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video player optimized for honeycomb, or just tegra 2 optimized?

Hello guys at xda
This question may have been here before, and if it has here it is again.
Is there a video player that is optimized for honeycomb, or at least a player that take advantage of the tegra 2 cpu?
Otherwise i like to know if there is an video player that support dlna devices, so i can browse the dlna server directly from the video player app it selfs, sonthere is no need for a second app to do that.
Last thing, and i dont know if tisnis redicilus, but is there a player that support iso files an so on ?
Hope you can help le, and sry for my english !
Regards Fisken
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

moboplayer is tegra2 optimized now. though be warned, like all other tegra2 players, HD mkv files have issues playing.

http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
so which codec pack should we use, the NEON?
and what do i do with the .apk file?
sorry, i'm a noob
edit: nvm, took me 2 seconds on google...

Vplayer was updated for tegra or honeycomb I forget which, but it works pretty well for most file types on the eee pad.

stuntdouble said:
Vplayer was updated for tegra or honeycomb I forget which, but it works pretty well for most file types on the eee pad.
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Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...

dnaL0R said:
i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...
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As a workaround, if you have firmware update1 installed, it means you have splashtop. Run the file on your pc and stream it via the splashtop app to your tablet. Should be fairly smooth if you have a good wifi connection. Doesnt help if you are nowhere near your pc of course, but good if you want to watch it in bed or something. You can even switch your pc off remotely this way too.

yea, i gave splashtop a try just to see how it works and all, but it's not too useful for me... i'll wait 'til these media players get updated.

I ave tried rock player and mobie player but, they kinda work. Subtitles dont appear while the files plays

my vote goes for moboplayer
i used to use rockplayer, but too many FC's
I love how moboplayer saves where you last left off on multiple videos

Fisken said:
Is there a video player that is optimized for honeycomb, or at least a player that take advantage of the tegra 2 cpu?
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Just to be clear about this:
The Tegra2 CPU is a fairly standard dual core ARM v7 core, This is a fine mobile CPU but nothing special and it will _never_ be able to soft-decode HD main profile h.264 video.
However the SOC includes a general purpose GPU that also includes hardware to decode h.264 in an accelerated fashion. This _should_ be able to play 720p main profile and 1080p main with limitations. However the only way to use this acceleration is via the Nvidia OMX plugins that are part of the "StageFright" media system that Honeycomb uses. This system is not exposed to the NDK, and is only available via the MediaPlayer object in java. (It is also limited to baseline profile and under-performing compared to the froyo version for these libs)
The MediaPlayer object is what the default player uses, hence you either use something virtually identical to the default player (With all the limitations it has) or you decode 100% in software (on the CPU not the GPU) and thus can't play HD content due to a lack of horsepower.
Optimising a video player for the Tegra2 CPU will do very little (Like compiling for SSE or 3DNow), perhaps make it a few percent more efficient but nowhere near enough to play HD content.
dnaL0R said:
i've tried every notable media player out there, but i still haven't found one that plays my hd .mp4 file [1280x720 3000kbps @ 29fps] smoothly...
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What profile and level is your video file? (MP4Box will tell you if you don't know)

So, which is better? moboplayer or vplayer?

freeza said:
So, which is better? moboplayer or vplayer?
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moboplayer is free and much more popular based on download numbers and ratings

SilentMobius said:
Just to be clear about this:
The Tegra2 CPU is a fairly standard dual core ARM v7 core, This is a fine mobile CPU but nothing special and it will _never_ be able to soft-decode HD main profile h.264 video.
However the SOC includes a general purpose GPU that also includes hardware to decode h.264 in an accelerated fashion. This _should_ be able to play 720p main profile and 1080p main with limitations. However the only way to use this acceleration is via the Nvidia OMX plugins that are part of the "StageFright" media system that Honeycomb uses. This system is not exposed to the NDK, and is only available via the MediaPlayer object in java. (It is also limited to baseline profile and under-performing compared to the froyo version for these libs)
The MediaPlayer object is what the default player uses, hence you either use something virtually identical to the default player (With all the limitations it has) or you decode 100% in software (on the CPU not the GPU) and thus can't play HD content due to a lack of horsepower.
Optimising a video player for the Tegra2 CPU will do very little (Like compiling for SSE or 3DNow), perhaps make it a few percent more efficient but nowhere near enough to play HD content.
What profile and level is your video file? (MP4Box will tell you if you don't know)
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So...long story short...the GPU can handle 1080/720, but right now players aren't taking advantage of it because the required code/plugins aren't in the NDK. Right now all the players are forced to use software decoding which uses the weaker cpu.
So release the damn plugins!
I'm tired of stuttering video.

