Any luck on getting sensation to work on Verizon? - HTC Sensation

I'm thinking about switching to Verizon, and I saw that I could buy a sim card from them. My sensation is unlocked and was wondering if I inserted this sim card, would it work? Anybody tried this yet?
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It won't work because VZW uses 700mhz while tmobile only supports 850,1900,1700 and 2100
I believe people have had success with using verizon 4g on AT&T and vice versa. Also, I think people are able to use tmo phones on ATT's lte network since AT&T galaxy note owners are able to use it on tmo's 3g.

bananajama said:
It won't work because VZW uses 700mhz while tmobile only supports 850,1900,1700 and 2100
I believe people have had success with using verizon 4g on AT&T and vice versa. Also, I think people are able to use tmo phones on ATT's lte network since AT&T galaxy note owners are able to use it on tmo's 3g.
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There's also the whole CDMA-not-GSM and Sensation-not-LTE issues.

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[Q] Can I unlock Infuse 4g to Verizon

Can I unlock Infuse 4g to Verizon ?
No this a gsm phone.
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Nope, this doesn't support CDMA technology, which is what Verizon and Sprint use. Unlocked, it will support GSM (SIM cards) like AT&T and T-mobile as well as foreign GSM providers. There are a couple of phones that do both, but to my knowledge AT&T has never had one.
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Hakunen said:
Can I unlock Infuse 4g to Verizon ?
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No. No GSM phone can operate on Verizon's CDMA2000 network. Some of Verizon's phones are dual-mode and can accept a GSM SIM, but it doesn't go the other way around.
The Infuse can operate on T-Mobile's network, but only at EDGE speeds - TMo uses different bands for 3G than AT&T does.

[Q] Can GS 4G do TMo & ATT 3G?

Hi, am leaving Sprint. Looking to get a used phone (no contract), that will work on monthly plans like TMo prepaid, Straight Talk (ATT)) w/out a contract. I'm reading good things about both the older Vibrant (SGH-T959), and the newer 4g (SGH-T959V). It's clear from my research that people are successuflly unlocking and able to go back and forth between TMo and ATT SIMs on the older Vibrant. What isn't clear to me is can this be done on the newer SGH-T959V?
Again, I don't care much about 4g. 3g on AT&T is fine. But while on TMo, the 4G would be nice.
Thanks!
diffdrummer said:
Hi, am leaving Sprint. Looking to get a used phone (no contract), that will work on monthly plans like TMo prepaid, Straight Talk (ATT)) w/out a contract. I'm reading good things about both the older Vibrant (SGH-T959), and the newer 4g (SGH-T959V). It's clear from my research that people are successuflly unlocking and able to go back and forth between TMo and ATT SIMs on the older Vibrant. What isn't clear to me is can this be done on the newer SGH-T959V?
Again, I don't care much about 4g. 3g on AT&T is fine. But while on TMo, the 4G would be nice.
Thanks!
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U can use 4g on tmobile but on AT&T you can only use 2g/edge no 3g
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Thanks Brandon. I will then pick up a used, older SGH-T959 (Vibrant), unlock it, and then enjoy the 3g flexibility of both ATT & TMo. It's strange, the T959V is supposed to support the same ATT 3g band as the regular T959, but I can't find proof of this anywhere.
diffdrummer said:
Thanks Brandon. I will then pick up a used, older SGH-T959 (Vibrant), unlock it, and then enjoy the 3g flexibility of both ATT & TMo. It's strange, the T959V is supposed to support the same ATT 3g band as the regular T959, but I can't find proof of this anywhere.
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oh wait...i didn't know that the vibrant was able to get 3g on ATT ..maybe the sgs4g can support 3g on ATT too..i really don't know..i never knew the vibrant could
Both can use 3g
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The captivate can only get edge on Tmobile
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mbernusg said:
Both can use 3g
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that's affirmative, i'm using it right now with 3G and is very fast
Yes, I also can confirm the 959V (T-Mobile 4g) is 3g on ATT and is very fast.
Not true...
brandond15 said:
U can use 4g on tmobile but on AT&T you can only use 2g/edge no 3g
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I have SGS4G and am using ATT. I have 3G with no issues...
posted original question here by accident
I am using unlocked 4g on Cincinnati Bell wireless and the 3g works fine.
However I have not been able to get 4g at all on my phone. When I put a Tmobile sim in it works fine one 4g.
I get a little over 2 mbps download on Cincinnati Bell 3g.
You can just unlock it, I'm using mine on att right now. Only thing is you have a backup sync for T-Mobile instead of att.
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Yes it can.
I tried my friend's AT&T sim card and it worked with 3G.
Hmm, has anybody gotten 4G on this phone with AT&T?
Does 4G work with an unlocked SGS 4G on AT&Ts network?
no.
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3G on AT&T will only work one one of the two UMTS bands: 1900 MHz.
Note that the Vibrant 4G doesn't have the 850MHz band (the other band that AT&T uses for 3G data.)
I've seen a posting that there's a way to activate the 850MHz band, but I have not verified that this works. If anyone has got this working so you're working on both bands on AT&T with your Vibrant 4G, let me know.
As an addendum to my own post, looks like the consensus is that while the Vibrant has an option of selecting the 850MHz UMTS band, it actually doesn't enable anything:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868478&page=2
Has anyone speed tested (w/ dual core tele) ST tmo?? Please share speed test results?? ..speed test (dual core) on Simple Mobile 4g plan appreciated too. I'm looking for these comparisons...Help please?
TIA!

