forum and this is how it is done here in the Captivate forum. There is more to each of these ROMs that separates it from one and other. Try running them one by one and you will see what I mean. Some are heavy, some are light, some are slower and some burn your freaden hand(hypothetically speaking of course.) A lot of hard work goes into each and every ROM and you will get a lot of crap for this post. Also, look at each ROM, do you see anything that is different among them? check out the firmware they are based on. Some are I9000, some are Vibrant and some are the new GB from the Nexus firmware. There is plenty that make them unique to the dev. Please consider removing this post, we want the Captivate forum to be a friendly place and this is definitely going to cause some issues.

adamholden85 said:
No disrespect intended but I would take this down before you get shut down. This is not the droid forum and this is how it is done here in the Captivate forum. There is more to each of these ROMs that separates it from one and other. Try running them one by one and you will see what I mean. Some are heavy, some are light, some are slower and some burn your freaden hand(hypothetically speaking of course.) A lot of hard work goes into each and every ROM and you will get a lot of crap for this post. Also, look at each ROM, do you see anything that is different among them? check out the firmware they are based on. Some are I9000, some are Vibrant and some are the new GB from the Nexus firmware. There is plenty that make them unique to the dev. Please consider removing this post, we want the Captivate forum to be a friendly place and this is definitely going to cause some issues.
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Based on this post you should consider yourself lucky only one person saw the original post.
Sent from my Captivate.

I always miss the good posts! It definitely must have been something for you to respond like that, Adam.

Delgoth said:
Removed by me.
Still something that should be considered though.
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Given only a very small number of people saw your original post, whatever it was is a bit hard to consider, isn't it?

I am constantly amazed at how many people have the gall to complain about ROMs. ROMs that the devs build for free, in their personal time.
Spend less time whining and more time flashing, you will see how little overlap there is.
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I wasn't complaining i was suggesting that more of the devs work together rather than alone. As in there seems to be some overlap in some roms.

Delgoth said:
I wasn't complaining i was suggesting that more of the devs work together rather than alone. As in there seems to be some overlap in some roms.
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So develop your own ROM with no overlap whatsoever.

polarbee said:
So develop your own ROM with no overlap whatsoever.
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In binary.
On an abacus.
That you made from sticks.
Won't overlap a thing in existence that way.

God forbid some things overlap with limited sources i.e. i9000 ish and NO source for FROYO on the captivate... REALLY man? like 5 people actually DEV for the captivate and they all put out some good stuff. A few more port stuff from other galaxy s phones. Be thankful we have these guys. Or better yet, sell your captivate and go get an EVO there are TONS of roms for that. Then you can flash something totally different everyday so you get no overlap. You NOTICE how i randomly CAPITALIZE words? FAIL to you buddy.

[Q] Question about maintaining ROMs

I think we all realize that making these ROMs is just a hobby for most, but doesn't anyone want to make a fully stable one? From what I've seen since this phone rolled out, is that someone will make a ROM, update it a few times, and then it's just dust in the wind. Also the only 100% stable ROM is the stock ICS ROM; no? My point is not to criticize anyone for their hard work,but to rather ask the question; what is the point of tinkering with a ROM and never getting it to 100% before moving onto the next one? I know everyone is very appreciative of what goes on in this community, me included. I was just wondering if someone could shed some light on this question for me.
Also, just my two cents; It would be nice for someone to maintain a custom ICS ROM just so there can be an up to date ROM with nice features and wifi calling. =)

Instead of giving your 2 cents, do it yourself. What's your definition of stable. I've been on PAC since it's come out and have zero complaints. Your want stable? Don't root, don't flash, don't modify. There, perfectly stable. Saying "my point is not to criticize" doesn't absolve you from being completely ungrateful for the hard work it takes to do this. Do it yourself. XDA is a development forum, not completely 100 percent stable forum. Don't like it? Go get an iPhone.
Sent from a Blazing PACMAN devouring ALL...

