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[Q] Issues with A701 upgrade to 4.1.1

Hi All,
Really sorry to post a new thread about this, but I am unable to add a post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911437
So, followed Member - OPs guide to manually update my A701 to JB.
Simply put, the patch would not install (failed with a permissions error)
Put JB on anyway (just to see) and this won't let me get past the choice of language and location (Also, at this stage, SuperUser tells me system is requesting SuperUser access and whatever I do, it accepts)
So, used CWM to put the 4.0.4 build back, and that worked fine - though according to About Tablet I am actually on 4.1.1
I see improved UI speed and responsiveness, it's all looking great.
But Play Store won't run. Tried adding the latest version, still 'unfortunately stops' Also Nova refuses to run.
Has anyone run into any of these issues (Patch not installing, Play Store failing) and have any ideas what I can do to fix them?
Really sorry again for making a new thread in the wrong forum, I didn't see a choice (other than waiting!)
Thanks in advance,
Al

misteral1970 said:
Hi All,
Really sorry to post a new thread about this, but I am unable to add a post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911437
So, followed Member - OPs guide to manually update my A701 to JB.
Simply put, the patch would not install (failed with a permissions error)
Put JB on anyway (just to see) and this won't let me get past the choice of language and location (Also, at this stage, SuperUser tells me system is requesting SuperUser access and whatever I do, it accepts)
So, used CWM to put the 4.0.4 build back, and that worked fine - though according to About Tablet I am actually on 4.1.1
I see improved UI speed and responsiveness, it's all looking great.
But Play Store won't run. Tried adding the latest version, still 'unfortunately stops' Also Nova refuses to run.
Has anyone run into any of these issues (Patch not installing, Play Store failing) and have any ideas what I can do to fix them?
Really sorry again for making a new thread in the wrong forum, I didn't see a choice (other than waiting!)
Thanks in advance,
Al
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Mate, it doesn't sound good.
What I would do, at this point, is Fastboot the 4.1 image again.. And stay the heck out of CWM. If you Fastbooted the 4.0.4 image, and you still have it showing 4.1, then you have a serious issue. So boot to fastboot, and try it again. Clearly, whatever you did with CWM, didn't work,
Installing a rom from CWM, requires certain things to be done, either in the install script, or via CWM.
Most notably, Formatting User data, cache, dalvik, system, and data. If any of these do not get done, chances are, the rom install will not go good. The basic install script, generally only formats System and Flexrom. This is because Acer distributes a full rom with the understanding there is nothing on it. Most rom modders know this, which is why they give extra instructions via cwm.
The big thing, is when you boot your tablet, is if it says which bootloader you are on. So you have to look,. You want to be on the JB bootloader.
MD

Thanks for the response MD,
A tiny bit unsure how to proceed. I understand everything that you said (well, I think I understood correctly!)
I have in fact tried to fastboot the 4.1.1 image again, and again I am stuck on the language and location screen (did this last night before giving up for the day)
I have read and understood "Stay away from CWM" (and I know that it is in this case only - have used CWM on my Gnex without issue)
Please forgive me if what I am about to write is ridiculous - this is kind of where we'll see whether I understood correctly or not.
I'm thinking that if the various areas were not wiped, and that could be the reason for the snafu, then it would be worth going into CWM (which I have been warned to stay away from, and which I would stay away from except for this one thing) and formatting the user data, system, dalvik etc, then applying either the 4.1 or 4.0.4 to result in a working tablet.
Or possibly flashing the bootloader to make sure it is JB
Or going back to the weird 4.0.4/4.1.1 hybrid which works but doesn't allow Play Store and finding a way around that issue.
Mate, I'm not sure which way to go at this point!
Fastbooting 4.1 is a dead end at the moment (but could that be a bootloader issue....)
Fastbooting 4.0.4 gives me the hybrid (though I can check this again tonight)
BTW, the only CWM Rom work I have tried to do has been with the patched update (second downloadable file I think) - everything else has been done via ADB
So.....CWM to wipe/format caches? (I'm thinking 'NO! DID YOU NOT HEAR WHAT I SAID ABOUT STAYING AWAY FROM CWM????' but I'm asking anyway!)
Flash a new bootloader on? If so, any idea where I would find it (will obviously search here and Google)
Thanks anyway, and thanks in advance if you have any more advice. I really do appreciate the support!
Al

