[Q] What happens after you root and there is a OTA update? - AT&T LG G3

All,
I'm on the fense with rooting and removing Carrier IQ and installing Greenify. What happens when there is a OTA update on our phones? Can I still install it? Obviously I know any updates, there is a chance it will kill the root but I'm more worried about being able to update the phone.
On a side note, what's up with the development of ROM's for this phone? This is the first phone I ever had where I have not seen much ROM's for it.
Thanks all!

Nutzzer said:
All,
I'm on the fense with rooting and removing Carrier IQ and installing Greenify. What happens when there is a OTA update on our phones? Can I still install it? Obviously I know any updates, there is a chance it will kill the root but I'm more worried about being able to update the phone.
On a side note, what's up with the development of ROM's for this phone? This is the first phone I ever had where I have not seen much ROM's for it.
Thanks all!
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The development of the the phone is so slow right not because the bootloader is unlocked. There is a bounty for the unlocked bootloader to be achieved but it has not been solved yet. If there is an OTA update for the phone, someone correct me if im wrong but I think you would have to go back stock and then re-root the device. I could be wrong though. Yeah I understand that you want to keep the phone up to date but I know updates will come very slow if its anything like the G2. I prefer root, debloated, carrier delete, and Greenufy any day over rare OTA's.

tee00max said:
The development of the the phone is so slow right not because the bootloader is unlocked. There is a bounty for the unlocked bootloader to be achieved but it has not been solved yet. If there is an OTA update for the phone, someone correct me if im wrong but I think you would have to go back stock and then re-root the device. I could be wrong though. Yeah I understand that you want to keep the phone up to date but I know updates will come very slow if its anything like the G2. I prefer root, debloated, carrier delete, and Greenufy any day over rare OTA's.
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Thanks for the reply!! I will follow your steps and root and apply those changes. Just weird that this is the first phone I have yet to root, thinking of keeping it stock, but the rooting itch is coming back.

Nutzzer said:
Thanks for the reply!! I will follow your steps and root and apply those changes. Just weird that this is the first phone I have yet to root, thinking of keeping it stock, but the rooting itch is coming back.
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Trust and believe me I have the same itch! lol. Every android device that I have ever owned has been rooted within the first week of owning it. I honestly try to not root and leave it as is but then again I cant't help it and have been using a good amount of tweaks that I cant go without for the most part. But with the changes with root that I said above and running Nova Launcher, I have no complaints right now.

Here's what i'm wondering. Will i need to reinstall the stock rom before i update? I debloated with titanium so my rom no longer has a bunch of files from the factory rom.
I hope LG is fast than last time with the updates though. Their history with updates made me very weary of this device.

smac7 said:
Here's what i'm wondering. Will i need to reinstall the stock rom before i update? I debloated with titanium so my rom no longer has a bunch of files from the factory rom.
I hope LG is fast than last time with the updates though. Their history with updates made me very weary of this device.
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Agreed, my guess is that we will see a bootloader unlock well in advance of an OTA from LG. There is not a tremendous amount of change that 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 could really deliver that the LG overlay does not do already (stock) in many ways. There are obviously features that 4.4.4 has we do not with LG's 4.4.2 overlay; but not a ton from a casual day-to-day view.

smac7 said:
Here's what i'm wondering. Will i need to reinstall the stock rom before i update? I debloated with titanium so my rom no longer has a bunch of files from the factory rom.
I hope LG is fast than last time with the updates though. Their history with updates made me very weary of this device.
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Did you not make a backup of the files that you deleted? I have all the stock folders of all the removed files.
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3's&7's said:
Agreed, my guess is that we will see a bootloader unlock well in advance of an OTA from LG. There is not a tremendous amount of change that 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 could really deliver that the LG overlay does not do already (stock) in many ways. There are obviously features that 4.4.4 has we do not with LG's 4.4.2 overlay; but not a ton from a casual day-to-day view.
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What im wondering is how long before we see Android L after it officially releases? I think we will not see it anytime soon...