Most of the roms are stable. You can find things to ***** about on any rom, including stock.
When it comes to something not getting fixed it can come down to the dev not enough time, or its not worth the effort, or they moved on to a different device. I mean is it really worth fixing a bug that 2 people are experiencing if it is going to take a few weeks away from your family, I don't think so. And that is about how solid 95% of the roms are. Give some props.
There are probably 25 ROMs over 4 revisions of android... Its our job as USERS to spend the time and effort to find one we like, and that suits us. If a ROM has a bug that is detrimental to the use you need, look at another one. So try not to criticize devs when you haven't done your due diligence as a user.

csssc said:
I think we all realize that making these ROMs is just a hobby for most, but doesn't anyone want to make a fully stable one? From what I've seen since this phone rolled out, is that someone will make a ROM, update it a few times, and then it's just dust in the wind. Also the only 100% stable ROM is the stock ICS ROM; no? My point is not to criticize anyone for their hard work,but to rather ask the question; what is the point of tinkering with a ROM and never getting it to 100% before moving onto the next one? I know everyone is very appreciative of what goes on in this community, me included. I was just wondering if someone could shed some light on this question for me.
Also, just my two cents; It would be nice for someone to maintain a custom ICS ROM just so there can be an up to date ROM with nice features and wifi calling. =)
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Fully stable is damn near impossible, man. There is sooo much involved in coding these ROMs it's literally staggering. These devs aren't software developers (not most of them) but just regular guys, working regular jobs like you and me. If you want completely stable best to stay stock rooted (so you can drop all that bloatware bull****) Most of these developers have day jobs that don't involve android and do this in their spare time, for us. To be frank, man, you did come across EXTREMELY critical, and the folks around here don't take kindly to that (just breath @njstein) What's the saying? Beggars can't be choosers? My point, if you want to run 4.3 your're gonna have to take the good with the bad, just suck it up and deal with the FEW bugs. I've been on 4.3 for a couple months now with no serious issues.. Just a few bugs. And for future reference, keep this kind of thing to yourself

I had no intention a dragging this into what it has become. Obviously no one understands the point I was making or the question I was asking. I'm not going to further this conversation anymore.

I don't understand why you are making a statement in general to all ROMs. The reason why the older ROMs are unsupported is because there is no reason to waste time updating them as the guy above explained. That's why you will never see halo on ICS. Now, 4.3 roms are supported at the moment. If you like an iPhone then congratulations.
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anactoraaron said:
Because if every dev stayed on ICS we'd have loads of folks asking if 'such and such device' will ever get a jb or kk rom. Seriously re-read the posts about how difficult it is to code. Your post is akin to asking someone to rebuild a car engine multiple times because every 5000 miles the thing misfires. Why did it misfire? Was it a plug/wire? Something in the valves/cylinder? Electrical? Fuel delivery? How many hours do you expect someone to waste tracking and rebuilding (sometimes rebuilding everything) for every bug in a rom- even the bugs properly reported with a log?
And I've yet to see any device from Sammy to HTC to lg or any device at all that's 100% stable - even on stock. And that's from companies that have software development teams.
And don't listen to those folks about getting an iPhone- that platform isn't 100% stable or perfect either. What you are looking for is a dumbphone.
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Yup.... Why keep rebuilding that 4 banger (ICS) when with the same amount of work you can drop in a V6 (jb 4.1). And the same when a V8 (jb 4.3) is available to drop in. Then the 4 and the 6 get scrapped for some extra beer money, and you tinker with the latest and greatest again.

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Haven't been on in awhile and I see an argument going on? C'mon guys. Okay, about maintaining ROMs, when maintaining there are nightly's based off the latest changes. The more changes lead to more better features (and maybe some bugs). Not all are stable. In fact, there is no such thing as a "fully stable" ROM. Even stock from Samsung isn't stable. And please, don't argue on here. Take it to PM or some other way to communicate. Not on here on a public thread. May I include, that I have an iPhone . Don't hate because the OS is not controllable. Its a nice OS and lots of great apps. But Android is specifacally better in my opinion. Don't hate me for that lol. Also, if you'd like to learn on how to dirty port a ROM just google it and let's see if you can make a "stable" ROM. Move on everyone. lol
Edit: I don't want the mods to come on here and waste their time. Keep it clean next time

xWolf13 said:
Haven't been on in awhile and I see an argument going on? C'mon guys. Okay, about maintaining ROMs, when maintaining there are nightly's based off the latest changes. The more changes lead to more better features (and maybe some bugs). Not all are stable. In fact, there is no such thing as a "fully stable" ROM. Even stock from Samsung isn't stable. And please, don't argue on here. Take it to PM or some other way to communicate. Not on here on a public thread. May I include, that I have an iPhone . Don't hate because the OS is not controllable. Its a nice OS and lots of great apps. But Android is specifacally better in my opinion. Don't hate me for that lol. Also, if you'd like to learn on how to dirty port a ROM just google it and let's see if you can make a "stable" ROM. Move on everyone. lol
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You're right. It's important to remember that no one here is under ANY obligation to share anything - roms, root, recoveries, mods, etc - with anyone. So lets just appreciate what we have. :thumbup:
Let's also get a mod to close this thread, nothing more good can come of it.

