Hello,
I have a Verizon M8 that i'm using with AT&T. Is there a way to convert my Verizon M8 to AT&T so that I can get LTE? Or can I at least flash the AT&T radio? I noticed this video shows a method for converting Verizon M8 to Tmobile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GhybCyd4Pg He is getting Tmobile LTE with Verizon M8 no problem.
If someone can point me in the right direction that would be great!
This phone doesn't have the bands for At&t LTE. Best you would get is HSPA+.
Sam3gX said:
This phone doesn't have the bands for At&t LTE. Best you would get is HSPA+.
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Yes I know it doesn't have compatible bands for AT&T LTE. It doesn't have compatible bands for Tmobile LTE either, but someone demonstrated how to convert it so now he's using the Verizon M8 and is able to get Tmobile LTE without a problem. So there seems to be a way.
I figured it out. For anyone else out there that has a Verizon M8 and are using it on AT&T, you can convert your phone to the AT&T variant. I'm getting LTE but not constantly, it switches between LTE and HSDPA but it's staying mostly on LTE. Yay!
ImHavenHart said:
I figured it out. For anyone else out there that has a Verizon M8 and are using it on AT&T, you can convert your phone to the AT&T variant. I'm getting LTE but not constantly, it switches between LTE and HSDPA but it's staying mostly on LTE. Yay!
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So how did you get it to work ? On the verizon forum all there is, is for converting to tmobile lte and nothing on converting to get at&t lte. Also what lte bands of at&t are you running on ?
M9guy said:
So how did you get it to work ? On the verizon forum all there is, is for converting to tmobile lte and nothing on converting to get at&t lte. Also what lte bands of at&t are you running on ?
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Hey there. I posted how I did it somewhere in the AT&T forum. I'm not sure where the post is though as it's been a few months and I don't have the M8 anymore. I sold it and bought a One Plus One, then sold that and bought a Note 4, so that was a couple of phones ago.
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Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
Check out my thread on getting this phone to work on WIND (similar to T-Mobile, but in Canada). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323
madhad said:
Can we get the ATT HTC One XL unlocked to use it on T-Mobile USA? If yeah, whats the procedure?
Thanks.
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There's a ton of posts on the One X forum where people got it working using EDGE for data. Folks on this forum are trying to get the XL working for 3G data on Wind. If they do, it'll work on T-Mobile U.S. also.
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
Red5 said:
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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There's a huge conversation going on about what's published and what the radio's capable of. There's a hack for the G-Note that folks are going to try and make work on the One X (assuming the h/w supports the bands). With the hack, the G-Note lost a bunch of signal strength and battery life so it's far from perfect.
Red5 said:
The AT&T model does not have the correct bands to work on 3G/4G TMo. All you will get is Edge.
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Hardware-wise it has.
If you go to HTC USA website you see that it does. The Tegra 3 based international version doesn't, but Rogers/AT&T version does. There is another thread where someone purchased the Rogers version and tried to use it on WIND (which uses the same band as tmobile usa), and got no data (phone is unlocked, but no edge no 3G). If the problem is due to the lack of WIND/tmobile 3G bands, he would have at least get EDGE data. He contacted HTC Canada and HTC verified that the phone hardware indeed support those band, and the issue has to do with Rogers implementation of the software.
The same happened with AT&T Galaxy Note. It supports tmobile 3G band, but was disabled in software. People here are able to open up those bands by flashing new radio on it.
It is still not know whether the AT&T One X has T-Mobile 3G bands disabled in software or not, and if it does, whether it can be easily re-enabled. But the hardware support is there.
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
k87 said:
So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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So if I buy the att one XL outright (and dont do nothing else) and pop in the tmobile micro sim will it work..meaning make phone calls and all? And it'll just get edge right?
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No, it's locked to AT&T man.
cmaxwe said:
I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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As long as you purchase an unlock code and unlock the phone then it will give you edge + voice on Tmobile.
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I am using my Rogers HTC One XL on Tmobile right now and yes all you get is Edge + voice.
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This sucks. I'm on Tmobile and was holding out for the AT&T One X to use on Tmobile. Didnt want the One S because of the small screen. May have to go with the Galaxy Nexus for 400.00.
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Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
methodz said:
Well assuming you unlock it and live in a refarmed 1900 hsdpa area from tmobile can you get 3G that way?
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1900 hasn't been refarmed in my area but that would be the only option for somebody to use the One X on 3g/4g.
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Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
madhad said:
Is there or will there be an unlock for the one x so we can use it (phone calls, edge etc) on the tmobile network?
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Yes...most definitely. Once the AT&T version is officially released, you'll likely see numerous posts on how to unlock. There are some threads already starting if you search...
Here is an unlock site the says they can unlock the ONE X (AT&T Version) phone already. It costs in the neighborhood of $15, but that is a small price to pay to carrier unlock. If you live in a TMobile area that has reassigned their HSPA+ to the same 1900MHz Band AT&T uses it should be well worth being able to grab a tmobile sim for back up data or switching over completely. From what I have read, TMobile will be moving most of their markets HSPA+ to the 1900 MHz band in the not too distant future so this could be win win. I am going to give this a shot on May 4th when my phone is supposed to show up, I will post back with my success or failure.
Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Just a random thought that came into my head.
T-mobile is getting the One S, which also uses the S4. Given that the radio is integrated in the S4 chipset, and both the One X(AT&T) and One S are using the same SoC, they probably have the same capabilities with regards to the networks. In that case, it may "simply" be a matter of producing a modem driver with support for the T-mobile bands.
