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Is this a good phone to buy?

Long story short, I hard bricked my Evo 3D because I flashed the boot image to the wrong partition by not properly editing the updater-script when trying to port Jellybean (very developer NOOB move even though I'm not one by a long shot). So I'm thinking about buying one on Amazon to tie me over until my upgrade next year, because right now, my parents' only option (until I get the money) is to let me use a Blackberry, its torture (-_-)... I've read up on this and I am thoroughly impressed with the specs given it was released in 2010, plus it has ICS Officially. So I just have a handful of questions!
1. How is the Developer scene here? Is it still very active?
2. How good are the 3G speeds on this (I'm not getting 4G)
3. How is battery life
4. Is the phone easily breakable (this determines if I buy a case or not upon my ordering)
5. Can I still have me an awesome gaming experience? I am the Asphalt 6 and Shadowgun type of guy, so gaming is a must.
6. How quickly can someone fill up that 512MB space? and has someone made script that moves the WHOLE app to an external SD or repartitioned the space to give 1GB space?
I'll be sure to add more questions should they come up...
Now I have read that this has no SD card slot, and this would have been a problem. But as of recently, I have become a cloud kid. My Music is on Google Play Music, I have a couple of Movies and TV Shows on my SD Card but I can put those on my box cloud storage, that means that I can use all 16 GB for Game caches and the few movies and shows I frequently watch.
I just want to know your opinion, and the pros and cons of the phone, alongside the questions I asked. Thanks in advance!

Developer scene is still pretty solid. Expect an additional boost in a few weeks when Jelly Bean arrives. 3G speeds and reception should be decent so long as you have a decent provider, it is more dependent on them than on the phone. Battery life is mediocre, though you can pull off 4 hours of screen time a day with a little bit of effort (and compromise). It is generally a pretty stubborn phone. It won't break straight off the bat, but being plastic it will tend to scratch easily from rough surfaces. The screen can take a fair bit of abuse so don't be scared about the lack of "gorilla glass" branding, plus it's curved which is both great to touch and means it's less prone to scratched glass. I've found a case to be good due to the phone being slippery, but have since decided to use it without one. If you intend to root the phone i'm sure the gaming experience will be a good one, and likely even more so with jellybean - though there are certain games that won't even install (some tegra and tablet based games i think, i don't game that much on the phone so don't take my word on this).
As for storage, you have 16GB in the phone classified as "sdcard". It is built in and non-replaceable, with no external sdcard slot. It is partitioned primarily into /system, /data and /sdcard. /system holds the android operating system and is plenty big enough even for development purposes. /data is approximately 1GB and holds the data for apps only, so you have 1GB worth of apps which you can keep installed on the phone. The /sdcard partition is around 15GB and formatted as FAT32, so you can throw all of your music, photos, videos and sd2ext (built in, not a seperate app) apps here, so any larger games would be thrown onto the sdcard if you choose so, generally giving plenty of room. The only drawback for me, personally, is the lack of room for music - but you seem to have yourself sorted there.
And as i said above, if you really want to get every benefit from this phone it should be unlocked and rooted. It loves being free. Otherwise it's just a Galaxy S.

