There are many people who have perfect screens and no yellow band.
Those of you who don't have this problem could you upload pictures to this thread so we can see the differences?
There is a thread for those with yellow issues, but there isn't one where there are pictures of perfect screens.
Thanks!
Let's see how many people out there have perfect screens.
Is it perfect or screenshots from the Opo don't really help?
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Wow that is what my screen is suppose to look like ?
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adibeckett said:
Is it perfect or screenshots from the Opo don't really help?
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Screenshots won't capture the yellow screen on the bottom because it's from the internal memory, so it doesn't capture the screen defect from the outside. If you have a camera or another phone take a pic with that.
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anwoe said:
Here u go sir!
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You're only supposed to upload an image if you don't have the yellow band, it looks like you do have it on your phone.
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You're only supposed to upload an image if you don't have the yellow band, it looks like you do have it on your phone.
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It's hard to do cause all oneplus one is yellow:crying:
extrajam said:
It's hard to do cause all oneplus one is yellow:crying:
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How is it hard to not post a picture? If you have the yellow banding you don't post an image, that's simple.
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How is it hard to not post a picture? If you have the yellow banding you don't post an image, that's simple.
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Read again what he said....nobody has a perfect white screen on his OnePlus, so you won't be seeing a lot of pictures here...
Well the new ota releasing today states something about new cold screen calibration.
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Read again what he said....nobody has a perfect white screen on his OnePlus, so you won't be seeing a lot of pictures here...
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He's talking about the yellow band at the bottom of the screen, now the yellowish hue that the entire screen has (due to software setttings).
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Read again what he said....nobody has a perfect white screen on his OnePlus, so you won't be seeing a lot of pictures here...
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Sorry, I didn't realise you've personally seen every OnePlus One ever sold, my mistake.
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A day later and not one single picture of a perfect OnePlus screen...
Where are all those people that have claimed to have a perfect screen now?
They say they're phone screen is perfect but never upload a single picture
Sensamic said:
A day later and not one single picture of a perfect OnePlus screen...
Where are all those people that have claimed to have a perfect screen now?
They say they're phone screen is perfect but never upload a single picture
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They probably don't have a perfect one it is probably a lot less noticeable. Or they don't want to admit or deal with CS to get a refund. People who do that allow ****ty companies to stay in business.
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What do you guys think?
http://i.imgur.com/sgV1Jh7.jpg
Here's some shots of my phone. I can maybe notice it if I look at it at a certain angle and stare at it for a while on a white screen, but its 99% unnoticeable to me. I only see it because I'm nitpicking. When my LCD monitor is displaying a completely black screen, I notice the edges are a little brighter due to backlight bleeding so I'm thinking it might be the same thing.
Full Brghtness
http://imgur.com/e2mDkIe
http://imgur.com/5I5U5DB
Auto Brightness
http://imgur.com/A6xCcmi
http://imgur.com/0aqT1W6
Some shots of the top side
http://imgur.com/Q8Bwh6T
http://imgur.com/qEJl6gc
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What do you guys think?
http://i.imgur.com/sgV1Jh7.jpg
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This looks kind of acceptable to me. Looks pretty white. Does it have the new ota with cold calibration?
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Here's some shots of my phone. I can maybe notice it if I look at it at a certain angle and stare at it for a while on a white screen, but its 99% unnoticeable to me. I only see it because I'm nitpicking. When my LCD monitor is displaying a completely black screen, I notice the edges are a little brighter due to backlight bleeding so I'm thinking it might be the same thing.
Full Brghtness
http://imgur.com/e2mDkIe
http://imgur.com/5I5U5DB
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http://imgur.com/A6xCcmi
http://imgur.com/0aqT1W6
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http://imgur.com/Q8Bwh6T
http://imgur.com/qEJl6gc
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Yea I can see it in the corners. A little less than mine. How is it when reading text. Have a feeling that would bug me.
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selayan said:
This looks kind of acceptable to me. Looks pretty white. Does it have the new ota with cold calibration?
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Didn't update with the newest OTA yet. I took this picture late July, about a day after I got the phone.
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Didn't update with the newest OTA yet. I took this picture late July, about a day after I got the phone.
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Well if that was stock then the ota should make the screen colder and you won't see it at all. That is if it looked that good originally.
