Hello,
at home I wanted to show my family a movie made with my new Sony a6000 (NEX-6 like) camera.
I copied the movie on to the micro-sd of my lg gpad 8.3 (running cm11) and started to play the video file using mx player. The video started just fine, but right after about 2 seconds the viedeo stopped and just the audio continues.
Jumping to any other time gives me the same result.
Even after recoding the video the playback had problems, too.
I use hardware decoding:
I filmed in:
50fps (Europe)
1920x1080
AVCHD (Sony)
recoded into: .mp4 (H265 @ 3000bits)
Maybe you guys could find a solution.
Here is a link to a short (22MB) video file that has the same problem:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1ut3izih3mcgkm/20140706132825.MTS
@cybercrash
I have faced some frame freeze very rarely on HW mode. In HW+ decoder I have noticed some frame distortion on the beginning of the playback. I think it's because of Higher frame rate.
Have you tried on SW mode?
SW decoder uses mxplayer's internal ffmpeg library. It's works fine for me without any problem.
ktsamy said:
@cybercrash
I have faced some frame freeze very rarely on HW mode. In HW+ decoder I have noticed some frame distortion on the beginning of the playback. I think it's because of Higher frame rate.
Have you tried on SW mode?
SW decoder uses mxplayer's internal ffmpeg library. It's works fine for me without any problem.
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Hello,
thanks for your feedback.
I've just tried without HW+ and it works...kind of.
The video is played all the way, but at a much lower framerate. The video seems to stutter.
Which device you are using?
SW decoder uses CPU to decode. It need more power to run. When it's not enough the frame will fall behind audio. To avoid audio video sync frame will be dropped.
ktsamy said:
Which device you are using?
SW decoder uses CPU to decode. It need more power to run. When it's not enough the frame will fall behind audio. To avoid audio video sync frame will be dropped.
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I use the LG Gpad 8.3 with the CyanogenMod 11 Android 4.4.4
Snapdragon 600 CPU
Qualcomm Adreno 320 GPU
2GB of RAM
To me this seems powerful enough, or am I wrong?
cybercrash said:
I use the LG Gpad 8.3 with the CyanogenMod 11 Android 4.4.4
Snapdragon 600 CPU
Qualcomm Adreno 320 GPU
2GB of RAM
To me this seems powerful enough, or am I wrong?
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Have you tried in SW mode?
ktsamy said:
Have you tried in SW mode?
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I've just tried without HW+ and it works...kind of.
The video is played all the way, but at a much lower framerate. The video seems to stutter.
@cybercrash
It depends upon the hardware.
I have tried the same video on my another device with 1 GB ram & MTK 6589 @ 1.2 GHz quad core. In HW decoder mode video plays well. But, in SW decoder I can see the effect like low frame rate. In HW mode it uses native hardware decoders. That's why it's play well. In SW decoder CPU will be used for decoding. MT6589 @ 1.2GHz Quad core is not enough to decode. That's why it's fall behinds.
Where as In my first test S5 has exynos 5 octa core processor, which has more power & working well.
If you still have any problem kindly run mx log collector after playback & post the logs here. So, the developer can look at your problem.
Can you tell me how I can save this log?
cybercrash said:
Hello,
at home I wanted to show my family a movie made with my new Sony a6000 (NEX-6 like) camera.
I copied the movie on to the micro-sd of my lg gpad 8.3 (running cm11) and started to play the video file using mx player. The video started just fine, but right after about 2 seconds the viedeo stopped and just the audio continues.
Jumping to any other time gives me the same result.
Even after recoding the video the playback had problems, too.
I use hardware decoding:
I filmed in:
50fps (Europe)
1920x1080
AVCHD (Sony)
recoded into: .mp4 (H265 @ 3000bits)
Maybe you guys could find a solution.
Here is a link to a short (22MB) video file that has the same problem:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1ut3izih3mcgkm/20140706132825.MTS
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I tested your video on my Nexus 5. It suffers lags with sw decoder but not with hw+ decoder.
Are you sure there is lags even with hw+ decoder?
If so, check following settings;
1) Turn off subtitle in the subtitle selection window. (Click speech balloon button on the right upper side of the screen)
2) Turn off software audio in the audio track selection windows.
bleu8888 said:
I tested your video on my Nexus 5. It suffers lags with sw decoder but not with hw+ decoder.
Are you sure there is lags even with hw+ decoder?
If so, check following settings;
1) Turn off subtitle in the subtitle selection window. (Click speech balloon button on the right upper side of the screen)
2) Turn off software audio in the audio track selection windows.
