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Stay on stock rom/firmare or update?

Hi,
i have seen many people got problem after installing a new firmware or Rom.
Even though the next update might fix the error, but it feels annoying right?
So do you prefer to stay on stock rom or update if there is a new update?(not custom rom, official one.)

I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
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cascabel said:
I prefer leaving stock. But i have an SE phone, and they don't do a good job imho of updating/supporting their products. It's a safe answer, but go with what works for you. Our devs are really good, though.
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Thank you
But i afraid if i update and have a problem, and have to change back to previous rom it might affect my warranty, since i still have my phone's warranty i will not root and install custom rom, i afraid it might be affected even though it can still back to stock rom.

I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back

I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.

im abcd said:
I say go ahead and update to a new firmware / rom . It usually shouldn't cause any problems if you follow the steps closely . Also you can always reinstall stock rom and then un root your phone to get your warranty back
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I did install a custom rom before to my previous rom and ever heard about getting warranty back by reinstall to stock rom, but i didn't have a chance to do it, so i am not really sure.
maya79 said:
I would like to use custom ROM for my HTC to enable Bluetooth file sharing, but it seems like very complicated process.
On my previous smartphone (Blackberry) I always used hybrids.
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I had a LG before, and did try some custom rom. It was not so complicated.
But maybe other phone procedure might be a little different.

I've never left any of my Android phones alone ever. When I got my Motorola Droid (my first android OS phone) I rooted it a few hours after activation, a new ROM a few hours later while at work then put it all back to stock and got it replaced with a HTC Droid Incredible with the 30 day swap thing VZW does.

Flashing a custom ROM or staying stock is the whole reason XDA-Developers exists. Stock firmware are solid builds, but they are also very, very limited in what they allow you to do. I say allow because that is exactly what your carrier/manufacturer is doing with their firmware. With a custom ROM, you open the door to so many more possibilities, (ie tethering, mobile hotspot, Superuser access apps,...)
Now whether to stay on a stock FW or go custom, that is going to be up to you and what you want to get out of your device. My wife and I each have a phone and a tablet. All are Rooted. My Phone (Samsung Vibrant) is running a custom ROM by me, her phone (Motorola XT720) is running a custom ROM, her tablet (Nook Color) is running CyanogenMod 7.2, but my tablet (Asus Transformer) is running stock ROM but custom kernel.
Personally, I do not like Touchwiz from Samsung or Motoblur from Motorola, hate the bloat that both manufacturers put in there that I do not use. I also bought my wife a tablet that was Barnes&Noble branded android based FW, but I completley scrubbed it off and put a custom ROM on there for her. So now she has a full on tablet instead of a simple reader. See where I am going with this?
My tablet is fast, has all I need on it and since I am considered a power-user, I tinker with it but at this point I am satisfied with it as stock. Now, that is not to say that I have not altered it. I put a custom kernel on it and frozen some of the bloat that Asus provided. It came out with Honeycomb and then updated to ICS. Since I have had it on HC, it has seen 6 FW updates and every one of the ICS ROMs were terrible and left most users with a useless piece of machinery. Myself, I was able to keep it from de-evolving into that and have been happy with it ever since.
Hopefully this shows you that there are plenty of options for why to use a custom ROM but also to stick to stock firmware. It really just depends on you and what you want. Flashing is easy. Just read the OPs, search and read some more and above all, learn to make a Nandroid Backup.

Personally, I prefer to stay as close as possible to AOSP, with custom ROMs like Cyanogen. You don´t feel bounded by the locks imposed by the manufacturers or, even worse, the carriers.
In my experience, they are not as stable as stock ROMs (currently, I´m having some random reboots with cyanogen 9 in my Galaxy Note) so, if you don´t feel adventurous, stay stock.
Regards,

New to android, a few rooting questions please.

Hey, i am new to rooting, actually the whole android intact. I decided to get a HTC ONE X after having the iPhone for a while. I have watched some videos on rooting and i think i have all that down with boot loader and stuff. I just have a few questions about other stuff regarding rooting the phone with customer ROM's.....
1) if i have a custom rom, and i get an OTA update, will that brick my phone if i do decide to update it? I know that it will take root off... but will it brick it if i just update without doing anything with custom rom?
2)Do custom roms (the one I'm looking at is the cyanogen mod for HTC ONE X) kill the battery more then normal?
3) How do you go back to stock rom if you no longer want the rom.... is it as easy as just going to the reboot screen and selecting stock rom? is the stock rom already on there or do i have to put it on there?
4) If wanted, how easy is it to un-root phone?
5) and just personal opinion, what is the best jellybean Custom rom out right now for HTC one X?
Thank you all so much!!