Mine is pretty knarly and I don't think the ota will help so I'm hoping for a refund whenever they respond to my ticket.
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selayan said:
This looks kind of acceptable to me. Looks pretty white. Does it have the new ota with cold calibration?
Yea I can see it in the corners. A little less than mine. How is it when reading text. Have a feeling that would bug me.
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When I looked at the photos and saw a bit of yellow, I was surprised since I didn't notice it with my own eyes. That's why I took pictures of the top to compare. The camera makes it look worse than it is because my eyes can barely see the difference unless I stare at it closeup for long time. If I hold the phone 2 or 3 feet away I can see the bottom edge is a tad warmer. 99% of the time I don't have pure white backgrounds so it doesn't bug me at all.
I dont have the yellow issue. This is white background on 100% brightness.
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there is probably another thread about the same stuff but i just gotta say it i just got the LG G2x last friday all i can say is wow i love this phone super fast far more faster then my epic 4g and evo 4g im in love with my phone its awesome
Congrats! Welcome to the forums.
Welcome man, you'll love this phone specially if you are like me, lucky one with no reboots and screen bleed.
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Congrats! Welcome to the forums.
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thx cant wait to see more roms
i wish i new how to port roms make etc etc.... lol
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Welcome man, you'll love this phone specially if you are like me, lucky one with no reboots and screen bleed.
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i dont get no reboots or screen bleeding whats so ever
Welcome dude glad you're liking it. Lemme know if you have any questions ill try and help as best I can.
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i dont get no reboots or screen bleeding whats so ever
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there are some people here claiming that tmobile should be receiving new units that supposedly has no screen bleed...hopefully they are right and i can go exchange my unit for one without screen bleed.
What is a screen bleed, and how do you know if your screen has it? I can't see any problem on mine. Does it only occur when you have certain wallpaper?
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What is a screen bleed, and how do you know if your screen has it? I can't see any problem on mine. Does it only occur when you have certain wallpaper?
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I would like to hear the answer to this too, what does screen bleed look like? I've tried pure black and pure white wallpaper looking for whatever you guys are talking about.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person who has a near-perfect G2X that doesn't misbehave in all the ways people here talk about. The only way I can get my phone to spontaneously boot or any other signs of instability is to overclock to 1500 and run Mandrobench five times in a row, by which time it is red hot. If good G2X's are so hard to come by maybe I should auction mine off.
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I would like to hear the answer to this too, what does screen bleed look like? I've tried pure black and pure white wallpaper looking for whatever you guys are talking about.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only person who has a near-perfect G2X that doesn't misbehave in all the ways people here talk about. The only way I can get my phone to spontaneously boot or any other signs of instability is to overclock to 1500 and run Mandrobench five times in a row, by which time it is red hot. If good G2X's are so hard to come by maybe I should auction mine off.
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Go into a room with all the lights off. Start up a video or something in which the background is all black (and pause before it starts playing). The screen bleed will appear at the top left or right corners of the device. If your screen does bleed you will be able to see some light penetrate through lighting up the top corners. If you do have it you can't miss it as it quite pronounced.
When you have a all black wallpaper look into all the corners of your screen (usually top right and left corners) if you have back bleed you will notice where the light bleeds out onto the black wallpaper. It doesn't effect me to much because I don't use dark wallpapers I like to show off my colors and nice screen but hopefully your unit doesn't have this issue enjoy
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Hi all,
So I just got my Transformer this evening and am hoping and praying for no issues.
I am wondering about something when I turn on the unit however already... I cannot tell if this is normal or not.
On the lower part of the welcome screen about maybe a 1/4 way up from the bottom there seems to be a faint light bar/line that goes across from one side to the other in this area.
I cannot tell if this is part of the welcome screen or if this is a flaw. Everything as far as leaks goes and such looks great from all sides but this concerns me. If it's part of the welcome design screen then great! If not I think I obviously have a problem with the screen. I hope this is not the case.
I have attached the best image I could take with crap camera showing the line. I apologize for it not being the best quality.
If anyone can assist I'd truly appreciate it. I don't want to test it on other screens as I wanted to let my Transformer charge completely before getting into it as it states. What is a good amount of time to let it charge to get the most out of my battery?
