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I believe that new Nexus S will let the google down. I had many issues with samsung products in the past, and I saw glitching stock vibrants. What you guys personally think about it?

I think Samsung wants to screw over their current customers. Then again, I am assuming they are doing this because of the leaks.

Yay, lets mix freedom and complete control and see what we get.... It's retarded and the nexus name is forever tarnished.

I would have loved to see the Nexus line stay with HTC but let's face it, they didn't do a great job with the Nexus One. Crappy digitizer and failing power buttons...

Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
Galaxy S phones failed big time. Lagging like hell and freezing. Not to mention previous samsung phones.
I could be wrong too. Lets see how Nexus S will go. Maybe samsung learned the lesson.

Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Loggerhead87 said:
Do any of you guys have the phone? Did you create a thread just to bash something you haven't used? I have mine OCed to 1.4 GHz, running stable with CM7. Everything is blazing fast, as lag free as reasonably possible, and I have quadrant scoring at 3700+. Let me know when you can beat that.
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Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.

AntonJart said:
Nexus supposed to be the Android of all androids... But with samsung it will drown. I think dead buttons is nothing compare to a brick, which Nexus S will turn for sure.
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Actually I heard somewhere that the Nexus line is suppose to represent "pushing the Android line and what to expect from future Android phones."

z33dev33l said:
Used one for 3 days before wishing the world was flat so I could throw it off the edge. Even with the "new version" the fragmentation compared to the first version of windows phone 7 is just awful. After playing with it I cant find much if any difference from 2.2. If I wanted to throw money away like that I'd buy a vibrant on craigslist for 150, add a front facing camera, then use it as toilet paper that being the most practical use for galaxy S garbage.
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u mad
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Nope, happy with WP7, boy it's great to not lag on the homescreen

The Nexus S is a Samsung product that actually works. They've actually put a lot more effort in the Nexus S than they have the Galaxy S, which is sad to see on many levels. With the build of the Nexus S, and the power of hummingbird, the Nexus S is what all Galaxy S phones should have been. My Moment was a brick in terms of build, dropped it all the time but nothing went wrong with it. But the fact that it had no real hardware support for openGL, was built on 1.5 even though 1.5 didn't support CDMA, and the network issues were so far up there, I'd have to reset my phone 3 times a day! I had to send it back 2 more times and the same thing over and over! Rooting wouldn't help either! So they try to pawn the Intercept off to me as an "upgrade." A smaller resolution that most apps don't support, a slower network, and no Amoled screen? That's not an upgrade. When I had my Epic, the build quality was okay, nothing close to what my Evo is though. But I was tired of waiting for an update that should have come stock on the phone! With a phone like the Galaxy S there is no reason is should have shipped with 2.1! I'm glad Google is the one supporting the Nexus S and not Samsung, because then the Nexus S would have been stuck on 2.3 for half a year after the next Android comes out. I wouldn't mind the Nexus S, but that would be the only Samsung phone I would buy now. After 2 that had terrible support from Samsung, yeah right.

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Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.

AntonJart said:
Samsung products suck. I told earlier, somewhere in other post, that I could be wrong about Nexus S. Lets see how it will go. I personally do not trust Samsung Brand.
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Disagree with you a little bit there. I've got a Samsung TV, and Bluray player and both are amazing. It's their phone products that aren't too great. The Nexus S like I said, is what the Galaxy S should have been.

Samsung's hardware is amazing in my opinion.. Their tv's are the best,, and we saw it on our samoled screens.. I show my phone's picture to people and they are wowed... My vibrant is nice rooted on froyo.. But stock.... It's a piece of...
Thank xda for awesome developers.
samsung's software (touch wiz) sucks..
they don't release updates or keep their word.. They piss enough people off. But people keep coming back..
The nexus is saved by google. but honestly.. The nexus one set new standards on upcoming android phones. We didn't see much competition.. The nexus s came out.. With the same hardware we saw two seasons ago.. New standards? Na I don't think so.. instead we are looking forward to dual core phones.. 4g capable phones.. And to me the nexus isnt much of a difference from what we already had.. Cmon samsung! You should have surprised us with new shzz!
Still love my Vibrant though.. Just wish it was officially on froyo, had an FFC, perhaps some 4g capability... Psh.. I WISH! -__-"