Harbb said:
Developer scene is still pretty solid. Expect an additional boost in a few weeks when Jelly Bean arrives. 3G speeds and reception should be decent so long as you have a decent provider, it is more dependent on them than on the phone. Battery life is mediocre, though you can pull off 4 hours of screen time a day with a little bit of effort (and compromise). It is generally a pretty stubborn phone. It won't break straight off the bat, but being plastic it will tend to scratch easily from rough surfaces. The screen can take a fair bit of abuse so don't be scared about the lack of "gorilla glass" branding, plus it's curved which is both great to touch and means it's less prone to scratched glass. I've found a case to be good due to the phone being slippery, but have since decided to use it without one. If you intend to root the phone i'm sure the gaming experience will be a good one, and likely even more so with jellybean - though there are certain games that won't even install (some tegra and tablet based games i think, i don't game that much on the phone so don't take my word on this).
As for storage, you have 16GB in the phone classified as "sdcard". It is built in and non-replaceable, with no external sdcard slot. It is partitioned primarily into /system, /data and /sdcard. /system holds the android operating system and is plenty big enough even for development purposes. /data is approximately 1GB and holds the data for apps only, so you have 1GB worth of apps which you can keep installed on the phone. The /sdcard partition is around 15GB and formatted as FAT32, so you can throw all of your music, photos, videos and sd2ext (built in, not a seperate app) apps here, so any larger games would be thrown onto the sdcard if you choose so, generally giving plenty of room. The only drawback for me, personally, is the lack of room for music - but you seem to have yourself sorted there.
And as i said above, if you really want to get every benefit from this phone it should be unlocked and rooted. It loves being free. Otherwise it's just a Galaxy S.
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And my decision was solidified with the acquisition of jellybean. I can get a gnex experience for the most part without having to shell out so much money. I just need a gaming device (I'm going to buy chainfire for the coupe of tegra games I want) and an entertainment hub. I will buy a case asap, probably a ballistic case, an some other stuff, thank you so much
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One more thing to point out though, if you end up getting the 4G version (the only CDMA version, which i think is what Sprint uses) it may take longer to get JB and I can't comment on CDMA networks 3G. It will be approximately on par with most other phones running on the same network, though.

ognimnella said:
I just want to know your opinion, and the pros and cons of the phone, alongside the questions I asked. Thanks in advance!
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The Nexus range is the first to get the Jelly Bean update, so it's certain that Google is paying extra attention to it.
As a friend of mine (also owning a Nexus S) pointed out, the development activity is one of the best out there.
In terms of performance, I was happy with it in 99% of time, you can't pretend the same performance as a quad core phone but overclocking the phone at a safe 1200mhz makes it significantly faster.
All in all, it is a very good phone for the price you pay.
Good luck and let us know if you decided getting the phone.
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Harbb said:
One more thing to point out though, if you end up getting the 4G version (the only CDMA version, which i think is what Sprint uses) it may take longer to get JB and I can't comment on CDMA networks 3G. It will be approximately on par with most other phones running on the same network, though.
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I am aware of Sprint and their inability to push updates properly, so it's expected. I will be rooted and running a slim ICS Rom anyway
, so I can just install JB after they get the update it in rooted Rom style.
whoisrikk said:
The Nexus range is the first to get the Jelly Bean update, so it's certain that Google is paying extra attention to it.
As a friend of mine (also owning a Nexus S) pointed out, the development activity is one of the best out there.
In terms of performance, I was happy with it in 99% of time, you can't pretend the same performance as a quad core phone but overclocking the phone at a safe 1200mhz makes it significantly faster.
All in all, it is a very good phone for the price you pay.
Good luck and let us know if you decided getting the phone.
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I got a little excited yesterday and decided to do research on some other phones that could be possible contenders, but this phone takes home the crown. My parents said that because I broke the phone, I cover the expenses. So I did the math.
If I get a galaxy nexus now:
I have to buy out my contract ($100), and then buy the phone ($150) = $250
If I buy a galaxy S III now:
I have to buy out the contract (same) and buy the phone ($200) = $300
if I buy this phone:
But it from Amazon ($150) and transfer my number (free) = $150
The numbers say it all. I will get this phone . Plus, I want a nexus 7, so I need to save as much money as I can. I will wait until next year to get my upgrade to the gnex
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[Q] Moto G or Moto G 2nd?

I want to buy Moto G but don't know which version?
Motorola G or Motorola G 2nd.
I like the minimal design from the 1st.
The 2nd has larger screen and SD card, better camera and Android L upgrade.
But when asked Motorola Support if Moto G 2nd would have smaller battery life because of big screen, stereo speakers, SD card and Dual SIM, the answer was yes!
So I'm stuck. Also saw a lot of problems at Motorola support forum.
But of course, these people could be the minority.
What do you think?

