Changing to ART - AT&T LG G3

I bought my LG G3 AT&T last month. I went to Best Buy today for other reasons than phones but decided to look at their LG G3 floor models that they had running. I immediately noticed that their phones fly compared to my phone and have no lag whatsoever. I also noticed that they were all using ART.
I have tried many numerous times to switch to ART but after the reboot, I'm always still on Dalvik. Any suggestions to what I'm doing wrong? Also do you think that display models are set to outperform ours just because LG/retailers want to sell more units? I really am unsatisfied with this phone so far and I bought mine outright. I came from a Samsung Galaxy S3. I had an Epic 4G touch before that. I really hate that we have no development as of yet. I am really considering selling my phone on Craigslist and either getting the Samsung Galaxy S5 or the HTC ONE M8. Please let me know what you think.

Tursch67 said:
I bought my LG G3 AT&T last month. I went to Best Buy today for other reasons than phones but decided to look at their LG G3 floor models that they had running. I immediately noticed that their phones fly compared to my phone and have no lag whatsoever. I also noticed that they were all using ART.
I have tried many numerous times to switch to ART but after the reboot, I'm always still on Dalvik. Any suggestions to what I'm doing wrong? Also do you think that display models are set to outperform ours just because LG/retailers want to sell more units? I really am unsatisfied with this phone so far and I bought mine outright. I came from a Samsung Galaxy S3. I had an Epic 4G touch before that. I really hate that we have no development as of yet. I am really considering selling my phone on Craigslist and either getting the Samsung Galaxy S5 or the HTC ONE M8. Please let me know what you think.
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Are you rooted or running any xposed mods?
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Rooted and running xposed mods.

Xposed makes you stay in dalvik, disable and uninstall it to change to ART, I prefer dalvik myself.
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SGS III now, Note II in a couple weeks, or try to handle my retarded infuse for the 4

My infuse has gotten steadily less stable and functional since the day I got it, and I know it's the device because I have several other android devices that are months or years old and still work like new, even in some cases with the stock ROM still.
So I'm wondering if I should get the SGS III now (AT&T), wait for the note II later this month ($100 more than the SGS III) or TRY to survive until the SGS IV?
Galaxy S III will be 100 this Sunday at best buy. If that inclines the buy. Plus dev support is good I hear for the gs3. Trinity Kernel is amazing and dev supports the gs3. Plus the note 2 is gigantic Imo
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I like the giantness of the note II but I can't really say what I'd use the processing power for. All I really do with my phone is doing things that involve reading (reddit, XDA, texting, sexting(lol jk), etc) and listening to music and watching movies sometimes. I'm not much of a gamer or multi tasker.
I might have to go to best buy tomorrow.
What do we think about the One X, appearance aside? It's quad core, has LCD (both + and -), and it has nicer out-of-the-box software. Just looking at all my options.
My wife and I have gone through a bunch of HTC phones in the past. Personally I don't like the quality. Talking to the at&t guy at the store he says they got better in that way. I'm still hesitant to go with them.
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Everyone I know says they like the quality of the HTC over Samsung because they're solid and don't have a removable battery.
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Everyone I know says they like the quality of the HTC over Samsung because they're solid and don't have a removable battery.
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Again I can't comment on newer HTC, but my wife who uses a phone as a phone went through 3 of the original my touches before tmo swapped it with a moto clique. Then went with the my touch 4g and went through 2 of those before we parted ways. I had the hd2 and swapped it 4 times before I found xda and put android on it. Not sure but having to wipe the original operating system and replace it with one that ran off the microsd card to keep it stable enough to use isn't my idea of quality.
And issues weren't nit picky things. Constant crashes, reboots, phone and texting not working, factory resets just to use them.
Samsung us tons better in my eyes.
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Time to upgrade, but can't decide on which one