Here I agree. I have samsung tv myself, and it is good. I also had their portable audio players, but they were bad. Nexus S has no sd card slot, 16 gb isnt bad, but what about powerusers? No 3G + support, full 4G coverage is still in the far future. Processor is still the same as in previous phones. No gig of ram. Its like a tiny upgrade of nexus one, not counting 4G and front camera. Oh wait, isnt back camera is 5 megapixels?
They should stop making dozens of models, and create 1 master phone, that kicks asses.
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That's sort of what they do now. They have two basis for their major phones.
Hummingbird
or
Samsung S3C6410
They've used Hummingbird in all of their high end phones, and the S3 in their mid-low end phones, and their older flagships like the Spica, the Moment. It's used now in another Galaxy phone I know(Not sure which one), I believe the Behold II has the cpu just not clocked as high, the Transform uses it, and the Intercept uses it.

I have sold my Wave S8500 and Galaxy I5800...I have learned my lesson.....No more Samsung produtcs for me.
Bad quality hardware and bad software support (updates, etc.) and bad customer service.
Google is making a huge mistake here!!

put simply...samsung hardware rocks, but samsung software blows. they really need to dump touchwiz and start from scratch...but imagine htc sense running on a galaxy s...epic win

I own both a Nexus one and a Nexus S. The NS is by far the better phone. Sure the N1 has metal and looks great it is in no way comparable to the NS. No android phone out right now compares with the NS.

Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S3?

Hey! I know I'm not the only one who has asked this, but I'm about to buy a new phone and I'm having a really hard time deciding!
I'm really liking the Nexus (though I really wished it had an SD card slot), considering it's from Google and so it gets what seems the best Android experience and support.
The Galaxy S3 seems quite impressive (though I dislike it's design), it has a much better processor, 8mp camera and other feauters the Nexus lacks. But I'm just wondering if it's really worth the money. Is the S3 far superior than the Nexus?
I want a phone I can customize, that runs smoothly and with which I can play some games (like Temple Run). Please, your pros and cons about both phones! That would help me.
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AnnS said:
Hey! I know I'm not the only one who has asked this, but I'm about to buy a new phone and I'm having a really hard time deciding!
I'm really liking the Nexus (though I really wished it had an SD card slot), considering it's from Google and so it gets what seems the best Android experience and support.
The Galaxy S3 seems quite impressive (though I dislike it's design), it has a much better processor, 8mp camera and other feauters the Nexus lacks. But I'm just wondering if it's really worth the money. Is the S3 far superior than the Nexus?
I want a phone I can customize, that runs smoothly and with which I can play some games (like Temple Run). Please, your pros and cons about both phones! That would help me.
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What carrier are you on?
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If you're anything like me, the less you have to mess with buggy roms and flashing and potential bricks - the better. The GNex will have Jellybean out of the box, while for the S3 you'll be relying on custom roms and such that in my experience almost always have *something* wrong with them, and of course there's the potential of bricking your phone.
Regarding power, for the vast majority of applications the Nexus is well up to the task. There aren't many games or power apps that will chug on a Nexus but not an S3.
As far as cameras go let's face it phone cameras just aren't that great. If you really want to take good photos, get a camera.
The only true reasons I can think of to get an S3 over a GNex are 1: expandable storage since the GNex only has 16gb and no SD slot, and 2: removable battery. I find myself regularly having to pull the battery as a way to hard reset when something hangs or dies. Unless the GNex has a button of some kind that serves the same purpose (?) I would be worried about this, especially if you plan to root and flash.
TL;DR : If you like to flash roms and have lots of control, the S3 is a far better option. If you just want a nice phone that works well and doesn't have all the bloatware, and don't plan on storing massive amounts of stuff on it, the GNex is a better choice for the money.
Hope that helps