Well Al,
This is perplexing to say the least. Clearly fastbooting the 411 results in frozen at the wizard. My question, when you have the unlocked bootloader, does it say JBxxxxxxxx unlock mode when you boot the tab? Because it should. If it doesn't, then you're still on ICS bootloader. And will have to do the CWM thing to get JB installed. The 411 image flash, is to get a rooted version.
And this is the point. Personally, I do not trust the CWM's at this point. That's just me (already bricked 1 tab 3 months ago with a faulty CWM) I know the folks with ICS are using Pawitp's CWM, and haven't reported issues. But I don't know if they are doing wipes or not.
As with the 404 image, well, why playstore doesn't work is perplexing. You could try reinstalling the playstore via manual method (root required). Which is to delete the vending.apk, install a new vending.apk (making sure permissions are the same as the other files), then reboot. Go to settings, wipe the playstore cache's. Then try Playstore again. This was an old method we used with market issues in HC.
Personally, I feel the issue is with the wipes before running the patch. But I would hate you do the wipes and formats, then discover the emmc chip bricked. So it's 50/50.
But heck, you have warranty. Just install some update.zip, and it resets your bootloader so service doesn't complain
Wish I could give you a definitive answer, but these processes are too new.
MD

Keep warranty
Moscow Desire said:
But heck, you have warranty. Just install some update.zip, and it resets your bootloader so service doesn't complain
MD
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Can you make a short tut how to replace the old unlocked Bootloader?
My Tab has some Problems with the Display so it need a service ...
witch cwm to use?
witch update.zip?
remove cwm and su if necessary
Android Version: 4.0.4
Baseband: 11.810.922.00
Kernal:2.6.39.4+
Image:ACER_AV043_A701_RV08RC02_EMEA_DE
Build: ACER_AV043_A701_1.017.00_EMEA_DE

Hi MD,
Thanks for such a speedy and useful response!
Warranty: nope! I'm in China, bought the tablet in Shanghai (now way down south in Shenzhen) and it was a dodgy deal to say the least. I suspect they were being lifted from the factory. No complaints from me about this, or about any difficulties caused by rooting/flashing/CWM. My choice of action all the way along and I am aware of the risks
Just flashed 404 again and it is fine so far, again very nice and smooth. Going to look at the Play Store and see how it behaves, see what I can do as far as vending.apk is concerned (although I'm lost when it comes to permissions. Obviously I know what permissions are in tech terms, but no idea where they would be set, how to change them, what to use as a reference) I figure this is the path of least resistance for right now.
Then I'm going to see if I can apply the standard A701 update to JB (which I won't be able to because of rooting/unlocking but I will fiddle around) and see if I have any joy.
Got my keen eyed gf to check the message on boot, you were right that with the 411 image applied it still had an ICS bootloader, so that's good to know if I want to try going back to the flashed JB image. However, I have no idea how to flash the JB bootloader/kernel, and the CWM process for the patched update fails each time (despite editing the first line of the necessary file in META-INF/Google/Android)
So, I will keep you up to date with progress. Fingers crossed!!!
Al

Quick update.
Play Store seemed fine for quite a long time (although I didn't download anything, I was able to browse no problem)
Went to install my back up of Nova, and of course had to tick 'Unknown Sources'
As soon as I did that, allowing installation of apps not downloaded from the play store, I got the 'Unfortunately Play Store has stopped working' message. Before I installed anything else, immediately I ticked that box.
Unticked it, but still not working - installed Nova, not working.
So....

misteral1970 said:
Quick update.
Play Store seemed fine for quite a long time (although I didn't download anything, I was able to browse no problem)
Went to install my back up of Nova, and of course had to tick 'Unknown Sources'
As soon as I did that, allowing installation of apps not downloaded from the play store, I got the 'Unfortunately Play Store has stopped working' message. Before I installed anything else, immediately I ticked that box.
Unticked it, but still not working - installed Nova, not working.
So....
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Well, seems like Nova is the culprit. I assume you are talking about nova launcher? Or nova the game?