The OG Moto G LTE is by far the best one. The Moto G 2 is a downgrade.

hotbld5 said:
The OG Moto G LTE is by far the best one. The Moto G 2 is a downgrade.
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But it's only available in 8 GB storage so that's a big drawback.

The original Moto G is still worth it, especially the 16GB model.
Now if you really need an SD slot, get the LTE version, even tho there is no 16GB version of it.

Nobody likes the 2nd?! I didn't expect that.
It is so tempting the Android L guaranteed upgrade.

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Nobody likes the 2nd?! I didn't expect that.
It is so tempting the Android L guaranteed upgrade.
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The 2nd gen is the same phone, but substantially bigger, which breaks the charm that the original had. I've seen only one by now and it really feels like a cheaper device. It's not bad though, just.......not what you've expected.

Get the 2nd G if screen size and SD card slot matters to you. Its basically the same device sans screen and SD card slot. Although if u rly want to save money, get the 1st gen 16gb model. Dont buy the 8gb.

Good feedbacks and good thread. I feel smart phones are not worth more than a year. Its a mad race and you are left alone sooner than you think.
--s5360 experience
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I like both phones. But...
I see that the 1st has more problems than the 2nd. At least from what I see at Motorola forums.
I like the design and size of the first (although for me the ideal size is 4.7 - 4.8').
The battery lasts longer and has Gorilla Glass. The forums moderator says that the 2nd also has Gorilla Glass, but they never updated the specs page.
But the 2nd will get Android L and this is very tempting. I asked the Support if the 1st model would get an upgrade and they "don't know".
Right now in my country, the 1st is available and the 2nd is available only as Dual SIM 8GB.
In 2 days 15.000 black version pieces were gone and only the white model of the 2nd is available for now.
Don't know what to do. I am without a phone these days because I bricked the old one trying to install Cyanogenmod.
So somebody could say that if the 1st doesn't get another update, you can root the phone and install CM or something else.
But I'm not an expert. This time I will not tuch the phone or make experiments.

I am pretty happy with my 2013 Moto, 5 inch phones are way too big for my one hand using habit.
For the android L, I believe the 2013 should also get the update, thought the way they put lasted devices getting L 1st is really tempting..

TIMMY E86 - 5.5" HD 1GB RAM 1.3gHz Quadcore - cheapest best chinese smartphone?

Hello,
I have recently ordered 2x TIMMY E86 . I have read only positive reviews on couple sites. I bought in November last year for my mother a Axgio WING W2 which has similar specs for 85$ and it has been working ever since perfectly. She plays daily her Candy crush-like games and has no problems. Battery lasts a day which is fine.
I got an email with this offer for TIMMY E86 and I checked it out. Generally, I don't even look at a phone/tablet unless it has at least HD screen. This has one, an IPS HD and it is a 5.5" screen. That is amazing. I pay more for less. The price is 74.99$ from Everbuying after using TME86 coupon and 500 EB points which I believe I received them free when I made my account. Beautiful, right? The internals are pretty much like WING's: Android 4.4, MTK6582 1.3gHz Quadcore Cortex A7, Mali400 GPU,1GB RAM, 16GB Internal memory(!!!), the camera is 5MP but after reading reviews it performs quite good, excellent Wi-Fi signal and sound, good phone signal. ~17500 AnTuTu score
This phone is sold everywhere and the price is around 90$ I think. I can't believe how it can be so cheap and deliver so much. If you are looking to buy it don't miss the limited offer from Everbuying. I don't know where you find any cheaper.
http://www.everbuying.com/product808509.html
I made this thread for potential buyers, owners and further owners (like me) for troubleshooting, questions, tweaks etc.