Sorry to revive oldish thread... does anyone know if DTS audio is not supported on the TF? I was trying out some sample mkv in 720p and 1080p to see how they looked/sounded. After the 3.1 update the 720p videos are smooth, but I am not getting any audio on the videos in mobo or rock or stock player. In Rockplayer I opened the video with software support instead of hardware and got audio, but mega choppy playback.
Any ideas?

Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
This means either fluid video and no audio in hardware mode, or choppy video and out of sync audio in software mode. Very disappointing actually but afraid there aren't any alternatives out there yet.
You'll have to transcode the audio to AAC but that means an extra step in the process. The original galaxy tab seems to play everything, but well... that's not really an option either.

newtybar said:
So...long story short...the GPU can handle 1080/720, but right now players aren't taking advantage of it because the required code/plugins aren't in the NDK. Right now all the players are forced to use software decoding which uses the weaker cpu.
So release the damn plugins!
I'm tired of stuttering video.
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No, that's not what I'm saying. The "plugins" are exposed using StageFright which is used by the standard MediaPlayer object which moboplayer (et al) can and does use but only for the normally supported codecs/containers. There will never be anything better than that.
Any app that "adds" either a container or a codec to Android will be doing it via pure CPU decode, that will _always_ be that case (for the foreseeable future).
That said, the 3.1 update has improved h.264 playback massively, I can play high profile 720p quite nicely now. But if you want MKV container support _and_ h.264 hardware accelerated decoding you'll have to get Google/ASUS to add the MKV container into StageFright at the platform level, no video player app will fix that. (Or wait until we get the platform source, there is already a Matroska container parser in the AOSP repo that could be ported to Honeycomb, hell Matroska parsing is needed for WebM playback and Honeycomb already does that)
dagrim1 said:
Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
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Additionally: AC3 is patent encumbered so it costs money to include even if the chip supports it

Honeycomb optimised video player
I have found MX Vidoe Player the best player to use on my Vega running HC 3.2 Build 9n Update 2. Unlike Mobo Player the screen image can be zoomed to any size to fill the screen, not just stretch the image.
Do not know about HD, but depending on your video file resolution the image quality is great.

Dice
Sent from my TBolt using my f***king thumbs...

dagrim1 said:
Unfortunately AC3 audio (used in most rips) is not supported by the TF chipset (and the tegra2 chip in general).
This means either fluid video and no audio in hardware mode, or choppy video and out of sync audio in software mode. Very disappointing actually but afraid there aren't any alternatives out there yet.
You'll have to transcode the audio to AAC but that means an extra step in the process. The original galaxy tab seems to play everything, but well... that's not really an option either.
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False!!!
Mxplayer suports AC3 and is optimized for honeycomb
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : ac-3
Duration : 30mn 8s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 96.6 MiB (23%)
Title : Imported with GPAC 0.4.6-DEV (internal rev. 5)
Encoded date : UTC 2011-01-12 17:33:12
Tagged date : UTC 2011-01-12 17:33:13
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I can play the video smoothly and I have no problems with audio

MxPlayer has problems playing the Sony a6000 (new NEX line) videos.

Hello,
at home I wanted to show my family a movie made with my new Sony a6000 (NEX-6 like) camera.
I copied the movie on to the micro-sd of my lg gpad 8.3 (running cm11) and started to play the video file using mx player. The video started just fine, but right after about 2 seconds the viedeo stopped and just the audio continues.
Jumping to any other time gives me the same result.
Even after recoding the video the playback had problems, too.
I use hardware decoding:
I filmed in:
50fps (Europe)
1920x1080
AVCHD (Sony)
recoded into: .mp4 (H265 @ 3000bits)
Maybe you guys could find a solution.
Here is a link to a short (22MB) video file that has the same problem:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1ut3izih3mcgkm/20140706132825.MTS