Hi MD
Yes, Nova launcher but no, it's not the culprit. At least I don't think so.
The play store stopped as soon as I ticked 'Install from unknown sources', before I installed Nova.
Very odd.
Quick questions:
1) Any advice/links/downloads for changing to JB bootloader if I apply the 4.1.1 again? Given that I cannot run the patched update/flash from CWM, I am guessing I would need to directly install/flash the bootloader from ADB...
2) Don't kill me for asking this. I know to stay away from CWM, I have seen you post it a good few times here, I heed the warning....BUT.....
Given that I have CWM installed and it's working ok (apart from failing to apply updates) - I have 6.0.1.4 - many of the guides to updating the 701 say it needs 6.0.1.1. Would the slightly more recent version of CWM make a difference in terms of success or failure of the update? Update is failing with a 'set_perm:some changes failed' very early in the update.
Seriously, I am being extremely wary of CWM, it's just that currently I have a slightly disabled tablet and it would be great to get this sorted.
Thanks, once again, for all your help,
Al

Update again, put 404 back on (after issue with play store and unknown sources)
Opened play store, downloaded Apex launcher - all good.
Ran Apex, all good....then suddenly Play Store stops, Apex stops, never to return.
With 404 img on, About Tablet still says 4.1.1
The saga continues!!

Aaaand that's the end of that!
Put 4.1.1 back on, pushed the boot.img from the official update.
Now no CWM, so it seems no recovery mode....if I try to get there by volume down and power on, it goes into update mode.
And of course neither the official update nor the 'patched' one will apply.
Can boot to the first start screen (language/location) but can't get any further.
Maybe I can find a service center here in Shenzhen who can sort it out.....as I said before, no harm no foul, I knew the risks!
Thanks one more time MD for all your support and advice )

Or is it......?
Didn't give up, didn't surrender. Found out how to get into fastboot using frantic waggling of the rotation lock.
Just flashed 404 on again, waiting for boot to finish. Might still have a semi-usable tablet! Then I just wait till a 100% working JB manual update surfaces!

misteral1970 said:
Or is it......?
Didn't give up, didn't surrender. Found out how to get into fastboot using frantic waggling of the rotation lock.
Just flashed 404 on again, waiting for boot to finish. Might still have a semi-usable tablet! Then I just wait till a 100% working JB manual update surfaces!
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HA HA, you found the User Data wipe.... Yeah, a little known secret from the 500 forums.
MD

It's so strange....so now I'm back to having flashed 404 but the tablet thinks it's 411.
Play store was fine for about 40 minutes, I quickly got chrome, currents and BBC news.
I turned off the Acer ring and play store died...
But here I am, typing to you on the tablet and it's fine. And what a change in performance. It's most noticeable in currents..the increase in speed and smoothness when scrolling between pages makes it at least ten times better than before.
But the last flash was 404....weird....
I'll leave it like this for now. No market but at least it's not semi bricked!