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What carrier are you on?
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Hey! Digitel, which is a carrier from Venezuela, but if you're asking because of a contract, here we don't have contracts with carriers like in the USA.
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Hope that helps.
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It really helps! By the way, I didn't know the Nexus didn't have a removable battery! That's one of the reasons I discarded Xperia S and HTC One X.
A part of me is telling me to get the Nexus, which is cheaper, has more support, Jellybean out of the box and in general seems like a nice mobile.
The other is telling me to get the S3, which is superior hardware wise, has an SD slot and removable battery.
This is a tough decition! Haha. And like I said, I won't have a contract with any carrier, I just want to make a good choice. But thank you, you gave me good points to think about!
P.S.: By the way, the camera is not that important, I just want a decent one for when I have only my phone with me, as I love taking pictures. I currently have the Sony Xperia Pro, and I can't complain about the camera.

I don't know what that guy is talking about...but the Gnex has a removable battery.

I was in a similar situation and in the end I chose the Galaxy Nexus. You need to ask yourself:
Do you care more about hardware (camera, processor, looks etc.) or more about software (Jelly Bean, better development, etc.)?
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In my opinion:
1) If you are excited by new software updates and features, go with the Nexus...
2) If you don't care about software and ROMs and are just a normal user, go with the S3...
3) If you like Touchwiz or just want the most powerful phone at the moment, go with the S3...
4) If you want 'vanilla' android with no bloatware or themes or skins, go with the Nexus...
I went with the Nexus because I would have the phone for the next 2 years on contract and the Nexus would be updated, officially or via ROMs, for that period. Also, with the JB update on the Nexus, the Nexus is as fast as the S3 on ICS. The Nexus will be supported for quite a while as it is a 'Google' phone but the S3 will be outdated soon if you are on contract. Finally, development will always be more for the Nexus and, in my opinion, you are getting a phone which, although is not nearly as good as the S3, is half the price. Therefore, I think the price gap between the two phones is not worth the small gap in performance and usability. Hope the helped!

Removable battery is only an issue if you want to carry around spare batteries and swap them over as they die. Hold the power button for 10 secs on my One X and it does a hard reset.
If you can afford it I'd suggest the s3. Better hardware, not a pentile screen, excellent custom rom support, and just more flexible.
I'm wishing I got the S3 instead of my One X when I upgraded from my gnex.
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airchie said:
Removable battery is only an issue if you want to carry around spare batteries and swap them over as they die. Hold the power button for 10 secs on my One X and it does a hard reset.
If you can afford it I'd suggest the s3. Better hardware, not a pentile screen, excellent custom rom support, and just more flexible.
I'm wishing I got the S3 instead of my One X when I upgraded from my gnex.
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I seriously don't understand why these guys are answering when they have no clue what they are talking about. So now the GSIII doesn't have a pentile display? Please show me a link stating that.

To be completely honest I'd strongly recommend the s3. Software you can change, hardware you're sick with. Will the nexus get software updates first? Yeah, but the s3 still ends up getting them. Hell my s2 it's getting jelly bean. The processing power boost is very noticeable, despite what people say. And with the nexus there will be times you'll notice it, it's very painful it doesn't hurt to get a nicer camera anyways, and your media experience will be fantastic with the s3. Not saying either are a bad choice, the nexus is a great phone, but I'd even choose the s2 over it, and i did. The s3 is very much better than the s2. In my personal opinion, i would say s3. But you can't go wrong either way. Hope i helped
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Python. said:
I was in a similar situation and in the end I chose the Galaxy Nexus. You need to ask yourself:
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That is basically the question! Very good points, thank you!
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To be completely honest I'd strongly recommend the s3. Software you can change, hardware you're sick with. Will the nexus get software updates first? Yeah, but the s3 still ends up getting them. Hell my s2 it's getting jelly bean. The processing power boost is very noticeable, despite what people say. And with the nexus there will be times you'll notice it, it's very painful it doesn't hurt to get a nicer camera anyways, and your media experience will be fantastic with the s3. Not saying either are a bad choice, the nexus is a great phone, but I'd even choose the s2 over it, and i did. The s3 is very much better than the s2. In my personal opinion, i would say s3. But you can't go wrong either way. Hope i helped
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That is also a good point, software isn't permanent, while hardware is.
I want to thank you all for your views. You're all helping me decide and as MultiLockOn said, I can't go wrong with either phone.
Also thanks for clarifying the Nexus does have a removable battery.
I think I'll end up choosing the S3, buy I'll delay my buying until I'm positive.
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Huh, I was sure I saw that it didn't. Looks like it does.
In that case I'll probably get one

Well if you are able to get the quad core version of the S3 then S3 > Nexus. If not I would probably go with the Nexus since it will probably save you a couple of bucks.