@cybercrash
I have faced some frame freeze very rarely on HW mode. In HW+ decoder I have noticed some frame distortion on the beginning of the playback. I think it's because of Higher frame rate.
Have you tried on SW mode?
SW decoder uses mxplayer's internal ffmpeg library. It's works fine for me without any problem.

ktsamy said:
@cybercrash
I have faced some frame freeze very rarely on HW mode. In HW+ decoder I have noticed some frame distortion on the beginning of the playback. I think it's because of Higher frame rate.
Have you tried on SW mode?
SW decoder uses mxplayer's internal ffmpeg library. It's works fine for me without any problem.
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Hello,
thanks for your feedback.
I've just tried without HW+ and it works...kind of.
The video is played all the way, but at a much lower framerate. The video seems to stutter.

Which device you are using?
SW decoder uses CPU to decode. It need more power to run. When it's not enough the frame will fall behind audio. To avoid audio video sync frame will be dropped.

ktsamy said:
Which device you are using?
SW decoder uses CPU to decode. It need more power to run. When it's not enough the frame will fall behind audio. To avoid audio video sync frame will be dropped.
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I use the LG Gpad 8.3 with the CyanogenMod 11 Android 4.4.4
Snapdragon 600 CPU
Qualcomm Adreno 320 GPU
2GB of RAM
To me this seems powerful enough, or am I wrong?

cybercrash said:
I use the LG Gpad 8.3 with the CyanogenMod 11 Android 4.4.4
Snapdragon 600 CPU
Qualcomm Adreno 320 GPU
2GB of RAM
To me this seems powerful enough, or am I wrong?
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Have you tried in SW mode?

ktsamy said:
Have you tried in SW mode?
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I've just tried without HW+ and it works...kind of.
The video is played all the way, but at a much lower framerate. The video seems to stutter.

@cybercrash
It depends upon the hardware.
I have tried the same video on my another device with 1 GB ram & MTK 6589 @ 1.2 GHz quad core. In HW decoder mode video plays well. But, in SW decoder I can see the effect like low frame rate. In HW mode it uses native hardware decoders. That's why it's play well. In SW decoder CPU will be used for decoding. MT6589 @ 1.2GHz Quad core is not enough to decode. That's why it's fall behinds.
Where as In my first test S5 has exynos 5 octa core processor, which has more power & working well.
If you still have any problem kindly run mx log collector after playback & post the logs here. So, the developer can look at your problem.

Can you tell me how I can save this log?

cybercrash said:
Hello,
at home I wanted to show my family a movie made with my new Sony a6000 (NEX-6 like) camera.
I copied the movie on to the micro-sd of my lg gpad 8.3 (running cm11) and started to play the video file using mx player. The video started just fine, but right after about 2 seconds the viedeo stopped and just the audio continues.
Jumping to any other time gives me the same result.
Even after recoding the video the playback had problems, too.
I use hardware decoding:
I filmed in:
50fps (Europe)
1920x1080
AVCHD (Sony)
recoded into: .mp4 (H265 @ 3000bits)
Maybe you guys could find a solution.
Here is a link to a short (22MB) video file that has the same problem:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1ut3izih3mcgkm/20140706132825.MTS
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I tested your video on my Nexus 5. It suffers lags with sw decoder but not with hw+ decoder.
Are you sure there is lags even with hw+ decoder?
If so, check following settings;
1) Turn off subtitle in the subtitle selection window. (Click speech balloon button on the right upper side of the screen)
2) Turn off software audio in the audio track selection windows.

bleu8888 said:
I tested your video on my Nexus 5. It suffers lags with sw decoder but not with hw+ decoder.
Are you sure there is lags even with hw+ decoder?
If so, check following settings;
1) Turn off subtitle in the subtitle selection window. (Click speech balloon button on the right upper side of the screen)
2) Turn off software audio in the audio track selection windows.
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Did all that. Still stuck video.
My problem is lag during SW decoder and a video stop (paused) video while audio is still going.
HW decoder gives me an error message:"This video can not decoded using HW...". Then it switches back to HW+ and after 0,5-1sec the video stops/lags again.
Same problem with VLC.
I guess 50fps is too much.

I just tried that sample with a snapdragon 400 SoC (xperia m2) and for me it plays fine with h/w+. No stuttering/hang, no a/v desync. S/w mode is stuttering though.