3's&7's said:
Agreed, my guess is that we will see a bootloader unlock well in advance of an OTA from LG. There is not a tremendous amount of change that 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 could really deliver that the LG overlay does not do already (stock) in many ways. There are obviously features that 4.4.4 has we do not with LG's 4.4.2 overlay; but not a ton from a casual day-to-day view.
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yeah, i don't care about 4.4.4. I'm thinking about Android L though.
tee00max said:
Did you not make a backup of the files that you deleted? I have all the stock folders of all the removed files.
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What im wondering is how long before we see Android L after it officially releases? I think we will not see it anytime soon...
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No, i didn't. that would have been smart though. I'm not used to using a rooted rom without custom roms haha.

To take an OTA after rooting all you need to do is unroot through SuperSU and take the update. If you don't see the update after unrooting, do a factory restore. Its simple. You don't have to flash a stock firmware to update.
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tee00max said:
The development of the the phone is so slow right not because the bootloader is unlocked. There is a bounty for the unlocked bootloader to be achieved but it has not been solved yet. If there is an OTA update for the phone, someone correct me if im wrong but I think you would have to go back stock and then re-root the device. I could be wrong though. Yeah I understand that you want to keep the phone up to date but I know updates will come very slow if its anything like the G2. I prefer root, debloated, carrier delete, and Greenufy any day over rare OTA's.
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Pretty sure it's just a typo, but the bootloader is locked, not unlocked.

Skizzy034 said:
To take an OTA after rooting all you need to do is unroot through SuperSU and take the update. If you don't see the update after unrooting, do a factory restore. Its simple. You don't have to flash a stock firmware to update.
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Pretty sure it's just a typo, but the bootloader is locked, not unlocked.
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Oops yeah your right. I meants locked..thanks.:good:

tee00max said:
What im wondering is how long before we see Android L after it officially releases? I think we will not see it anytime soon...
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It all depends on when Google will release it. But don't expect it any earlier than January. If I had to guess, I would say sometime in February

Enddo said:
It all depends on when Google will release it. But don't expect it any earlier than January. If I had to guess, I would say sometime in February
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O yeah im most certainly not holding my breath on it! But will be patient and run the G3 with root and Xposed and im good. Only is we could get this Bootloader unlocked!

tee00max said:
O yeah im most certainly not holding my breath on it! But will be patient and run the G3 with root and Xposed and im good. Only is we could get this Bootloader unlocked!
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I am excited about Android L as well and cant wait for it lol.
As to the Op's question, I am a bit more cautious about taking ota updates some. If I choose to update I usually unroot, and undo any changes I've made to the system such as xposed modules and xposed framework, and revert any build prop changes, then take the OTA.

Skizzy034 said:
To take an OTA after rooting all you need to do is unroot through SuperSU and take the update. If you don't see the update after unrooting, do a factory restore. Its simple. You don't have to flash a stock firmware to update.
So if i have a modified stock rom right now i should be able to simply unroot and then take the update even though i am missing files from the original factory rom? I don't think i've ever taken an OTA in my life since i always flash through recovery.
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[Q] Can you ROOT G2 4.4.2 yet? Tried with ioroot

