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I made the switch just this past weekend to the Inspire and gave my iPhone 4 to my wife. I don't miss the iPhone except for its camera. Compared to the Inspires camera, the iPhone 4 camera is like a 20982340823 megapixel camera.
Please don't take this as a troll post or an Apple fanboy post, its not. I just wonder if its my phone, the inspire, or android in general that causes the absolutely awful pictures. The grain is horrific, and no matter how still I hold the camera, the shot blurs.
I'm not new to photography either, its a part-time hobby for me. Just really disappointed with the camera so far
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I made the switch just this past weekend to the Inspire and gave my iPhone 4 to my wife. I don't miss the iPhone except for its camera. Compared to the Inspires camera, the iPhone 4 camera is like a 20982340823 megapixel camera.
Please don't take this as a troll post or an Apple fanboy post, its not. I just wonder if its my phone, the inspire, or android in general that causes the absolutely awful pictures. The grain is horrific, and no matter how still I hold the camera, the shot blurs.
I'm not new to photography either, its a part-time hobby for me. Just really disappointed with the camera so far
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is this on the stock rom? is it any different on custom roms?
Apple has had 4 years to adjust one camera app. Simple as that. Android has 197941218894 camera apps. by that I mean that come stock
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I have read a few post claiming what you are, I personally have owned iphone 4 and compared with mine I definately can say its not a big difference if any, I dont have any grainy problems that some talk about. The pictures are real clear. Maybe go check out a demo model at att and take pic and see if it is any different.
I agree the Camera on this phone leaves something to be desired. I am hoping they will update this with an OTA. If I remember right HTC did something like that with the Incredibles Camera. My wife has an iPhone 4 and that is pretty much the benchmark by which all cellphone camera's are measured (N8 excluded of course). This camera seams to work OK if nothing is moving, but trying to get any picture of my 4 year old is impossible with the Inspire.
bmolloy said:
I agree the Camera on this phone leaves something to be desired.
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I c wut u did thar
My inspire is completely stock.
I haven't used any if the market apps for the inspire yet, so maybe there is some hope in a different app.
Are any of the other roms different/better?
I use android revolution and notice a significant improvement in the camera. Not sure why but it is much better. Hard to beat iphone 4 camera...
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I've got the opposite problem. My DSLR makes lousy phone calls.
Cannibul said:
I've got the opposite problem. My DSLR makes lousy phone calls.
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Are you holding it right?
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If you change the iso to 400 or so things tend to improve. Htc has never been known for their camera. It is passable.
Its because the iPhone 4 has a larger sensor in its camera. While the iPhone is only 5 megapixels, the larger sensor makes a very noticeable difference in quality so it is less grainy and takes better low light shots. An update to the Inspire can't fix the quality, it needs a bigger sensor.
I think the camera in the inspire 4g is great. However, i am comparing to my dell streak which sux. I feel more like im shooting with my hd2 now, which had an amazing camera
it may be an inaccurate observation on my part but it seems like after the camera focuses and i take a shot, the picture ends up being blurred just slightly. it's never as sharp as immediately after the auto focus.
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it may be an inaccurate observation on my part but it seems like after the camera focuses and i take a shot, the picture ends up being blurred just slightly. it's never as sharp as immediately after the auto focus.
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Yes that's accurate. It definitely has a tendency to do that from what I've seen. One way to minimize that is to press and hold the camera/shutter button until the picture takes instead of waiting for it to focus and then tapping the button. Don't know if you already do that or not, but if you don't it might be worth a try. Hope it helps.
As someone else mentioned, it is the sensor that matters, not MP (as you know). Unfortunately, other than Nokia (and Apple, to a lesser extent) phone manufacturers seem to randomly pick an available sensor in the price/MP range they want for the camera, stick it in, and forget about it. Unfortunately this is an industry-trend, so I don't see anyone changing soon. Can't wait to see what Nokia does with some WP7 goodness in their hardware. *notatroll*
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As someone else mentioned, it is the sensor that matters, not MP (as you know). Unfortunately, other than Nokia (and Apple, to a lesser extent) phone manufacturers seem to randomly pick an available sensor in the price/MP range they want for the camera, stick it in, and forget about it. Unfortunately this is an industry-trend, so I don't see anyone changing soon. Can't wait to see what Nokia does with some WP7 goodness in their hardware. *notatroll*
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sony ericsson takes great photos too
mcca555 said:
sony ericsson takes great photos too
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True, although they haven't had a good camera-centric phone since the K850.