1 - You can't OTA update with a custom rom. Anyway, the custom roms (Sense based) are further updates than the AT&T updates.
2 - When I used CM10, it had quite a bit of wakelock but it's dependent on each phone as well. Many have great battery life.
3 - RUU
4 - When you RUU, you relock your bootloader and it brings it back to stock. Only difference is now in the bootloader, it says re-locked, not locked.
5 - CM10 is pretty good so far, but I'm a fan of AOKP.

1. The OTAs are pulled by software on the phone. Custom ROMs don't have this software and don't pull, so no need to worry.
2. Depends. Keep in mind the current JB ROMs are still a work in progress. CM10 does still have wakelocks, but its getting better.
3. Already said above. Just relock your bootloader and RUU.
4. Easy to unroot. Easy to relock. But once you unlock your bootloader your phone will never say LOCKED again. I honestly have never had an issue with it with warranty repair, but please don't be an asshat and flash a ROM for the wrong One X and then complain to AT&T.
5. Personal preference. The great things about custom ROMs is you can try a bunch out and find the one that you like. I used AOKP a while back and liked it. CM10 is pretty cool but I just had it for a few days as they work out the wakelock issues. Also check out some of the ICS ROMs. CleanROM is pretty solid as well and gives great performance. Don't necessarily limit yourself. That's the beauty of it.

On going back to stock rom, you dont necessarily need to use the ruu. After you get your phone rooted, unlocked, and a recovery for flashing your custom roms, then just make sure before you flash your first rom that you (from recovery) select factory reset (will erase all user data such as 3rd party apps and such) then perform a backup, also in recovery. Now,you have a safe stock rooted rom backup. Go flash any of the roms in this forum and at anytime you can always just go restore your stock rom back

Interesting 1st attempt

Hey guys, I'm new to the community and I just wanted to post my 1st experience with rooting etc and follow up with a few questions!
A bit of background on my device: I've had my NS for just over 3 years now and I just recently decided (when I bought my Xperia V) that I'd like to play around with it a bit. To my knowledge, my device was one of the 1st in the country and a test dummy, and I purchased it from a friend who was working and testing for Samsung at the time. It was not linked or affiliated to Vodacom (who, if I'm correct, was the only network provider to offer the NS in S. Africa) or any other carrier for that matter. So basically due to the lack of link to any carrier, I've never received any updates or notifications to update, and have been running my stock 2.3.5 for 3 years!
Anyway, my story from yesterday was a huge learning experience. I decided that I wanted to root my NS and possibly try out a new kernel before deciding whether or not I wanted to install a custom ROM. I followed this link and managed to root my NS, install CWM recovery and everything was working pretty well using UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034264
However I think I flashed the wrong kernel (marmite_v9.1) or for some other reason messed up, keep in mind that I was still running my stock GB which the phone came with. Either way, I was stuck on the Google boot screen for more than an hour. I fired up into fastboot and then recovery, but couldn't boot from there (I just realized that I DIDN'T make an actual backup ). To top it off I wiped the device (another great idea) and the device wouldn't boot into fastboot, giving me a "fastboot mode no boot recovery img" message. Somehow through flashing the CWM I managed to get the device into the correct fastboot mode, and eventually after digging for a few hours I managed to find this (stock?) soju GB ROM download, and managed to flash the boot and system images using fastboot, for some reason " fastboot flash userdata data.img" refused to flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478820
Anyway, I managed to get back to GB 2.3.5, but get this, after about half an hour on charge, I was given an update to ICS 4.0.4 which I obviously jumped at, and to top it off, I also have JB 4.1.1 available. My NS has finally seen the light of ICS and JB!!
I have a few questions for those who have used ICS and JB though. On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed? With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
Also, which version of marmite would be compatible with ICS? From what I've picked up, marmite 9.1 is compatible with JB, but is it compatible with ICS too, and if not, can someone please point me in the right direction for kernel(s) which work with ICS (not just marmite).
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date? When searching for Oxygen for NS on the forum, the most recent version I find is this which was posted over a year ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605273
And this for Rasbeanjelly (among others): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028718
When checking out fitsnugly.euroskank, I don't see anything for the NS. . But maybe I'll consider a shot at the PA and CM ROMs and try them both in a few days
Finally, and this 1 is way over my head, but how does CWM work? If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups? Do I need to partition my sd before wiping, or does CWM do that for me, and if it not, does wiping not touch the backups?
Anyway, thanks in advance, and I hope I haven't asked too many questions which have been answered before. If I have, please bare with me and point me to the correct discussion(s) and I'll go bug some other people.