Will the T-mobile version work on AT&T?

The Tmobile version looks like it has the 850/1900 bands to work on ATT's network? Does it in practice?
I know one problem might be the micro sim card idk if att uses those at all. I guesse u could probably just cut a regular one
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
Thongvilay said:
I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I agree the att one x will have the same awesome krait prossecor and it might have the same internals maybe making it possible to flash one s roms with the art one x. Because the att one x and international one x won't be able to flash each others Roms
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ATT uses micro sim, that's not an issue.
Frankly I find these LTE just getting to be ridiculously big. The HTC One S is the perfect size imo.
According to the FCC document for the t-mobile version, it's supports WCDMA 850 (ATT), 1700 (T-mobile) and 1900 (ATT,T-mobile). So I should fine on ATT's network as long as I put in the correct APN right?
Also looking for clarification on this...
It probably will, but it has to be unlocked and for that to happen, we need S-Off which could very well be a few months away. Why don't you buy the international, unlocked version outright? You also get your choice of colors (red/black as well instead of just blue/grey).
Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
jamesgg said:
Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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joshnichols189 said:
How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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Lol u mean unlocking phone to use it on att requires s off? NOOO. DOESN'T NEED TO BE S OFF. Just get unlock key and done.
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
mmceorange said:
Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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so do you know if the t-mobile version has both 850/1900 bands? or just one of them?
ksubedi said:
i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
hskharkunwar said:
How did you unlock it
please tell me
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I unlocked it through ebay. just search in ebay "htc one s unlock" its about 8USD. you pay and then you leave a message with your IMEI number
I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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Brooose said:
I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I live in India where I can't get it
Can I try Cellunlocker.net
There it is for $10
I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
motionUS said:
I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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ATT uses 1900, in some markets, ATT uses the mixture of both, 850 has better penetration in urban areas (tall buildings ...)
I'm interested in the phone, but i'm going to be using it on ATT. Can somebody that has the device tell us what is the FCC ID?
Quick trip to Phone Scoop website, i can see that there are two FCC ID's associated with the phone. NM8PJ40110 passed the tests using ATT WCDMA bands (band II 1900 and band V 850) and T-Mobile bands (band IV 1700/2100). NM8PJ40100 passed only ATT bands. Both doesn't show any reference to any test on WCDMA 2100 (band I), which probably means that the phone doesn't support the international 3G band.
In short, theoretically, the T-Mobile's version of HTC One S should work on ATT 3G bands (WCDMA band II and WCDMA band V), however, the phone would not support ATT LTE.
Since the hardware is there (FCC website proves it, unless if the official T-Mobile USA version got pushed with different FCC ID that i do not know), the phone should work on ATT 3G, but nothing prevents T-Mobile to disable the ATT 3G radios in their ROM. I think that S-OFF would give opportunity to enable the ATT radios (if they are blocked)
We will see ...
Take care,
From my experience, the ATT radio is not blocked and works fine.
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Thunderbolt to New Cricket 4G LTE