I actually have had good experiences with my camera.. hmm...
I think the camera does a pretty good job. Does this have the same camera as the EVO? If so I saw some pics that the EVO took compared to iPhone 4 and they look pretty damn close.
i just got htc one xl (international versionfor at&t) and everything is just superb. but wait here is a problem with my phone's camera the image quality is not awesome in low lights its average with some noise at the ends of picture now where is the BSI sensor result??and the major issue is that my phone looses its focus while recording video and when i press centre of phone's screen then it appears ok what the hell is this? is it a software problem or my phone is buggy
There's an international One X forum, go there. Some others may be having the same problem. Honestly, it just sounds like you're expecting too much from the camera in terms of low light. Try messing with exposure? The phone comes over exposed though already.
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There's an international One X forum, go there. Some others may be having the same problem. Honestly, it just sounds like you're expecting too much from the camera in terms of low light. Try messing with exposure? The phone comes over exposed though already.
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yes i am expecting too much because htc and gsmarena makes me to expect that too much impressive result by talking about f/2.0 and BSI sensor performance. i also used n8 and that was mind blowing result and camera phone. anyhow what about problem in focus while recording? any one have any idea?
It must be a faulty handset. I've taken shots in almost absolute darkness and still been blown away by the camera's low level light performance. Like someone mentioned it's already oversaturated out the box.
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It must be a faulty handset. I've taken shots in almost absolute darkness and still been blown away by the camera's low level light performance. Like someone mentioned it's already oversaturated out the box.
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And oversaturation is good for low light pictures right? Sorry, my camera knowledge is slim to none at best.
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The only thing can really help the low light photography is a large sensor. You need a sensor the size of APS-C or full frame 35mm to achive that. The pee sized sensor in all phones can never get what you want no matter what technological wonders they have.
Unfortunately, those larger sensor (and the larger lens) is impossible to embed into a phone.
I also have a problem with the camera where the pics are mostly too yellow. Is this a common issue and is there a fix? I can't fine RGB adjustment in the stock camera app. Is there a good 3rd party camera app that has this feature?
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I also have a problem with the camera where the pics are mostly too yellow. Is this a common issue and is there a fix?
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It happens when you shoot indoors with incandescent lamps as lighting. You need to manually change the white blance to Incadescent mode in camera settings.
It's a common issue for majority of the cameras out there.
n70shan said:
yes i am expecting too much because htc and gsmarena makes me to expect that too much impressive result by talking about f/2.0 and BSI sensor performance. i also used n8 and that was mind blowing result and camera phone. anyhow what about problem in focus while recording? any one have any idea?
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The continuous autofocusing does seem to be quite aggressive, resulting in the phone always searching for something to focus on. This may be what you're experiencing. Try turning off the Face Detection option in the cameras settings. Hopefully that helps!
The low-light performance of this camera is not mind-blowing. The overall image quality and abilities of the camera is, to me, quite spectacular. But take my word, and the word of reviews around the internet, with a grain of salt, as we are all speaking relatively. That is, understand that this is a pretty awesome camera for a camera phone. It's not an 808, n8, n9, nor is it your average point and shoot camera, which will have a large sensor and better image processing. But the HOX is capable of taking photos that compare to those types of devices.
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The continuous autofocusing does seem to be quite aggressive, resulting in the phone always searching for something to focus on. This may be what you're experiencing. Try turning off the Face Detection option in the cameras settings. Hopefully that helps!
