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Time for a new Android, help needed?

I've put it off for as long as I could, but it's come time to put my trusty captivate to rest and get a new Android. I've been with AT&T for 2 yrs, and really don't have a preference on carrier and am willing to switch to Sprint or Verizon, just not T-Mob.
Due to Amazons crazy penny sale, and black Friday I thought now's the time and wanted to get some opinions on a few phones. As mentioned, I've been with my Galaxy S for 2 yrs and have loved every minute of it, and while one of the Galaxy SII variants is the obvious choice I've also been checking out HTC and a few of the other brands.
I loved my captivates screen... I'm rough on phones and it's held up to everything I've put it through; it also has great depth and is crystal clear even compared to my brothers Droid X2 much to his surprise lol. Dual Core is a must of course, and as far as updatability goes I'm sure I'll have it rooted and rom'd asap so I'm not that concerned with "Will it get ICS?" like some other folks will be. I've been rom'd since I got the Cliq ages ago, so no worries there
I guess I'd like to hear some opinions on whats best of the bunch with the Galaxy SII variants, and which other companies/phones are comparable to those in terms of power, etc... I'm not new to Android world by any means, but I've lived in my Samsung powered bubble for the past year or so which means I don't know squat about the new, and its overwhelming to take it all in.
Any help or advice would be appreciated, I figure once I can narrow the phones down a bit I'll start looking at carriers a little more and see who's got the best 2-line family plan.

Well for black friday (Boxing Day...or week here in canada) the Sprint SGSII is a great buy. But if you have that extra money to spend and if you dont need an SD Slot, get a Galaxy Nexus. It's Google's flagship phone after all.

in my opinion, the GSII on at&t is the best looking...thats why i have one
i'd say either the sprint to at&t version would be great, or a galaxy nexus, but in my opinion, i think the GSII with ICS in going to be a better phone than the galaxy nexus

The Nexus would definitely be on my list, but its not going to come out here for until December so it's out for now. HTC and LG are the only other two brands I'm looking at right now; I like the Razr, but had bad experiences with Motorola in the past, so I'm on the fence about that one...

LG is just as bad as moto, maybe even worse. look at the 2x. It's either sammy or HTC.

Being in Alaska, USA I have very limited choice on carriers. AT&T is the only "BIG One" up here.
I also have been using the Captivate and with various ROMs recently to keep things fresh. I to have been looking and I do love the Samsung screens but I might jump for once. Been debating with myself on another Samsung like Galaxy Nexus or the Sony Ericsson Arc S, unlocked only $380 and in various colors. SE did announce official ICS update for this phone.

Samsung, cuz it has the most awesome screens or HTC because of the overall quality. Don't think you can really go wrong with any of those 2

HTC Evo 3D 1.2 ghz dual core, HDMI out, Wimax and 3D movies, photos and video recording. Whilst its a lil gimmiky its Loads of FUN. Otherwise it sounds like one of samsungs latest offerings is the go.

What about Nokia N95, I heard it's an iPhone killer

Moved

I am going to be the LG-P930 troll that I am and say "LG-P930".
On a more serious note, I can show you anything about this phone.

Question for the community :)

I could not be more fed up with the T-Mo G2x. I just listed it on Craigslist. I have had more problems with this phone that any other Android phone I've owned. I can not find a ROM that makes this phone run smoothly. I do not blame the devs in any way. They are just working with the crap that LG provided them. Anywho...to my question. I was wondering from those of you on T-Mobile what you thought the best replacement would be. I'm not eligible for an upgrade for another year so that is out of the question. I need a contract free phone and it needs to run on T-Mo's 3G or HSPA+ network. Thanks for your advice guys. I appreciate it. BTW...my budget is $350. My initial thoughts were either going back to a Nexus S, or going with an HTC Sensation.