Yeah, that is actually the only version I can find. I was also interested in the dual-core and 2GB RAM version, but that one I can't find here!
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nexus
nexus for sure..........
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nexus is far better than s3 ..........i find s3 looks are bad as compared to nexus...also s3 is not having jelly beans....so go for nexus 7

I miss my gnex and all the great Rom selections I had I would go with gnex just my 2cents
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Another thing..if you go to the Nexus forums, there are ALOT of people that sold their Nexus, got a GSIII, missed the Nexus, sold the GSIII and came back to the Nexus. Yes, the GSIII has better specs, but technology is so good now that you hardly notice it (unless you are a hardcore gamer).

Thanks a lot! This is really a tough decision! Now I think I'll choose the Nexus, because as I said (and you said) it has more support and it's a great phone in general. What I don't like is that it only has 16GB ROM, if it had an SD slot, this would be much easier!
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I've been having the same dilemma. Im a T-Mobile customer, but without an actual contract. I just have the plan that doesnt give a subsidized phone. Here is the think. I'm between the GS3, the Nexus or wait for the G Note 2 or HTC One X+. The GS3 is probably the best phone right now, but it cost as low as 600. It has a lot of functionalities, but i dont think anybody will use all of them. GNex will have more support for future Android version and it cost only 350. It doesnt have the same functionalities as the GS3 or it is not probably as responsive and I hate that doesnt have an option for microSD or an 8megapixel camera and specially that feels and loons a bit cheap. The G Note 2 and One X+ will be awesome, but will cost probably 600-700 and will go on sale as soon as septemter.
Right now im deciding for the GNex since has Jelly bean and will get more version. It is only 350. And I think it is as responsive as you really need right now. It has NFC, im not locked in wait for an Android update that could never get.
Should I go for it?
thanks

I'd say, go for the Galaxy nexus. Yes, the S3 is superior in some aspects but when it comes to customization I'd go for the Galaxy nexus. They're both customizable, yes. But the nexus is better cause it has support from Google. You won't need to flash roms just to experience the next big thing
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I go for Galaxy Nexus.. nice phone for development stuffs and value for money..
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New phone choice for 2012-2013

Hi guys hoping you can help.
Ive had my Xperia Play since new, but its screen has gone and feels slow compared to my mates phones now.
Ive been offered the choice of 3 phones.
Nokia Lumia
Samsung Galaxy s3
Xperia U
Im only really interested in making calls,texts,emails,music,browsing and games. All the other special features that come with all new phones are just a gimmick to me, (My X Play was rooted and bloat free within an hour of me getting it) so things like "Siri" on Iphone and S-Voice on Samsung are not a deal winner for me.
One thing I would like is to be able to hook my phone up to my TV via HDMI, something that was GREATLY overlooked on the Xplay, mores the pity.
So, seeing as im no expert, and you guys at XDA seem to be in the know please vote and if you pick "other" leave a comment explaining what phone and why.
Many thanks guys and gals!
Mr Flipfoot

it is also depending on what you want to pay for it
if it doesn´t matter what it cost
i would choose the s3 by samsung cause it has the best performance i think (and many custom roms of course and official update support)
you could connect it to your tv with the following adapter by samsung:
EPL-3FHUBE
(sry i can´t post a link because im a new member )

I would choose Samsung S3 because of the performance. If you're a mean android gamer then it's great for you. But if I really get to choose, I'd love to have Xperia acro S. It has 12MP, 1.5 dual core, HDMI, 11GB internal memory, up to 32 GB SD card and others.. It also looks sleek. You should search for it. I'm not much on the processor speed. I just love Sony's design and features. A fast, beautiful phone that could do everything I want would be great enough. This is just a suggestion. The decision is yours of course.