The low-light performance of this camera is not mind-blowing. The overall image quality and abilities of the camera is, to me, quite spectacular. But take my word, and the word of reviews around the internet, with a grain of salt, as we are all speaking relatively. That is, understand that this is a pretty awesome camera for a camera phone. It's not an 808, n8, n9, nor is it your average point and shoot camera, which will have a large sensor and better image processing. But the HOX is capable of taking photos that compare to those types of devices.
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ok fine but plz tell that whether galaxy s3 has better camera compared to one xl or one x?
The verge has a hands on review go read it
Make sure you're using Low light mode in the settings too and not just Auto.
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The verge has a hands on review go read it
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where?plz give me link to that site?
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/25/3042640/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review
n70shan said:
ok fine but plz tell that whether galaxy s3 has better camera compared to one xl or one x?
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I can't tell you one way or the other. I have not used the S3 or really looked deeply into it's camera. I'm sure this would be something you'd want to look around the web for, to see if any sites have gotten a hold of an S3 to test it out.
Just read that the SGIII has the same camera as the 4S. Take it as you will, but I like that camera. However its the post processing in the software that will produce the end result.
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Hi,Take a look ?
Search Youtube
The Cook Family's match: The Windows Phone 8X by HTC - Full Length
Even that is a MyTouch 3G
But I still felt uncomfortable
If window phone 8x compare to MyTouch 4G
is there any chance 4G could beat 8X?
Sorry, I can not post the youtube link.
plusyou88 said:
Hi,Take a look ?
Search Youtube
The Cook Family's match: The Windows Phone 8X by HTC - Full Length
Even that is a MyTouch 3G
But I still felt uncomfortable
If window phone 8x compare to MyTouch 4G
is there any chance 4G could beat 8X?
Sorry, I can not post the youtube link.
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He compared using the front-facing camera. Nobody seriously uses the front camera, it is a lame VGA 1.3MP sensor. Had he used the rear camera, the MyTouch would have held its own against the Nokia.
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He compared using the front-facing camera. Nobody seriously uses the front camera, it is a lame VGA 1.3MP sensor. Had he used the rear camera, the MyTouch would have held its own against the Nokia.
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I beg to differ!
Anyone using phone for what it is - a communication device - normally uses the front camera a lot, not the rear one, don't you agree?
Personally I could live without rear camera at all, all those hailed "great features" of MT4GS' built-in rear camera's (and any other phone's cameras!) are easily beaten by any crappiest $20 standalone photo camera toys with a 1 inch lens (or more), and that's a fact... This rear camera module cost mere $2 or less from manufacturer (depending on quantity) and either same or very similar ones are built-in into many toys (i.e. latest Barbie with camera and screen)... Anyways, I never understood why anyone would even consider taking any more or less serious photos with the phone's tiny plastic single-optic lens. It's not like photo/video cameras with proper optics cost arm and leg nowadays... I can hardly think of more than very few situations where the rear camera may be needed instead of front camera.
Oh and having said that: Windows Phone 8 sucks. I haven't seen any difference from WP7, which IMO is the worst mobile OS ever.
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I beg to differ!
Anyone using phone for what it is - a communication device - usually use the front camera a lot, don't you think?
Personally I could live without rear camera at all, all those hailed "great features" of MT4GS' built-in rear camera's are easily beaten by any crappiest $20 standalone photo camera toys with a 2 inch lens (or more), and that's a fact... This rear camera module cost mere $2-$3, either same or very similar one are built-in into many toys (i.e. latest Barbie with camera and screen)... Anyways, I never understood why anyone would even consider taking any more or less serious photos with the phone's tiny plastic single-optic lens. It's not like photo/video cameras with proper optics cost arm and leg nowadays... I can hardly think of more than very few situations where the rear camera may be needed instead of front camera.
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Really?! I'm tired of people saying their phones aren't real, respectable (ish) cameras. No offense personally, dude... I just see this as a common misconception among my fellow techies. Most 8MP and above take decent enough shots to be compared to a regular consumer grade camera. Obviously, not in ALL situations (like low light at a distance, optical zoom, etc.) but enough to be used seriously to capture a memory of loved one, day trip, unexpected wild life, etc. The MAIN point is who the hell carries a camera around with them?! Very few... so yeah, I'd say some of the newer phones can be considered serious (ish) cameras. Of course these are just opinions so we can't really prove or disprove much but I have to say that most pics are taken by mobiles and must be considered serious based on quantity alone. Remember that few people actually know what a DSLR camera is... let alone carry one. We technical minded people forget that most aren't in the same mindset we are.