This trollfest has gone on long enough. The sheer amount of disrespect flying around astounds me. Read the rules folks.
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No Custom Kernels!!

FIRST OF ALL I AM NOT TELLING ANYONE,"GET ME A KERNEL WITH SO AND SO FEATURES IN A WEEK"
NO ONE HERE AT XDA IS ANYONE'S SERVANT!!!
Its just a question and those having reasons can discuss(dont ARGUE,i am better at it)
There's some ROM development for Lenovo P2,but there is not even a single custom kernel development for this device. I would love to see some kernels with features like OC, voltage controls and many more... Would like to know why there's not even a single kernel for P2 on xda.

Because You are not building one!?

Kiristiba said:
Because You are not building one!?
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I am not a developer(thanks for counting me as one) If i knew developing then i would have tried to make kernel

Actually developers don't get born as developers.
They are normal people like you and me.
Everyone of us can become a developer.
If you don't want to invest your time,
Please don't ask why others aren't investing theirs.
I am trying to learn how to build a kernel/ROM myself.
I already completed a build of aicp for my Nexus 6
But up to now it doesn't even gets to the boot animation :'(
It is surely not a super easy thing to do but if you never start you will never reach a goal.

Kiristiba said:
Actually developers don't get born as developers.
They are normal people like you and me.
Everyone of us can become a developer.
If you don't want to invest your time,
Please don't ask why others aren't investing theirs.
I am trying to learn how to build a kernel/ROM myself.
I already completed a build of aicp for my Nexus 6
But up to now it doesn't even gets to the boot animation :'(
It is surely not a super easy thing to do but if you never start you will never reach a goal.
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I am not at all DEMANDING any developer to make kernels or something,also am not a newbie and have been testing kernels for years on my previous device... The only question is that why there's no kernel development for this device even after about 8 months of launch. I hope you understand my question and dont argue further on this thread.
And this is not just a question,it is my effort to draw attention of developers towards kernel development. You might not be able to make one as of now,but there might be others capable of doing so...

kanwaljeetsm said:
I am not at all DEMANDING any developer to make kernels or something,also am not a newbie and have been testing kernels for years on my previous device... The only question is that why there's no kernel development for this device even after about 8 months of launch. I hope you understand my question and dont argue further on this thread.
And this is not just a question,it is my effort to draw attention of developers towards kernel development. You might not be able to make one as of now,but there might be others capable of doing so...
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1st off. If you want a custom kernel and there is no one. Build it yourself!
2nd. Learn to read
3rd. OC? Go buy yourself an OP3, OP5 if you want to Overclock your CPU for your gaming needs.
4th. No body wants to undervolt an snapdragon 625 processor! For what reason?? to save battery?! On a 5100mah Lenovo P2 with a snapdragon 625? Seriously?!

celoxocis said:
1st off. If you want a custom kernel and there is no one. Build it yourself!
2nd. Learn to read
3rd. OC? Go buy yourself an OP3, OP5 if you want to Overclock your CPU for your gaming needs.
4th. No body wants to undervolt an snapdragon 625 processor! For what reason?? to save battery?! On a 5100mah Lenovo P2 with a snapdragon 625? Seriously?!
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You kids just have a small scope of thinking. OC is not just meant for high end devices. It can be done to improve performance on any of the devices. I had A6000 earlier which was OC from 1.2ghz to 2ghz!! Shockked??
According to u a good device doesnt need custom features(your 4th point),then why does op3 have lots of kernels and ROMS,isnt the stock rom enough.

@The Flash plz clean the crap from this thread, people are thinking that i am ordering them for kernel development.

kanwaljeetsm said:
You kids just have a small scope of thinking. OC is not just meant for high end devices. It can be done to improve performance on any of the devices. I had A6000 earlier which was OC from 1.2ghz to 2ghz!! Shockked??
According to u a good device doesnt need custom features(your 4th point),then why does op3 have lots of kernels and ROMS,isnt the stock rom enough.
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We are the kids here?
Those who understand that OC shortens the device's lifespan due to additional heat to the die?
Those who understand that highly educated engineer's from Qualcomm have build and lab tested the snapdragon's to work on a specific voltage on a specific clock rate to ensure impeccable and stable processing?
I would make sure to who you call a kid, before you reply to him

celoxocis said:
We are the kids here?
Those who understand that OC shortens the device's lifespan due to additional heat to the die?
Those who understand that highly educated engineer's from Qualcomm have build and lab tested the snapdragon's to work on a specific voltage on a specific clock rate to ensure impeccable and stable processing?
I would make sure to who you call a kid, before you reply to him
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Here you speak like kids, there's nothing like a perfect frequency on which a processor can work, there is a specific RANGE of mhz under which a processor can work efficiently, the extremes of it would decide performance or battery,so i'm talking about OC within that range, overclocking a bit wont harm the processor.