It all depends on
1 what is your budget
2 carrier (contract specific carrier or prepaid)
With your requirements and considering all carriers supported
Galaxy nexus, S2 or S3.
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Galaxy S3 FTW!

Everyone on this forums is going to recommend you buy the GS3. And it's for a reason, it IS the best phone out there hands down.

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Everyone on this forums is going to recommend you buy the GS3. And it's for a reason, it IS the best phone out there hands down.
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and one of the ugliest...
i recc you to wait for xperia gx or next nexus

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and one of the ugliest...
i recc you to wait for xperia gx or next nexus
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That's a statement based solely on opinion. The 15 million owners obviously don't think its ugly.
But go for S3. It's got beastly specs
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Wait for the next Nexus
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Galaxy S 3 only)

Samsung!

S3 or wait for the next nexus
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galaxy s4 hehe

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Wait for the next Nexus
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I agree with this. People always look at a Nexus' specs and go "it looks totally average, why get that when you can get a Galaxy S III or blahblahblah". Hardware specs will only get you so far. What good are they, though, when your software is perpetually bloated and outdated? I'd rather not be at the mercy of Samsung/HTC/whoever for updates.
The Nexus development scene is second to none, too.

dsRegeD upr
S3 FTW!

S2 !
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samsung galaxy sIII :good:
but worth in spending out your money

Flipfoot said:
Im only really interested in making calls,texts,emails,music,browsing and games.
One thing I would like is to be able to hook my phone up to my TV via HDMI, something that was GREATLY overlooked on the Xplay, mores the pity.
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Wait for the Note II to come out.
(I'm presuming that you're very interested in games, browsing etc.)

I know i'm getting hated for saying this but am i the only one that thinks the S3 is overrated? I'd rather have a Galaxy Nexus than an S3. And there are quite a few alternatives to the S3 like the One X (Many reviewers say it has the best screen out there), the 4X HD (Also IPS LCD like the One X but with bigger removable battery and microSD slot), the Galaxy Nexus (Sure, it isn't a quad core but if you check out on youtube a comparison between the GN and a quad core phone you will see that the Nexus can be as smooth (On JellyBean) or even smoother not to mention you get all the updates first) also the RAZR MAXX (It might not be the best phone spec wise but it has a huge battery which provides excellent battery life).
Sorry for the bad english.

is buying the sky rocket galaxy S3 worth it? or is there another phone, or keep mine?

I have the s2 and I love it but its starting to get slow and bogged down. I have 1 upgrade credit and im wondering is the S3 a good phone to get? Im through ATT.... I want it bad and the S2 rocked so much... I do lots of **** on my phone use it a ton for everything anjy thoughts on phones name some good ones? what about iphone5 compared to s3

Iphone5 compared to s3 ? Hum lets compare the day and night
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Skyrocket is an S2. Need to go to the S3 forums and ask there. And almost no one here will recommend you go to Iphone unless they hate you.
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Its an interesting question and honestly there isnt anything WRONG with the iPhone 5, but it comes down to, do i want to spend $180 , or save that $$$$ and get something like the Skyrocket or S3 which is just as good if not better.
Im not gonna sit here and bash the iPhone because it is a good product, but like most apple products are not cost effective.
Save that money and buy groceries or something with it man.
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My friend has an S3. He went over to his parent's house recently after his dad bought an iPhone5. They did some comparisons and then my friend laughed as his dad rather sullenly acknowledged that the S3 was easily the superior phone.

my impressions when comparing said phones
galaxy s=iphone 4
galaxy s2=iphone 5
galaxy s2sr=iphone 6?
small screens suck for a smartphone, apple should of went larger on their screens and to mention that we can mod the frack out of our phones.
people still cant believe how nice it is to view the browser on my sr w/the larger screen compared to their iphone 5, compare the 5 to the s3....fugetaboutit