I ordered 2 of these actually myself and they really are nice phones for the price. I had no problems using it in the US with cricket although I had to make sure to set up the apn. I get HSPA+ speeds I believe too, although lte would be nice. It's really easy to root it too, I used iroot without a hitch. Be careful if you have it in your pocket with something else. I had a pencil in mine that left a weird rainbow pressure mark in the middle of the screen, but it's only visible at certain angles.
The speakers definitely sound a bit tinny though and I believe mine is actually 8gb. One gripe about the storage though is that there's 1gb for the system/main apps and there's the phone storage (not sure if this is 2 different things of memory or just the way it's partitioned) which causes the play store to claim it's out of space. However this isn't a big deal with the phone storage and sd card slot. The last part is the battery doesn't last too long and I wish it was easier to upgrade. I'm thinking of trying to find a similar phone with a higher mah battery at the same voltage, but I'll see how that pans out. That said this phone is awesome at around $80, I would definitely suggest it. Oh and if the price isn't too different on shipping, make sure to use DHL global express. I used it and it got to me in like 3 business days from China.

timmy e86
Hello, can you post some pictures from both cameras ?
GPS is working ?
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hribovc88 said:
Hello, can you post some pictures from both cameras ?
GPS is working ?
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It's takes okay pictures although the flash isn't too good. I'll see if I can post some pictures later (might be a while if I can). The gps works perfectly as well, actually better then my old phone (alctatel fierce 2).

Gyro and ROM
Hi, can you confirm it has gyroscope of 3 axis (simply, install any app for google cardboard and check if the camera moves as you turn the phone in any direction) also, do you know if there is any rom of lollipop for it or if timmy is gonna upgrade it?

Cody92 said:
I ordered 2 of these actually myself and they really are nice phones for the price. I had no problems using it in the US with cricket although I had to make sure to set up the apn. I get HSPA+ speeds I believe too, although lte would be nice. It's really easy to root it too, I used iroot without a hitch. Be careful if you have it in your pocket with something else. I had a pencil in mine that left a weird rainbow pressure mark in the middle of the screen, but it's only visible at certain angles.
The speakers definitely sound a bit tinny though and I believe mine is actually 8gb. One gripe about the storage though is that there's 1gb for the system/main apps and there's the phone storage (not sure if this is 2 different things of memory or just the way it's partitioned) which causes the play store to claim it's out of space. However this isn't a big deal with the phone storage and sd card slot. The last part is the battery doesn't last too long and I wish it was easier to upgrade. I'm thinking of trying to find a similar phone with a higher mah battery at the same voltage, but I'll see how that pans out. That said this phone is awesome at around $80, I would definitely suggest it. Oh and if the price isn't too different on shipping, make sure to use DHL global express. I used it and it got to me in like 3 business days from China.
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hi.
there is 16gb internal memory or 8gb?....the memory is partitioned?....if so the space for apps is 1 or 2 or 3gb?....
it's important to me if memory is all free for apps or not.if it's not can we repartitioning the memory?
thanks for your time.

I need a ROM!
Hi, i purchased on too! but i need Timmy E86 ROM anyone can backup his ROM device and give it to me ?
Thanks!

zikomoh said:
Hi, i purchased on too! but i need Timmy E86 ROM anyone can backup his ROM device and give it to me ?
Thanks!
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here is the firmware you are looking for http://www.needrom.com/download/timmy-e82/http://
create an account and login then you can download the firmware

Hi!
aloukay said:
here is the firmware you are looking for http://www.needrom.com/download/timmy-e82/http://
create an account and login then you can download the firmware
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That's for 82!
Or they are the same ?
Is it safe to flash wit with that ROM ?

Timmy E86 Backup
I've uploaded a E86 Backup over at needrom, Its pre-rooted and you will need to re-establish your own IMEI Numbers, I use MTK Droid Tools)

Hi I have a timmy m7 amd bought a memory sd card. How do you transfer data as you can't do this in apps or setting or storage. Plz help.