I too am fond of the front facing camera of nokia phones. And that's only because nokia supports 3g Video calling unlike android that uses the front camera only for internet based video calling. Quality wise I don't really mind at all since they all are crap anyways. I would be greatful to have a 8mp front facing camera with superb compression so it wouldn't have any impacts on data transfer. But yeah it's just a dream haha
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Really?! I'm tired of people saying their phones aren't real, respectable (ish) cameras. No offense personally, dude... I just see this as a common misconception among my fellow techies. Most 8MP and above take decent enough shots to be compared to a regular consumer grade camera. Obviously, not in ALL situations (like low light at a distance, optical zoom, etc.) but enough to be used seriously to capture a memory of loved one, day trip, unexpected wild life, etc. The MAIN point is who the hell carries a camera around with them?! Very few... so yeah, I'd say some of the newer phones can be considered serious (ish) cameras. Of course these are just opinions so we can't really prove or disprove much but I have to say that most pics are taken by mobiles and must be considered serious based on quantity alone. Remember that few people actually know what a DSLR camera is... let alone carry one. We technical minded people forget that most aren't in the same mindset we are.
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Of course it is personal prefernce, so our discussion is actually a moot.
I do agree with you (mostly), but you missed my point, which is that almost anything you may use rear camera for - all of it can be done with the front camera, but not the other way aroound (i.e. you can't use rear camera for videocall). I'd rather have a good front camera, because 99% of the time that's the camera I use, that's all. Rear camera is a gimmick to fool people, but that's just my opinion. (edit - actually not only mine, since i.e. latest Google tablets ditched the rear cameras, yet they kept the front ones...)
Regarding the quality - there is no need to "defend" the phone cameras, because I am not "attacking" them; they are what they are: cheapest cameras around and just because at certain conditions they are able to take decent shots proves nothing. Anyways, IMO the phone cameras are akin to old disposable "analog" (35mm film) cameras, they had their market too. I have actually seen people taking wedding photos with those! And there is nothing wrong with that, it's all just personal preference, really.
The fact is that when you have no camera around, even the crappiest one is a god-send, right?
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The same way death of stupid iPods was just a matter of time once the first smartphones became capable of playing music and videos, the same way the "point & shoot" cameras will disappear in the next few years. People always prefer "all-in-one" devices instead of carrying multiple single-purpose devices. Let's not forget that the "convenience" always wins over "quality" (it has been proven many times), and that's why I am sure within next few years all these typical "point & shoot" cameras will disappear completely (replaced by built-in phone cameras). Camera market will consist mostly of pro and consumer DSLRs and some more-less specialized cams (3D perhaps? assuming this current 3D TV fad keeps going on).
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I beg to differ!
Anyone using phone for what it is - a communication device - normally uses the front camera a lot, not the rear one, don't you agree?
Personally I could live without rear camera at all, all those hailed "great features" of MT4GS' built-in rear camera's (and any other phone's cameras!) are easily beaten by any crappiest $20 standalone photo camera toys with a 1 inch lens (or more), and that's a fact... This rear camera module cost mere $2 or less from manufacturer (depending on quantity) and either same or very similar ones are built-in into many toys (i.e. latest Barbie with camera and screen)... Anyways, I never understood why anyone would even consider taking any more or less serious photos with the phone's tiny plastic single-optic lens. It's not like photo/video cameras with proper optics cost arm and leg nowadays... I can hardly think of more than very few situations where the rear camera may be needed instead of front camera.
Oh and having said that: Windows Phone 8 sucks. I haven't seen any difference from WP7, which IMO is the worst mobile OS ever.
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Sorry, but you really don't know WTF you're saying, so just stop. Thank you for your time.