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my impressions when comparing said phones
galaxy s=iphone 4
galaxy s2=iphone 5
galaxy s2sr=iphone 6?
small screens suck for a smartphone, apple should of went larger on their screens and to mention that we can mod the frack out of our phones.
people still cant believe how nice it is to view the browser on my sr w/the larger screen compared to their iphone 5, compare the 5 to the s3....fugetaboutit
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Your just about spot on. I don't "hate" the iPhone, I just find that it is more of a child's toy than the rest. However back to the OP.
Keep the SR for now, wait until next quarter when "supposedly" the S IV is supposed to be released. However having both the S2 SR, and the S 3, I love the S 3 immensely over the SR.

xxsicknessxx--do you have an SR now, or the regular S2? If you have the regular S2, moving to the SR isn't worth it. If you already have the SR and are thinking of the S3, I would just wait and upgrade to an S4 when it comes out. In the meantime, root and flash a ROM on your phone. It will give your phone some new life, IMO. :good:
As for the iPhone 5, to each their own, but it would feel like a letdown for me if I were to move to that.

My gf S3 on stock ICS(haven't updated to JB as yet) is a bit laggy, but I have played with my friends S3 with a custom rom and it's definitely worth it. I personally would wait for the next waves of phone releases though. They are definitely worth the wait.
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That's why I was suggesting to root and flash a ROM, especially if that ROM is JB. My wife also has a SR, and after putting a ROM in mine (CM10 stable), has no lag, while hers feels sluggish with stock ICS. A wipe/factory reset might help hers a little, but seeing the TW skin and all the carrier bloat turns me off.

Woah woah woah now. I stopped reading anything below the op as soon as gee asked about the iphone 5 lol...... Really op? Why do you have an xda account everyone here is droid nerds
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Anyone here wanting or waiting for the LG G2?

It looks like an amazing device and I wouldn't mind selling my current S4 and buying the G2.
The S4 is my third Samsung device and I've been pretty content, but I just wanna try out the G2 because it looks gorgeous, fast and new.
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Looks really nice and the specs are killer, but with att saying they are going to be locking boot loaders now. My next phone is going to be a nexus device.
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REDFOCZ said:
Looks really nice and the specs are killer, but with att saying they are going to be loving bout loaders now. My next phone is going to be a nexus device.
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Agreed...no killer phone is worth going through another locked boot loader. I cancelled my order for the Nexus 4 a couple of days ago. Hopefully, the next nexus device will have a larger screen and and won't be so hard on the eyes...just my opinion. I'm predicting a migration to Nexus devices by a lot folks...
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Damn, that sucks. I live in Canada and bootloaders don't exist.
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I have last year's options G and it is a great phone. But specs can only get you so far. I am hoping the rumors are right and the next nexus will have the same specs as the G2.
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I've been seriously thinking about it, I have the S4 now and its really nice. But design wise i felt better holding my HTC ONE XL.
Also i use it for music and the sound card in it is garbage, anything over halfway and the base just distorts and ruins everything.
The G2 has killer audio in it and i love the way it looks with the buttons.
Highly thinking of selling the s$ and getting the G2.
I'll de waiting to see how the development community picks on it first though.
Thats why I switched to the S4 i figured development was always killer for the Galaxy line and my ONE XL was pretty weak on development.

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Looks really nice and the specs are killer, but with att saying they are going to be locking boot loaders now. My next phone is going to be a nexus device.
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This! I was fortunate to get my S4 early so I have recovery. But if something happened to this device and I had to warrantee it and my new device had MF3, I would drop kick the phone to EBay in a instant. Hopefully this phone lasts until the new Nexus device drops.
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Ill be getting the g2 i had the op g & g pro both great devices the gpros boot loader was lokied fairly quick but even the stock ui was great
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Nexus 5.
I'll use at&t prepay. I'm done with their locked bootloaders. Didn't used to be this way. No more contracts. No more locked up devices. Cheers.

NOTE 3 looks awesome so I will get that. Just not too sure of the leather or faux leather back.

I would not buy anything other than a Samsung actually.
It just consistently has the best chance for great development community support.
I'm not saying LG won't get support, but high end Samsung phones generally gets MORE support and FASTER than most other mfg's.
If HTC didn't put their hard buttons backwards , then they would be my second choice.

Please move this discussion here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433789
Thanks