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Did all that. Still stuck video.
My problem is lag during SW decoder and a video stop (paused) video while audio is still going.
HW decoder gives me an error message:"This video can not decoded using HW...". Then it switches back to HW+ and after 0,5-1sec the video stops/lags again.
Same problem with VLC.
I guess 50fps is too much.
I just tried that sample with a snapdragon 400 SoC (xperia m2) and for me it plays fine with h/w+. No stuttering/hang, no a/v desync. S/w mode is stuttering though.
Crim Soukyuu said:
I just tried that sample with a snapdragon 400 SoC (xperia m2) and for me it plays fine with h/w+. No stuttering/hang, no a/v desync. S/w mode is stuttering though.
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This looks like CPU computing power limit. Which means CPU is not fast enough to play this video.
Typically 1080p 50fps video is too heavy to decode with SW decoder in current mobile CPUs.
Crim Soukyuu said:
I just tried that sample with a snapdragon 400 SoC (xperia m2) and for me it plays fine with h/w+. No stuttering/hang, no a/v desync. S/w mode is stuttering though.
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Your video is 1080p mpeg4/h264. Most of the modern device can natively play 1080p @50fps. So, I think your device can play the video in HW mode. There might be a problem with your custom rom.
Can you post the log?
It will be helpful to identify the problem.
(You can easily collect the log either by Menu> Help > Report bug or by running the seperate mx log collecter app after playing the file. As of now there is no way to save it. When it asks save the log in your mail. Then you can easily download & attach here)
bleu8888 said:
This looks like CPU computing power limit. Which means CPU is not fast enough to play this video.
Typically 1080p 50fps video is too heavy to decode with SW decoder in current mobile CPUs.
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ktsamy said:
Your video is 1080p mpeg4/h264. Most of the modern device can natively play 1080p @50fps. So, I think your device can play the video in HW mode. There might be a problem with your custom rom.
Can you post the log?
It will be helpful to identify the problem.
(You can easily collect the log either by Menu> Help > Report bug or by running the seperate mx log collecter app after playing the file. As of now there is no way to save it. When it asks save the log in your mail. Then you can easily download & attach here)
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What I was meaning to say is that if my snapdragon 400 can play it with h/w+ (plus downscaling it to my 960 x 540 resolution), then @cybercrash's snapdragon 600 should be easily able to play it back at the native 1920x1200 resolution. I prefer to use the h/w+ decoder anyway, so I'm not worried about my CPU not being strong enough to decode it in s/w mode.
@Crim Soukyuu
I have wrongly quoted you instead of original poster
@cybercrash
Your video is 1080p mpeg4/h264. Most of the modern device can natively play 1080p @50fps. So, I think your device can play the video in HW mode. There might be a problem with your custom rom (CM11) which is leading to problem.
Can you post the log?
It will be helpful to identify the problem.
(You can easily collect the log either by Menu> Help > Report bug or by running the seperate mx log collecter app after playing the file. As of now there is no way to save it. When it asks save the log in your mail. Then you can easily download & attach here)
Thanks for all your help and suggestions.
I've got the solution. It was a fault in the cm11 version.
After updating today to the latest nightly the video plays smoothly using HW+. No framerat dropping or stuck video.
I was just about to go back to the original LG firmware.
Right after it worked just fine a mxplayer update came out and after installing it the video hangs again.
cybercrash said:
Right after it worked just fine a mxplayer update came out and after installing it the video hangs again.
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If you are still using CM11 try again after switching to LG stock rom...
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Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
Night.Lurker said:
Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
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VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
VP9 on KitKat+
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
ktsamy said:
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
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CDB-Man said:
VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
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I see... So the point is the problem because most devices don't have VP9 hardware accelaration yet, especially for 1080p VP9...
Well... I've tried using SW speed up trick, it didn't much help...
Yeah...maybe the best option is to reencode the video to H264...or download 720p version..., cause the 720p VP9 can be played perfectly fine.
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
Btw thanks for your answer bro
gurupanguji said:
Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
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As I said before, I'm trying to play 1080p VP9 video (that I've downloaded from youtube using IDM on computer) on my Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, & LG G2 using MX Player.
But when I playing it, the video is laggy on all devices...
Surely you can streaming it using youtube app & chrome android and it plays well till the end cause the available quality option in those apps is up to 720p (the 1080p quality option is hidden on those apps so I can't select it to test if it plays well or not).