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chris.wueste said:
I could not be more fed up with the T-Mo G2x. I just listed it on Craigslist. I have had more problems with this phone that any other Android phone I've owned. I can not find a ROM that makes this phone run smoothly. I do not blame the devs in any way. They are just working with the crap that LG provided them. Anywho...to my question. I was wondering from those of you on T-Mobile what you thought the best replacement would be. I'm not eligible for an upgrade for another year so that is out of the question. I need a contract free phone and it needs to run on T-Mo's 3G or HSPA+ network. Thanks for your advice guys. I appreciate it. BTW...my budget is $350. My initial thoughts were either going back to a Nexus S, or going with an HTC Sensation.
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Well.. If you have the option you should think about switching carriers. I have been on multiple carriers before, and so far I actually really like verizon. AT&T is a close second. If you don't want to switch/can't then I would recommend a HTC device. They are hard to root, but nice phones!

well, I run a Sony Xperia Mini on T-Mobile and I'm very happy with it.
It's a very compact phone though (which is exactly what I was looking for - the first Android phone I saw that is actually smaller than my trusty old Motorola Razr v3).
I would recommend you install the Swype keyboard in case you find the on-screen keyboard a bit too small.

I would say sell it again on craigslist or even on ebay...
at the time you could get a second hand samsung GSII
many great reviews on it

Get a skyrocket. Its just as good as a t989 and you get the bonus of an lte phone if you decide to go to at$t.
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IMHO you can never go wrong with Motorola or HTC products. Avoid Samsung like the plague myself.

I had my HTC Hero for almost three years. I never had a problem with it, it is by far, the best device personally I've ever used. I got my ns purely for the Google branding.
Go for the sensation if that's the one you like. HTC for me was the best however, its only my opinion. My next phone will be HTC again that's for sure.
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The sensation is right in your price range, i see them all the time on CL for around there usually a bit lower.
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Used Skyrocket is the best idea, coming from TMO SGSII owner.
Fantastic device. Even the stock rom is great. Or, go Nexus or HTC if ICS matters more to you than better hardware. Skyrocket/T989 will get ICS, but God knows when.

ICS Getting Closer

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-ics/
Looks like its coming pretty soon. Maybe some awesome devs can work some magic and get us ICS before AT&T does.
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That's Awesome

So the original s2 and international only? Hope the skyrocket international comes along beside it so someone can port it to att for us.
Was really hoping for this to be att news. But I guess I should have less faith in them.

We have a different processor and gpu in our Skyrockets than the international version. Not sure if ICS for that device would help a lot for rom development on ours, but then again we have some amazing devs here on XDA

Or not...
They updated their article:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-ics/
Update: Samsung's just tweeted that March 10th date is (sadly) wrong. It added that once the upgrade schedule is concrete, it'll confirm through its dedicated Twitter account.
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Really is anybody here going to buy a Galaxy III or IV or XX after this.
I am sick of Samsung.
I am sure they will do well 99% of the people have no clue, but me I am getting only Nexus Devices go forward.

Is it me or is samsung acting like a bunch of monkey flinging poo

AstroDigital said:
Really is anybody here going to buy a Galaxy III or IV or XX after this.
I am sick of Samsung.
I am sure they will do well 99% of the people have no clue, but me I am getting only Nexus Devices go forward.
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Ditto. My Skyrocket is only a few months old and it's going to be 'old tech' as soon as the HD hits.

Update recalled. Or delayed which ever you prefer.
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My next device is going to be the next Nexus device. I'm tired of this carrier and OEM bull****.

AstroDigital said:
Really is anybody here going to buy a Galaxy III or IV or XX after this.
I am sick of Samsung.
I am sure they will do well 99% of the people have no clue, but me I am getting only Nexus Devices go forward.
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As long as LG isn't the one to get it.....my wife's (after I pawned it off on her) Thrill is still yet to be updated to Gingerbread.
Comparing Samsung to others like Motorola and HTC, they are all the same. At least they have been pushing updates for bug fixes and such. The Thrill has yet to get even ONE update and they have major rebooting issues along with others. I would buy another Samsung. Would prefer they were the ones to get the next Nexus phone again.