Hey guys, I believe this is my first post.
I've had a Nexus S 4G since last March and Sprint is telling me that I'm eligible for an upgrade. My wife doesn't seem to want to get a new phone so I'm thinking about giving her my Nexus S and getting a new one for me.
I'm looking at the LG Optimus G and the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest thing drawing me to the GNex is it's fairly similar to the Nexus S, and I love that phone. Would just like the GNex for the faster processor and more space. The Optimus G looks interesting because it seems to be the CDMA version of the Nexus 4, but the glass casing and terrible LG updates are making me second guess.
I've also noticed the the development for the Optimus seems stale, maybe since it's so new. Where on the other side, I already know that the development for the GNex is huge.
Thoughts, opinions, flames, whatever you want to bring to the table, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks!
be like everyone else and just get the s3
Gungrave223 said:
be like everyone else and just get the s3
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+1 or note2
life!
note 2 is too big to handle, go for Galaxy Nexus, its a killer
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note 2 is too big to handle, go for Galaxy Nexus, its a killer
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Okay, after some research and finding out that the Optimus G does not have a removable battery, that one is definitely off the table.
I seriously may consider the GS3. I just love the Nexus devices so much though. The GNex seems to me like a Nexus S on steroids.
I'll see. Gonna go look at some tonight and see what kind of deals people have. I know the old lady wants a GS3 so I may surprise her with one.
only android?
or you are looking for something else?
you cant go wrong with a gs3..and if you wanna root and mod it,this is the place to be with your gs3
bear in mind also if u plan to use LTE support, different country, uses different band and make sure u get the right phones, i got an LG optimus, and my provided provide a different LTE band... suck...
go for Galaxy Nexus you won't regret it.
Well the galaxy nexus gsm version is the best phone I used so far. But I heard bad things about the CDMA version such as potentially poor signal, much slower official updates compared to the gsm version and less battery life. Don't forget the Galaxy Nexus will have the widest variety of third party os roms such as firefox and upcoming Ubuntu and Tizen.
The Galaxy S3 might be a better choice if you don't need as cutting edge roms and updates though. It has excellent camera, microsd slot, longer battery, slightly better screen and beret sound quality (either the us or international version). I'm disappointed with the built quality though and the Nexus built is definitely better even if not great. Also you should read the thread about many people getting sudden death issue with their 16gb S3 due to failed nand, but I guess you're okay if you have sprint warranty.
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Gnex is a great choise. However it is 1.5
year old. Optimistic G is like a little monster!! But do u trust LG???. Don't forget that 4x won't update to jb!!! If u like aosp look don't forget LG Nexus 4!!
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If u have big hands try note2
But if u have small hands then s3 will be fine for u
If u are going to root it then there is no reason for buying nexus phone......
I am an Android Fanboy but Steve Jobs had Rightly said that if a phone cant be used by one hand it's not a phone......
IF ITS BETWEEN THOSE TWO;GET THE NEXUS MAN :thumbup:
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Steve Jobs had Rightly said that if a phone cant be used by one hand it's not a phone......
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I do not used a touch screen phone one handed, it's a very slow way of controlling when my index finger can move faster and is more flexible than my thumb.
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wait for the galaxy s4..?
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I'd go for the Galaxy Nexus
Dude get a Note 2 pls
go for Nexus 4
How about oppo find 5?
wait for another somedays & go for the Sony Xperia Z

[Q] Which device to choose on Verizon?