Disclaimer: This is all conjecture on my part, as I'm not entirely sure what is involved with cell phone radios and the more modern technologies.
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Sorry, that's a negative.
There are several variations of the Snapdragon S4. Some with LTE, some without.
In this case, the One X LTE has the S4 MSM8960 with LTE. The One S has the S4 MSM8260A, without LTE.
What exactly is WCDMA AWS band? Because on the HTC website it says the One XL has that. I thought that is both bands for tmobile 4G.
I'm thinking about switching to Verizon, and I saw that I could buy a sim card from them. My sensation is unlocked and was wondering if I inserted this sim card, would it work? Anybody tried this yet?
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It won't work because VZW uses 700mhz while tmobile only supports 850,1900,1700 and 2100
I believe people have had success with using verizon 4g on AT&T and vice versa. Also, I think people are able to use tmo phones on ATT's lte network since AT&T galaxy note owners are able to use it on tmo's 3g.
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It won't work because VZW uses 700mhz while tmobile only supports 850,1900,1700 and 2100
I believe people have had success with using verizon 4g on AT&T and vice versa. Also, I think people are able to use tmo phones on ATT's lte network since AT&T galaxy note owners are able to use it on tmo's 3g.
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There's also the whole CDMA-not-GSM and Sensation-not-LTE issues.
So with the refarm..can you clarify some things for me. An att phone will or won't get 4g hspa+42 on tmobile? If and when Tmobile gets LTE will an existing att 4glte phone will or won't work on tmobile future lte network?
If an att phone will get 4ghspa+42 and future tmobile 4glte
it would seem to make more sense to get an SIII unlocked att phone since it would future proof things in that it unlike a current tmobile version would eventually get 4glte?
No
I believe there are currently no att phones that get 4g on tmobile. I do think 1 or 2 tmobile phones that will work with att. Lte depend on the band of lte if it will work or not but most likely no
but if they do the refarm woudn't att bands work on tmobile?
Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue
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Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue
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Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.
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Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.
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Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???
BluePlanetMan said:
Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???
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Yes, AT&T and Rogers have maintained the same bands since they were partnered maybe 10 years ago. Fido is owned by Rogers, so it also uses the same, from GSM up to LTE.
Neither AT&T or Verizon use "global" LTE bands, because there aren't any. Almost every country/provider uses different bands. There's some crossover, but with LTE, buy a phone for the market you are in, because you probably couldn't afford the roaming rates abroad anyway.
Hey guys, I think I have a related question.. maybe you guys can help
I live in Toronto and Rogers is my wireless carrier. From my understanding, Rogers operates on band 4 (1700 / 2100 mhz) as well as 2600 Mhz.
I am thinking of gettnig the new DROID MAXX from Verizon. I have tried asking the Verizon / Motorola reps about whether the LTE would work in Canada but wasn't able to get a firm answer.
From the Motorola website, however, as well as from gsmarena.com, it looks like the DROID MAXX will have access to not only LTE 700mhz, but also at 1700 and 2100 mhz.
What are the chances that this phone will work on Rogers LTE?
Really hoping it could work out... let me know if you guys have any ideas..
So the S6 on Verizon is $600. I want a cheaper price, but I want LTE on T-Mobile. Does Verizon's S6 work with T-Mobile's frequencies?
http://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s6/#specs
nviz22 said:
So the S6 on Verizon is $600. I want a cheaper price, but I want LTE on T-Mobile. Does Verizon's S6 work with T-Mobile's frequencies?
http://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s6/#specs
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No.
felloffthetruck said:
No.
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What about AT&T and HSPA+ on T-Mobile?
nviz22 said:
So the S6 on Verizon is $600. I want a cheaper price, but I want LTE on T-Mobile. Does Verizon's S6 work with T-Mobile's frequencies?
http://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s6/#specs
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No.
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Why wouldn't it? The Verizon S6 supports AWS Band 4 which is what the majority of T-Mobile's LTE network is...
For sure Tmobile LTE will work on Verizon phones including iphone 5s 6 6+ Nexus 6 and LG G3
I have not tried the GS6 but it should work
I'm curious about it's GSM ability as well. I am going to London next month and am hoping I can buy a prepaid SIM there and be good to go. I am grandfathered on the unlimited data with Verizon so I paid full price for the phone, it should be unlocked or unlockable for use overseas, no?
guys i will answer for you.
I bought 3 SG6 from Verizon and none of them connect to 4g, fine with HSPA+, LTE, Edge, and everything else but forget about 4g
Lte is 4g
libuser said:
guys i will answer for you.
I bought 3 SG6 from Verizon and none of them connect to 4g, fine with HSPA+, LTE, Edge, and everything else but forget about 4g
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Yeah lol like guy above me said lte is 4g.
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On T-Mobile they appear to actually have 4G and LTE networks. Not sure what the differences are underlying the two, but it is actually a meaningful distinction with T-Mobile. I just recently did a "test drive" on T-Mobile and learned of this (it was rather confusing at first because I'm used to 4G = LTE on Verizon).
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On T-Mobile they appear to actually have 4G and LTE networks. Not sure what the differences are underlying the two, but it is actually a meaningful distinction with T-Mobile. I just recently did a "test drive" on T-Mobile and learned of this (it was rather confusing at first because I'm used to 4G = LTE on Verizon).
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Hspa+ is 4G on tmobile your phone won't say 4g it will say h+. Tmobile phones are just use the 4g icon instead of h+
Any definite answer as to if Verizon S6 will work on T-Mobile for voice, edge, 3g, and lte?