I was wondering if rooting is possible on T-mobile's LG G2 yet on the 4.4.2 KitKat update. I had root privileges before and then when I updated I lost them. I'm not interested in going back to 4.2.2. Then I came across ioroot25, claiming to have added support for 4.4.2 devices. The process was only like 2 steps, the first being to root into recovery. Whenever I try to do that I see the little android dude on my screen for a fraction of a second saying something like installing system update (main point being, the root batch file from ioroot25 isn't getting the device to go into recovery, meaning I CAN'T accept the adb update, which was step two)
ANY SOLUTION?
tayloretl said:
I was wondering if rooting is possible on T-mobile's LG G2 yet on the 4.4.2 KitKat update. I had root privileges before and then when I updated I lost them. I'm not interested in going back to 4.2.2. Then I came across ioroot25, claiming to have added support for 4.4.2 devices. The process was only like 2 steps, the first being to root into recovery. Whenever I try to do that I see the little android dude on my screen for a fraction of a second saying something like installing system update (main point being, the root batch file from ioroot25 isn't getting the device to go into recovery, meaning I CAN'T accept the adb update, which was step two)
ANY SOLUTION?
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From what I understand, the d801 is the only device that there's this problem with. It doesn't work at the moment but they're working on a fix for it.
Freegee is working for recovery now tho once u get root.
Yeah, really sucks... T-Mobile is a no go atm. No way to boot into stock recovery from 4.4.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51523100
Hey guys. Any update on the TMO 4.4.2 root or is it still unsolved?
deepac said:
Hey guys. Any update on the TMO 4.4.2 root or is it still unsolved?
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Very much not resolved yet...It is like candy got handed out to all the kids and we got skipped hahahaha!
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Well here we go... At least it is a fix of some kind.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51566197
Still waiting :/
chmura said:
Still waiting :/
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same here. where can we get an update?
buenarc said:
same here. where can we get an update?
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For all other G2 models, the ioroot method (version 25) works. One prerequisite for that method is access to recovery. We (d801 owners) do not have access to recovery. Attempts to access recovery are being documented in the thread titled "[Please Read] We need help to try and find out how to get into stock 4.4 recovery!" Keep your eye on that thread. If we can get access to recovery, we can use ioroot.

OTA for Verizon?

When I go to manually update my phone, I'm getting an OTA update.
Anyone know what the update is? I'm rooted so I can't install it and clicking the learn more link takes me to a dead website.
im downloading now, not rooted.
Edit: Just states enhancements and improvements. android version : still 5.0.2 / build number : LRX22G. G920VVRU1A0E2
Tried to update and it failed on me. Can't get it to go again.
Edit: Tried the update again and it worked.
I just updated mine successfully and all it showed was.. "Software updated to G925VVRU1AOE2" The link to "Learn More Online" was to a 404 page
Apparently this is what the updated is, but I can't update cuz I'm rooted
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/06/0...rst-update-with-hd-voice-photo-editor-tweaks/
The ram management seems to be a bit better now, will have to see if the battery life especially on wifi has improved.
I don't think it's worth going through unrooting process. The updates are minor.
Just wait till one of the ROM's are updated and flash that.
Has anyone taken the update and still was able to root?
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-galaxy-s6-6-2-15.pdf?null
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Nothing I see is worth the update. I've turned off HD Voice...that seems to be one of the major battery drains. Ill wait till others download and see if there is an improvement
The release notes seem to have a different FW version AOD5 rather than AOE2 which is the actual OTA.
It should still be rootable if it matches other AOE2 ROMs from other carriers but only time will tell.
There is a download on Samsung-Updates of the Full TAR.
my 2 cents
The root app has to be updated with this update if you flash this you will not be able to root until pingpong updates it just a warning I took the plunge.
jparasita said:
The root app has to be updated with this update if you flash this you will not be able to root until pingpong updates it just a warning I took the plunge.
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Can you flash back to OC3?
Misterxtc said:
Can you flash back to OC3?
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I will try that now rom related we have the update for cleanrom.
So the only way to take the Ota is to flash back to stock?
NoFanboy said:
So the only way to take the Ota is to flash back to stock?
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You can download it here and use Odin but if you are rooted wait for a rooted ROM or you risk loosing root.
Misterxtc said:
You can download it here and use Odin but if you are rooted wait for a rooted ROM or you risk loosing root.
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I'm kinda new to samsung phones, if I flash the stock tar file it'll erase my phone right?
Misterxtc said:
You can download it here and use Odin but if you are rooted wait for a rooted ROM or you risk loosing root.
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NoFanboy said:
I'm kinda new to samsung phones, if I flash the stock tar file it'll erase my phone right?
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I can confirm that you can flash back can someone capture just the ota?
jparasita said:
I can confirm that you can flash back can someone capture just the ota?
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Thank you. I ran out of thanks for the day and couldn't hit the button.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Veri...-Galaxy-S6-and-Samsung-Galaxy-S6-edge_id69994
Optimizing now.
"One of the new features gives you the ability to make drawings in the photo editor. There are also some layout changes to HD Voice Calling options.
Besides those minor additions, the update also exterminates some bugs that have afflicted the two models. "
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Drawing on a picture is awesome.