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Riyal said:
I too am fond of the front facing camera of nokia phones. And that's only because nokia supports 3g Video calling unlike android that uses the front camera only for internet based video calling. Quality wise I don't really mind at all since they all are crap anyways. I would be greatful to have a 8mp front facing camera with superb compression so it wouldn't have any impacts on data transfer. But yeah it's just a dream haha
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We can do 3G video calling on our MT4GS just fine. I've used Skype and QIK to make video calls without any problem, and not on Wi-Fi.
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Sorry, but you really don't know WTF you're saying, so just stop. Thank you for your time.
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LOL I think exactly the same about your opinion, so why you just don't stop?
I use my front facing camera like 200 times a day.... No lie
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I use my front facing camera like 200 times a day.... No lie
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I use the front WAY more than the back camera. I mean yeah the back camera comes in handy for weird clouding in the sky, but nothing beats sitting there doing 'self portraits' of me and my daughter
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I use my FFC *MAYBE* 2x a year.
I use the rear camera daily @ work as well as at play.
YMMV. We all place different value on our devices based on our lifestyle and values.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
In the 14 months I've owned this phone, I've used the front camera for a photo maybe 3 times. I use the rear camera a lot, at least a dozen times a week on average and when I was living in China this past summer I took over 1000 photos and a dozen HD videos using the rear camera. I've used the front camera for webcam about 6 times.
I did an informal survey among my friends. Of the 9 friends I asked who have phones with a front camera, only 2 of them had ever used the front camera for a photo, and that's because they are self-pic whores. HAHAHA
Lol I'd hope a brand new phone beats a phone that's nearly a year and a half old. But in all seriousness, I still think the MT4GS's camera is still pretty solid. I mean not the GREATEST, but it's not very bad either. The front facing camera I do use a lot and it's not quite the BEST, but I've never needed the BEST front facing camera, if it works then I'm good to go.
Wrong thread lol!
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Wrong thread lol!
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I just hate it when I do that.
I bet we will see the beginning of the end for most point and shoots when they add optical zoom and dslr to smartphones. Like what MT4GS said, most end users prefer all in one devices. Very good point about death of ipod. I always thought that mp3 players were stupid since I was using my WM device/G1 as one. I eventually ran out of memory since the 16GB cards were expensive at the time and opted for a 32GB model mp3 player. These days... you can get a 64GB class 10 card for under a $100 which makes mp3 players obsolete. I'm sure cameras will never meet that end quite as dramatically or in numbers even for just consumers but I can see that cameras on smartphones will hit 12mp soon enough and become commonplace when optical zoom is introduced. I'm sure most manufacturers are concerned about thickness, how they can make the lens retreat mostly into the housing, and mostly... safe on their drop tests Personally, I wish they'd work on better lens because 12mp camera can look like **** with inferior lens. As far as the front camera goes, our little VGA doesn't cut it for picture... for me, at least. It is handy for video calls and nothing more imho. Even the latest, which usually include up to 1.3mp, is rather poor quality. I've been disappointed at the rate manufacturers have improved them thus far. I guess time will tell, huh?
As far as DSLR goes, I'm sure it will be added when they become more commonplace in the consumer realm. HDR seems to be adding to all models as a feature like panorama. The photography world has become very exciting lately
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In the 14 months I've owned this phone, I've used the front camera for a photo maybe 3 times. I use the rear camera a lot, at least a dozen times a week on average and when I was living in China this past summer I took over 1000 photos and a dozen HD videos using the rear camera. I've used the front camera for webcam about 6 times.
I did an informal survey among my friends. Of the 9 friends I asked who have phones with a front camera, only 2 of them had ever used the front camera for a photo, and that's because they are self-pic whores. HAHAHA
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You still don't get it.
I will try one more time slower for you
Whatever you use your rear camera for, it can be done with front camera in almost every case. If MT4GS had the 8Mpx front camera with all the same features (and no rear camera) you would be using it the same way as you already did with this camera being in the rear - AND all of us using only/mostly the current front camera would be using it the same way as we did so far too, don't you get it? The rear camera is redundant in 99% cases of use.