uwais27 said:
Hey guys, I'm new to the community and I just wanted to post my 1st experience with rooting etc and follow up with a few questions!
A bit of background on my device: I've had my NS for just over 3 years now and I just recently decided (when I bought my Xperia V) that I'd like to play around with it a bit. To my knowledge, my device was one of the 1st in the country and a test dummy, and I purchased it from a friend who was working and testing for Samsung at the time. It was not linked or affiliated to Vodacom (who, if I'm correct, was the only network provider to offer the NS in S. Africa) or any other carrier for that matter. So basically due to the lack of link to any carrier, I've never received any updates or notifications to update, and have been running my stock 2.3.5 for 3 years!
Anyway, my story from yesterday was a huge learning experience. I decided that I wanted to root my NS and possibly try out a new kernel before deciding whether or not I wanted to install a custom ROM. I followed this link and managed to root my NS, install CWM recovery and everything was working pretty well using UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034264
However I think I flashed the wrong kernel (marmite_v9.1) or for some other reason messed up, keep in mind that I was still running my stock GB which the phone came with. Either way, I was stuck on the Google boot screen for more than an hour. I fired up into fastboot and then recovery, but couldn't boot from there (I just realized that I DIDN'T make an actual backup ). To top it off I wiped the device (another great idea) and the device wouldn't boot into fastboot, giving me a "fastboot mode no boot recovery img" message. Somehow through flashing the CWM I managed to get the device into the correct fastboot mode, and eventually after digging for a few hours I managed to find this (stock?) soju GB ROM download, and managed to flash the boot and system images using fastboot, for some reason " fastboot flash userdata data.img" refused to flash. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478820
Anyway, I managed to get back to GB 2.3.5, but get this, after about half an hour on charge, I was given an update to ICS 4.0.4 which I obviously jumped at, and to top it off, I also have JB 4.1.1 available. My NS has finally seen the light of ICS and JB!!
I have a few questions for those who have used ICS and JB though. On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed? With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
Also, which version of marmite would be compatible with ICS? From what I've picked up, marmite 9.1 is compatible with JB, but is it compatible with ICS too, and if not, can someone please point me in the right direction for kernel(s) which work with ICS (not just marmite).
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date? When searching for Oxygen for NS on the forum, the most recent version I find is this which was posted over a year ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605273
And this for Rasbeanjelly (among others): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028718
When checking out fitsnugly.euroskank, I don't see anything for the NS. . But maybe I'll consider a shot at the PA and CM ROMs and try them both in a few days
Finally, and this 1 is way over my head, but how does CWM work? If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups? Do I need to partition my sd before wiping, or does CWM do that for me, and if it not, does wiping not touch the backups?
Anyway, thanks in advance, and I hope I haven't asked too many questions which have been answered before. If I have, please bare with me and point me to the correct discussion(s) and I'll go bug some other people.
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Follow the link in my signature for a ROM review... I've heard debates over the best versions for battery life, but JB in my opinion is far superior to ICS... Oxygen is a great ROM, but it won't get more updates and kernels/mods ect.. Are harder to obtain.. It may be a bit challenging to do, but I'd use 4.1.2 JB (follow my chart) or skip to 4.3 JB (Mokee or Slimbean)
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

good flashing

uwais27 said:
On the NS, does stock JB provide a notable difference in battery life and speed?
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Speed yes. Battery life no.
uwais27 said:
With it's hardware, is it capable of handling ICS and JB effectively?
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There are stutters here and there. You need to overclock to obtain "optimal" ICS and JB performance. JB is smoother than ICS.
uwais27 said:
Second, are the Oxygen and Rasbeanjelly ROMs still up to date?
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No.
uwais27 said:
If I do a wipe before flashing a ROM/kernel, won't that wipe my backups?
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No.
uwais27 said:
Do I need to partition my sd before wiping,
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No.
uwais27 said:
....does wiping not touch the backups?
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Normally it does not. Unless you select "wipe external sd card"

4.3 ota

For those of you who took the 4.3 ota what is your opinion of the updated ,and did you come from a custom rom.I was thinking of talking official 4.3 just curious to here feedback on it ,I know once I do it bootloader is locked for good .I am on Liquid smooth love it but I miss the Samsung features and having a glitch free phone I know ill get back on the verizon ota, been running custom rom since first week of owning phone think im ready to go back stock as long as official 4.3 is good