6.0.1_MM_Factory_Odin_Tar_Images

Latest DPD1 6.0.1 MM Factory Tar Image​
Full System Restore Images​Fully Stock Odin Factory Tar Image (Caution This Will Lock Your Bootloaders And Keep You From Downgrading To KitKat Firmwares)
6.0.1 MM VZW-G900VVRU2DPD1-20160511030450.zip
5.0 KK G900VVRU2BPB1_G900VVZW2BPB1_VZW.zip
5.0 KK G900VVRU2BOK3_G900VVZW2BOK3_VZW.zip
5.0 KK G900VVRU2BOG5_G900VVZW2BOG5_VZW.zip
Full System Restore Images With No Aboot Bootloader For Dev Unlocked Bootloaders
6.0.1 MM PD1_Full_Factory_Restore_No_Aboot.tar.zip
Firmware Only (Bootloader,Modem,Kernel,Recovery)​
Modem Only​VZW_BOK3_MODEM_NONHLOS_ONLY.tar.md5
VZW_BOK3_MODEM_ONLY.tar.md5
Kernel(Boot.img) Only​VZW_BOK3_KERNEL_ONLY.tar.md5
For Dev. Ed. owners
Here is a full stock tar without the bootloader and without the recovery for Dev. Ed. owners
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347794573
Just make sure you have SuperSU on your SD card to flash it in recovery after updating to re-root https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU
This is for Developer Edition owners only
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BOG5 Factory Tar Images​
Fully Stock Odin Factory Tar Image (Caution This Will Lock Your Bootloaders And Keep You From Downgrading To Obtain Root!!)
G900VVRU2BOG5_G900VVZW2BOG5_VZW.zip
Full Stock Odin Factory Tar Image With BOD5 Bootloaders (This Will Allow You To Still Downgrade To Earlier Builds)
VZW_BOG5_RETAIL_FULL_FIRMWARE_WITH_BOD5_BL.tar.zip
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So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?
XNO said:
So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?
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I'm wondering the same thing. It's been a while since I've heard anything about efforts to downgrade from OE1. I'm unrooted and would so desperately like to root, but unfortunately installed stock OE1 :crying:, and then OG5. I really really hope there will be some method of rooting in my situation. Hating the fact that I bought a device that I can't use the way I'd like because some screwball company thinks people are too stupid to be trusted.
I really appreciate everyone's efforts here. Keep up the wonderful work and keep us updated!
XNO said:
So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?
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equazcion said:
I'm wondering the same thing. It's been a while since I've heard anything about efforts to downgrade from OE1. I'm unrooted and would so desperately like to root, but unfortunately installed stock OE1 :crying:, and then OG5. I really really hope there will be some method of rooting in my situation. Hating the fact that I bought a device that I can't use the way I'd like because some screwball company thinks people are too stupid to be trusted.
I really appreciate everyone's efforts here. Keep up the wonderful work and keep us updated!
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Sorry guys! You can try but Im sure the tar image with the bod5 bootloaders will fail if your already on BOE1 or higher
jrkruse said:
Sorry guys! You can try but Im sure the tar image with the bod5 bootloaders will fail if your already on BOE1 or higher
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Thanks I found out the hard way LOL. All good now tho.
XNO said:
So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?
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I too am interested in this. I lost root and was hoping this version that Verizon installed today would allow me to re-root.
skister77 said:
I too am interested in this. I lost root and was hoping this version that Verizon installed today would allow me to re-root.
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Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?
skister77 said:
I too am interested in this. I lost root and was hoping this version that Verizon installed today would allow me to re-root.
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ldeveraux said:
Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?
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To add to what ldeveraux wrote, your question was literally answered two posts above yours. Does anyone even bother to read anything anymore? Or is it that reading comprehension is completely a thing of the past?
