6.0.1_MM_Factory_Odin_Tar_Images - Verizon Galaxy S 5 General

Latest DPD1 6.0.1 MM Factory Tar Image​
Full System Restore Images​Fully Stock Odin Factory Tar Image (Caution This Will Lock Your Bootloaders And Keep You From Downgrading To KitKat Firmwares)
6.0.1 MM VZW-G900VVRU2DPD1-20160511030450.zip
5.0 KK G900VVRU2BPB1_G900VVZW2BPB1_VZW.zip
5.0 KK G900VVRU2BOK3_G900VVZW2BOK3_VZW.zip
5.0 KK G900VVRU2BOG5_G900VVZW2BOG5_VZW.zip
Full System Restore Images With No Aboot Bootloader For Dev Unlocked Bootloaders
6.0.1 MM PD1_Full_Factory_Restore_No_Aboot.tar.zip
Firmware Only (Bootloader,Modem,Kernel,Recovery)​
Modem Only​VZW_BOK3_MODEM_NONHLOS_ONLY.tar.md5
VZW_BOK3_MODEM_ONLY.tar.md5
Kernel(Boot.img) Only​VZW_BOK3_KERNEL_ONLY.tar.md5

For Dev. Ed. owners
Here is a full stock tar without the bootloader and without the recovery for Dev. Ed. owners
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347794573
Just make sure you have SuperSU on your SD card to flash it in recovery after updating to re-root https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU
This is for Developer Edition owners only

jrkruse said:
BOG5 Factory Tar Images​
Fully Stock Odin Factory Tar Image (Caution This Will Lock Your Bootloaders And Keep You From Downgrading To Obtain Root!!)
G900VVRU2BOG5_G900VVZW2BOG5_VZW.zip
Full Stock Odin Factory Tar Image With BOD5 Bootloaders (This Will Allow You To Still Downgrade To Earlier Builds)
VZW_BOG5_RETAIL_FULL_FIRMWARE_WITH_BOD5_BL.tar.zip
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So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?

XNO said:
So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?
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I'm wondering the same thing. It's been a while since I've heard anything about efforts to downgrade from OE1. I'm unrooted and would so desperately like to root, but unfortunately installed stock OE1 :crying:, and then OG5. I really really hope there will be some method of rooting in my situation. Hating the fact that I bought a device that I can't use the way I'd like because some screwball company thinks people are too stupid to be trusted.
I really appreciate everyone's efforts here. Keep up the wonderful work and keep us updated!

XNO said:
So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?
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equazcion said:
I'm wondering the same thing. It's been a while since I've heard anything about efforts to downgrade from OE1. I'm unrooted and would so desperately like to root, but unfortunately installed stock OE1 :crying:, and then OG5. I really really hope there will be some method of rooting in my situation. Hating the fact that I bought a device that I can't use the way I'd like because some screwball company thinks people are too stupid to be trusted.
I really appreciate everyone's efforts here. Keep up the wonderful work and keep us updated!
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Sorry guys! You can try but Im sure the tar image with the bod5 bootloaders will fail if your already on BOE1 or higher

jrkruse said:
Sorry guys! You can try but Im sure the tar image with the bod5 bootloaders will fail if your already on BOE1 or higher
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Thanks I found out the hard way LOL. All good now tho.

XNO said:
So if I am on Stock OE1 and flash the second link are you saying I can downgrade to root?
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I too am interested in this. I lost root and was hoping this version that Verizon installed today would allow me to re-root.

skister77 said:
I too am interested in this. I lost root and was hoping this version that Verizon installed today would allow me to re-root.
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Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?

skister77 said:
I too am interested in this. I lost root and was hoping this version that Verizon installed today would allow me to re-root.
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ldeveraux said:
Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?
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To add to what ldeveraux wrote, your question was literally answered two posts above yours. Does anyone even bother to read anything anymore? Or is it that reading comprehension is completely a thing of the past?

ldeveraux said:
Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?
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Stuff happens. Maybe somebody made a mistake.
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DraconicSeed said:
Stuff happens. Maybe somebody made a mistake.
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It's true that mistakes can happen, but once they patch the bootloader to prevent downgrading, they don't actually have to touch it again. So if they don't change anything in it, then the chance of breaking it is slim to none. Not to mention this update didn't do much anyways.