Super Quick update - in lieu of finding a sparkly copy of vending.apk, I tried wiping data and uninstalling Play Store (reverting to factory)
It duly downloaded a new version, and worked fine.
Then I popped Apex on, the GPS got busy, and Apex and Play Store died.
The wipe/uninstall worked again for Play Store so to be honest, I am currently quite happy. Ok, it's not perfect, but if I can quickly reinstate Play any time it fouls up, I can still build up a decent amount of apps to make the thing useful.
And seriously, whatever changes are there (considering the weird 404/411 hybrid) the performance is incredibly enhanced. All the faffing has been worth it, it is finally the tablet that it should have been from the start.

misteral1970 said:
Super Quick update - in lieu of finding a sparkly copy of vending.apk, I tried wiping data and uninstalling Play Store (reverting to factory)
It duly downloaded a new version, and worked fine.
Then I popped Apex on, the GPS got busy, and Apex and Play Store died.
The wipe/uninstall worked again for Play Store so to be honest, I am currently quite happy. Ok, it's not perfect, but if I can quickly reinstate Play any time it fouls up, I can still build up a decent amount of apps to make the thing useful.
And seriously, whatever changes are there (considering the weird 404/411 hybrid) the performance is incredibly enhanced. All the faffing has been worth it, it is finally the tablet that it should have been from the start.
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Well, good news then. I think it's an interesting set-up. Hybrid. Still not sure though, why it pulls 411 from the build.prop as it should have been changed when you flashed the 404image. But honestly, after reading the OP's steps, I believe he references going back to 404 via CWM, and not fastboot. This of course would mean installing a full 404 original rom. I'll have to look over my JB system dump and see where the other prop would be. Maybe something changed in JB.
So if you can live with it, it's probably better to leave it be till we come up with something more definitive.
MD

"So if you can live with it, it's probably better to leave it be till we come up with something more definitive"
Yeah, totally agree.
Mate, seriously, thanks for the support and advice on this. It makes a big difference. Even as I sat there last night with what seemed to be an unusable tablet, being able to chat to you about it meant that at least I didn't feel completely adrift!
Big big thanks

Note 10.1 s pen not working at all

Hey guys, been a long time lurker here and just encountered my first issue, so made an account to hopefully get some advice.
I received the note 10.1 8010 (UK) as a gift for Christmas. I was disappointed to see it was running 4.0, when devices like the Nexus 7 are already on 4.2. And Germany had the 4.1 update for over a month. Samsung as always refuse to give a solid answer.
I followed a guide to install the German 4.1.1 update. I first installed the German version of ICS via Odin. I then applied the update.zip from here:
HTML:
d-h.st/lLB
Prior to this, I rooted the device, but I believe the above process removed the root anyway.
After my device rebooted, the S Pen isn't working at all. It recognises when I take the pen out, but I cannot use it. It doesn't do a thing. I've read about 1,000 forum threads and cannot find an answer, as to how I can get it working again.
I tried deleting cache and user data, then reapplying the update.zip to no avail.
When I boot up in to recovery mode, it does come up with a message about CSC and then the little drop falls over and I have the usual options.
Any idea what I need to do, to get my S Pen working again? Or what I've done wrong?
Many thanks

This is how I rooted the device.
HTML:
rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-note-10-1-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-10-1-easiest-methodcwmmethod-2/
I have a feeling this is the "root" of the issue. I'm not sure how to remove it.
I know previously I wasn't able to change my CSC via CSC switcher, but I am now.
So I guess installing the German ICS and then update.zip, hasn't completely undone whatever rooting it above did.

Removed the custom recovery and the pen started working again. At this point I was back on ICS, trying to see whether JB was the issue.
Now update.zip will not apply, despite the fact I'm on the German ICS stock. I get an error status 7 in package.zip.
This is the worst experience I've ever had, with any device in my life.
If this wasn't a present I'd have smashed it in to tiny pieces. I will never buy a non Nexus device ever again.
I know this may seem trivial, but when I'm running 4.2 on all other devices, I don't want to be stuck on 4.0 with my brand new tablet.
Samsung have really put me off ever buying their devices in the future.