ldeveraux said:
Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?
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Stuff happens. Maybe somebody made a mistake.
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Stuff happens. Maybe somebody made a mistake.
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It's true that mistakes can happen, but once they patch the bootloader to prevent downgrading, they don't actually have to touch it again. So if they don't change anything in it, then the chance of breaking it is slim to none. Not to mention this update didn't do much anyways.
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ldeveraux said:
Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?
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So just to be clear Ideveraux, because I don't quite understand, are you saying OE1 is not rootable but OG5 has a chance?
Spartan117H3 said:
It's true that mistakes can happen, but once they patch the bootloader to prevent downgrading, they don't actually have to touch it again. So if they don't change anything in it, then the chance of breaking it is slim to none. Not to mention this update didn't do much anyways.
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It involved a security update so I was hoping maybe someone messed up somewhere :silly: one can hope. I purchased my phone with OE1 already installed so I was kinda screwed from the ground up and going from an S4 rooted running TWRP and a Hyperdrive ROM to a stock unrooted bloated phone rubs me harsh lol
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So just to be clear Ideveraux, because I don't quite understand, are you saying OE1 is not rootable but OG5 has a chance?
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Anything OE1 or higher cannot be rooted. OG5 is higher than OE1, and therefore has the same issues for people who want to root that OE1 has. OE1 has a bootloader that disallows downgrading of firmware which is required to root these phones. The only way you can still downgrade OE1/OG5 is if you came from a rooted phone and did NOT take OTA OE1/OG5, and flashed a firmware that did not change the bootloader.
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It involved a security update so I was hoping maybe someone messed up somewhere :silly: one can hope. I purchased my phone with OE1 already installed so I was kinda screwed from the ground up and going from an S4 rooted running TWRP and a Hyperdrive ROM to a stock unrooted bloated phone rubs me harsh lol
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The stagefright that was incompletely patched was apparently 4 lines of code somewhere in one of the system files, wouldn't be in the bootloader. I understand the sentiments, I would have returned the phone immediately in your case. I'm already running out of patience even being rooted, with the locked bootloader and whatnot. Trying to patiently wait for the Nexus 6 2015 this year.
Spartan117H3 said:
Anything OE1 or higher cannot be rooted. OG5 is higher than OE1, and therefore has the same issues for people who want to root that OE1 has. OE1 has a bootloader that disallows downgrading of firmware which is required to root these phones. The only way you can still downgrade OE1/OG5 is if you came from a rooted phone and did NOT take OTA OE1/OG5, and flashed a firmware that did not change the bootloader.
The stagefright that was incompletely patched was apparently 4 lines of code somewhere in one of the system files, wouldn't be in the bootloader. I understand the sentiments, I would have returned the phone immediately in your case. I'm already running out of patience even being rooted, with the locked bootloader and whatnot. Trying to patiently wait for the Nexus 6 2015 this year.
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Thanks Spartan, I'm just messing with ldeveraux because all i ever read from him is negative comments like he is super annoyed at everyone asking questions.
XNO said:
Thanks Spartan, I'm just messing with ldeveraux because all i ever read from him is negative comments like he is super annoyed at everyone REPEATING questions.
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FTFY
XNO said:
Thanks Spartan, I'm just messing with ldeveraux because all i ever read from him is negative comments like he is super annoyed at everyone asking questions.