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ldeveraux said:
Oh dear lord, no no no no. Stop asking the same questions repeatedly hoping for a different answer. For the last time, if you are on oe1 and didn't keep the od bootloader, that's it, you're done.
And for the record, why would Verizon release an update that would re-allow to root? Why would that ever happen intentionally?
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So just to be clear Ideveraux, because I don't quite understand, are you saying OE1 is not rootable but OG5 has a chance?

Spartan117H3 said:
It's true that mistakes can happen, but once they patch the bootloader to prevent downgrading, they don't actually have to touch it again. So if they don't change anything in it, then the chance of breaking it is slim to none. Not to mention this update didn't do much anyways.
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It involved a security update so I was hoping maybe someone messed up somewhere :silly: one can hope. I purchased my phone with OE1 already installed so I was kinda screwed from the ground up and going from an S4 rooted running TWRP and a Hyperdrive ROM to a stock unrooted bloated phone rubs me harsh lol

XNO said:
So just to be clear Ideveraux, because I don't quite understand, are you saying OE1 is not rootable but OG5 has a chance?
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Anything OE1 or higher cannot be rooted. OG5 is higher than OE1, and therefore has the same issues for people who want to root that OE1 has. OE1 has a bootloader that disallows downgrading of firmware which is required to root these phones. The only way you can still downgrade OE1/OG5 is if you came from a rooted phone and did NOT take OTA OE1/OG5, and flashed a firmware that did not change the bootloader.
DraconicSeed said:
It involved a security update so I was hoping maybe someone messed up somewhere :silly: one can hope. I purchased my phone with OE1 already installed so I was kinda screwed from the ground up and going from an S4 rooted running TWRP and a Hyperdrive ROM to a stock unrooted bloated phone rubs me harsh lol
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The stagefright that was incompletely patched was apparently 4 lines of code somewhere in one of the system files, wouldn't be in the bootloader. I understand the sentiments, I would have returned the phone immediately in your case. I'm already running out of patience even being rooted, with the locked bootloader and whatnot. Trying to patiently wait for the Nexus 6 2015 this year.

Spartan117H3 said:
Anything OE1 or higher cannot be rooted. OG5 is higher than OE1, and therefore has the same issues for people who want to root that OE1 has. OE1 has a bootloader that disallows downgrading of firmware which is required to root these phones. The only way you can still downgrade OE1/OG5 is if you came from a rooted phone and did NOT take OTA OE1/OG5, and flashed a firmware that did not change the bootloader.
The stagefright that was incompletely patched was apparently 4 lines of code somewhere in one of the system files, wouldn't be in the bootloader. I understand the sentiments, I would have returned the phone immediately in your case. I'm already running out of patience even being rooted, with the locked bootloader and whatnot. Trying to patiently wait for the Nexus 6 2015 this year.
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Thanks Spartan, I'm just messing with ldeveraux because all i ever read from him is negative comments like he is super annoyed at everyone asking questions.

XNO said:
Thanks Spartan, I'm just messing with ldeveraux because all i ever read from him is negative comments like he is super annoyed at everyone REPEATING questions.
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FTFY

XNO said:
Thanks Spartan, I'm just messing with ldeveraux because all i ever read from him is negative comments like he is super annoyed at everyone asking questions.
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It has been repeated a million times though, in basically every "recent" thread so I can see why people would be frustrated. The issue is, the more people post the same questions, the more hidden the important questions get, leaving people even less likely to read/search the thread for their answers. Just basic forum etiquette IMO. I'm just a little more patient at times answering questions, that's all.

Verizon s5
Spartan117H3 said:
Anything OE1 or higher cannot be rooted. OG5 is higher than OE1, and therefore has the same issues for people who want to root that OE1 has. OE1 has a bootloader that disallows downgrading of firmware which is required to root these phones. The only way you can still downgrade OE1/OG5 is if you came from a rooted phone and did NOT take OTA OE1/OG5, and flashed a firmware that did not change the bootloader.
The stagefright that was incompletely patched was apparently 4 lines of code somewhere in one of the system files, wouldn't be in the bootloader. I understand the sentiments, I would have returned the phone immediately in your case. I'm already running out of patience even being rooted, with the locked bootloader and whatnot. Trying to patiently wait for the Nexus 6 2015 this year.
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well it sounds like to me everybody in the computer world cannot find a way to unlock the bootloader that is on OE1 or higher I'm thinking surely there's somebody out there that can figure out a way to do it so I would be able to contain root against