Gr8Danes said:
As long as LG isn't the one to get it.....my wife's (after I pawned it off on her) Thrill is still yet to be updated to Gingerbread.
Comparing Samsung to others like Motorola and HTC, they are all the same. At least they have been pushing updates for bug fixes and such. The Thrill has yet to get even ONE update and they have major rebooting issues along with others. I would buy another Samsung. Would prefer they were the ones to get the next Nexus phone again.
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I traded my Thrill for the Skyrocket because of this. SO glad I don't have that paper weight anymore. At least we know ICS is coming, and it's about ready. LG was just playing with our emotions.

I said the same thing about only getting Nexus, but I was unimpressed with the specs of this last one and my NS4G had horrible reception issues because of a ****ty antenna.
Add to this the fact that they omit an SD card slot <--That is the biggest deal breaker by far! I like being able to take all of my files with me from phone to phone and not have to spend hours transferring files when I get a new phone.

Its basically just the carriers, if you want to get updates and have an amazing phone get the international version! I would speend 300 bucks more to pick up a of gs2 when it first came out. But I get a free phone anyway. Same thing for the gs3 the galaxy devices are pretty dang good! I mean the gs2 is still on of the best IMO. Or at least just got past after a year of it being out. So grab that extra. Money and go for it
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Same here, I'm getting a nexus device, I'm done playng the waiting game with Samsuck
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It sucks that they're taking so long. But, if you want to stay w/ GSM, I think the SR is still the best game in town ICS or not. Battery life on the Nitro and Vivid aren't nearly as good. And when I played w/ them at the store, they weren't nearly as responsive as the S2 (i777 or SR). The Nitro's screen was nicer, but wasn't so much nicer that I'd give up battery life and performance (and LG doesn't do much better w/ updates either). Nexus is cool, but if you don't wanna pay $6-700, value external storage, and LTE, that's off the table, too.
Samsung should've been happy w/ the original S2 (still one of the best phones available right now). They didn't need to release so many versions. I had in mind before buying this phone that the i777 will get ICS before the SR (either thru XDA or official) since the hardware is nearly identical to the international version. But, LTE was more important to me than ICS.
We can keep waiting for that perfect phone, or be happy that we have an awesome phone right now.

nexus devices are always inferior then the latest phone of that year...For example...Nexus S was inferior then SGS and now Galaxy Nexus in inferior then SG2....
I agree with above poster...with so many devs working for our phones, I think I would always go for a better hardware then the one which will get updated quickly.
I am using Samsung Captivate now, I am already running ICS (almost stable). it was one of best smartphone hardware wise 2 yrs ago..so its still getting development really good.

Waiting for official updates is dumb. The devs is where the good stuff comes from. ICS will be on our SR's from our devs loooooooong before Samung or ATT gets it to us. Standby for the good stuff. It's coming.
Sent from low Earth orbit with my SkyRocket.

So there's no XDA release of ICS yet for Skyrocket?

Not a fully functional or stable one.

Galaxy S Relay 4G Development Thread

So it seems my thread questioning about anyone getting the Relay has turned in the the Dev thread for it since for some reason XDA doesnt want to make a thread dedicated to it. I personally ended up buying a Note 2 which is why I dont follow this thread anymore but I just recieved a PM saying the thread was moved so I figured I would change the title of the thread from "Any one planning on getting the Galaxy Relay 4G" to "Galaxy S Relay 4G Development Thread".

Definitely looking into a replacement for my G2, haven't really seen anything convincing thusfar. With a S4, this just might do it.

debork said:
Definitely looking into a replacement for my G2, haven't really seen anything convincing thusfar. With a S4, this just might do it.
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Thats what im thinking. I hope that the rumor of a 5mp camera is wrong and it ends up being an 8mp but even if it is a 5 as long as it has a good sensor and flash ill be happy. So far it seems it will basically be a Galaxy S3 with a 4" screen and a QWERTY minus 1GB ram which really doesnt matter. Ive never owned a samsung before but i guess they are really easy to root with a program from samsung called odin. Hopefully CM will be supporting it.

Either way, it could be the next best upgrade for Desire Z owners. Especially with so many discouraged people with HTC and their policy's. They can keep them, and their phones. No ICS update, not even for related phones where we could bum the driver over. Not to forget how locked down the phone is. Plus Samsung phones are more consistant.