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It has been repeated a million times though, in basically every "recent" thread so I can see why people would be frustrated. The issue is, the more people post the same questions, the more hidden the important questions get, leaving people even less likely to read/search the thread for their answers. Just basic forum etiquette IMO. I'm just a little more patient at times answering questions, that's all.
Verizon s5
Spartan117H3 said:
Anything OE1 or higher cannot be rooted. OG5 is higher than OE1, and therefore has the same issues for people who want to root that OE1 has. OE1 has a bootloader that disallows downgrading of firmware which is required to root these phones. The only way you can still downgrade OE1/OG5 is if you came from a rooted phone and did NOT take OTA OE1/OG5, and flashed a firmware that did not change the bootloader.
The stagefright that was incompletely patched was apparently 4 lines of code somewhere in one of the system files, wouldn't be in the bootloader. I understand the sentiments, I would have returned the phone immediately in your case. I'm already running out of patience even being rooted, with the locked bootloader and whatnot. Trying to patiently wait for the Nexus 6 2015 this year.
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well it sounds like to me everybody in the computer world cannot find a way to unlock the bootloader that is on OE1 or higher I'm thinking surely there's somebody out there that can figure out a way to do it so I would be able to contain root against
trucker950 said:
well it sounds like to me everybody in the computer world cannot find a way to unlock the bootloader that is on OE1 or higher I'm thinking surely there's somebody out there that can figure out a way to do it so I would be able to contain root against
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There was an $18,000 bounty for a root method and bootloader unlock before one came out. Geohot used Pinkie Pie's findings of an exploit in all Linux kernels to create his root. He now works for Google's Project Zero and isn't allowed to provide root, and even if he was allowed, he probably doesn't care anymore. That exploit has since been patched, hence the need to downgrade to apply Towelroot. Since then, Verizon has blocked the ability to downgrade.
Notes: Bootloader is still locked despite the length of time this phone has been out. This phone is also "dying" and support is mostly gone considering many of the devs went to other devices/new S6, or devices/carriers that don't have this locked bootloader issue. Look at the Note forum. There's still not even a real root for them, they have a temporary one the last time I checked.
So no. Not only are few people looking if they are at all, but support of this phone from Verizon is probably gone as well. This OG5 is more of a mandatory security patch than a new update. 5.0 is most likely the last version for Verizon's S5 (I'd be surprised if they released 5.1/5.1.1).
Spartan117H3 said:
There was an $18,000 bounty for a root method and bootloader unlock before one came out. Geohot used Pinkie Pie's findings of an exploit in all Linux kernels to create his root. He now works for Google's Project Zero and isn't allowed to provide root, and even if he was allowed, he probably doesn't care anymore. That exploit has since been patched, hence the need to downgrade to apply Towelroot. Since then, Verizon has blocked the ability to downgrade.
Notes: Bootloader is still locked despite the length of time this phone has been out. This phone is also "dying" and support is mostly gone considering many of the devs went to other devices/new S6, or devices/carriers that don't have this locked bootloader issue. Look at the Note forum. There's still not even a real root for them, they have a temporary one the last time I checked.
So no. Not only are few people looking if they are at all, but support of this phone from Verizon is probably gone as well. This OG5 is more of a mandatory security patch than a new update. 5.0 is most likely the last version for Verizon's S5 (I'd be surprised if they released 5.1/5.1.1).
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You couldn't have summed up the S5 situation any better. Cheers!