trucker950 said:
well it sounds like to me everybody in the computer world cannot find a way to unlock the bootloader that is on OE1 or higher I'm thinking surely there's somebody out there that can figure out a way to do it so I would be able to contain root against
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There was an $18,000 bounty for a root method and bootloader unlock before one came out. Geohot used Pinkie Pie's findings of an exploit in all Linux kernels to create his root. He now works for Google's Project Zero and isn't allowed to provide root, and even if he was allowed, he probably doesn't care anymore. That exploit has since been patched, hence the need to downgrade to apply Towelroot. Since then, Verizon has blocked the ability to downgrade.
Notes: Bootloader is still locked despite the length of time this phone has been out. This phone is also "dying" and support is mostly gone considering many of the devs went to other devices/new S6, or devices/carriers that don't have this locked bootloader issue. Look at the Note forum. There's still not even a real root for them, they have a temporary one the last time I checked.
So no. Not only are few people looking if they are at all, but support of this phone from Verizon is probably gone as well. This OG5 is more of a mandatory security patch than a new update. 5.0 is most likely the last version for Verizon's S5 (I'd be surprised if they released 5.1/5.1.1).

Spartan117H3 said:
There was an $18,000 bounty for a root method and bootloader unlock before one came out. Geohot used Pinkie Pie's findings of an exploit in all Linux kernels to create his root. He now works for Google's Project Zero and isn't allowed to provide root, and even if he was allowed, he probably doesn't care anymore. That exploit has since been patched, hence the need to downgrade to apply Towelroot. Since then, Verizon has blocked the ability to downgrade.
Notes: Bootloader is still locked despite the length of time this phone has been out. This phone is also "dying" and support is mostly gone considering many of the devs went to other devices/new S6, or devices/carriers that don't have this locked bootloader issue. Look at the Note forum. There's still not even a real root for them, they have a temporary one the last time I checked.
So no. Not only are few people looking if they are at all, but support of this phone from Verizon is probably gone as well. This OG5 is more of a mandatory security patch than a new update. 5.0 is most likely the last version for Verizon's S5 (I'd be surprised if they released 5.1/5.1.1).
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You couldn't have summed up the S5 situation any better. Cheers!

Related

New software update

I just got a notification on my phone about a new moto software update. Will it make it harder for my to flash, root, or mod my phone?
Everything is still stock on the phone i havent done any mods yet
The official bootloader unlock should work regardless, so no if you don't mind doing the official unlock method.
I've heard the exploit to get root without the official unlock has been closed, but I think someone else said they found a way around it. I don't know either way, I officially unlocked the device the day I got it
Is there a new update? post/after asa14?
Checked around but after seeing the old do this if you cant upgrade threads pop up I was curious.
Seen some traces of the 9.8.2Q JellyBean update for the Q, but don't know it's current status.
Interesting and good news, Just checked and mine stated not update available sadly..
Gxkon said:
I just got a notification on my phone about a new moto software update. Will it make it harder for my to flash, root, or mod my phone?
Everything is still stock on the phone i havent done any mods yet
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Can you share what this update is, OP? The small update from last month or is this Jelly Bean?
swintec said:
Can you share what this update is, OP? The small update from last month or is this Jelly Bean?
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I dont know it dont look like a new os. One was around 60 mb then i had a small 7 mb update
arrrghhh said:
The official bootloader unlock should work regardless, so no if you don't mind doing the official unlock method.
I've heard the exploit to get root without the official unlock has been closed, but I think someone else said they found a way around it. I don't know either way, I officially unlocked the device the day I got it
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Yeah, the motofail2go exploit to root works only if you haven't updated. After rooting, you can save root by Voodoo OTA rootkeeper, temp unroot, install any updates, then restore root with OTA rootkeeper. Works great, and you keep your warranty. But of course you can't flash any ROMs or anything, but you can still use Titanium backup, other programs that require root.
see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053444

[Q] What happens after you root and there is a OTA update?