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Either way, it could be the next best upgrade for Desire Z owners. Especially with so many discouraged people with HTC and their policy's. They can keep them, and their phones. No ICS update, not even for related phones where we could bum the driver over. Not to forget how locked down the phone is. Plus Samsung phones are more consistant.
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Yeah Samsung seems to be the way to go these days. HTC locks their bootloaders, both HTC and LG dont provide updates, Sony phones are just not even close to the competition. Samsung provides the ODIN program so you can do what you please with what you paid for plus it seems they are providing pretty decent updates with the S2 and Note both year old devices getting Jelly been. Where my year old G2x is still on GB.

I definitely plan to replace my wife's G2 with the Relay. I've had a Vibrant and now the TMO GS2, I love working with Samsung phones, much easier.

Only if confirmed specs come out. Some new phones that aren't super popular are getting outdated specs like the new mytouch lines by huawei

g1user101 said:
Only if confirmed specs come out. Some new phones that aren't super popular are getting outdated specs like the new mytouch lines by huawei
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Yeah those new mytouch phones phones had been rumored for awhile now and the specs of them were outed well before they even came out i mean really a single core phone? Where going to be seeing quad core phones in the states soon
The only tmo mytouch that wasnt terrible was the first one. I had the slide and it was ok but had a locked bootloader and the genuis button is so stupid, never would buy another mytouch. I was really hoping that those rumors of a G3 were true but hopefully this Relay will turn out to be a great phone.

Hot dang that looks promising! Although I do love my g2 it'd be nice to have decent specs
sent from my rocking HTC G2 loaded with ICS

I'd rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail than use a keyboard made by Samsung.
Or Touchwiz for that matter, at least that mistake of an interface can be fixed with another ROM. Just sayin.

biohazrd51 said:
I'd rather pierce my lip with a rusty nail than use a keyboard made by Samsung.
Or Touchwiz for that matter, at least that mistake of an interface can be fixed with another ROM. Just sayin.
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The keyboard looks nice to me, who knows how it will feel since no one has tried it yet. I agree with the touch wiz but im hoping cm will support it.

What's the problem with Samsung keyboards?

HTC keyboards are the only ones I've liked. The spacing, depth of key press, and layout are the only ones that I've cared to use. Everything else I've tried feels like I'm using something cheaply made.
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I think I'll wait for October. That's when my G1 & G2 came out. If October comes without any solid information on a G3, then I'll migrate over to whatever the next Nexus device might be.
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Either way I'm waiting for my T-Mobile contract to end. Once that happens, I'm going to give T-Mobile a decision to make. Either give me a new phone of my choosing, or I switch carriers. A lot of my friends do this, and they end up with a brand new phone, like Samsung Galaxy S3's, but they're out of contract and desperate to keep you in it.
Carriers tend to give new contracts better deals for phones then those who just got their upgrade. Also, there's a lot of other carriers who offer a lot more for less then the big US carriers.

thepaddedroom said:
I think I'll wait for October. That's when my G1 & G2 came out. If October comes without any solid information on a G3, then I'll migrate over to whatever the next Nexus device might be.
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Idk man id love to see a G3 as much as anyone else here but I dont see it happening especially with the stupid G4x thats going to be coming to tmobile. It wouldnt make sense for them to release a phone named G4x and then a phone named G3. G4x will be just as garbage as the G2x, it will have awesome hardware and a quad core but will have no software support from LG or NVidia.

Do you guys think it will work in sweden? Then someone needs to send me one. Htc can **** off now. To bad i dont like samsung build quality and feel. To plasticky
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With Swype beta I don't really need physical QWERTY anymore. I'm just waiting for next nexus phone(s).

mologies ppowhin
Looks like an s3 with a keyboard, beautiful.