Crim Soukyuu said:
I just tried that sample with a snapdragon 400 SoC (xperia m2) and for me it plays fine with h/w+. No stuttering/hang, no a/v desync. S/w mode is stuttering though.
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This looks like CPU computing power limit. Which means CPU is not fast enough to play this video.
Typically 1080p 50fps video is too heavy to decode with SW decoder in current mobile CPUs.

Crim Soukyuu said:
I just tried that sample with a snapdragon 400 SoC (xperia m2) and for me it plays fine with h/w+. No stuttering/hang, no a/v desync. S/w mode is stuttering though.
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Your video is 1080p mpeg4/h264. Most of the modern device can natively play 1080p @50fps. So, I think your device can play the video in HW mode. There might be a problem with your custom rom.
Can you post the log?
It will be helpful to identify the problem.
(You can easily collect the log either by Menu> Help > Report bug or by running the seperate mx log collecter app after playing the file. As of now there is no way to save it. When it asks save the log in your mail. Then you can easily download & attach here)

bleu8888 said:
This looks like CPU computing power limit. Which means CPU is not fast enough to play this video.
Typically 1080p 50fps video is too heavy to decode with SW decoder in current mobile CPUs.
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ktsamy said:
Your video is 1080p mpeg4/h264. Most of the modern device can natively play 1080p @50fps. So, I think your device can play the video in HW mode. There might be a problem with your custom rom.
Can you post the log?
It will be helpful to identify the problem.
(You can easily collect the log either by Menu> Help > Report bug or by running the seperate mx log collecter app after playing the file. As of now there is no way to save it. When it asks save the log in your mail. Then you can easily download & attach here)
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What I was meaning to say is that if my snapdragon 400 can play it with h/w+ (plus downscaling it to my 960 x 540 resolution), then @cybercrash's snapdragon 600 should be easily able to play it back at the native 1920x1200 resolution. I prefer to use the h/w+ decoder anyway, so I'm not worried about my CPU not being strong enough to decode it in s/w mode.

@Crim Soukyuu
I have wrongly quoted you instead of original poster
@cybercrash
Your video is 1080p mpeg4/h264. Most of the modern device can natively play 1080p @50fps. So, I think your device can play the video in HW mode. There might be a problem with your custom rom (CM11) which is leading to problem.
Can you post the log?
It will be helpful to identify the problem.
(You can easily collect the log either by Menu> Help > Report bug or by running the seperate mx log collecter app after playing the file. As of now there is no way to save it. When it asks save the log in your mail. Then you can easily download & attach here)

Thanks for all your help and suggestions.
I've got the solution. It was a fault in the cm11 version.
After updating today to the latest nightly the video plays smoothly using HW+. No framerat dropping or stuck video.
I was just about to go back to the original LG firmware.

Right after it worked just fine a mxplayer update came out and after installing it the video hangs again.

cybercrash said:
Right after it worked just fine a mxplayer update came out and after installing it the video hangs again.
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If you are still using CM11 try again after switching to LG stock rom...

[Q] How can I Speed up S/W decoding on LOW-END Device

As the title "How can I Speed up S/W decoding on LOW-END Device"
I'm using HTC Desire 200 ( 1 GHz Single Core Processor, 512MB(414 actually) RAM)
I want play some 720p video on my phone, tried with few TWEAKS(V6 SuperCharger, Modified Build.prop)
the Video and Audio almost not synced all the time when play with MX player (But I can't find a better player for Android)
Please Help... and sorry for my bad English

This is a hardware issue, your phone doesnt have enough power to play these kind of videos.
Maybe if you reduce video bitrate, it will be playable.