You have used the rear cam only because you wanted take photos or videos in a higher resolution (than the current front camera's VGA). Simply replace the front VGA cam with 8Mpx camera from the back and you don't need 2 of them anymore.
What I would actually prefer instead of 2 cameras is having a second small screen on the back (to be used as i.e. "viewfinder" for those rare occasions when the front camera would be used for taking photos of something, but anyways there are plenty of other/better uses for second small screen on the rear), but that's another matter...
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I just did same survey, 6 ppl:
4 agree the rear camera is redundant and they do or would use only front camera if there was no rear cam
1 person has only front cam (and she said she don't need rear camera at all)
1 person said he would NOT buy phone without 2 cameras (front and back)
so...
MT4GS said:
You still don't get it.
I will try one more time slower for you
Whatever you use your rear camera for, it can be done with front camera in almost every case. If MT4GS had the 8Mpx front camera with all the same features (and no rear camera) you would be using it the same way as you already did with this camera being in the rear - AND all of us using only/mostly the current front camera would be using it the same way as we did so far too, don't you get it? The rear camera is redundant in 99% cases of use.
You have used the rear cam only because you wanted take photos or videos in a higher resolution (than the current front camera's VGA). Simply replace the front VGA cam with 8Mpx camera from the back and you don't need 2 of them anymore.
What I would actually prefer instead of 2 cameras is having a second small screen on the back (to be used as i.e. "viewfinder" for those rare occasions when the front camera would be used for taking photos of something, but anyways there are plenty of other/better uses for second small screen on the rear), but that's another matter...
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I just did same survey, 6 ppl:
4 agree the rear camera is redundant and they do or would use only front camera if there was no rear cam
1 person has only front cam (and she said she don't need rear camera at all)
1 person said he would NOT buy phone without 2 cameras (front and back)
so...
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It is really sad when a narcissist has so pissed off everyone else in his life that he's reduced to taking his own self-pics with the front-facing camera on his phone. :laugh: And no, I would not use the front camera even if it were a higher quality. The photos I take are of other subjects, not myself. I'm not that vain.
MT4GS said:
You still don't get it.
I will try one more time slower for you
Whatever you use your rear camera for, it can be done with front camera in almost every case. If MT4GS had the 8Mpx front camera with all the same features (and no rear camera) you would be using it the same way as you already did with this camera being in the rear - AND all of us using only/mostly the current front camera would be using it the same way as we did so far too, don't you get it? The rear camera is redundant in 99% cases of use.
You have used the rear cam only because you wanted take photos or videos in a higher resolution (than the current front camera's VGA). Simply replace the front VGA cam with 8Mpx camera from the back and you don't need 2 of them anymore.
What I would actually prefer instead of 2 cameras is having a second small screen on the back (to be used as i.e. "viewfinder" for those rare occasions when the front camera would be used for taking photos of something, but anyways there are plenty of other/better uses for second small screen on the rear), but that's another matter...
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I just did same survey, 6 ppl:
4 agree the rear camera is redundant and they do or would use only front camera if there was no rear cam
1 person has only front cam (and she said she don't need rear camera at all)
1 person said he would NOT buy phone without 2 cameras (front and back)
so...
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Not to tease but what do you do when you take pics other than yourself & someone/something? I agree with Fuzi... I'm just not sure how people are taking so many FFC pics.... Am I missing something? Again, no sarcasm intended. Just curious and confused
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Not to tease but what do you do when you take pics other than yourself & someone/something? I agree with Fuzi... I'm just not sure how people are taking so many FFC pics.... Am I missing something? Again, no sarcasm intended. Just curious and confused
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I have a folder on my sdcard that's nothing but self pics of me and my kid TOGETHER. And its around a few hundred photos, then there's me and my fiance together ect.
Also the ffc is a mirror for me when I cut my own hair and need to see the back of my head and only one mirror is there...I mean the ffc has more uses than what's being looked at.