More pics released! Im feeling it. Hopefully it gets CM support and the power button can be mapped for the camera.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/08/a-full-360-degree-view-of-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-emerges/

[Q] Im Just not sure what to do here S3 or N4

First off thanks for your time,
That being said Ive gotten myself into a Brain boot loop that I just cant seem to get out of.
So here's the situation Im currently the proud owner of a Samsung GS3 which hands down is a fantastic phone
the phone is currently running CM 10.1 nightly with the KT747 kernel OC'd to 2.1 GHz Thanks to both devs for there fantastic work
so i guess you could say i have somewhat of a "raw" android experience with a few tweeks that is.
Being that its that time of year and tax return is working its way from the IRS to my bank account Ive been considering trading
my GS3 for the N4 but i just cant seem to put my finger on which device is for me so Im turning to the great people of this forum for help
I know the perks and the downfalls of each phone and the arguments on why one is better than the other so here's my stand point
I DONT NEED/USE
-Expandable storage
-LTE is not top priority
-Removable battery is nice but not necessarily a deal breaker
-Camera Im so/so about - not sure if the N4 has 0 shutter lag hoping someone can shed
some light on this for me it is one feature I do really enjoy on the S3 because i do have
kids that love to move around and are hard to get a good picture of but I feel both cameras are up to par
So all that being said I guess Im just looking for some outside opinions at this point
is it really worth me switching to the N4 or should i hold on to my cash and my S3
Again I do appropriate your time and help.

101hottest said:
First off thanks for your time,
That being said Ive gotten myself into a Brain boot loop that I just cant seem to get out of.
So here's the situation Im currently the proud owner of a Samsung GS3 which hands down is a fantastic phone
the phone is currently running CM 10.1 nightly with the KT747 kernel OC'd to 2.1 GHz Thanks to both devs for there fantastic work
so i guess you could say i have somewhat of a "raw" android experience with a few tweeks that is.
Being that its that time of year and tax return is working its way from the IRS to my bank account Ive been considering trading
my GS3 for the N4 but i just cant seem to put my finger on which device is for me so Im turning to the great people of this forum for help
I know the perks and the downfalls of each phone and the arguments on why one is better than the other so here's my stand point
I DONT NEED/USE
-Expandable storage
-LTE is not top priority
-Removable battery is nice but not necessarily a deal breaker
-Camera Im so/so about - not sure if the N4 has 0 shutter lag hoping someone can shed
some light on this for me it is one feature I do really enjoy on the S3 because i do have
kids that love to move around and are hard to get a good picture of but I feel both cameras are up to par
So all that being said I guess Im just looking for some outside opinions at this point
is it really worth me switching to the N4 or should i hold on to my cash and my S3
Again I do appropriate your time and help.
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While the Nexus 4 is beautiful and has higher specs in some parts, I'd recommend saving your money until "the next big thing" comes out like the galaxy s4 or the rumored Motorola X phone.
If you do prefer the stock android experience as that's what you're currently using, you should be fine as the S3 will be almost as good as if you were to get a Nexus 4.
Of course I don't own the devices but I've tried them both for a day or two (friend let me borrow) but I ended up staying with my Galaxy Nexus and decided to save my money as the performance jump isn't that great even from then. The next generation phones do show promise and could possibly be worth upgrading for.

Yea I'm really considering waiting since I did just upgrade to the S3 so if I waited it out the full 18 months they love to stick us with they will have the "super s" or "s5" by then. I think all in all I'll just purchase the Nexus 7.
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Well as already pointed out... I would say wait till the 14th... see what the s4 has to offer, then change your phone...
Personally, considering what you said in the first post... you don't want ANY of the extra things the s3 offers over the N4, but you ARE a fan of what the N4 offers which the s3 doesn't... being kindof vanilla android... being a cm10 user, although the s3 will be supported for a while I'm sure, the amount of time it takes to iron out all the bugs due to not having the Exynos source code, atleast for me was extremely frustrating... with the nexus your always ready to go with any custom rom... with the occasional bug here and there...
But if the s4 again has a exynos, the same dev difficulties will stay... not to mention the super delayed updates... so I personally think, wait for the S4... if it doesn't wow you then get the N4 because it seems its better suited to your needs...
As for getting a nexus 7 instead... google I/O is pretty close... its time for a new nexus 7inch tab so you will most likely see it then and avoid a buyers remorse getting an outdated tab now... rest assured there won't be a new nexus phone just yet... its too soon...
So wait a week and make your decision...
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Q