Night.Lurker said:
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
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That would be something you would have to ask the ffmpeg team to do, since MX uses their codecs. Unless the MX dev has a magic trick up his sleeve, I don't think there's much else MX can do to further improve SW playback performance for a video that exceeds the CPU's capabilities...
Likewise, on a hardware acceleration, it's limited by the hardwaree put in place by the manufacturer... so this aspect would need a new device.
Hi, i bumping this thread because i encountered the issue on some youtube vids too, but it's mostly playing fine, i think that with a few updates it will be good my phone is getting hot fast though.. (oneplus one)
VP9 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNfZuIA1GQ : fine
VP9 1080p with a lot of "motion" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGyZY4HNumw a bit laggy
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
ktsamy said:
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
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Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
coc014 said:
Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
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The chance of that happening, I can't see to be high. The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
CDB-Man said:
The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
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Lolno, it's just that industry is not interested in VP9. Even if they don't have to pay royalties they still have to develop asics (and h/w engineers are saying that it's not h/w friendly) and include them into the chip. It still costs a lot.
And what is the point of supporting vp9? It's an ugly google toy that they're ready to abandon (say hello to vp10 in 2015).
Ah yes, ASICs. I don't think manufacturers would be very happy at making more dies for new ICs. They already aren't happy with being forced to support Hi10p in H.265.
Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
vivan000 said:
Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
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Well, this sucks. Looks like we'll be waiting another generation... Where did you find that support chart?
Edit: We should move this discussion to the 10-bit thread. I'm going to quote you over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...layer-10-bit-video-discussion-t2725241/page12
abput supporting vp9 1080p and undeleting files in mx player p higher andrpid version
first of all:
"Most probably you’re on Android marshmallow 6.0 API. If you’re trying to delete a video that is located on the external storage then its not possible due to some bug in the file system and mx player.
If you’re on the internal storage then MX player has only read only rights on the directory on which you’re currently on."
or just delete on your internal system file manager application.
Second answer about playng videos vp9
becayse you can't play vp9 if you download youtube videos with IDM (internet download manager)
because it is bull**** and its newer versions used idmmkvlib.01 codec.so when downloadimg it not only download andit convert into ist bull**** special format.so won't play withx pr others.try another downloader or manual download yt videos i recomend.
Hi KTSamy,
I installed latest player and ARMv7 NEON codecs as it was advised by the player. However, it still not works properly.
I use a file manager capable to connect to my SMB shares and I initiate the playback from there. I tried to use HW+ decoder but I got a message stating that it is not supported. Using the recommended settings for HW decoder (software audio) I am still missing the sound. It worth to notice that audio channel selection contains 6 entries with some strange characters in them when in reality there are only two audio channels. As I found, others maybe some built-in subtitles, but there is nothing to do for them among audio channels. In this situation playback of a HD video is smooth enough, but there is no sound.
Switching to S/W decoder during playback solves problems with sound, and audio channel list shows the correct number and names of really existing audio channels. But in this mode even a SD video is painfully lagging. Impossible to see... If i switch back to HW decoder than sound remains and audio channel selection is also OK if the software audio decoding is selected. But the video still lagging. Not so much as in case of S/W decoding, but all my HD videos are rendered useless by that. Disabling sound in audio channel selection improves much the video playback, but again, without sound.
I think that the PAD2411 is a quite powerful device at least it should cope with HD video playback. Unfortunately it has numerous compatibility issues with almost all other video players due to the absence of its' own display. (Playback must go directly to the HDMI output.) MX Player is my unbeatable favorite and I use it on all my other devices without any problem. Do you have any idea how could I optimize the playback? Maybe the codec or the app should be adapted?
Thansk in advance!
Bithajcsar
bithajcsar said:
Hi KTSamy,
I installed latest player and ARMv7 NEON codecs as it was advised by the player. However, it still not works properly.
I use a file manager capable to connect to my SMB shares and I initiate the playback from there. I tried to use HW+ decoder but I got a message stating that it is not supported. Using the recommended settings for HW decoder (software audio) I am still missing the sound. It worth to notice that audio channel selection contains 6 entries with some strange characters in them when in reality there are only two audio channels. As I found, others maybe some built-in subtitles, but there is nothing to do for them among audio channels. In this situation playback of a HD video is smooth enough, but there is no sound.
Switching to S/W decoder during playback solves problems with sound, and audio channel list shows the correct number and names of really existing audio channels. But in this mode even a SD video is painfully lagging. Impossible to see... If i switch back to HW decoder than sound remains and audio channel selection is also OK if the software audio decoding is selected. But the video still lagging. Not so much as in case of S/W decoding, but all my HD videos are rendered useless by that. Disabling sound in audio channel selection improves much the video playback, but again, without sound.