I looked at some of the similar threads but they are old and devices change so rapidly so I am starting a new one.
I am looking for some thoughts, opinions, etc on a new device. I have to buy my device on Craigslist, eBay or somewhere because I have an old Verizon plan with unlimited data and can't upgrade without losing my plan and paying their upgrade fee.
I have been using a Toro Nexus on Verizon for about a year. I have been running CM10 and making updates as they are released. Recently my phone took a header out of my truck and now the screen is cracked. So, it is probably time to get something more up to date.
A couple things I am looking at evaluating are:
ROMS and development love available for devices. Which ones get the most love?
If I get something unlocked as in straight from Google like the Maguro would I be able to get a radio which works on Verizon?
Cost is a consideraton as well. For example I like the price of the S3 right now compared to the S4 on CL.
Any thoughts, opinions, facts, guidance, etc would be awesome!
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I looked at some of the similar threads but they are old and devices change so rapidly so I am starting a new one.
I am looking for some thoughts, opinions, etc on a new device. I have to buy my device on Craigslist, eBay or somewhere because I have an old Verizon plan with unlimited data and can't upgrade without losing my plan and paying their upgrade fee.
I have been using a Toro Nexus on Verizon for about a year. I have been running CM10 and making updates as they are released. Recently my phone took a header out of my truck and now the screen is cracked. So, it is probably time to get something more up to date.
A couple things I am looking at evaluating are:
ROMS and development love available for devices. Which ones get the most love?
If I get something unlocked as in straight from Google like the Maguro would I be able to get a radio which works on Verizon?
Cost is a consideraton as well. For example I like the price of the S3 right now compared to the S4 on CL.
Any thoughts, opinions, facts, guidance, etc would be awesome!
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the Galaxy nexus is a great phone it saddens me to see that you would like another phone. but im not you so lets get start with phone shopping shall we?
Google
I can see that you like all the rom and development for devices i happy for that!, most of the time you would want one of googles flagship phones that is plain ol stock android (nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 4 etc..) googles is so great to us since its stock android its much easyer to flash roms and put other goodies on our phones! i have heard the nexus 4 is one of the best phones around right now (not to mention the new white nexus 4 thats coming out soon with Android 4.3!) so if its on your provider i would recomend that from google!
Samsung
So from what you said you want a phone around the price of a S3, from that right there i would recomend a S3! Samsung does a great job with their phones its not the same stock android like the galaxy nexus they have spiced android up to what they call touchwiz which is a very smooth version for their launchers. a S2 might sound old but even that would be a great phone (i dont know about the specs galaxy neuxs might be a little newer so S3 might be better to get). rooting should be very simple all i had to do for my S2 was to flash a pda file from odin so its again easy to be able to join in on all the development. i think i have heard that the S3 (and maby S2) is getting alot of Goodies from the S4.
LG
i have only had some LG phones and in the past they werent so good but their newest flagship the Optimus G Pro is sposed to be aso good as the HTC one and S4 i dont think LG has their own type of launcher such as samsungs touchwiz, htcs Sense, or motorolas motor blur. so that probably means stock android and pretty easy to root and flash stuff.
HTC
the HTC dream was the first android phone, all of their phones are amazing i have had many of their devices, sense is a very smooth, sense 4.0 and up is sposed to be great. the One and its new blinkfeed feature i have heard can get old within a month or two so im not sure. about rooting with htc phones can be a pain. its different between each phone my droid incredible i had to unlock the bootloader turn s-on off downgrade just to be able to get root and cwm and its all a big pain, htc just dosent want us to screw with it maby. for my htc inspire 4g i had to just only unlock the bootloader and could flash a root from there but still was a pain, so if you can deal with some of the fears of easily bricking your phone you can try these phones!
there are alot of (im just going to call them third party but they arent really) third party phones such as huawei, ZTE, kyocera that some are deff better phones from these people that are better than the galaxy nexus just ask if you would like me to explain them!
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the Galaxy nexus is a great phone it saddens me to see that you would like another phone. but im not you so lets get start with phone shopping shall we?
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Thank you for all the info. Much appreciated. The Galaxy Nexus (Toro) is a wonderful phone. I believe it is the longest running in my pocket. It broke my heart when it took a swan dive out of my truck Sunday. I would absolutely go with another of these. The question on that topic is could a guy get the Maguro to work on Verizon's CDMA network? I don't know that much about the hardware but I'd LOVE to try Ubuntu Touch.
There is a local guy who has an S3 advertised on CL for $175. I'd have to evaluate that guy first though. Would I be as happy with the development on the S3 as I have been on the Toro?
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Thank you for all the info. Much appreciated. The Galaxy Nexus (Toro) is a wonderful phone. I believe it is the longest running in my pocket. It broke my heart when it took a swan dive out of my truck Sunday. I would absolutely go with another of these. The question on that topic is could a guy get the Maguro to work on Verizon's CDMA network? I don't know that much about the hardware but I'd LOVE to try Ubuntu Touch.
There is a local guy who has an S3 advertised on CL for $175. I'd have to evaluate that guy first though. Would I be as happy with the development on the S3 as I have been on the Toro?
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i googled a way for it to work on verizon, dosent look like there is any way unless its unlocked. as for the s3 im sure you will be happy with all the development as much as the toro i have seen the s4 at some networks for $149 with a 2yr.

Anyone regret getting the S4?