Your only real option, is to reencode the video to a lower bitrate, and/or to a format that's hardware supported by your device. Handbrake is an easy to use reencoder.
Looking at GSMarena http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_200-5536.php it seems your phone should be able to play H.264/AVC format.

dicks93277 said:
As the title "How can I Speed up S/W decoding on LOW-END Device"
I'm using HTC Desire 200 ( 1 GHz Single Core Processor, 512MB(414 actually) RAM)
I want play some 720p video on my phone, tried with few TWEAKS(V6 SuperCharger, Modified Build.prop)
the Video and Audio almost not synced all the time when play with MX player (But I can't find a better player for Android)
Please Help... and sorry for my bad English
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First look how much cpu and RAM is consumed. You can use apps like lucky patcher or disable service to dissable unwanted running service, do not move mx player in sdcard, always keep some free space in internal memory, exit apps like viber.... while playing 720p videos in sw mode, do not create lot of widgets. I have same amount of hw in my ray and I can play any types of 720p videos smoothly with sw decoder. MX player uses internal modules so if mx can't play means other apps too cant

sumantaadk said:
First look how much cpu and RAM is consumed. You can use apps like lucky patcher or disable service to dissable unwanted running service, do not move mx player in sdcard, always keep some free space in internal memory, exit apps like viber.... while playing 720p videos in sw mode, do not create lot of widgets. I have same amount of hw in my ray and I can play any types of 720p videos smoothly with sw decoder. MX player uses internal modules so if mx can't play means other apps too cant
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I guess I had done this, using greenify to close and make sure no unwanted and unnessccery apps running in background, checked my cpu is running on top speed (overclocking isn't available on my device for now), but still laggy (video and audio not synced)

dicks93277 said:
I guess I had done this, using greenify to close and make sure no unwanted and unnessccery apps running in background, checked my cpu is running on top speed (overclocking isn't available on my device for now), but still laggy (video and audio not synced)
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It's because your cpu can't handle the load.
S/W mode will ffmpeg library & entire decoding will be done on CPU. So, there is no way to fix.
Goto Settings 》 Decoder & enable speed up tricks. It may affect video quality. But, may reduce the lagging.

Using SW, even with speedup tricks, will still drain your battery as your CPU's running at 100%. Reencoding to a HW supported format as I previously suggested, will increase performance and reduce battery drain.

CDB-Man said:
Using SW, even with speedup tricks, will still drain your battery as your CPU's running at 100%. Reencoding to a HW supported format as I previously suggested, will increase performance and reduce battery drain.
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Try converting into 480p with handbrake

dicks93277 said:
As the title "How can I Speed up S/W decoding on LOW-END Device"
I'm using HTC Desire 200 ( 1 GHz Single Core Processor, 512MB(414 actually) RAM)
I want play some 720p video on my phone, tried with few TWEAKS(V6 SuperCharger, Modified Build.prop)
the Video and Audio almost not synced all the time when play with MX player (But I can't find a better player for Android)
Please Help... and sorry for my bad English
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I have a motorola bravo that I bought in 2011 which is almost the same (1ghz TI OMAP, 512mb ram) and when I try playing 720p videos, it is really slow sometimes.
The only way I can play 720p videos, it is reducing bitrate else convert resolution to 480p or lower.
Else change your phone!

@josuearisty 720p at what codec?

CDB-Man said:
@josuearisty 720p at what codec?
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Bitrate at 600kb or lower in h264.
There is a converter in the playstore which is really good, maybe the best because its based on ffmpeg and can be used some of original ffmpeg codecs
FFmpeg Media Encoder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.silentlexx.ffmpeggui

josuearisty said:
Bitrate at 600kb or lower in h264.
There is a converter in the playstore which is really good, maybe the best because its based on ffmpeg and can be used some of original ffmpeg codecs
FFmpeg Media Encoder
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.silentlexx.ffmpeggui
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If that's an 8-bit 600kbps H.264 video, then your phone probably doesn't support H.264 at a HW level, as hard as that is for me to believe considering the model year

CDB-Man said:
If that's an 8-bit 600kbps H.264 video, then your phone probably doesn't support H.264 at a HW level, as hard as that is for me to believe considering the model year
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You mean the phone? Hehehe
No man, Motorola Bravo is a backup phone with a good support from devs for custom roms, Quarx is the best.
I have a Razr M and Droid Ultra and they can play even fullHD videos very well.
And Droid Razr for backup too and for playing videos connected to my TV via HDMI. I would like an app to control MX player using other phone, an app with PLAY PAUSE etc support. To connect via wifi or bluetooth. [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1]

CDB-Man said:
Your only real option, is to reencode the video to a lower bitrate, and/or to a format that's hardware supported by your device. Handbrake is an easy to use reencoder.
Looking at GSMarena http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_200-5536.php it seems your phone should be able to play H.264/AVC format.
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I'm having troubles IDing Handbrake on Play Store, could you send me a pic of the icon?