I think that the PAD2411 is a quite powerful device at least it should cope with HD video playback. Unfortunately it has numerous compatibility issues with almost all other video players due to the absence of its' own display. (Playback must go directly to the HDMI output.) MX Player is my unbeatable favorite and I use it on all my other devices without any problem. Do you have any idea how could I optimize the playback? Maybe the codec or the app should be adapted?
Thansk in advance!
Bithajcsar
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Regarding audio issue on H/W decoder with S/W audio, Kindly collect the log immediately after playing the video & Upload here.
Regarding S/W issue, Your processor (Cortex A9 Dual Core) is a very old processor & not a powerful one. So, it can't handle many videos smoothly.
Note:
Kindly create a separate threads for your issues.
General issues are not to be reported on Custom Codec thread
ktsamy said:
Regarding audio issue on H/W decoder with S/W audio, Kindly collect the log immediately after playing the video & Upload here.
Regarding S/W issue, Your processor (Cortex A9 Dual Core) is a very old processor & not a powerful one. So, it can't handle many videos smoothly.
Note:
Kindly create a separate threads for your issues.
General issues are not to be reported on Custom Codec thread
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Thanks for your attention to my problem!
The log is attached.
bithajcsar said:
Thanks for your attention to my problem!
The log is attached.
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Hi KTSamy,
It has been quite some time ago when I uploaded the log you requested. Were you able to review that? Did the log provide the necessary information? Should I do anything else to move things forward?
Regards,
Bithajcsar
bithajcsar said:
Hi KTSamy,
It has been quite some time ago when I uploaded the log you requested. Were you able to review that? Did the log provide the necessary information? Should I do anything else to move things forward?
Regards,
Bithajcsar
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I was busy with my work. So, I was not much active in XDA from the last few weeks.
Actually, In network playback MX Player won't use software audio with H/W decoder to avoid authentication issue.
If you H/W+ is working on your device, you can use it as alternative.
If you still wish to use H/W decoder, if Switch to H/W+ & Revert Back to H/W decoder it will bring the audio back.
According to the information provided by the developer, MXPlayer major upgrade v1.8 will resolve network authentication issues.
I want to play 720p HEVC H.265 in MX Player. Does it depends on mobile? Do I need to download any codecs? What are the minimum requirements to play HEVC in MX Player smoothly? Pleasy do reply.
awesomealpesh said:
I want to play 720p HEVC H.265 in MX Player. Does it depends on mobile? Do I need to download any codecs? What are the minimum requirements to play HEVC in MX Player smoothly? Pleasy do reply.
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Yes, it's completely depends on device.
If the device natively supports HEVC, you can play HEVC in HW decoder. Else, SW decoder is the only option. But, it needs very powerful processor.
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Hevc
If I want to play it in SW, then how much powerful processor is needed?
It will be a great help if you mention minimum requirements for PC too.
Thanks
awesomealpesh said:
If I want to play it in SW, then how much powerful processor is needed?
It will be a great help if you mention minimum requirements for PC too.
Thanks
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It depends upon the quality of the video.
Just try yourself. If SW is laggy, your processor is not powerful enough to play that video.
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awesomealpesh said:
If I want to play it in SW, then how much powerful processor is needed?
It will be a great help if you mention minimum requirements for PC too.
Thanks
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Any Device, with CyanogenOS 12.1 / CyanogenMod 12.1 Can play smoothly in HW for 720p hevc/x265 8bit (10bit, not sure) @ 25fps.
With the same codec & resolution above 25fps, You need a device Display of 720p Resolution (Must).
For PC (Windows Platform Only), The Best of The Best - K-Lite Mega Codec Pack ( Much better than VLC ) URL :-
http://codecguide.com
Deblocking feature would be great for that. We can disable deblocking for highly compressed videos to achieve a better decoding.
** A - R ** said:
Any Device, with CyanogenOS 12.1 / CyanogenMod 12.1 Can play smoothly in HW for 720p hevc/x265 8bit (10bit, not sure) @ 25fps.
With the same codec & resolution above 25fps, You need a device Display of 720p Resolution (Must).
For PC (Windows Platform Only), The Best of The Best - K-Lite Mega Codec Pack ( Much better than VLC ) URL :-
http://codecguide.com
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You are completely wrong...!