There's is now 4G coverage in the Houston area.My thunderbolt is already fully flash 3G and stable. Want to enable 4G on this phone. Cricket says requires sim card to work. The only sim cards are with the new LG and Samsung S3 by cricket. I know this is possible by using a unlocked 4G cdma LTE phone with sim slot. Does anyone have a unlocked phone on 4G cricket successfully working!!!
willowtree001 said:
There's is now 4G coverage in the Houston area.My thunderbolt is already fully flash 3G and stable. Want to enable 4G on this phone. Cricket says requires sim card to work. The only sim cards are with the new LG and Samsung S3 by cricket. I know this is possible by using a unlocked 4G cdma LTE phone with sim slot. Does anyone have a unlocked phone on 4G cricket successfully working!!!
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This is in the wrong thread. Verizon 4g will only work with Verizon. Verizon owns the entire 700mhz band that 4g functions off. This makes it so no other network can use Verizon's 4g
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disconnecktie said:
This is in the wrong thread. Verizon 4g will only work with Verizon. Verizon owns the entire 700mhz band that 4g functions off. This makes it so no other network can use Verizon's 4g
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I dont think this is true as verizon can still lease their spectrum to other carriers like Straight Talk to piggy back off their network. The biggest problem for him is going to get a non-approved 4g device on verizons network. Verizon does not want people taking flagship devices to other discount carriers. Networks like Cricket dont actually own any spectrum, they just lease it from the bigger carriers at a discount. But verizon only allows a select group of ESN's to connect to it, usually for crappier phones. Some people will go so far as to clone their ESN to get it to work, but that requires special tools developed for your phone and can be quite tricky.
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I dont think this is true as verizon can still lease their spectrum to other carriers like Straight Talk to piggy back off their network. The biggest problem for him is going to get a non-approved 4g device on verizons network. Verizon does not want people taking flagship devices to other discount carriers. Networks like Cricket dont actually own any spectrum, they just lease it from the bigger carriers at a discount. But verizon only allows a select group of ESN's to connect to it, usually for crappier phones. Some people will go so far as to clone their ESN to get it to work, but that requires special tools developed for your phone and can be quite tricky.
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Well its pretty obvious that Verizon isn't leasing any part of their lte spectrum since there isn't one single optional carrier that a Verizon 4g phone will work with.
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Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile
willowtree001 said:
Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile
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So far no one has managed to do this on the thunderbolt. Its not like other 4g phones and is the only one with svdo enabled.
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willowtree001 said:
Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile
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Can the bands the radio receives be changed by software? Isn't the radio physically limited to a range of frequencies?
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I was pretty sure that the radio was locked in to stay at the 700mhz spectrum that Verizon owns. I wouldn't be the least but surprised if it were locked in using hardware as well.
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If memory serves, Cricket's LTE is courtesy of Verizon, I read it I think on Engadget a while back... Either way, it goes along with Verizon's Rural Coverage Plan to work with regional carriers to bring LTE to places where people would never expect it.
T-Mo works with AT&T phones because both are 1800Mhz or whatever for EDGE, so I would think if Sprint LTE is 700Mhz....
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jimmyco2008 said:
If memory serves, Cricket's LTE is courtesy of Verizon, I read it I think on Engadget a while back... Either way, it goes along with Verizon's Rural Coverage Plan to work with regional carriers to bring LTE to places where people would never expect it.
T-Mo works with AT&T phones because both are 1800Mhz or whatever for EDGE, so I would think if Sprint LTE is 700Mhz....
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Verizon owns the upper c block of the 700mhz spectrum. Read this.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=187&p=230
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jimmyco2008 said:
If memory serves, Cricket's LTE is courtesy of Verizon, I read it I think on Engadget a while back... Either way, it goes along with Verizon's Rural Coverage Plan to work with regional carriers to bring LTE to places where people would never expect it.
T-Mo works with AT&T phones because both are 1800Mhz or whatever for EDGE, so I would think if Sprint LTE is 700Mhz....
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I doubt Sprint is using 700 they are probably using spectrum they got from the nextel acquisition (not looking stupid now lol). And of Sprint was using 700 and the had an lte roaming agreement, which they don't, with Verizon..... sprint lte phones would be working in allot more places, which they aren't.
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http://m.networkworld.com/news/2012/012312-lte-spectrum-255122.html?page=2
If the info from the above article is correct you can see Sprint lte is not compatible with Verizon or ATT. In my searching I also found that apple made 3 different variants of the iPhone 5 with different lte frequency combinations.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/09/iphone5-lte-model/
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willowtree001 said:
Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile
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those other Verizon 4g Lte phones, like the moto Bionic, have radios and antenna that support those GSM frequencies, and the engineering software tools to perform those tasks have been leaked.
Afaik, but I haven't looked in a while, after making those seem edits it unlocks Gsm/Edge for Att, T-Mobile and global roaming. I think it also enables hspa for Att but not T-Mobile due to frequencies the bionic's radio supports or doesn't support. It does not enable Lte for any other carrier.
its my understanding that the radio chips and antennas in the TB only support Cdma/Evdo and VZW's upper 700mhz block LTE
It also doesnt help that ril for the thunderbolt is closed source because of the svdo capabilities in it.
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Anyone try getting/buying a sim card from cricket?
You would need a SIM for the phone to work at all, right, since it is needed for 3G and 1X on Verizon?
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You would need a SIM for the phone to work at all, right, since it is needed for 3G and 1X on Verizon?
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The sim would be needed for 4g to work. Cricket will provide you with a sim but you will still only get 3g because they can't get Verizon's 4g signal.
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But my phone doesn't work at all without a SIM, is it different for cricket?
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I think to use the phone with cricket you will have to have the sim but still won't be able to use 4g.
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Quick Question
"There's is now 4G coverage in the Houston area.My thunderbolt is already fully flash 3G and stable. Want to enable 4G on this phone. Cricket says requires sim card to work. The only sim cards are with the new LG and Samsung S3 by cricket. I know this is possible by using a unlocked 4G cdma LTE phone with sim slot. Does anyone have a unlocked phone on 4G cricket successfully working!!!"
If you don't mind, I was hoping you might be able to tell me how you flashed your thunderbolt to Cricket. I have tried many times unsuccessfully, and to be honest I'm absolutely stuck. I'd appreciate any and all help I can find. Thank you so much Have a wonderful day!
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Dave