Tehkseven said:
Removed the custom recovery and the pen started working again. At this point I was back on ICS, trying to see whether JB was the issue.
Now update.zip will not apply, despite the fact I'm on the German ICS stock. I get an error status 7 in package.zip.
This is the worst experience I've ever had, with any device in my life.
If this wasn't a present I'd have smashed it in to tiny pieces. I will never buy a non Nexus device ever again.
I know this may seem trivial, but when I'm running 4.2 on all other devices, I don't want to be stuck on 4.0 with my brand new tablet.
Samsung have really put me off ever buying their devices in the future.
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This a pretty bummer situation. Sorry you're dealing with it.
I find this interesting, as I followed the exact same procedure to root as you. I haven't experienced any pen issues though.
Could it be the 4.1 you flashed?
This is one of my fears too, so I really hope this can be solved.

I finally managed it.
I downloaded a different German ICS from a different guide and this time it worked no problems.
The one that worked, had a file name: N8010XXALI3_N8010OXAALI3_DBT
Update.zip worked first time after I installed the above ICS.
Hope that helps.

[Q] Can't update after downgrade to ICS

hi, i just got my tablet back from repairs and i asked them to install ICS if they had to reset the firmware, and they did. now my problem is that i want to update to the 4.2 JB that came out (while my ASUS was in repairs for 3 WEEKS) but i can't. when i try to update, it just says "no update found". i have already talked to their "experts" and he just kept saying "oh, it come to your tablet when it ready" I have also tried to download the update from their site, but then when it tells you what version you need by looking at the build number, i noticed mine was IML74K.WW_epad-9.4..... and shouldn't it be something more like US_epad-9.4.....? i tried to install it anyways but it never detected it on the sd card. so then i tried to just use fastboot and flash it to the device, but when i entered the boot menu, THERE WAS NO OPTION!! In fact, there was only 2 options, wipe data, and boot android. there was no usb or RCK (or whatever it was) option. i also have several other problems, but i'll leave them for another day and another post, sense they may be related
Any help would be awesome sense it's obvious I'm not going to get much help from ASUS. Let me know if you need any other info too!
Thanks in advanced!!
Jake

Snakester15 said:
hi, i just got my tablet back from repairs and i asked them to install ICS if they had to reset the firmware, and they did. now my problem is that i want to update to the 4.2 JB that came out (while my ASUS was in repairs for 3 WEEKS) but i can't. when i try to update, it just says "no update found". i have already talked to their "experts" and he just kept saying "oh, it come to your tablet when it ready" I have also tried to download the update from their site, but then when it tells you what version you need by looking at the build number, i noticed mine was IML74K.WW_epad-9.4..... and shouldn't it be something more like US_epad-9.4.....? i tried to install it anyways but it never detected it on the sd card. so then i tried to just use fastboot and flash it to the device, but when i entered the boot menu, THERE WAS NO OPTION!! In fact, there was only 2 options, wipe data, and boot android. there was no usb or RCK (or whatever it was) option. i also have several other problems, but i'll leave them for another day and another post, sense they may be related
Any help would be awesome sense it's obvious I'm not going to get much help from ASUS. Let me know if you need any other info too!
Thanks in advanced!!
Jake
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The stock 4.2 (10.6.1.8) has an assert that will only allow it to be installed from 10.4.2.20. If memory serves me correctly ICS does not have the usb icon until unlocked. Also the new 4.2 bootloader only has three icons - no usb.
Are you unlocked? Most units that come from repair are not and can't be unlocked.
With all the unresolved issues on 4.2 I would not put it on my tablet at this time. There are many bricks waiting for a resolution.

thanks, that helped fix it!
tobdaryl said:
The stock 4.2 (10.6.1.8) has an assert that will only allow it to be installed from 10.4.2.20. If memory serves me correctly ICS does not have the usb icon until unlocked. Also the new 4.2 bootloader only has three icons - no usb.
Are you unlocked? Most units that come from repair are not and can't be unlocked.
With all the unresolved issues on 4.2 I would not put it on my tablet at this time. There are many bricks waiting for a resolution.
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I downloaded the 4.1 firmware and it detected it and installed it right away. I don't know why they couldn't tell me that when I called, but it fixed the problem. And I know you said not to, but I installed 4.2 anyways because I was too curious, and I have personally found no problems and like the new features.