All,
I'm on the fense with rooting and removing Carrier IQ and installing Greenify. What happens when there is a OTA update on our phones? Can I still install it? Obviously I know any updates, there is a chance it will kill the root but I'm more worried about being able to update the phone.
On a side note, what's up with the development of ROM's for this phone? This is the first phone I ever had where I have not seen much ROM's for it.
Thanks all!
Nutzzer said:
All,
I'm on the fense with rooting and removing Carrier IQ and installing Greenify. What happens when there is a OTA update on our phones? Can I still install it? Obviously I know any updates, there is a chance it will kill the root but I'm more worried about being able to update the phone.
On a side note, what's up with the development of ROM's for this phone? This is the first phone I ever had where I have not seen much ROM's for it.
Thanks all!
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The development of the the phone is so slow right not because the bootloader is unlocked. There is a bounty for the unlocked bootloader to be achieved but it has not been solved yet. If there is an OTA update for the phone, someone correct me if im wrong but I think you would have to go back stock and then re-root the device. I could be wrong though. Yeah I understand that you want to keep the phone up to date but I know updates will come very slow if its anything like the G2. I prefer root, debloated, carrier delete, and Greenufy any day over rare OTA's.
tee00max said:
The development of the the phone is so slow right not because the bootloader is unlocked. There is a bounty for the unlocked bootloader to be achieved but it has not been solved yet. If there is an OTA update for the phone, someone correct me if im wrong but I think you would have to go back stock and then re-root the device. I could be wrong though. Yeah I understand that you want to keep the phone up to date but I know updates will come very slow if its anything like the G2. I prefer root, debloated, carrier delete, and Greenufy any day over rare OTA's.
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Thanks for the reply!! I will follow your steps and root and apply those changes. Just weird that this is the first phone I have yet to root, thinking of keeping it stock, but the rooting itch is coming back.
Nutzzer said:
Thanks for the reply!! I will follow your steps and root and apply those changes. Just weird that this is the first phone I have yet to root, thinking of keeping it stock, but the rooting itch is coming back.
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Trust and believe me I have the same itch! lol. Every android device that I have ever owned has been rooted within the first week of owning it. I honestly try to not root and leave it as is but then again I cant't help it and have been using a good amount of tweaks that I cant go without for the most part. But with the changes with root that I said above and running Nova Launcher, I have no complaints right now.
Here's what i'm wondering. Will i need to reinstall the stock rom before i update? I debloated with titanium so my rom no longer has a bunch of files from the factory rom.
I hope LG is fast than last time with the updates though. Their history with updates made me very weary of this device.
smac7 said:
Here's what i'm wondering. Will i need to reinstall the stock rom before i update? I debloated with titanium so my rom no longer has a bunch of files from the factory rom.
I hope LG is fast than last time with the updates though. Their history with updates made me very weary of this device.
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Agreed, my guess is that we will see a bootloader unlock well in advance of an OTA from LG. There is not a tremendous amount of change that 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 could really deliver that the LG overlay does not do already (stock) in many ways. There are obviously features that 4.4.4 has we do not with LG's 4.4.2 overlay; but not a ton from a casual day-to-day view.
smac7 said:
Here's what i'm wondering. Will i need to reinstall the stock rom before i update? I debloated with titanium so my rom no longer has a bunch of files from the factory rom.
I hope LG is fast than last time with the updates though. Their history with updates made me very weary of this device.
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Did you not make a backup of the files that you deleted? I have all the stock folders of all the removed files.
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3's&7's said:
Agreed, my guess is that we will see a bootloader unlock well in advance of an OTA from LG. There is not a tremendous amount of change that 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 could really deliver that the LG overlay does not do already (stock) in many ways. There are obviously features that 4.4.4 has we do not with LG's 4.4.2 overlay; but not a ton from a casual day-to-day view.
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What im wondering is how long before we see Android L after it officially releases? I think we will not see it anytime soon...
3's&7's said:
Agreed, my guess is that we will see a bootloader unlock well in advance of an OTA from LG. There is not a tremendous amount of change that 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 could really deliver that the LG overlay does not do already (stock) in many ways. There are obviously features that 4.4.4 has we do not with LG's 4.4.2 overlay; but not a ton from a casual day-to-day view.
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yeah, i don't care about 4.4.4. I'm thinking about Android L though.
tee00max said:
Did you not make a backup of the files that you deleted? I have all the stock folders of all the removed files.
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What im wondering is how long before we see Android L after it officially releases? I think we will not see it anytime soon...
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No, i didn't. that would have been smart though. I'm not used to using a rooted rom without custom roms haha.
To take an OTA after rooting all you need to do is unroot through SuperSU and take the update. If you don't see the update after unrooting, do a factory restore. Its simple. You don't have to flash a stock firmware to update.
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tee00max said:
The development of the the phone is so slow right not because the bootloader is unlocked. There is a bounty for the unlocked bootloader to be achieved but it has not been solved yet. If there is an OTA update for the phone, someone correct me if im wrong but I think you would have to go back stock and then re-root the device. I could be wrong though. Yeah I understand that you want to keep the phone up to date but I know updates will come very slow if its anything like the G2. I prefer root, debloated, carrier delete, and Greenufy any day over rare OTA's.
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Pretty sure it's just a typo, but the bootloader is locked, not unlocked.
Skizzy034 said:
To take an OTA after rooting all you need to do is unroot through SuperSU and take the update. If you don't see the update after unrooting, do a factory restore. Its simple. You don't have to flash a stock firmware to update.
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Pretty sure it's just a typo, but the bootloader is locked, not unlocked.
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Oops yeah your right. I meants locked..thanks.:good:
tee00max said:
What im wondering is how long before we see Android L after it officially releases? I think we will not see it anytime soon...
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It all depends on when Google will release it. But don't expect it any earlier than January. If I had to guess, I would say sometime in February
Enddo said:
It all depends on when Google will release it. But don't expect it any earlier than January. If I had to guess, I would say sometime in February
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O yeah im most certainly not holding my breath on it! But will be patient and run the G3 with root and Xposed and im good. Only is we could get this Bootloader unlocked!
tee00max said:
O yeah im most certainly not holding my breath on it! But will be patient and run the G3 with root and Xposed and im good. Only is we could get this Bootloader unlocked!
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I am excited about Android L as well and cant wait for it lol.
As to the Op's question, I am a bit more cautious about taking ota updates some. If I choose to update I usually unroot, and undo any changes I've made to the system such as xposed modules and xposed framework, and revert any build prop changes, then take the OTA.
Skizzy034 said:
To take an OTA after rooting all you need to do is unroot through SuperSU and take the update. If you don't see the update after unrooting, do a factory restore. Its simple. You don't have to flash a stock firmware to update.
So if i have a modified stock rom right now i should be able to simply unroot and then take the update even though i am missing files from the original factory rom? I don't think i've ever taken an OTA in my life since i always flash through recovery.
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System Update won't let me downgrade or root.