Btw I notice this thread has gone way off track to MT and fuzi opinion thread on why this camera is better than that camera
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hi friends. the topic says it all. but here is the catch.
i have to go on a trip. its my first time ever out of the country so i really need a great CAMERA PHONE.
i know 808 sweeps floor with Both S4 and S3 for its camera performance but i still need an idea from u guys, cause u guys are the best
i have owned S3 and its camera is great. but not a good low light performer. its THE GREATEST PHONE for sure. and S4 will not be available till end of this month.i really need to decide within like 2 days to go for any set.
are there any friends here who owned 808 and S3 together? cause i have never used 808 but every read only good about its camera.
pls suggest me. i will not go for 920 cause windows phone sucks! well, Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs so im asking just to confirm from u guys.
i expect good and sincere help cause i love xda
*EDIT* and one more question what can be the price of used 808 as i have no idea at all about its resale
thanks in advance for ur time and help
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i have to go on a trip. its my first time ever out of the country so i really need a great CAMERA PHONE.
i know 808 sweeps floor with Both S4 and S3 for its camera performance but i still need an idea from u guys, cause u guys are the best
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Haven't you answered your own question???
Questions should go to the proper forum section, but we have camera discussions here too.
With that said, not to leave you without an answer, the PureView 808 is obviously the best camera phone on the market. The good news about the GS4 is however that it does awesome good light photos which at 13MPs are good for digital zooming or later cutting which is usually a problem with phones (no optical zoom). The bad news is that, despite improving tremendously, absolute dark shots are still problematic, and if half your shots are taken during nights or very limited lights, the Lumia 920 is the one to choose. If 80% of your shots are taken in low but not dark conditions, average lights and ideal scenery, the GS4 is an excellent all-around performer for a phone.
But you can judge the quality for yourself over this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213853
price of a used around 320-350$ for now
aami.aami said:
pls suggest me. i will not go for 920 cause windows phone sucks! well, Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs so im asking just to confirm from u guys.
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No, its not comparable to a DSLR, but its much better then the S3/S4 and all the other phones. If you want a good low light phone, go for the 808/920 or htc one.
But if you want to shoot REALLY NICE pictures, you should get a dslr.
For example the Sony Alpha 57: currently avaible for 440€ in Germany. The supplied objective is ok but you can improve the quality with an alternative one.
All the phones avaible ARE NOT WORTH COMPARING WITH A GOOD DSLR!
None. If you are going on a trip, you should get a DSLR.
Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs
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I am sure you have never handled a DSLR. Don't spread FUD here.
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None. If you are going on a trip, you should get a DSLR.
I am sure you have never handled a DSLR. Don't spread FUD here.
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thanks to all of u guys for such quick and great responses!!
and dude i said "COMPARABLE" quality to DSLR
here, see for urself:
http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773p2.php
and BTW, Olympus E-PL2 is a mid range DSLR! and 808 beat that!
and here,
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_low_light-review-775.php
it is said that, "The Nokia 808 PureView is on its march to becoming iconic, trashing the Olympus PEN E-PL2 Micro Four Thirds camera in our blind test and then matching the Canon 5D Mark III for resolution in the process."
so yeah... it does have Great sensor with great performance...
and i have chosen to go for it
aami.aami said:
thanks to all of u guys for such quick and great responses!!
and dude i said "COMPARABLE" quality to DSLR
here, see for urself:
http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773p2.php
and BTW, Olympus E-PL2 is a mid range DSLR! and 808 beat that!
and here,
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_low_light-review-775.php
it is said that, "The Nokia 808 PureView is on its march to becoming iconic, trashing the Olympus PEN E-PL2 Micro Four Thirds camera in our blind test and then matching the Canon 5D Mark III for resolution in the process."
so yeah... it does have Great sensor with great performance...
and i have chosen to go for it
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Technically, Olympus E-PL2 is not a DSLR. It's a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera.
And "Micro Four Thirds" should have told you the size of the sensor. Compare this to a size of a typical APS-C sensor.
If I am looking to take photos, I would rather get a typical DSLR.
Matching 5D Mark III in photography? I would better ask the editor to get his eyes checked. 808 is neither good phone, not a good camera. It's much better than typical mobile camera, but can't be compared to a good DSLR. It even worse than a point n shoot like RX100.