[Q] how to update a 5.0.1 rooted?

Hey community,
after updating my 5.0 LTE 32 Shield Tablet some month ago and rooting it, I came to the conclusion that I don't really need root, but would like to continue receiving OTAs and have a device that just works.
Prio1:
Have a tablet with the latest updates installed.
Prio2:
As 1, but rooted.
I have made a apps+sysapps backup with Titanium.
What do you recommend as the next step?
Thank you very much.
All the best, Esshahn

Some additions:
1. I noticed I'm actually having 5.0 on my Shield. It's the 5.0.1 update plus the nVidia stuff that comes up all the time in the notification center.
I really just want to undo all root and whatnot actions and have a right out of the box experience on my Shield. I already did some stupid stuff (factory reset) and therefore lost my personal data anyway, so there's nothing to lose.
I noticed this forum isn't really active. If anyone doesn't know the answer, but could point me to the right forum for help that would be nice too.
Thank you

flash the full OTA through recovery: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...hread-released-2-17-15-/post/4464815/#4464815
then reinstall supersu through recovery, no factory reset needed

Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn

Esshahn said:
Thank you for replying.
I got annoyed by it all yesterday and flashed 2.1, now I don't have root or custom recovery anymore.
Now the fun part: When I want to update to 2.2 normally (since it's now supposed to be a standard device without any hacks), it just shows the error robot.
So now I'm stuck with 2.1 and can't move left or right.
After reading all those comments about messed up colors in 2.2 I'm wondering if its actually worth the effort to update?
Any idea on that Bogdacutu?
Thanks,
Esshahn
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you can flash the full OTA through TWRP or CWM, no idea why it won't work with stock recovery though
the update supposedly fixes the graphics glitches that appear in various apps on update 2.1, that might be a good reason to update

Thank you!
Actually, since I didn't have CWM installed anymore, I just sideloaded the latest OTA, which worked nice.

Help choosing ROM and Recovery

Hi everyone.
I rooted my Note Pro 12.2 (wifi) a while back and installed a basic rooted ROM, not CW12.
I honestly don't remember which ROM I flashed. I believe it was just a stock de-bloated ROM, and if it's the one I think it is, in the thread it says that ROM was faulty and dev has stopped for it. I see the kernel version and build in the "about" section under settings but I'm not sure if that number would tell me which ROM it is, or just the ROM and kernal that it was built on top of.
I basically wanted a stock style ROM with the ability to change things as I wanted. I'm still noticing a TON of lag. Scrolling on pages, loading apps, screen lag between touch and actual input of characters when using on screen keyboard, etc etc. I've frozen a bunch of bloatware and other things and it helped a little, but it's still pretty bad.
Audio latency with recording and MIDI apps is very bad, but I know that's improved with lollipop.
Aside from lag, it seems that GPS won't lock on no matter how long Iet it look for a signal (hard to tell if it's the ROM, but my Note 4 has found GPS very easily). Also, my Note 4 (unrooted and stock at this point) is waaaaay smoother and faster than this tablet. I realize we're talking about lollipop vs kitkat, and that the Note 4 version I have is the snapdragon one. But it still seems like performance should be better on this tablet.
So I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a good ROM for me to flash until lollipop comes out for the wifi version of this tablet. I want the stock multi-window functions (4 at a time plus floating windows), so CW12 is not an option. I want to use some of the Samsung apps like s note and Hancom office. I use the s-pen from time to time with the pen apps like write-on-screen.
The "rooted" features I want to access are turning off the camera sound (adding the switch to the settings menu in the camera app, not just replacing the sound file with a dummy file) Changing PPI of apps (xposed module) and full access read/write on micro SD cards and really important is the ability to add any app to the multi-window apps list and force orientation. I've been able to do all this with xposed modules.
Other than that, stock would be fine if it wasn't so laggy. The main reason I want to try another ROM is the lag. On screen keyboard has a lot of lag, but even my Logitech k810 bluetooth keyboard is laggy.
I'm also currently travelling and don't have a PC with me. So I'm hoping I can flash the ROM without ODIN, or perhaps I can use one of the ODIN-for-android type things on my Note 4 to flash a ROM to the Note Pro 12.2. Also I have the stock recovey, and would like suggestions on which recovery to use instead. Again, no computer with me to flash a new recovery. Ido have an OTG cable and USB flash drive so Ican back up my files before flashing the new ROM, as well as a miscro SD card.
Any recommendations for a smooth, fast ROM? Any tips on flashing it without a PC? I know I can copy the ZIP to the tablet and flash it from recovery...but it is the stock recovery...is this going to be sufficient?
THANKS!