Thanks again for all help offered.
-tweeker
You can't get a clear idea about light bleed with a background like that. Download a black image from the web and open it from the gallery app, that will give you an almost black screen. Light leak is most noticeable on a black screen with brightness set to max.
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You can't get a clear idea about light bleed with a background like that. Download a black image from the web and open it from the gallery app, that will give you an almost black screen. Light leak is most noticeable on a black screen with brightness set to max.
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What about the streak of light that is going through the Android character is what I am referring to?
It's definitely not extremely blatant on this photo but you can certainly see it.
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What about the streak of light that is going through the Android character is what I am referring to?
It's definitely not extremely blatant on this photo but you can certainly see it.
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That's the background ... if there is a problem it will most likely be at the most extreme edges, it almost looks like there might be some on the bottom but that could be camera angle.
You already opened the box and took off the plastic, going past the welcome screen isn'tgoing to affect return policy or anything. Even if it did you can do a full wipe and be back to that screen in minutes.
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That's the background ... if there is a problem it will most likely be at the most extreme edges, it almost looks like there might be some on the bottom but that could be camera angle.
You already opened the box and took off the plastic, going past the welcome screen isn'tgoing to affect return policy or anything. Even if it did you can do a full wipe and be back to that screen in minutes.
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Great thanks a lot! Yes you are right there is some at the bottom.
What you see is correct... Are there ones out there that do not have this bleeding at the bottom?
Thanks.
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Great thanks a lot! Yes you are right there is some at the bottom.
What you see is correct... Are there ones out there that do not have this bleeding at the bottom?
Thanks.
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Tough question. Probably? I think all have it to some degree, but like my new one I have to put a blanket over my head, turn the screen all black, and turn the brightness all the way up to notice it. If you don't notice it or it doesn't bother you it is just an aesthetic problem that shouldn't ever get worse (or better). If it does and you can exchange it I would recommend doing that instead of sending it to Asus. There are plenty of horror stories about people sending it for repair.
However I would wait until you only have a week left to send it back to see if you forget about it. Some people have gone through nearly a dozen returns looking for a perfect one. I mean we deserve to get one without flaws, but sadly these screens are so prone to bleed that it seems to make some people just give up on tablets...
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Tough question. Probably? I think all have it to some degree, but like my new one I have to put a blanket over my head, turn the screen all black, and turn the brightness all the way up to notice it. If you don't notice it or it doesn't bother you it is just an aesthetic problem that shouldn't ever get worse (or better). If it does and you can exchange it I would recommend doing that instead of sending it to Asus. There are plenty of horror stories about people sending it for repair.
However I would wait until you only have a week left to send it back to see if you forget about it. Some people have gone through nearly a dozen returns looking for a perfect one. I mean we deserve to get one without flaws, but sadly these screens are so prone to bleed that it seems to make some people just give up on tablets...
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Yeah I can understand that. That is a great answer.
I noticed there is also noticable bleed on the left side as well near the bottom as well as the bleed noticed on the bottom all closer to the center and left.
Probably want to try out another one with there being more than just a little at the bottom. What do you think degen?
Thanks for your response.
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Yeah I can understand that. That is a great answer.
I noticed there is also noticable bleed on the left side as well near the bottom as well as the bleed noticed on the bottom all closer to the center and left.
Probably want to try out another one with there being more than just a little at the bottom. What do you think degen?
Thanks for your response.
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Like I mentioned I am on my second one, although I also had a blotch in the middle of my screen. If it bothers you now there's a good chance it always will. Sadly it's a roll of the dice. However having got mine from Amazon I figured I would rather return it then just regret it. Lightbleed SHOULDN'T exist but sadly you may have to settle with it to some degree but not a lot of it. If it bugs you while warching movies, playing games, or web browsing I would try exhanging it. Make sure to try it at night if you aren't sure. That's when it will be the most noticeable.
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Like I mentioned I am on my second one, although I also had a blotch in the middle of my screen. If it bothers you now there's a good chance it always will. Sadly it's a roll of the dice. However having got mine from Amazon I figured I would rather return it then just regret it. Lightbleed SHOULDN'T exist but sadly you may have to settle with it to some degree but not a lot of it. If it bugs you while warching movies, playing games, or web browsing I would try exhanging it. Make sure to try it at night if you aren't sure. That's when it will be the most noticeable.