As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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I am regretting it!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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I am.. I came from Verizon Galaxy Nexus and have been on the S4 for 2 full months... There are some nice features on the S4, but some quirky things that REALLY drive me crazy. Given the opportunity, I would go back to my Nexus and wait for something else
I bought the GS4 very soon after it was released and wish I had waited... There arent many other phones out there as powerful as the GS4 but the new Moto X looks like and I also like the GE GS4 as I already own a 1st gen Nexus 7.. Im just glad that they figured out a root for the new MF3 firmware...
WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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Nope. In fact more I use, more I feel good about this phone. And also glad that I chose this one over others. Some of the widely used the so called gimmicky features I like using all the time is smart stay, blocking mode, and ofcourse most of the features of TW stock camera. This camera takes the best panorama, period. I have Nexus camera app to take photosphere shot and now I don't miss the Nexus experience at all. But as you know no 2 individual are same, therefore its up to you whether you like this phone or not. After all you are paying to own the device therefore if you are not happy with this go for the one you think is 'money well spent'
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I got mine completely free as do most my other phones. Definitely best smart phone I've ever had and well worth every theoretical penny I spent on it.
I returned mine... just did not like the screen. I have an Active and I'm happy
WizeGuyDezignz said:
As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.
Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.
The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
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I personally have not experienced any more lag or stutter than I have on other android phones (actually experience much less). I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus i9250. That phone was slow as hell even with custom roms. The screen was **** too (after a ski trip, the cold did something to the screen and its filled with lines now. GS4 is way better.
I like the phone. I do run it rooted and stock. After getting rid of the bloat I don't think it lags that much. I love the camera and the remote function. I wanted a larger screen and this was a good compromise since I was looking at the Note II. I do have better service than my htc.
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I like the phone. I do run it rooted and stock. After getting rid of the bloat I don't think it lags that much. I love the camera and the remote function. I wanted a larger screen and this was a good compromise since I was looking at the Note II. I do have better service than my htc.
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I love mine, is rooted and also get a lot battery life and removed all bloatware to make it faster:good:
Thanks for all of the responses guys! So none of you wish you had gotten the One? I don't know why the phone is so stuck in my head right now. Thoughts?
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it's a nice phone and I don't regret buying it. I however prefer my Note 1 over it though. the screen was much better (though a lower resolution), no button on the front and tbh I spent more time on stock with the I717 than I did with the I337. I still have my 717 and when this S4 breaks as I'm sure it will, I'll swap back to the 717, get my squaretrade warranty for the S4 and just sit on the cash until something else comes out that suits my fancy. Hopefully something without a locked bootloader.
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Thanks for all of the responses guys! So none of you wish you had gotten the One? I don't know why the phone is so stuck in my head right now. Thoughts?
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I have some reverse insight to add for you, because I initially picked up the One and then swapped it out for the GS4. Every phone has its quirks, and as a previous GSII and GSIII user, I couldn't live with the One's quirks:
The button placement was awkward for me. As a right-hander, I like having the power button at my thumb and the volume rocker at my index and middle finger. The One has the volume rocker lower on the right, and the power button up top.
Without a physical home button, the position of the power button makes the task of quickly checking your phone for the time etc a little more annoying.
The screen stops at the speakers, as opposed to the Galaxy series' glass fronts which go all the way. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but I would almost always get my finger caught in the nano-difference in height between where the speakers end and the screen starts while swiping down for notifications.
On the plus side, build quality on the One is excellent and the speakers just blow the S4 out of the water. The screen, while smaller, looked sharper and less saturated than the GS4's. If those are important to you, definitely check out the One. I was too used to the Galaxy series and decided to switch back to the S4 - couldn't be happier. Hope that helps!
I'm currently on my 3rd month of being a 7 year iPhone convert. I traded my iPhone 5 for a Note 2, then traded the Note for an S4. I like it. I like the feel of it in my hand despite the plastic. Screen is beautiful and the camera is excellent, My only problem is that every single AOSP ROM I flash crashes my phone like crazy. I've gone through at least 6 different AOSP ROMs to no avail. Almost like its just not meant to be. I've used CleanROM since the beginning with the KT kernel overclocked to 2.16GHz, UV'ed -50, Greenified, & Viper audio and on Saturday beat the battery life I was getting on my Note 2 with a 26hr charge. Am I happy? Yes. Can it still be improved on? But will I eventually trade it for a Note 3 when its out? Yes.
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I'm currently on my 3rd month of being a 7 year iPhone convert. I traded my iPhone 5 for a Note 2, then traded the Note for an S4. I like it. I like the feel of it in my hand despite the plastic. Screen is beautiful and the camera is excellent, My only problem is that every single AOSP ROM I flash crashes my phone like crazy. I've gone through at least 6 different AOSP ROMs to no avail. Almost like its just not meant to be. I've used CleanROM since the beginning with the KT kernel overclocked to 2.16GHz, UV'ed -50, Greenified, & Viper audio and on Saturday beat the battery life I was getting on my Note 2 with a 26hr charge. Am I happy? Yes. Can it still be improved on? But will I eventually trade it for a Note 3 when its out? Yes.
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That undervolting might be one of the reasons you're always getting crashes. Liquid smooth 2.9 is by far the best aosp rom I ever ran. Gave me amazing performance with no hiccups on the stock kernel and better battery life than any other rom I ran. Almost 7 hrs of on screen time.
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That undervolting might be one of the reasons you're always getting crashes. Liquid smooth 2.9 is by far the best aosp rom I ever ran. Gave me amazing performance with no hiccups on the stock kernel and better battery life than any other rom I ran. Almost 7 hrs of on screen time.
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WoW tha'ts great battery life, I need to give a try
I agree with all posts to date. And, yes aosp is not quite ready for prime time on most S4 phones. Esp 4.3. Seems like some of the older issues are still there.
I am on Omega v9 and Wicked. They are buttery smooth and lightning fast--flashed correctly of course--
I mainly got the S4 over One for screen size when web browing. And did not like the button placement either. I came from 2 rooted HTC phones, so nothing against HTC.
Luckily we have so many choices--:good:
I didn't get HTC One, because it lacked micro SD card slot. Though it also lacked removable battery option but I could have trade off of that thing. But then again HTC has shown the middle finger with the updates on their so called flagship phones. Next year when they'll release yet another flagship phone, they'll forget about HTC One even exist.
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I didn't get HTC One, because it lacked micro SD card slot. Though it also lacked removable battery option but I could have trade off of that thing. But then again HTC has shown the middle finger with the updates on their so called flagship phones. Next year when they'll release yet another flagship phone, they'll forget about HTC One even exist.
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^^This Too^^
I first got the S4 Active, because I thought it was an S4 that was waterproof... that phone was a big disappointment!
Lacked the SuperAMOLED display
Lacked the more powerfull CPU
and it lacked the Gen3 Gorilla glass...
(these were the dealbreakers for me)
I then traded it in for the Full S4, and loved it!
I just wish I could have kept MDL on it, (yeah, I was stupid, and took the MF3 OTA)
I did have a week + of full root+recovery, and managed to play with a few custom OS' before I reverted back to stock...
even though I am no longer able to use a custom recovery, I am very happy with the S4 and would only trade it for a MDB/MDL phone at this point.
I've bought the S4 a couple times since its been released. Even upgraded to it a few times before taking it back. Finally decided to pick a brand new one up on eBay after thoroughly checking the IMEI number. I do not think the phone is worth a full upgrade. That's why I got mine for a song brand new on eBay. One shouldn't have to root and flash a custom rom because the original phone software is way too laggy.
I don't regret getting the S4, but I know I won't be sticking with it as long as I planned. It's a great phone, but I'd like to see what the next iPhone brings to the table and the Note 3.