The hyperdrive rom by sbreen (in the dev section) works great. Isnt there an internet cafe in the vicinity? Ask them for assistance flashing the beast. I love twrp. Good luck!
I tried to find an easy root apk thingy so you dont need a computer, couldnt find anything (but maybe kinguser or something like it will work)
Link to twrp with explanation
https://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxynotepro122exynoswifi.html

Thanks! TWRP is I think what's on my Note II back home. My tablet is rooted already of course. For the Hyperdrive ROM, one thing I'm a little confused about is if I have to FIRST install a stock ROM and THEN flash the custom ROM. I'm a little confused about why exactly but I see that in the forums from time to time. It's recommended for certain ROMs. I don't know if flashing the stock ROM updates some other firmware/hardware driver type stuff that's needed for the new kernal to work or what.
There might be an internet cafe. I'm flying from Vienna to Lithuania today. Trying to explain to them that I want them to download and install ODIN might be tough knowing only English and Spanish haha.
Sorry for the noob question but is clicking the thumbs-up icon what generates "thanks" or do I do that somewhere else?

spaceturd3000 said:
Thanks! TWRP is I think what's on my Note II back home. My tablet is rooted already of course. For the Hyperdrive ROM, one thing I'm a little confused about is if I have to FIRST install a stock ROM and THEN flash the custom ROM. I'm a little confused about why exactly but I see that in the forums from time to time. It's recommended for certain ROMs. I don't know if flashing the stock ROM updates some other firmware/hardware driver type stuff that's needed for the new kernal to work or what.
There might be an internet cafe. I'm flying from Vienna to Lithuania today. Trying to explain to them that I want them to download and install ODIN might be tough knowing only English and Spanish haha.
Sorry for the noob question but is clicking the thumbs-up icon what generates "thanks" or do I do that somewhere else?
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If its rooted you can install twrp without computer (see my link) use twrp manager fromthe play store for that
You only have to flash the custom rom
(Make sure you backup on an ext sd or something, then delete everything in twrp, install custom rom, restart and done) I also always backup the launcher settings, if you backup the apps with titanium restoring is very easy afterwards)
Lemme know if this works for you!

goenieg said:
If its rooted you can install twrp without computer (see my link) use twrp manager fromthe play store for that
You only have to flash the custom rom
(Make sure you backup on an ext sd or something, then delete everything in twrp, install custom rom, restart and done) I also always backup the launcher settings, if you backup the apps with titanium restoring is very easy afterwards)
Lemme know if this works for you!
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I'm already having trouble installing TWRP. I can't do it from the app, as my device isn't listed. I downloaded the zip file of the correct version of TWRP and tried to flash it using the stock recovery. But when I boot into recovery mode, it still just goes to the stock recovery. Then I downloaded and installed ROM manager from the play store and it shows TWRP as being installed, but whenever I boot into recovery I just get the stock recovery.
I'm back home now and I guess I'll just try to do all this with ODIN.
Is there any reason I can't just install the custom ROM using the stock recovery? That's what I did last time.