J.A.B. said:
I'm having troubles IDing Handbrake on Play Store, could you send me a pic of the icon?
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Handbrake is a desktop program.

CDB-Man said:
Handbrake is a desktop program.
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OK, thanks

[Q] Laggy when playing video 1080p with VP9 video format

Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best

All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.

Night.Lurker said:
Hi, Recently I've downloaded video 1080p from youtube but when playing it, the video laggy but the audio just playing properly fine...
I thought it because the decoder set to H/W, but when switched to S/W both video & audio become laggy, then try switched to H/W+ it become worse (doesn't support this kind video it says...).
When I see media info of video, it use VP9 format video.
Here is the video: www[dot]youtube[dot]com/watch?v=aE2GCa-_nyU
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
Is it something like bugs so the video didn't play properly? Or android can't play video with format VP9 properly?
Because I've tried other video 1080p, it can be played properly.
Oh FYI, I've tried using few other video player, and none of its can play the video as good as MX Player. That's why I've been using MX Player as default video player.
Hope there will be improvement on the next update so the video VP9 1080p can be played properly
MX Player is the best
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VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.

VP9 on KitKat+
I've tried on 3 devices; Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, and LG G2, all of it have the same issues...
And tried on PC to check if the video has errors or something, but the video is playing perfectly fine.
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.

ktsamy said:
All 1080p videos are not same.
It may lag at various parameters like higher frame rate, bitrate, color depth,....etc.
For example if you consider a video 1080p @ 30fps inorder to display 1 sec of videos it needs to decode 30 frames. Where as in 1080p @ 60 fps it requires 60 frames to be decoded. So, It will require the double power. Like wise various encoding parameters matters in video playback.
Second, H/W uses your hardware's native decoder . If the codec is natively supported by your device, H/W decoder will be the best option.
In case of S/W decoder, it supports more video formats since it depends on the ffmpeg. But, decoding will be completely done one CPU. So, it needs very high cpu power. That's why it's more laggy.
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VP9 isn't a widely supported format. That's likely why HW and HW+ don't work well with it; most devices don't have VP9 hardware acceleration.
SW rendering of a 1080p video is very demanding. Even on the most powerful devices, since there's no hardware acceleration, expect performance to be sub-par. Currently, devices on the market can only SW render 720p smoothly.
This being said, for SW mode, try Settings > Decoder > use speedup tricks. See if that helps a little bit on SW.
Ultimately, the best option is to reencode the video to something like H264/AVC mp4.
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I see... So the point is the problem because most devices don't have VP9 hardware accelaration yet, especially for 1080p VP9...
Well... I've tried using SW speed up trick, it didn't much help...
Yeah...maybe the best option is to reencode the video to H264...or download 720p version..., cause the 720p VP9 can be played perfectly fine.
Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
Btw thanks for your answer bro
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Can you explain more where you're trying to playback the video? VP9 support is built in to Android from KitKat+ and should not have an issue playing back. Additionally, can you try playing back the video on Chrome on Android and see if there are still decode issues?
Thanks.
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As I said before, I'm trying to play 1080p VP9 video (that I've downloaded from youtube using IDM on computer) on my Asus Zenfone 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, & LG G2 using MX Player.
But when I playing it, the video is laggy on all devices...
Surely you can streaming it using youtube app & chrome android and it plays well till the end cause the available quality option in those apps is up to 720p (the 1080p quality option is hidden on those apps so I can't select it to test if it plays well or not).

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Still... I hope the MX Player developer team has plan to improve playback for 1080p VP9 video
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That would be something you would have to ask the ffmpeg team to do, since MX uses their codecs. Unless the MX dev has a magic trick up his sleeve, I don't think there's much else MX can do to further improve SW playback performance for a video that exceeds the CPU's capabilities...
Likewise, on a hardware acceleration, it's limited by the hardwaree put in place by the manufacturer... so this aspect would need a new device.