kanwaljeetsm said:
Here you speak like kids, there's nothing like a perfect frequency on which a processor can work, there is a specific RANGE of mhz under which a processor can work efficiently, the extremes of it would decide performance or battery,so i'm talking about OC within that range, overclocking a bit wont harm the processor.
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Seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. You are a number chaser and only want to see hgher numbers in benchmarks like a child and be able to show your school kid friends what number you were able to archive.
Please sell your Lenovo P2 and leave this subforum.
Or I see myself forced to build you a custom Kernel (which I can. As I'm a dev) and build it in that way that it intentionally overclocks to a clock rate which will keep crashing due to the chipset protecting itself and turning itself off. All the way to the point where you will fry your chipset and cry like an infant to your parents.

celoxocis said:
Seriously you have no idea what you are talking about. You are a number chaser and only want to see hgher numbers in benchmarks like a child and be able to show your school kid friends what number you were able to archive.
Please sell your Lenovo P2 and leave this subforum.
Or I see myself forced to build you a custom Kernel (which I can. As I'm a dev) and build it in that way that it intentionally overclocks to a clock rate which will keep crashing due to the chipset protecting itself and turning itself off. All the way to the point where you will fry your chipset and cry like an infant to your parents.
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Firstly my concern is not OC,its custom kernel.
And secondly i am not telling you to build a kernel with OC of 5ghz,clear ur misconception that 'OC is bad for processor' and rewrite it,'OC above a certain level is bad for processor.'

Nope. Not gone build one.
And i know any good dev that understands how Core-Ctl works won't build one either.
So it looks like it's on you to learn how to develop and build yourself a custom Kernel.

celoxocis said:
Nope. Not gone build one.
And i know any good dev that understands how Core-Ctl works won't build one either.
So it looks like it's on you to learn how to develop and build yourself a custom Kernel.
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I dont even expect one from you,bcoz u think that OC is the only feature in a kernel,whereas custom kernels can do a lot more
The thread topic is 'No Custom Kernel' and not 'No OC'.

kanwaljeetsm said:
I dont even expect one from you,bcoz u think that OC is the only feature in a kernel,whereas custom kernels can do a lot more
The thread topic is 'No Custom Kernel' and not 'No OC'.
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Yeah right. I have no idea what a kernel does and what it includes and what possible features one can include/exclude. It just so happens that I accidentally build the first custom kernel for the P2 within days of its device release to build a working TWRP for it. For everyone to be able to root its device. I'm betting you are using my TWRP build too.
I'm not gone argue here. Because your post count and thanks count speak for themselves. You are a user who demands and don't give anything in return.

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Yeah right. I have no idea what a kernel does and what it includes and what possible features one can include/exclude. It just so happens that I accidentally build the first custom kernel for the P2 within days of its device release to build a working TWRP for it. For everyone to be able to root its device. I'm betting you are using my TWRP build too.
I'm not gone argue here. Because your post count and thanks count speak for themselves. You are a user who demands and don't give anything in return.
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Give respect and get respect,my thread was not demanding and not against anybody,its you who just starts quarelling without thinking twice. If you could have started well,everything could have ended well.
And regarding the post,thanks ratio. I know what i have contributed to the device i earlier owned,the difference is am new on this device and u dont knw me thus u r speaking rubbish.

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Give respect and get respect,my thread was not demanding and not against anybody,its you who just starts quarelling without thinking twice. If you could have started well,everything could have ended well.
And regarding the post,thanks ratio. I know what i have contributed to the device i earlier owned,the difference is am new on this device and u dont knw me thus u r speaking rubbish.
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lol you are such a troll...
You even edited your opening post to look like you weren't demanding a custom kernel.
"Last edited by kanwaljeetsm; Today at 10:20"
Now you play the "victim"
You contributed to your earlier device? Where?
All you did is complain!

I was never demanding a kernel,read properly 'my thread was regarding there isnt a single kernel even after 8 months of launch',then people like you came here and then i felt the need of ADDING and NOT CHANGING my words.
And i am not a developer but i used to test the first builds of kernels and help dev make the best out of it.