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Thanks a lot Degen. I appreciate your help.
What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.
Looks good to me. Haven't received mine so I don't know if it's a bad unit.
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Marck527 said:
Looks good to me. Haven't received mine so I don't know if it's a bad unit.
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Not compared to what im used to it isnt. My last few devices have been AMOLED screens (no comparing to these, just a comment) or the HTC One LCD3 which has perfect viewing angles with no changes to the screen at any angles at all. Its somewhat worse than my Nexus 10.
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What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.
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What wallpaper is that? please can you post it or a link to it.
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What wallpaper is that? please can you post it or a link to it.
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I got it from the Zedge app.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xdq7abvf7q400m/Multicolor abstract_1.jpg
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What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.
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That's normal for LCD, that's called backlight. Nothing faulty here. I also own the HTC One and it has the same effect as well when you tilt the screen.
EDIT: I see what you mean now, when tilting the screen exactly like you do (45 degrees vert/hor). It still is not a faulty unit, it's just that LG has less prevented the backlight from coming through. Maybe its because of the slim bevel. I have seen it on other LG devices before though.
To answer your question, I think it's normal for the N5 .
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That's normal for LCD, that's called backlight. Nothing faulty here. I also own the HTC One and it has the same effect as well when you tilt the screen.
EDIT: I see what you mean now, when tilting the screen exactly like you do (45 degrees vert/hor). It still is not a faulty unit, it's just that LG has less prevented the backlight from coming through. Maybe its because of the slim bevel. I have seen it on other LG devices before though.
To answer your question, I think it's normal for the N5 .
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Well my HTC One doesnt change at all at any angle. The screen is perfect even if you look at it from the edge of the phone all colours and lighting are perfect!
Im fine with it if its normal for the N5, but if there are better units id prefer one of those.
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What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.
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what clock and weather is that
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what clock and weather is that
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Both are HD Widgets with colorform add-on.
This does not seem right. Now i don't have my N5 yet, but on my N4 i can look at it from almost 180 degrees and it loses almost nothing no matter how i look at it.
I have the same problem. When I turn my Nexus 180° my screen isn't visible anymore. Is it normal?
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Tunatje said:
I have the same problem. When I turn my Nexus 180° my screen isn't visible anymore. Is it normal?
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I see what you did there.
But on topic, when you see a phone screen is IPS you kind of expect it to look great from off angles.
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I see what you did there.
But on topic, when you see a phone screen is IPS you kind of expect it to look great from off angles.
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I totally agree with you. But dude, it looks great in any way.It has also to do with brightness. Throttle your brightness slider all the way to right en your N5 has perfect viewing angle. Even with 90 degrees. I had the Z1 before the Nexus 5. I must say the Nexus 5 does a waaaay beter job than the Z1. So I ain't complaining right now.
Might be a personal thing. After all, everything looks beter than TFT(regarding viewing angles).
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Might be a personal thing. After all, everything looks beter than TFT(regarding viewing angles).
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Yup. I spoiled myself since my first LCD monitor was an IPS screen so when I look at TN screens I can't stand them.
The poor viewing angles of my Nexus 4 has been one of my biggest gripes with the device. I popped into the carphone warehouse today to check the viewing angles of the Nexus 5 and from what I can see it suffers from the same problem Not as bad as the Z1 but not as good as devices like the HTC One from what I can see. Shame.
Getting my N5 today so i'll do some experimenting. my N4 has perfect viewing angles from anywhere. only very slight discoloration. nothing like OP's picture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYt7EPfdsYc
Thats big ****!
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my N4 has perfect viewing angles from anywhere. only very slight discoloration
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So good displays are out there on the N4... I'm on my second device but both have had pretty terrible displays
yeah i guess i just got lucky, and if that video comparing it with the oppo is legit that i'm insanely disappointed. If the screen is that bad i'm returning mine. I'd love to have the better camera and some of the other features but i'm not going to keep a garbage screen.
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yeah i guess i just got lucky, and if that video comparing it with the oppo is legit that i'm insanely disappointed. If the screen is that bad i'm returning mine. I'd love to have the better camera and some of the other features but i'm not going to keep a garbage screen.