Ok So I got TWRP installed via ODIN then I used it to clean wipe and flash Hyperdrive ROM but gmail app won't even open, just crashes immediately, and it's one of the main apps I need so...probably gonna look for another ROM...or most likely gonna flash the stock ROM, unroot and sell the tablet and get a Dell Venue 11 Pro. Might wait till the end of July though, the supposed release date for lollipop on this device.

Had the same problem. Install hyperdrive without the gmail app option. Afterwards install itmvia the play store.
And if you want lollipop give cyanogen a try. I love it (but its a personal thing).
Ad make sure to read the Venue reviews, they are not very positive.

goenieg said:
Had the same problem. Install hyperdrive without the gmail app option. Afterwards install itmvia the play store.
And if you want lollipop give cyanogen a try. I love it (but its a personal thing).
Ad make sure to read the Venue reviews, they are not very positive.
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I wanted to try lollipop because I use it for music, and latency is much better with lollipop. My Note 4 is running lollipop and I get way better performance from MIDI keyboards and guitar amp modelling. I really like the multi window functions on the stock and hyperdrive ROMs though, 4 at once, floating, etc. I'm sure as soon as lollipop is officially out for this device, someone will release a rooted version.
Thanks for the tip on gmail, fortunately I read it before getting too deep and just reflashed without gmail it and then installed the gmail app as you suggested and it does work. There still seems to be a bit of delay when using the on screen keyboard, not as fast as I had hoped. But it's up and running.
I was considering the Dell after trying a bunch of different audio and video editing apps for android and realizing that I just need full photoshop, premiere, and Reaper with all my VST plugins, so I need windows. Perhaps Surface Pro is a better choice but I like the Venue's chassis better, fanless, rounded corners. Also new tablets might be coming out with Windows 10 so another reason to wait...
My laptop is great but it's really big and I like a touch interface for on screen mixers and instruments. So I figured a tablet PC might work best for me. But the problem is GUI scaling. with the Windows legacy apps like Premiere and Photoshop, the buttons and menus don't scale, and on an 11" 1080 display they are quite small.

Just wait for win 10 and while waiting fine tune your 12" beast did you try system tuner pro already? You should be able to get less latency from that.
(And did someone mention "buy a Mac" already?

I am surprised, because after testing dozen ROMs I found stock ROM fastest one. Just root and debloat it.
Not so any lag or problems, but with custom ROMS I had a lot of problems.

tin2404 said:
I am surprised, because after testing dozen ROMs I found stock ROM fastest one. Just root and debloat it.
Not so any lag or problems, but with custom ROMS I had a lot of problems.
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Indeed, cyanogen requires a lot of tuning (but its what I like about Android, I am more tinkering with it than actually using it I believe

goenieg said:
Just wait for win 10 and while waiting fine tune your 12" beast did you try system tuner pro already? You should be able to get less latency from that.
(And did someone mention "buy a Mac" already?
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I checked out system tuner pro (didn't buy it yet just read the description) What exactly would I adjust to get lower audio latency? Just clock the CPU higher? OR does it have audio-specific settings not mentioned in the description?

Hold yer horses
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/49414/P900XXU0BOF2_P900OXA0BOF2_PHN/
Looks like Samsung official lollipop (I read that it has way better latency) is finally coming to your tablet.
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Better link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4ccvyxgge4kaUktYWtPUl9QSW8/view?pli=1

WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!!? I've been checking sammobile EVERY day for the lost couple weeks waiting for this! OMG OMG I'm hoping I'll be able to use the Samsung Audio stuff with this, their DAW and amplitube and all that...plus I'll get Hancom office back...Thanks for the heads-up. I'm glad I've been using CM12.1 though So I can compare the experience.
Looking forward to the rooted version of stock lollipop making its way to xda as well! Now... to figure out the best way to back up my current installation...