Still worth buying/using?

Hello everyone,
I am in the market to pickup a used cell phone for one of my lines, I have been looking at a used G2. All of my Android phones have been Samsung and HTC (since the HTC Evo days). I only need the phone for texting and light calling for this secondary line with a decent screen. I am currently using a LG L90 for this line and though it meets my needs for the most part, texting on it is terrible. Do you think this phone is still worth using? I have never had a LG phone so I am curious about the great things I have head about the phone. Any thoughts? Thanks.
I still think it's one of the best values around. FYI, I currently have a One M7, a LG G2, and a Moto Maxx (unlocked, non-carrier Droid Turbo). But if I had to choose only one, it would be the LG G2.
I use lg g2 daily and it still competes with the flagships coming out today
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Oh God, yes. And I'm only using the stock Kitkat ROM, just rooted, and it's still perfect. It would be even faster and fresher if I updated to a custom ROM, or Lollipop. I happen to "settle" for the LG software because it's relatively unbloated with T-Mobile, and it has a lot of nice extras like QuickRemote and other little touches. The only thing I don't use is the stock launcher -- instead I opt for Nova.
I have 120+ apps installed, and put multitasking to the test by frequently switching between several memory intensive tasks. Throughout all of this it rarely gets hot, and if it does, it's because of the screen running at 100%. I've never noticed the phone throttling (wish I could say the same about my LG L90, for sure).
You could likely find it for about $100 if you looked hard enough at Craigslist. I couldn't find one fast enough and just picked this one up at TMo for only $100 and financed the rest.
Thanks everyone....
I have went ahead and picked up a G2 on Swappa. I do not use it a lot since its my secondary phone for more than emails, calls and text but i really like it. Because of it i picked up the G4 for my primary phone. Thanks everyone for the comments

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