I made the mistake of installing the most recent system update to change my baseband to G920VVRU2AOF1 and I tried re-rooting using ping-pong root and it won't let me install the su binary. I tried downgrading to OE2 using Odin, but that was a fail. Someone please help!!
deliberate.dev said:
I made the mistake of installing the most recent system update to change my baseband to G920VVRU2AOF1 and I tried re-rooting using ping-pong root and it won't let me install the su binary. I tried downgrading to OE2 using Odin, but that was a fail. Someone please help!!
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It sounds like Verizon is up to their old tricks and preventing rollback by incrementing the bootloader again. Sadly you are stuck with no way to root if you can not flash back. All you can do is try submitting your info to the pingpong root thread and hope they can root it.
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I made the mistake
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Not sure why you upgraded??
There is no root for the VZW version of the phone for that or newer versions now.
Pingpong will NEVER work again since its method of exploit was patched.
Most likey, another root method will come up but most likey will trip KNOX.
This is why they have been saying, DON'T UPGRADE OR TAKE A NEW OTA, but some people don't read or follow instructions. It is and has been on the pingpong root first post for some time.
krelvinaz said:
Not sure why you upgraded??
There is no root for the VZW version of the phone for that or newer versions now.
Pingpong will NEVER work again since its method of exploit was patched.
Most likey, another root method will come up but most likey will trip KNOX.
This is why they have been saying, DON'T UPGRADE OR TAKE A NEW OTA, but some people don't read or follow instructions. It is and has been on the pingpong root first post for some time.
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Plus when the new version is rootable by a custom ROM you still won't be able to downgrade. That leaves the high possibility to loose root when something goes wrong and you have to Odin back to stock. Hopefully 5.1.x will be able to roll back, if not I won't upgrade.
krelvinaz said:
Not sure why you upgraded??
There is no root for the VZW version of the phone for that or newer versions now.
Pingpong will NEVER work again since its method of exploit was patched.
Most likey, another root method will come up but most likey will trip KNOX.
This is why they have been saying, DON'T UPGRADE OR TAKE A NEW OTA, but some people don't read or follow instructions. It is and has been on the pingpong root first post for some time.
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Not sure why I upgraded either. Didn't research the consequences. It was an impulsive decision. I'm pissed I can't root my damn phone, can't even flash one of my backups.
I skim when I read the threads, and then my terrible memory gets me in situations like this.
Ugh, I need an App dev to make a new rooting app.
Just read the ping pong root thread... I'm a dumbass. :/
Misterxtc said:
Plus when the new version is rootable by a custom ROM you still won't be able to downgrade. That leaves the high possibility to loose root when something goes wrong and you have to Odin back to stock. Hopefully 5.1.x will be able to roll back, if not I won't upgrade.
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This upgrade s!#t is exactly that, [email protected]#t!! Don't upgrade. If they're not letting us downgrade with this upgrade, they're surely not going to let us downgrade with 5.1.x.
I'm still pissed. My battery is draining because of all the bloat that I can't manipulate if I were rooted. It's bugging the heck out of me not having full control of my phone.
Of course the upgrade wasn't good and why rooted users are not taking it.
You put you in the position you are in now. All the warnings were already there.
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Of course the upgrade wasn't good and why rooted users are not taking it.
You put you in the position you are in now. All the warnings were already there.
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I'm the only one to blame, I'm already aware. Thanks! And I truly mean that.
Rule #1 is never ever take an OTA, just wait. I don't mean to throw salt on the wounds or anything but hopefully you'll save others from making the same mistake and I'm sure you won't make it again.
There's a lot of smart people working on this phone so don't give up hope just yet, you might catch a break. Heck, maybe a sock puppet will leak an unlocked bootloader like what happened with the S3. You never know.
s197 said:
Rule #1 is never ever take an OTA, just wait. I don't mean to throw salt on the wounds or anything but hopefully you'll save others from making the same mistake and I'm sure you won't make it again.
There's a lot of smart people working on this phone so don't give up hope just yet, you might catch a break. Heck, maybe a sock puppet will leak an unlocked bootloader like what happened with the S3. You never know.
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Thanks, appreciate it. I guess this comes along with being a tester. I've got faith in the other developers who are working on it. I guess I'll just have to be patient.
Stay tuned...
Almost makes me want to cry.
Dont worry
deliberate.dev said:
Stay tuned...
Almost makes me want to cry.
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Same thing happened to me, I stayed up all night trying to find a quick root, I dont care about messing with KNOX I just want my custom ROM back! But noooo there just isnt much variety I guess. Now I have to suffer because Verizon is lame.
almacd3571 said:
Same thing happened to me, I stayed up all night trying to find a quick root, I dont care about messing with KNOX I just want my custom ROM back! But noooo there just isnt much variety I guess. Now I have to suffer because Verizon is lame.
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I feel somewhat relieved that I'm not alone on this. I've literally been screwing with my phone, Odin, and whatnot for hours trying to find a way of having somewhat control over this phone... obviously, to no avail. Tired of 'permission DENIED/Failed' prompts.
Same Here
deliberate.dev said:
I feel somewhat relieved that I'm not alone on this. I've literally been screwing with my phone, Odin, and whatnot for hours trying to find a way of having somewhat control over this phone... obviously, to no avail. Tired of 'permission DENIED/Failed' prompts.
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Yea, Hopefully a fix soon, I looked around for boot unlockers as well, and did not find any. Man it wa easy with a nexus, they make it hard with Samsung!
almacd3571 said:
Yea, Hopefully a fix soon, I looked around for boot unlockers as well, and did not find any. Man it wa easy with a nexus, they make it hard with Samsung!
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It's not so much Samsung's fault, it's our damn carrier, Verizon that's making phone manipulating harder. I've had the S2, two S3's, and an S4, and I've never had issues with unlocking, rooting, abusing them until I switched to Verizon and got the S6. These damn OTA's are unnecessary.
Your so true
It's not even that, but the lack of control and uselessness of the updates frustrate me, and probably alot of other people. Verizon needs to step it up. I actually work for Verizon. And let me tell you. They are sneaky. So many people come in about bills being overpriced or something. It's awful. Anyways. I have great faith in out moddkng community and their will be a fix soon!
Hi everyone! I just rooted...super excited now! A few questions....
1. How do I disable update prompt?
2. Can I delete bloatware by using Root Explorer app or should I move them to data first then uninstall?
3. I am looking through different threads and it looks like we still can't flash much due to locked bootloader, correct? I am still on 1AOC3 haha afraid to touch anything
Thank you in advance! Loving S6!!!
tats_06 said:
Hi everyone! I just rooted...super excited now! A few questions....
1. How do I disable update prompt?
2. Can I delete bloatware by using Root Explorer app or should I move them to data first then uninstall?
3. I am looking through different threads and it looks like we still can't flash much due to locked bootloader, correct? I am still on 1AOC3 haha afraid to touch anything
Thank you in advance! Loving S6!!!
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Kinda curious... why did you post this to a thread about a problem "System Update won't let me downgrade or root." do you have that problem or are you just posting where ever feels good.
There are a lot of existing threads which cover what you are asking about.
Absolutely.... I posted because:
1. I searched and couldn't find a relevant thread on what I needed ...
2. I am 7 months pregnant and just love posting around random threads because it feels good.
Gee, thank you for being nice....
krelvinaz said:
Kinda curious... why did you post this to a thread about a problem "System Update won't let me downgrade or root." do you have that problem or are you just posting where ever feels good.
There are a lot of existing threads which cover what you are asking about.
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Stuck at 5.1.1