C'mon, we already got an army of zombie bots asking for volte, no need to deteriorate this board more with such animosity

First off... Poor guy didn't know who he was arguing with... Which makes this a whole lot fun to read...
Keeping that aside, we're short of devs we don't even have a proper Custom ROM. So please familiarise yourself with this new thread.
Secondly, if you're good at something then prove it with your works... Not by arguing.
Peace ppl... :angel:
Oh I think you mentioned about OC in your first post which made things a little crazy. Custom kernals are not just OC yea... We need color calibration volume etc.. etc.. I get it... But we don't have a single perfect custom ROM yet. Which should easily give you an idea about the development of this device. So go easy on devs here.

OnePlus 6 Development Rate

Hey guys,
Just curious as this is the first time I've been around for a new device release and I'm used to getting a device long after developers have had them for quite a while.
Not that I'm complaining - but is this the usual rate of development for a new device?
Really appreciate all the great work you guys do! If I can help with anything let me know

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Hey guys,
Just curious as this is the first time I've been around for a new device release and I'm used to getting a device long after developers have had them for quite a while.
Not that I'm complaining - but is this the usual rate of development for a new device?
Really appreciate all the great work you guys do! If I can help with anything let me know
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Was just mentioning this is Telegram. I am aware of 4 kernels and 1 ROM being developed (not all yet available). I think with A/B partitions it's taking a little longer for development to start as we don't have an official TWRP yet (and I mean this in comparison to OP5) but if you're looking for a device with good developers support, you won't go wrong with the OP6.
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it's barely been a full week since the first orders were delivered so come back in a month.

I would report your thread and have it locked before the lazy keyboard warrior nerds come around to argue with you. I tried to ask what stage of development we're in and of course it was immediately interpreted as demanding an exact timeline of when we'll have ROMs and crap. Had to report-to-lock my own thread because people were acting unbelievably childish. The funny thing is even the mod who responded to the report seemed to be sick of the users' crap on here.

I would say this isn't anything unusual given the challenges of developing for this specific device. Many phones go weeks or months before even getting root. OP is dev-friendly, of course, but the A/B partition issues and other things are slowing roll-out a bit.

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I would say this isn't anything unusual given the challenges of developing for this specific device. Many phones go weeks or months before even getting root. OP is dev-friendly, of course, but the A/B partition issues and other things are slowing roll-out a bit.
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Thanks being understanding
I'm definitely not demanding nor expecting - but am willing to help where I can.
Your post answers exactly all I wanted to know - just wanted the opinion of someone who has been around a few new device forums to see what is and isn't normal.
It looks to me (from your post) like development is moving along pretty nicely then considering how new the device is/new challenges involved.
Again really appreciate the non confrontational reply.

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Was just mentioning this is Telegram. I am aware of 4 kernels and 1 ROM being developed (not all yet available). I think with A/B partitions it's taking a little longer for development to start as we don't have an official TWRP yet (and I mean this in comparison to OP5) but if you're looking for a device with good developers support, you won't go wrong with the OP6.
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I missed your reply initially! Really informative as well thank you
What 4 kernels are those? I know of Chewie/CleanSlate and Franken kernel?
Also if you don't mind me asking what ROM do you know of?

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I would report your thread and have it locked before the lazy keyboard warrior nerds come around to argue with you. I tried to ask what stage of development we're in and of course it was immediately interpreted as demanding an exact timeline of when we'll have ROMs and crap. Had to report-to-lock my own thread because people were acting unbelievably childish. The funny thing is even the mod who responded to the report seemed to be sick of the users' crap on here.
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Interesting! I hope people can quite clearly see I'm not expecting nor am I entitled to anything.
Just trying to gauge something I have no experience of from other people who have more experience.
Last phone I had was a OnePlus One... I got it many months after release due to the whole invite only thing and development was already pretty insane by the time I got one in my hands

silent08 said:
Thanks being understanding
I'm definitely not demanding nor expecting - but am willing to help where I can.
Your post answers exactly all I wanted to know - just wanted the opinion of someone who has been around a few new device forums to see what is and isn't normal.
It looks to me (from your post) like development is moving along pretty nicely then considering how new the device is/new challenges involved.
Again really appreciate the non confrontational reply.
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People can be testy about these kinds of questions because they are sometimes asked in a much more disrespectful/entitled tone.
To be honest, I think development is moving along pretty well, and certainly faster than what I'm used to from HTC phones (which are a different dev situation).

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I missed your reply initially! Really informative as well thank you
What 4 kernels are those? I know of Chewie/CleanSlate and Franken kernel?
Also if you don't mind me asking what ROM do you know of?
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Those three plus Flar. I keep an eye on GitHub and can see that he has created a OP6 repo though it was empty last time I looked.
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