Hi, i bumping this thread because i encountered the issue on some youtube vids too, but it's mostly playing fine, i think that with a few updates it will be good my phone is getting hot fast though.. (oneplus one)
VP9 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNfZuIA1GQ : fine
VP9 1080p with a lot of "motion" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGyZY4HNumw a bit laggy

I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.

ktsamy said:
I think I have already answered.
Read the second post. Video encoding parameters matters.
If you can't play in H/W or H/W+ decoder, Don't expect the smooth playback on S/W. It fully depends on CPU. If is laggy then your processor is not powerful enough. Sometime enabling the speed up tricks may reduce the lagging.
One more thing, using CPU will drain your battery faster than H/W. When CPU runs it's maximum speed for long time it will emit more heat which may lead to issues.
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Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w

coc014 said:
Okay thank you. Then i hope new processors will have vp9 decoding h/w
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The chance of that happening, I can't see to be high. The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.

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The MPEG consortium probably pays a lot to lobby chipset makers to only support MPEG formats, such as H.264 and H.265.
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Lolno, it's just that industry is not interested in VP9. Even if they don't have to pay royalties they still have to develop asics (and h/w engineers are saying that it's not h/w friendly) and include them into the chip. It still costs a lot.
And what is the point of supporting vp9? It's an ugly google toy that they're ready to abandon (say hello to vp10 in 2015).

Ah yes, ASICs. I don't think manufacturers would be very happy at making more dies for new ICs. They already aren't happy with being forced to support Hi10p in H.265.

Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever

vivan000 said:
Forced? I would be happy if they were forced, but, at least Qualcomm, have no plans whatsoever
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Well, this sucks. Looks like we'll be waiting another generation... Where did you find that support chart?
Edit: We should move this discussion to the 10-bit thread. I'm going to quote you over there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...layer-10-bit-video-discussion-t2725241/page12

abput supporting vp9 1080p and undeleting files in mx player p higher andrpid version
first of all:
"Most probably you’re on Android marshmallow 6.0 API. If you’re trying to delete a video that is located on the external storage then its not possible due to some bug in the file system and mx player.
If you’re on the internal storage then MX player has only read only rights on the directory on which you’re currently on."
or just delete on your internal system file manager application.
Second answer about playng videos vp9
becayse you can't play vp9 if you download youtube videos with IDM (internet download manager)
because it is bull**** and its newer versions used idmmkvlib.01 codec.so when downloadimg it not only download andit convert into ist bull**** special format.so won't play withx pr others.try another downloader or manual download yt videos i recomend.

AV1 codec supported

when AV1 codec will be supported?
i am wait to supported AV1 codec

asgm021861 said:
when AV1 codec will be supported?
i am wait to supported AV1 codec
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Same here

asgm021861 said:
when AV1 codec will be supported?
i am wait to supported AV1 codec
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dhruvdave said:
Same here
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We would like to confirm that it's there in our roadmap and will do the best to bring you at the earliest.
However, it's also worth to mention here that AV1 is still under early development and none of the devices provides the hardware acceleration for the same. And, the existing software-based decoders are highly inefficient as they are not optimized to work on mobile devices. So, even if we implement that it will be barely usable.

It will be usable since some low-end 160p-240p-320p or 15fps reencode can already be done at reasonable speed on 5-year old PC now.
And this makes some space-sensitive video storage already possible with old devices.
It is the same story as i can still use Galaxy S3 to show our family ex-VHS 480p videos to my grandma at 2.5Mbits HEVC per second, full software decoding with MX!
And on S2 can do 500-800 Kbit HEVC 16:9 480p no problem as well.
Back to AV1, If S3 would handle 480p 30fps at 500kbit AV1 full-software it would be still perfect viewing experience for such a small screen or a MHL+TV+grandma

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And, the existing software-based decoders are highly inefficient as they are not optimized to work on mobile devices. So, even if we implement that it will be barely usable.
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Good morning Sir,
I have been using Mx Player Pro for several years, with custom codecs addon, and been very satisfied by this app since. The latest UI is very pleasant, I find.
Did you notice, please, that dav1d has been optimized for ARM and ARM64 since 0.2.0 version ?
As it is already supported by ffmpeg, it seems feasible to add this decoder to Mx Player also ? Of course, a budget smartphone will not be able to decode UHD videos as a modern desktop CPU can, but HD and even FHD 25fps might be reachable on a middle range device ?
Thanks.

And we're waiting yet for AV1 Codec support... One year after...