Hello everyone,
Back in October, I had rooted my phone to install xposed etc. A little after that I received a notification for the stagefright update (i know that was a long time ago) and I ignored it (because of little time, I wanted to install cm13 but I never could find the time). Since marshmallow is a little more stable than lollipop, I would now like to shift to MM.
I distinctly remember trying to install the stagefright update (after rooting lollipop), and my phone went into a bootloop.
Two questions,
1. Does rooting not allow you to update your phone? Does it cause bootloop problems?
2. I want to stick to stock, so should I download the stock images? I'll be losing a lot of my data, I'll back it up but some of it is bound to get lost. Is it worth it?
Thanks in advance
You won't be able to update while rooted. Actually updating with a factory image is probably safer than taking an ota update. Personally, I think the update is worth it.
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hexr96 said:
Hello everyone,
Back in October, I had rooted my phone to install xposed etc. A little after that I received a notification for the stagefright update (i know that was a long time ago) and I ignored it (because of little time, I wanted to install cm13 but I never could find the time). Since marshmallow is a little more stable than lollipop, I would now like to shift to MM.
I distinctly remember trying to install the stagefright update (after rooting lollipop), and my phone went into a bootloop.
Two questions,
1. Does rooting not allow you to update your phone? Does it cause bootloop problems?
2. I want to stick to stock, so should I download the stock images? I'll be losing a lot of my data, I'll back it up but some of it is bound to get lost. Is it worth it?
Thanks in advance
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Your presumption that Marshmallow is more stable than Lollipop is... well... many people would argue that the opposite was true.
You should never take an update after rooting, especially if you have custom recovery installed... OTA's are designed strictly for purely stock, unmodified phones.
At this point flashing the factory images is preferred, you do this from a PC not the phone though. You could try to unroot (SuperSU has a full unroot option in it's settings), but the real key is to restore your stock recovery, there are threads here to show you how to do that.
acejavelin said:
Your presumption that Marshmallow is more stable than Lollipop is... well... many people would argue that the opposite was true.
You should never take an update after rooting, especially if you have custom recovery installed... OTA's are designed strictly for purely stock, unmodified phones.
At this point flashing the factory images is preferred, you do this from a PC not the phone though. You could try to unroot (SuperSU has a full unroot option in it's settings), but the real key is to restore your stock recovery, there are threads here to show you how to do that.
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Many would also argue that it is more stable.
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Tel864 said:
Many would also argue that it is more stable.
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Perhaps stability is not the real argument here... both are stable, as are most production ROMs, I have been using Marshmallow since early December and never had any real problems. But there are pros and cons to both and depending on your situation one may be better than the other, but I guess that wasn't really the point of this thread so I will say I half agree with your statement.
I would also have to relock the bootloader, correct?
hexr96 said:
I would also have to relock the bootloader, correct?
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No
hexr96 said:
I would also have to relock the bootloader, correct?
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Nope, in fact, you can't relock the bootloader even if you want to. The bootloader lock state is not relevant to taking an OTA.
Thank you everyone