Eventhough rom configuration also plays a vital role in multimedia performance, it's mainly depends on the processor. If I am not wrong to implement HW acceleration for HEVC the chipset must support HEVC.
In device with unsupported chipset can't be HW accelerated even when you use Cyanogen(Mod/OS) 12.1.
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Hi i have wonderings, concerning HEVC on phones.
I can play my H265 videos on my phones enough smoothly (i used to have a Honor 6, and now it's a Oneplus X) - tryed VLC or MX Player Pro (+AC3&DTS Codec).
Yet i can't move inside any video. if i try to, the video always restart from the beginning. It's really annoying to me.
Concerning the HiSilicon processor, i thought there was some incompatibility, but with the OPX's SD801, everything should be fine, shouldn't it ?
Thanks in advance for your help
Lord_Babass said:
Hi i have wonderings, concerning HEVC on phones.
I can play my H265 videos on my phones enough smoothly (i used to have a Honor 6, and now it's a Oneplus X) - tryed VLC or MX Player Pro (+AC3&DTS Codec).
Yet i can't move inside any video. if i try to, the video always restart from the beginning. It's really annoying to me.
Concerning the HiSilicon processor, i thought there was some incompatibility, but with the OPX's SD801, everything should be fine, shouldn't it ?
Thanks in advance for your help
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SW or HW decoder? Also, sounds like your video may have container wrapping issues, if you cannot seek.
OnePlus One should have more than enough power.
I've tried sw,hw, and hw+.
The behavior keeps the same.
As i mostly watch downloaded mangas, i've tried different ones, from different groups, but always impossible to seek inside a video...
What i understand from you is that it is not normal, and not a known issue... Crap!
ktsamy said:
You are completely wrong...!
Eventhough rom configuration also plays a vital role in multimedia performance, it's mainly depends on the processor. If I am not wrong to implement HW acceleration for HEVC the chipset must support HEVC.
In device with unsupported chipset can't be HW accelerated even when you use Cyanogen(Mod/OS) 12.1.
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@ktsamy, I Just Forgot That.
Thanks Mate.
@CDB-Man do you think it is something you can reproduce/investigate? (in OPX we have SD801 version aa i think...)
i truly believe that very few people use H265 for now, so such problem may keep marginal.
i haven't mentioned that i have tried every video reader i found on google play, all behave the same.
Or maybe does it come from the manufacturer's implementation/drivers in its rom ? (what about SD801 with samsung's S5 phone?)
I haven't encountered any seek issues specific to HEVC; what I have seen before are videos not in a proper MKV or other container, and therefore you cannot seek it.
A raw .hevc video stream file, you may not be able to seek.
Hello all,
I am trying to make my new Philips TV play 4k HEVC videos but am having no luck with smooth playback.
MX Player seems to do the best job but stalls eventually. HW+ decoder kicks in to do the playback.
Short version of TV specs:
SoC Mediatek MT5596A
CPU ARM Cortex-A53
GPU ARM Mali-T860 MP2
Android 6
I collected MX player logs while the video was choppy and can send if required.
Can anyone tell me if my device is supported or am I wasting time on MX Player ?
Thanks
sexy_lady said:
Hello all,
I am trying to make my new Philips TV play 4k HEVC videos but am having no luck with smooth playback.
MX Player seems to do the best job but stalls eventually. HW+ decoder kicks in to do the playback.
Short version of TV specs:
SoC Mediatek MT5596A
CPU ARM Cortex-A53
GPU ARM Mali-T860 MP2
Android 6
I collected MX player logs while the video was choppy and can send if required.
Can anyone tell me if my device is supported or am I wasting time on MX Player ?
Thanks
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What about HW decoder?
HW & HW+ decoder basically uses system decoders which are built into the firmware.
If HW decoder doesn't work and HW+ lags, probably your system decoders couldn't decode the video at that particular encoding profile. Can you share the logs here? We may have to look at the logs in order to understand the issue better.
Thirumalai.K said:
What about HW decoder?
HW & HW+ decoder basically uses system decoders which are built into the firmware.
If HW decoder doesn't work and HW+ lags, probably your system decoders couldn't decode the video at that particular encoding profile. Can you share the logs here? We may have to look at the logs in order to understand the issue better.
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Hello and thanks,
The thing is that built-in TV video player does not work with x265 videos. I have tried VLC which performs terribly. I guess it uses SW decocoding and can't even play 1080p smoothly with x265 encoding.