=phatreno;49148087]For those of you who took the 4.3 ota what is your opinion of the updated ,and did you come from a custom rom.I was thinking of talking official 4.3 just curious to here feedback on it ,I know once I do it bootloader is locked for good .I am on Liquid smooth love it but I miss the Samsung features and having a glitch free phone I know ill get back on the verizon ota, been running custom rom since first week of owning phone think im ready to go back stock as long as official 4.3 is good[/QUOTE]
Why take the OTA when you can just flash the stock Rom? I personally like it but I've always liked TW roms

kieso said:
=phatreno;49148087]For those of you who took the 4.3 ota what is your opinion of the updated ,and did you come from a custom rom.I was thinking of talking official 4.3 just curious to here feedback on it ,I know once I do it bootloader is locked for good .I am on Liquid smooth love it but I miss the Samsung features and having a glitch free phone I know ill get back on the verizon ota, been running custom rom since first week of owning phone think im ready to go back stock as long as official 4.3 is good
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Why take the OTA when you can just flash the stock Rom? I personally like it but I've always liked TW roms[/QUOTE
I know that there' one out there you can flash and maintain a unlocked bootloader but reading the thread sounds like there's a lot of issues with it I use my phone for work so need something 100% eliable Liquid is almost there but still have to do battery pulls get f/c's ,I did have another phone so it didn't matter now this is my only phone
let me rephrase that didn't mean take the ota but flash the official 4.3 which would lock boot loader to take the ota I would have to revert to stock then take the ota easier just flashing 4.3

After a long time flashing custom rom and kernel on my wife S3 and always hear complaints about issue, I decided to flash stock 4.3. Now she's happy with her phone, everything is working smoothly and the phone is pretty fast and snappy, battery life is the best. I have to say, 4.3 is a great improvement over 4.1.2. My recommendation is if you like to play around with flashing custom rom and ok with all the bugs hear and there then it would be fine, but if you want a daily driver, stable phone then stock 4.3 is the way to go. While she's on custom rom, many times when we at a party and when she tried to take picture the camera FC, or displayed weird color, the gps acting up, phone lockup needed to pull the battery to reset etc...Again, if you want a stable, good battery life, go with stock 4.3 and with just root.(I need root to install wifi tethering). Now she has a perfect phone and no more complaints.

buhohitr said:
After a long time flashing custom rom and kernel on my wife S3 and always hear complaints about issue, I decided to flash stock 4.3. Now she's happy with her phone, everything is working smoothly and the phone is pretty fast and snappy, battery life is the best. I have to say, 4.3 is a great improvement over 4.1.2. My recommendation is if you like to play around with flashing custom rom and ok with all the bugs hear and there then it would be fine, but if you want a daily driver, stable phone then stock 4.3 is the way to go. While she's on custom rom, many times when we at a party and when she tried to take picture the camera FC, or displayed weird color, the gps acting up, phone lockup needed to pull the battery to reset etc...Again, if you want a stable, good battery life, go with stock 4.3 and with just root.(I need root to install wifi tethering). Now she has a perfect phone and no more complaints.
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that sounds like what I needed to here,did you flash 4.3 or revert to stock and take the ota not sure if there's a difference I already downloaded the stock 4.3

I've had zero issues on the 4.3 rom.
Make a backup and give it a run.
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that sounds like what I needed to here,did you flash 4.3 or revert to stock and take the ota not sure if there's a difference I already downloaded the stock 4.3
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It's depended on what apps you installed on your phone, most of them should be fine with 4.3. When ever I upgrade to a new version, I like a clean install. Do a factory reset (this will wipe all your installed apps and reset your phone back to factory condition, make sure you have a backup of your apps), then let the upgrade run. Once done use saferoot to root.

from crack flasher to stock
i've been a crack flasher since my DX days, having flashed just a couple days after getting my S3. I've been on Hyperdrive, Synergy, AOKP, OSE, stock and various versions of CM to include the best, Mastamoons unofficial.
had to get a replacement phone, and as i was setting it up, the damn thing updated to 4.3 itself.
now... i still get that crackflashing urge, but i will admit, i like having the phone stock. i can make it look like its on any of the other roms, just with minor alterations.
antenna's on the latest is the best i've ever seen, everything works great, and don't see the lag on 4.3 TW as on others.
guess i can live with this for a while, and i do have faith in the DEV community that someone will break the latest, just as in previous versions. But for now, i can live with stock as everything works great!
:victory:

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It's depended on what apps you installed on your phone, most of them should be fine with 4.3. When ever I upgrade to a new version, I like a clean install. Do a factory reset (this will wipe all your installed apps and reset your phone back to factory condition, make sure you have a backup of your apps), then let the upgrade run. Once done use saferoot to root.
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ok thanks

Please go here for any further...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575661

[Q] flash back to stock

I'm currently on a custom kernel and rom for 4.3 but I'm having terrible battery life and I'm tired of flashing new roms to get the same result. As for some of my friends that have a verizon S3 phone, they get better battery life and don't have all the problems that I continue to have.
Is there a way to go back to complete stock and let my phone do the OTA update and not have to worry about this phone anymore?
I know I must sound crazy for wanting my phone to go back to normal, but I'm tired of having all the problems and trying to find new roms to have them fail on me, even though everyone else seems to be having good luck with them.
So again I'm a Verizon S3 on 4.3, Baseband VRUCML1. Ktoonz kernel on CleanRom 8