Easier Root Method?

I know root is achieved with a tot file for the G5 but will there be a one script method like for the g3? I haven't rooted my phone yet because I dont want to risk bricking my phone.
RicardoSal24 said:
I know root is achieved with a tot file for the G5 but will there be a one script method like for the g3? I haven't rooted my phone yet because I dont want to risk bricking my phone.
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there won't be a script for this as there are no instructions for the bootloader to flash any file. The reason they are using the TOT method is because we have no other way to write to the device. ADB is enabled but the actual command needed to copy everything over was left out.
fatapia said:
there won't be a script for this as there are no instructions for the bootloader to flash any file. The reason they are using the TOT method is because we have no other way to write to the device. ADB is enabled but the actual command needed to copy everything over was left out.
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Is rooting the phone ASAP worth the time or is it best to wait awhile after a software update?
RicardoSal24 said:
Is rooting the phone ASAP worth the time or is it best to wait awhile after a software update?
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if you haven't taken that 10d update I would just root now. Not sure if you've seen the thread where they are discussing the possibility of using the TOT method with the new 10d file, but once you update it trips something (qfuse I believe, Autoprime is the one who discovered this AFAIK) that prevents you from using the existing TOT on the forum and from downgrading.
once you root, you can update to 10d and as long as you flash supersu you will still have access to TWRP and root on the latest update. I recommend waiting updating to 10d even after rooting until they iron out all the issues though.
edit: have you done the OEM unlock through dev options yet? it will wipe your phone in the process FYI so make sure you have everything backed up.
Come on. It wasn't that hard to root it. Just follow the directions. Easy!
How do I know if I have the 10d update? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, then thought I had a quality control issue with the pain on the frame. So I flashed stock and locked the bootloader to prepare for a warranty exchange. Turns out the paint wasn't bubbling. It was the protective plastic adhesive I had never taken off. I'm stupid, I know, lol. Now I want to root again but I don't know about the 10d update.
rebelde80 said:
How do I know if I have the 10d update? I unlocked the bootloader, rooted it, then thought I had a quality control issue with the pain on the frame. So I flashed stock and locked the bootloader to prepare for a warranty exchange. Turns out the paint wasn't bubbling. It was the protective plastic adhesive I had never taken off. I'm stupid, I know, lol. Now I want to root again but I don't know about the 10d update.
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about phone/software version
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if you haven't taken that 10d update I would just root now. Not sure if you've seen the thread where they are discussing the possibility of using the TOT method with the new 10d file, but once you update it trips something (qfuse I believe, Autoprime is the one who discovered this AFAIK) that prevents you from using the existing TOT on the forum and from downgrading.
once you root, you can update to 10d and as long as you flash supersu you will still have access to TWRP and root on the latest update. I recommend waiting updating to 10d even after rooting until they iron out all the issues though.
edit: have you done the OEM unlock through dev options yet? it will wipe your phone in the process FYI so make sure you have everything backed up.
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I've had an understanding that updating android versions while being rooted may cause the phone to be bricked
i have software version 10a that is rootable right thats not 10d or are they similar.
RicardoSal24 said:
I've had an understanding that updating android versions while being rooted may cause the phone to be bricked
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that may have been true at some point especially with OEM FW, but as far as custom I rooted then updated for my GS4, G3, and v10. Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will for anyone else. I had the variants that once they were rooted you held on to it like dear life
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that may have been true at some point especially with OEM FW, but as far as custom I rooted then updated for my GS4, G3, and v10. Just because it worked for me doesn't mean it will for anyone else. I had the variants that once they were rooted you held on to it like dear life
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So then its best to wait until something is done with the update?
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So then its best to wait until something is done with the update?
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from what I've read the method is established now and there is "zero" risk as long as you follow the instructions, I haven't updated because I haven't experienced the issues others are having
fatapia said:
from what I've read the method is established now and there is "zero" risk as long as you follow the instructions, I haven't updated because I haven't experienced the issues others are having
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I think I'll play it safe until its 100% or wait for a new android version with a root method
RicardoSal24 said:
I think I'll play it safe until its 100% or wait for a new android version with a root method
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it's never 100% safe, hence the quotation marks. there's always a risk of something going wrong such as a power outage, or bad file download. As long as you verify the md5sum of your files you shouldn't have a problem with rooting, the only problems I've seen are people trying to use the wrong files on their device. up to you tho man, good luck with which ever you decide
This root method (compared to my old EVO 3D which needed juopunutbear and a wire)....ez pz.
lordodin912 said:
This root method (compared to my old EVO 3D which needed juopunutbear and a wire)....ez pz.
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That sounds like fun, if you ask me. What was the wire for, if you don't mind me asking? Bypassing a fuse?
xanderin said:
That sounds like fun, if you ask me. What was the wire for, if you don't mind me asking? Bypassing a fuse?
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It was needed for s-off, so not tech for root (if i remember correctly) but for being able to flash custom roms and such. Theres youtube videos about it.

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