Archos is really slick and works well with 1080p x265 but lags on 4K. The speed of 4K playback with Archos is the same as for MX Player with HW decoder. Only HW+ will play smoothly but it eventually stalls to a point of 1 frame per seconds as if some error is encountered (always at the same point in movie). Any attempt to rewind will kill 4K playback smoothness and menu operations often result in MX Player crashing.
Here is my report file
*h*t*t*p*s://1drv.ms/u/s!Av9g--Caxs7ogzkI5M_WUWgfOp3D
hi,
I have an Minix U9-H box (android 6.0) and when I play full HD streaming files from my ip tv provider using HW+ decoder, the video quality is poor. It's working fine with HW or SW decoder (The codec used by mx player is ARM V7 NEON).
I checked also in perfect player and when using HW+, it seems the player downgrade the video resolution to SD format.
Any clue ?
Chris
rusukof36 said:
hi,
I have an Minix U9-H box (android 6.0) and when I play full HD streaming files from my ip tv provider using HW+ decoder, the video quality is poor. It's working fine with HW or SW decoder (The codec used by mx player is ARM V7 NEON).
I checked also in perfect player and when using HW+, it seems the player downgrade the video resolution to SD format.
Any clue ?
Chris
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It should be a bug in the system decoder. In HW+, MX Player passes the frames to the system decoders to directly decode. Probably, the resolution of the decoded frame might be low. We have encountered a similar issue in the past especially when the stream is interlaced. If it's the root cause, then it has to be fixed on the firmware. You will notice similar issues with all major video player apps which makes use of similar technology.
rusukof36 said:
hi,
I have an Minix U9-H box (android 6.0) and when I play full HD streaming files from my ip tv provider using HW+ decoder, the video quality is poor. It's working fine with HW or SW decoder (The codec used by mx player is ARM V7 NEON).
I checked also in perfect player and when using HW+, it seems the player downgrade the video resolution to SD format.
Any clue ?
Chris
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HW and HW+ uses GPU for H.264 decoding. They performance much better from SW which uses CPU for decoding. HW can perform better than HW+ in most of the Cases, but there is a chance it does not work smoothly on many devices.
Same
Same problem. SW is better than HW and HW+. (Android tv 8.1 - Mibox 3s)
lighthousehn said:
Same problem. SW is better than HW and HW+. (Android tv 8.1 - Mibox 3s)
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It may happen when the Hardware Accelerated Decoders implemented on the device itself is buggy. Can you please contact us with screenshots of the playback on HW/HW+ and SW along with a bug reported collected from MX right after playing the file? It will help us to confirm the same.
There is no error, just low quality. HW and HW+ is same. SW is good.
The problem only occurs when viewing iptv (multicast - udp), watching the file on the hard disk is ok
lighthousehn said:
There is no error, just low quality. HW and HW+ is same. SW is good.
The problem only occurs when viewing iptv (multicast - udp), watching the file on the hard disk is ok
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It is one of the known issues on Xiaomi's TV boxes with Oreo and Nougat firmware. Based on our past investigation, it has been found that the hardware accelerated decoder's output resolution of the video frames is much lower than the actual frame size. As both HW and HW+ relies on the decoders shipped with the device, you can notice the issues on both. Request you to contact the device manufacturer so that they can fix the same on their firmware.
If it is possible, kindly share a link with us on PM or at [email protected] so that we can also escalate the same from our end.
I also tried on my phone (Mi Mix 2s - Android 9, MIUI 10) and it gave same results.
multicast links on private network, so you can not access it: https://textuploader.com/dlohs/raw
lighthousehn said:
I also tried on my phone (Mi Mix 2s - Android 9, MIUI 10) and it gave same results.
multicast links on private network, so you can not access it: https://textuploader.com/dlohs/raw
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Can you please try any non-xiaomi device and check again? Can you also check whether it happens if you copy the stream to a file using FFmpeg? Without a sample clip or a link, we may not be able to seek the assistance of the Xiaomi team.
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Can you please try any non-xiaomi device and check again? Can you also check whether it happens if you copy the stream to a file using FFmpeg? Without a sample clip or a link, we may not be able to seek the assistance of the Xiaomi team.
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I don't have a non-xiaomi device. These are sample files. I saved them with VLC
http://www.mediafire.com/file/71cnwgwzsgw674b/test.ts/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/wjhcmec367uhwxr/test1.ts/file
Let me guess a bit: The format of the service provider is 1080i, this issue relates to the deinterlacing algorithm. With HW decoder, resolution halved.
maybe recode your video?