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Crappy screen is a no go. I will receive mine on saturday. If it also has this **** angles, i will return it.
FU LG for producing such a ****ty Display. I want HTC to produce the next nexus!!
i have a really really weird watermark thats behind everything on the screen.
the watermark image is very faint but its visible in while and light screens.
the image is the Logo of Huawei.
Has anyone seen this?
how can i turn this off?
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i have a really really weird watermark thats behind everything on the screen.
the watermark image is very faint but its visible in while and light screens.
the image is the Logo of Huawei.
Has anyone seen this?
how can i turn this off?
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Post a screen shot of the screen. I don't have no water mark logo
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Post a screen shot of the screen. I don't have no water mark logo
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its sooo difficult ..i took screenshots on the phone and its not visible.
i had to take a picture with another phone and its somewhat apparent.
please see.
cylent said:
its sooo difficult ..i took screenshots on the phone and its not visible.
i had to take a picture with another phone and its somewhat apparent.
please see.
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I see it. Very strange. Don't have it. Have you tried to change the theme or do an factory reset?
That looks like a display model left with bootup screen on for several hours or perhaps a wallpaper which had the display on for several hours.
Looks like a replacement will be required.
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That looks like a display model left with bootup screen on for several hours or perhaps a wallpaper which had the display on for several hours.
Looks like a replacement will be required.
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I was just going to say something similar - looks like a burn-in. I thought modern LCDs didn't do that anymore ...
You should try to get it replaced, if it's under warranty.
And guess what its also appearing in cwm
I'll be lucky if i can get it replaced .... Oh well.
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And guess what its also appearing in cwm
I'll be lucky if i can get it replaced .... Oh well.
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Go to the store and show them your phone. If it is under warranty you should get a new one!
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That looks like a display model left with bootup screen on for several hours or perhaps a wallpaper which had the display on for several hours.
Looks like a replacement will be required.
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actually its not a display model.
this is very funny as there are hundreds of these units sold in iraq and a whole bunch come with the imprint.
i had no choice today but to repurchase (after i sold the last one) because this device simply has awesome hardware for the price.
there has to be a reason/thing causing this image.
its definitely not in the OS as it appears in CWM also.
any ideas?
Hello guys,
I am seeing a yellowish tint on the bottom left on my screen, but only on some grey background. I'm still on the 15 days returning window so I am thinking of sending my phone back.
Anyone with the same issue? Should I ask for a refund and purchase back a new phone or ask for an exchange?
Thanks.
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Hello guys,
I am seeing a yellowish tint on the bottom left on my screen, but only on some grey background. I'm still on the 15 days returning window so I am thinking of sending my phone back.
Anyone with the same issue? Should I ask for a refund and purchase back a new phone or ask for an exchange?
Thanks.
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Like any oled screen. It's a lottery what the colour shift, evenness. If you notice it you should exchange it. It will annoy you to no end
Yea it happens, u could exchange it but whos to say itll be worse or better? Maybe the device will have another defect thats major. Who knows of its really annoying u go for the exchange and pray.
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My color shifts a little when grey (I guess like yours) but I feel like it will look like this no matter how many times I exchange it. Still looks good IMO. Just suck a large screen so different angles may shift.
Cause the screen is so tall your always looking at parts of the screen at different angles
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Cause the screen is so tall your always looking at parts of the screen at different angles
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Nah if he looks at it straight on and still has color distortion its an amoled issue, its been like that for years any device that uses amoled will come across this color uniformity issues you can even google it samsung has it apple has it its common.
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Nah if he looks at it straight on and still has color distortion its an amoled issue, its been like that for years any device that uses amoled will come across this color uniformity issues you can even google it samsung has it apple has it its common.
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I know...I'm very aware and come across it often. But how severe it is is pot luck. Some are near perfect
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I know...I'm very aware and come across it often. But how severe it is is pot luck. Some are near perfect
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Id hope they got better it dont seem to be a 50/50 shot
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Id hope they got better it dont seem to be a 50/50 shot
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I think they may have improved a bit. But I've sent many devices back for tints or uneven colours . Including Samsung
Same here when i had an galaxy s8 and my op5.
I wont what the op did of he returned it or not lol