I don't need photography lessons from blind test in GSMArena.
808 is comparable to my 5D mark III? Please. I'll advise you to stick with your current phone and get something like Canon 650D or 60D.
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aami.aami said:
pls suggest me. i will not go for 920 cause windows phone sucks! well, Symbian sucks ever worse but its camera is comparable to DSLRs so im asking just to confirm from u guys.
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If you just want the best camera but not the window phone based phone, why not try HTC One which owns the ultrapixal camera.But note that the best camera on smartphone is still the pureview camera on Nokia Lumia 920. And the windows phone system don't sucks like what you imagined.
Dannyada1988 said:
why not try HTC One which owns the ultrapixal camera..
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If 2 micron is ultrapilxel, what do you call a 5 micron? Elephant-pixel or dragon-pixel?
I wonder if you know that even a 6 year old phone like Nokia N95 had a bigger sensor and bigger pixel-size. In 2007 they had a phone with 1/2.5 inch sensor and 2.2 micron pixel pitch.
Don't remember anyone calling it ultrapixel!
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If 2 micron is ultrapilxel, what do you call a 5 micron? Elephant-pixel or dragon-pixel?
I wonder if you know that even a 6 year old phone like Nokia N95 had a bigger sensor and bigger pixel-size. In 2007 they had a phone with 1/2.5 inch sensor and 2.2 micron pixel pitch.
Don't remember anyone calling it ultrapixel!
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ultrapixel is just a marketing term aka a name. is it so hard to understand that? HTC figured that it would be rather embarrasing to sell a flagship with only 4MP on board so they coined this term.
Its like apple coined the retina display term. theres nothing to do with retina there. its just a name.
And how big fat and heavy was that n95? 808 is best cameraphone out there but nokia coundnt sell it. people dont want fat phones anymore. not most people.
Seems like you don't want a dslr. If you want REALLY GOOD picture quality and that's all you care about you could still get a decent digital non-dlsr camera which is much smaller than a dslr. I mean you already got a decent phone anyways so why throw so much money on 808 that's got nothing but a camera? Better spend something like $350 on a decent camera with superb quality. That price range can already get you something much better than any smartphone camera's
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joslicx said:
ultrapixel is just a marketing term aka a name. is it so hard to understand that?
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Captain Obvious strikes back with vengeance.
i know it very clear 808 just cant compete with DSLRs but u should give the credit where it is due. 808 does compete with some of the low end DSLRs and i said LOW END!!
and 920 is only better than 808 in terms of steady videos cause of its OIS and thats it!
808 captures true colors and u can get the punchier colors while chossing vivid mode or increasing the contrast
i just wish, GOD just WWWIIIISSSSHHH that HTC had used some high quality and higher pixel count sensor in ONE! that would have been awesome!
ultra pixel of HTC ONE is like the 12MP sensor of N8 when it was introduced years ago! and then Nokia perfected that with 808. i was literally hoping a great phone from HTC this year at least, but alas... Ultrapixel should be evolved and it definitely would be, into something comparable to what Nokia did with 808!
now my current wish is Nokia choses to go Android and introduce Pureview Phase 3 phone with FHD screen and camera with double the performance of 808... (just a wish )
Hey guys,
so i am considering to buy HAM7 and i love it. There is one major problem though. I dont like the camera that much. At least from what i see from reviews videos etc. And here is my question: is the front and back camera any good?? Does it ruin the experience for selfie lovers?
thanks a lot.
Morfindir said:
Hey guys,
so i am considering to buy HAM7 and i love it. There is one major problem though. I dont like the camera that much. At least from what i see from reviews videos etc. And here is my question: is the front and back camera any good?? Does it ruin the experience for selfie lovers?
thanks a lot.
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how do u know when u even didnt try it ?? camera and video recording is better than on iphone crap
I have most flagship phones and I must say I was a bit worried about the camera but I decided to buy and what a great camera it is. The rear camera is excellent and front camera does the job saying most phones have a 2mp front cam but ham7 has 5mp.
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