How to Convert Verizon M8 to AT&T

Hello,
I have a Verizon M8 that i'm using with AT&T. Is there a way to convert my Verizon M8 to AT&T so that I can get LTE? Or can I at least flash the AT&T radio? I noticed this video shows a method for converting Verizon M8 to Tmobile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GhybCyd4Pg He is getting Tmobile LTE with Verizon M8 no problem.
If someone can point me in the right direction that would be great!
This phone doesn't have the bands for At&t LTE. Best you would get is HSPA+.
Sam3gX said:
This phone doesn't have the bands for At&t LTE. Best you would get is HSPA+.
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Yes I know it doesn't have compatible bands for AT&T LTE. It doesn't have compatible bands for Tmobile LTE either, but someone demonstrated how to convert it so now he's using the Verizon M8 and is able to get Tmobile LTE without a problem. So there seems to be a way.
I figured it out. For anyone else out there that has a Verizon M8 and are using it on AT&T, you can convert your phone to the AT&T variant. I'm getting LTE but not constantly, it switches between LTE and HSDPA but it's staying mostly on LTE. Yay!
ImHavenHart said:
I figured it out. For anyone else out there that has a Verizon M8 and are using it on AT&T, you can convert your phone to the AT&T variant. I'm getting LTE but not constantly, it switches between LTE and HSDPA but it's staying mostly on LTE. Yay!
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So how did you get it to work ? On the verizon forum all there is, is for converting to tmobile lte and nothing on converting to get at&t lte. Also what lte bands of at&t are you running on ?
M9guy said:
So how did you get it to work ? On the verizon forum all there is, is for converting to tmobile lte and nothing on converting to get at&t lte. Also what lte bands of at&t are you running on ?
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Hey there. I posted how I did it somewhere in the AT&T forum. I'm not sure where the post is though as it's been a few months and I don't have the M8 anymore. I sold it and bought a One Plus One, then sold that and bought a Note 4, so that was a couple of phones ago.

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