LG G4 Marshmellow Update

Hey everyone,
So I found online that the AT&T update to Marshmellow started on 2-8-16. I haven't been able to find anything officially from AT&T but apperently the version is H81020n and its 971 MB. Has anyone gotten the update yet?
Just saw this thread and figured I'd check. Went into the update center and notification popped up for new 950mb update. Must be it cause I was already on 10o. Didn't even have to use LG Bridge like the other carrier guys were doing.
Will post back with an update once completed
Tremulant1 said:
Hey everyone,
So I found online that the AT&T update to Marshmellow started on 2-8-16. I haven't been able to find anything officially from AT&T but apperently the version is H81020n and its 971 MB. Has anyone gotten the update yet?
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It's official now. You can check it at http://www.att.com/esupport/article...are&siteId=JAF5WzpxbKM-2ZjtzA2obzUjSzdgu.LzJA
I just wonder if I can update via LG Bridge without an AT&T sim since I bought a second hand one and don't have AT&T sim now.
sarang.sss29 said:
Hey, can anyone capture the OTA link before you download?
Try this out: http://wp.me/p6Md8q-cB
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I would have done this but didn't even think about it when I saw the update come through. Was happy to finally be getting 6.0
Hopefully somebody else can help you with that.
I fell asleep during the update process but just finished running the Debloater tool and getting rid of all the att/lg junk! So far so good. Will be keeping an eye on battery life over the next couple days.
x2o said:
I would have done this but didn't even think about it when I saw the update come through. Was happy to finally be getting 6.0
Hopefully somebody else can help you with that.
I fell asleep during the update process but just finished running the Debloater tool and getting rid of all the att/lg junk! So far so good. Will be keeping an eye on battery life over the next couple days.
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Debloater tool needs root? I hate to ask this but can you link me to the debloater tool?
InflatedTitan said:
Debloater tool needs root? I hate to ask this but can you link me to the debloater tool?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Debloater does not need root as long as you are running KitKat or newer :good:. Without root it just freezes/disables the apps instead of completely removing them.
edit : these are the apps i block using debloater without losing any functionality i need : http://pastebin.com/d64Vydmy
sarang.sss29 said:
Hey, can anyone capture the OTA link before you download?
Try this out: http://wp.me/p6Md8q-cB
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tried, it doesn't show up in my logcat. sorry
So, and I apologize if this is a stupid question, will Chainfire's advances in the systemless SuperSU help us when it comes to rooting Marshmallow on our H810?
can we update AT&T phone OTA outside the US without at&t sim card???
niftium said:
So, and I apologize if this is a stupid question, will Chainfire's advances in the systemless SuperSU help us when it comes to rooting Marshmallow on our H810?
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not possible. you can't modify the system files and boot without a modified kernel. We don't have an unlocked bootloader, so no kernels, thus no root.
if you root MM your phone will just loop without the custom kernel.
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so the file it downloaded isn't a zip... it's just 'dlpkgfile'
7zip can open it but there's a similar file inside and that one can't be opened.... dunno.
http://mab.to/Z1CLKzcU6
screwyluie said:
not possible. you can't modify the system files and boot without a modified kernel. We don't have an unlocked bootloader, so no kernels, thus no root.
if you root MM your phone will just loop without the custom kernel.
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so the file it downloaded isn't a zip... it's just 'dlpkgfile'
7zip can open it but there's a similar file inside and that one can't be opened.... dunno.
http://mab.to/Z1CLKzcU6
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That's the missing piece I needed to understand. Thanks! Sucks, but thanks! :highfive:
got it! looks good to me - so far...
I upgraded early yesterday morning and my phone has been hot almost all the time!! The battery life is way worse than prior to the upgrade. I have cleaned out all my junk files and cache rebooted and recharged a few times. Also optimized my apps a few times. I just picked up my phone after 2 hours of no use and it was warm and the battery is draining at a faster rate than with Lollipop... Anybody else experiencing this?
Awesome, glad the update is out....I haven't done the update just yet...waiting to see if we hear anything about root. I'm wondering if we are still able to downgrade via TOT method if need be...if that's the case then i'll update ASAP. I actually have heard that there are some battery issues with the update, but again I'm not on 6.0 yet so I can't tell you from my experience.
2 questions
So their is no root ?
Also can I just unistall SuperSU and update or do I need to wait tell I'm home and flash a clean image
dsilx said:
So their is no root ?
Also can I just unistall SuperSU and update or do I need to wait tell I'm home and flash a clean image
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No root.
I've never managed to update w/o flashing the unrooted version of whatever rooted version I'm running. If there's an easier way, I'm not aware of it.
H8101o
niftium said:
No root.
I've never managed to update w/o flashing the unrooted version of whatever rooted version I'm running. If there's an easier way, I'm not aware of it.
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Can you give me a link to a non rooted h81010o file please
dsilx said:
Can you give me a link to a non rooted h81010o file please
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@antoniopujadas uploaded and shared an unrooted 10O image a while back in the 10I thread:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByR1n8l45m82aFlKcmNOc1k4N00/view?usp=sharing
Sorry to ask
niftium said:
@antoniopujadas uploaded and shared an unrooted 10O image a while back in the 10I thread:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByR1n8l45m82aFlKcmNOc1k4N00/view?usp=sharing
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Nvm
kalas87 said:
can we update AT&T phone OTA outside the US without at&t sim card???
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Asking too