Hi, I know some people will not like this post, especially if their Timmy is working fine... but I have the Timmy E86 and its really bad, the battery lasts 2 seconds, the phone heats up too quickly (as in you put it on charge and two seconds later if boiling hot), it wont let me access any of the apps I downloaded except for facebook and facebook messanger, which at first I thought the apps were just being updated so I borrowed my partners phone as he has the same apps as me (but on an IPhone 4S) and they were working so I thought I would download them again and see if they work but after I uninstalled them I found out that I had no access to the play store even though I was on the Wifi (I live in Britian btw and I'm on Tesco Mobile) if you are considering this phone please way out all your options, there might be a better phone (personally for myself I love my Samsung Galaxy S7 but unfortunately that's had to go in for repairs due to me falling down the stairs and smashing the back on my phone and bending the left side of it, but surprisingly the front was fine xD)

Just came from the LG G4 to the Moto X

I had a Sprint LG G4 that died on me (known defect with the Sprint variant of the LG G4). Since Best Buy couldn't get anymore, they sent me a $650 gift card to cover the full value of the G4.
I initially ordered the 32 Gig Moto X Pure in White and instantly loved it. Best Buy didn't have any in the stores at the time so I bought it without seeing it first. Two days ago, my local BB got some of the 16 gig versions in black. I loved the black so much more than the white I exchanged it ( I have a 64 gig SD card so once Marshmellow hits, storage won't be an issue).
It is an amazing phone. Only two things I slightly miss from my G4 are:
a) Picture quality. In well lit outdoor situations, not much difference. In low lit situations, the LG G4 can't be beat. Not a deal breaker with the Moto X but there is a difference.
b) Battery life - The LG G4 seemed to have better battery life for me. The Moto X quick charge out of the box however more than makes up for it.
Things that I love more than the G4:
a) Build quality - It seems like a much more solid build over the G4. Maybe the removable back on the G4 was a reason.
b) Software - Of course the closer to stock, the closer to heaven. So much snappier than the LG skin that they put on top of android
c) Speakers - No brainer, way better sounding front speakers
Overall, I consider this and upgrade from the G4 (for me). Love this phone so far.

Hey, thanks for sharing your experience OP.
Have you run into any issues with space yet on the 16GB version?

smokarz said:
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience OP.
Have you run into any issues with space yet on the 16GB version?
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Not really. I have to sort of baby it a little though(transfer apps to SD, set camera to store pictures on SD, etc...) I am not a big mobile gamer so I only have a couple of games.
I think if the feature that allows you to integrate your SD card storage with the internal storage wasn't going to happen in 6.0, I would have gone with the 32 gig.

As soon as M arrives officially, make sure to use a UHS-II rated card to avoid app lag issues.

I'm actually debating between the G4 and the MXP. Would you say the MXP is the way to go?

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I'm actually debating between the G4 and the MXP. Would you say the MXP is the way to go?
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I've had the MXPE over a month now and I am completely happy with it. I've been with moto phones since the Droid X and this is the best. I can't really find any faults wilth it.

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I'm actually debating between the G4 and the MXP. Would you say the MXP is the way to go?
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Moto X. After using pretty much stock Android, I could never go back

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Not really. I have to sort of baby it a little though(transfer apps to SD, set camera to store pictures on SD, etc...) I am not a big mobile gamer so I only have a couple of games.
I think if the feature that allows you to integrate your SD card storage with the internal storage wasn't going to happen in 6.0, I would have gone with the 32 gig.
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Can you set the camera to automatically save photos to the SD card?
Or do you have to manually move them to the SD cards after you take the photos?

smokarz said:
Can you set the camera to automatically save photos to the SD card?
Or do you have to manually move them to the SD cards after you take the photos?
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You can set it to save to SD.
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That's funny because I've had the MXPE for for eight weeks and just got the LG G4 for my wife to replace her note 3. I got it free from Verizon without using an upgrade so I couldn't pass it up. Haven't played with it much but don't care for LG UI.
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lazerus06 said:
b) Battery life - The LG G4 seemed to have better battery life for me. The Moto X quick charge out of the box however more than makes up for it.
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So, I originally had the same opinion on the battery and similar results. I then upgraded to a custom ROM (TruPureX), and its a full night and day difference. I can now go 2 days+ without charging with very light usage. Stock ROM would only do about 1 day with the same usage. There are probably a few reasons why, but I am much happier now with the phone knowing there are ways to help the battery last longer!

Good choice.