Not sure how much this will pertain to you, but here's my $.02.
Personally for me I like having the newest version of Android. While some of the bells and whistles of the themes are nice eye candy, I love the vanilla Android with allowing me to install those nice add-ons. While I don't mind loading roms, I don't want to be forced to do that in order to get the newest version within a reasonable amount of time (<a month or two). I bought the galaxy nexus on Verizon the day it came out. First time I ever waited in line before a store opened for a phone. I was so excited. You may or may not know this, but Verizon has taken the nexus name and completely trashed it. My hopes and dreams of having a phone that would always be on the cutting edge of Android was completely trashed because Verizon needed to "perform ample testing to insure the highest quality software", or some BS like that.
Now, I know what you're going to say. You've got a nexus, you're here on XDA, ROOT THAT THING! Yes, I have. I had the bootloader unlocked within 45 minutes of owning the thing, rooted 10 minutes after that. The problem is I bought a nexus to not be forced to F around with roms, unless I wanted to. Verizon has forced my hand to mess around with roms if I want the newest Android.
So, after that long winded answer, I personally would go with the N4 unless you can wait for the next nexus device. All I know is my next phone will be another Nexus, which I'll by directly from google and tell Verizon to go F themselves.
Best of luck.
Edit: I see you were mentioning the N7. I own one of those, bone stock. Did unlock the bootloader and rooted just to put on the circle battery mod. I love it, but personally I'd buy a N10. The 7 isn't that much larger then my galaxy nexus and I wish I had a slightly larger screen. IMO no need for cell-based service when you can teather it to your phone and get the same thing. It's a great device which has replaced taking a laptop with me on vacation. I bought the dongle thing to connect my SD card to it also, which is great for uploading pictures from my camera.

You should buy nexus 4 as it has largest development community and it is the phone which recieves software updates first and its a google certified phone
It has 4g capability
It has no expandability
But a really good camera
And is for only 430 usd
PLEASE HIT THANKS IF I HELPED

Cash is king. I'd just hold onto the S3 and wait for the new wave of devices that're coming, e.g. GS4 and One. Things that'll be noticeably better.

N4 buddy!!!
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Thanks you guys i really have taken all of your 2 cents into account and i think Im just going to have to stick with what my heart desires like my wife keeps telling me
Big shout out to
Beauenheim
DrunkFuX666
crackrk
Your inputs have been taken into great consideration over this decision
And as far as waiting for the GS4 I am a Samsung employe not that they let us know the details of the device before it is released but Im on my 3rd Samsung phone I think its time to switch it up besides my set father just lost his iPhone 5 to a tragic toilet accident that could really use a new phone so i think its time to "grab the bull by its horns" and finally get my hands on that sexy Nexus 4.

S3

Good deal, best of luck on your next phone adventure. I have to wait until the end of this year before I can begin mine. Hopefully the next nexus device will be released and may include an LTE radio, though I'll still tell verizon to go F themselves. Unless of course I can buy it from google directly and stay on verizon's network. I know, I can hear your laughing from here. :good:

Wait for s4 or the New google Phone

Decision
Im do for an upgrade as well soon..im thinking about htc one.. The only thing holding me back is the fact of how much hassle it is to root it.. One reason why i had got the s3 instead of the last htc one.. Before my s3 i had the evo 3d. It was such a pain in the ass to root.. When i switched to s3. I had it rooted in like 25 min.. I really liked that.. But i do miss htc platform..im on sprint so the nexus 4is not offered.. They did come out with galaxy nexus. I am excited to see what the s4 holds.. I dont know..lol

I hear the s4 will be released unfinished. Something about the CPU overheating so it getting something less powerful and curved glass is not ready so its getting regular glass. Plus no superamoled because they get that display to do full 1080p
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R: [Q] Im Just not sure what to do here S3 or N4
Well if you really do not care at all for all those cool features that make the galaxy s3 (and its awesome screen) somewhat great better than other phones....really theres no point in waiting for the galaxy s4 uts probably just gonna be faster..
You might as well get the nexus 4.
I have a feeling it would make your life more of a pain compared to the s3 but u sai u dont care about the cool specs...so go for the cheapest, no point saving up money
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