[Q] Rooted update to nougat?

Hey guys,
I just got the new controller and went through the disappointment of finding out that I have to wait for another few valve time weeks to be able to use it to it's full potential.
Now I count myself as a total technical mongoloid and it took me quite a bit of effort to root my tablet when i got it in marshmallow.
My question now is such: Does anyone know what the process of updating a rooted marshmallow to nougat is going to look like? I don't expect it to be me just tapping the update prompt...
TL;DR: What's the rooted update to Nougat gonna look like?
Kingarthur0407 said:
Hey guys,
I just got the new controller and went through the disappointment of finding out that I have to wait for another few valve time weeks to be able to use it to it's full potential.
Now I count myself as a total technical mongoloid and it took me quite a bit of effort to root my tablet when i got it in marshmallow.
My question now is such: Does anyone know what the process of updating a rooted marshmallow to nougat is going to look like? I don't expect it to be me just tapping the update prompt...
TL;DR: What's the rooted update to Nougat gonna look like?
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You should unroot the device before doing the update.
Just flash stock system file from your PC.
Bryandu13 said:
You should unroot the device before doing the update.
Just flash stock system file from your PC.
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Could you kindly throw me a link to a simple to understand tutorial on how to unroot the tablet? Also will i have to factory reset it or can I keep my files?
https://youtu.be/GsMo1tPlIFU
Do this with the last firmware (if you are on the last) available on NVIDIA website but just flash System partition and recovery.
On my tablet it shows that Nugat not that MM is final and no further .... mam OTA 4.4 .. so it will only be for a version?
k3wlar said:
On my tablet it shows that Nugat not that MM is final and no further .... mam OTA 4.4 .. so it will only be for a version?
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A ted jeste jednou ale aby se tomu dalo rozumet
Bryandu13 said:
youtu.be/GsMo1tPlIFU
Do this with the last firmware (if you are on the last) available on NVIDIA website but just flash System partition and recovery.
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Quick boot doesn't seem to be available anymore... is there something else we should use?
Also, I downloaded the update before I saw that it doesn't really improve much. I don't want it now, but it's downloaded and says it will install on a restart. Is there any way to prevent this? Can I delete the update somehow?
Thanks
Interinactive said:
Also, I downloaded the update before I saw that it doesn't really improve much. I don't want it now
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The update has made my K1 significantly snappier, smoother and faster. Especially opening apps, going back to home screen, app drawer, etc. Not a huge change, but it's significant.
Plus, security patches are important. I'd disagree that N "doesn't improve much".
I havent noticed too much of a change updating to nougat but the multi-window is kinda cool. Root was easy to get after updating. You just flash twrp with fastboot flash recovery, boot into recovery and flash supersu zip worked for me no problem. The main complaint i have with the nougat update is i dont seem to be able to use kali nethunter anymore, which sucks. If anyone knows how i can get it working that'd be awesome. Im thinking of restoring my mm backup i made right before i updated just to get nethunter back.
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Oh and i did not unroot my devices before i updated and it was fine. Although i did lose my root and also my recovery. but like a explained above both were very easy to get back, took all of five min hope this helps you.
messymatthew said:
[/COLOR]Oh and i did not unroot my devices before i updated and it was fine. Although i did lose my root and also my recovery. but like a explained above both were very easy to get back, took all of five min hope this helps you.
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Thanks for your input, I just tried it and as you said it worked fine

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