What about Note 4 to the Motorola?
Will that be an upgrade? I dont know if i should pull the trigger or not?
Thanks
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tolymatev said:
What about Note 4 to the Motorola?
Will that be an upgrade? I dont know if i should pull the trigger or not?
Thanks
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For me, the biggest difference is the overall improvement in smoothness coming over to the MXPE. Using any Samsung device for a couple of months, you will start to notice it slowing down while transitioning between the most basic task. This is what I hated the most about the Note 4. I never used the s pen, but loved the screen and cam. I was pleasantly surprised how nice the screen looked on the MXPE, even compared to the Note 4. Also the cam on the MXPE has great potential for taking pics, I'm just not a huge fan of the stock cam app. Hopefully this will get addressed in a software update. The last thing about the Note 4(Samsung in general) is how long it takes them to push out updates. From what I've been reading, the MPXE is already in the soak testing stage, so it will more than likely go live b4 the end of Nov. Hope this helps:good:

tolymatev said:
What about Note 4 to the Motorola?
Will that be an upgrade? I dont know if i should pull the trigger or not?
Thanks
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Personal preference really. After having a phone that runs almost pure stock Android, I could never go back to a Touchwiz based phone.

I made the same switch but from an ATT Version. Other than the Camera, I love the Moto more in every way. Near-Stock android and no bloat just makes the phone feel a lot less cluttered and smooth. I didn't like LG's quick settings in the notification menu either because they felt like they took up more room than needed. Battery life with the same apps and all has been a lot better for me on the moto as well.

How would you compare the screen of the Moto X to the G4?

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How would you compare the screen of the Moto X to the G4?
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I have a LG G4 H811 and I am having a very hard time getting T-Mobile to unlock it. I like the G4, but I may have to sell it and get a unlocked phone. Moto X Pure may be my best option. I too am curious how the screen compares as well.

Coming form a g4 ,I do miss the cam ...that's about it..went to a custom rom(purex) and batt has been great....I love the pure Android.. The ui would lag with the g4...I would say hands down pure is a better phone ....

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How would you compare the screen of the Moto X to the G4?
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krking20 said:
I have a LG G4 H811 and I am having a very hard time getting T-Mobile to unlock it. I like the G4, but I may have to sell it and get a unlocked phone. Moto X Pure may be my best option. I too am curious how the screen compares as well.
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For what it is worth I came from the G4, I like the G4 screen much better. Deeper blacks, more vivid colors. The moto x is much brighter and is pretty much all screen. The blacks are more of dark gray and not real blacks IMO. But I prefer the moto X over the G4 in just about every other department. The camera of the G4 is better. MXPE is smooth and pure android just works.
I did make the move to the nexus but the pure is a great phone. Just pray you never need warranty replacement. I'm jumping through their stupid hoops now trying to get a replacement. So far it has been 7 days since they put a hold on my CC for the replacement. What a joke... Spent all this time on the phone for them to tell me that they are closed and I have to call again tomorrow...

i need a new phone similar to galaxy NOTE 5 but with micro sd and removable battery

are there any phones available for tmobile that have similar specs to galaxy note5 but also have removable battery and expansion slot?
mostly the screen size and resolution and camera.

btw this forum is the most cluttered of all forums I'm on. its loading very slow and almost impossible to navigate unless you spend your life here . its like driving in seattle. once you re off the main road you re pretty much ****ed and never getting out of back roads or you end up in 3-4 dead ends and same place you started.
not that you should be proud of it or anything

You could try a G4 or G3, those have both removable batteries and expandable storage. Also this loads just fine for me, might just be bad connection or something.
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yea that LG is the only one I m seeing
what about Motorola turbo2? are they bringing it to tmobile any time soon? it seems like a solid phone. too bad its Verizon only right now

thanks for moving I wasn't sure which category to post in. too many categories
are there any other brand phones I can get that would have full band coverage on tmobile?
don't they have some international phones that work with most networks?
I'm not stuck on Samsung and LG. as long as the quality is good brand doesn't matter.

International=/=more bands, if anything it means less compatible bands. A nexus 6 would have ALL the bands but no removable battery or expandable storage.
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