Q] Root "disabled" itself!? (Rooted phone that is no longer allowing root access) - General Questions and Answers

Q] Root "disabled" itself!? (Rooted phone that is no longer allowing root access)
Anyone here with a modded Galaxy S3 phone (or any) - that is rooted - have it just seemingly act as if it is no longer rooted? or unjustly denying root access for no apparent reason....
Have been rooted since purchase and have never seen or had any issue with this..have flashed custom recovery and rom's hundreds of times...no problems...currently using Task's latest KK 4.4.4 rom and had no issues from beginning...
It comes with SuperUser...i do usually install SuperSU instead but hadn't tried yet...it was fine and apps that needed root appeared ok..even SuperUser has three or four listed apps in the "allow" section...but all of a sudden I can't seem to give root access to anything else now..
First noticed the other day when trying to sideload an apk..couldn't...tried to do it manually by just copying it to system/apps folder and that's when the first message came up saying "it appears your device may not be rooted"...quite odd I thought.. i then tried to install SuperSU and it when SuperUser popped up to give it allowable root access it would only timeout and say denied...i then tried a bunch of other apps that require root and they would all just get denied by SuperUser...
Anyone seen this before or know what causes this and/or how to fix?
THanks for any help or suggestions
ps.. i'm no noob and have been doing this a long time and have rooted/modded dozens of phones, hundreds of times...but this issue is a new one for me.. IF i have to completely wipe and even go back to stock image and then start over to re-root and re-mod... I will and can do so easily..but that would be last resort if necessary...thanks!

pchemerys said:
Anyone here with a modded Galaxy S3 phone (or any) - that is rooted - have it just seemingly act as if it is no longer rooted? or unjustly denying root access for no apparent reason....
Have been rooted since purchase and have never seen or had any issue with this..have flashed custom recovery and rom's hundreds of times...no problems...currently using Task's latest KK 4.4.4 rom and had no issues from beginning...
It comes with SuperUser...i do usually install SuperSU instead but hadn't tried yet...it was fine and apps that needed root appeared ok..even SuperUser has three or four listed apps in the "allow" section...but all of a sudden I can't seem to give root access to anything else now..
First noticed the other day when trying to sideload an apk..couldn't...tried to do it manually by just copying it to system/apps folder and that's when the first message came up saying "it appears your device may not be rooted"...quite odd I thought.. i then tried to install SuperSU and it when SuperUser popped up to give it allowable root access it would only timeout and say denied...i then tried a bunch of other apps that require root and they would all just get denied by SuperUser...
Anyone seen this before or know what causes this and/or how to fix?
THanks for any help or suggestions
ps.. i'm no noob and have been doing this a long time and have rooted/modded dozens of phones, hundreds of times...but this issue is a new one for me.. IF i have to completely wipe and even go back to stock image and then start over to re-root and re-mod... I will and can do so easily..but that would be last resort if necessary...thanks!
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i have no explanation for what happened, actually never heard it happen before.
why not try to re-root and see what happens. if that doesn't work, i would think your only option would be to flash it clean and start over.

Reroot. Or unroot then reroot.

yeah i was thinking that might have to be done.. was hoping not and that this was some sort of known or fixable issue...but may have no choice..will wait another couple days to see if i find anything and do it if no other option..

pchemerys said:
yeah i was thinking that might have to be done.. was hoping not and that this was some sort of known or fixable issue...but may have no choice..will wait another couple days to see if i find anything and do it if no other option..
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well, i haven't seen any root methods that require wiping the phone, so why wait to try re-rooting?

I would try a new busybox with kinguser and reroot.

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[Q] Can I lose root even if I don't update my ROM

I should phrase the question, "Can I lose root if I do not update with an HTC/TMO update?".
I walked through guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300) to root my Sensation and it worked with no issues. I had the root phone for several weeks and decided to try a couple new ROMs. I did my due diligence and did a full backup with Titanium and then a CM backup. The problem arose when I flashed in the Revolution HD ROM. Once installed, I could not get Titanium to work. It kept saying it could not get root permission. I checked SuperUser, and it was there, but would not prompt to allow root access for any of my apps. I restored back to my original ROM and again, I do not seem to have root. All my applications are there, SuperUser is set to prompt me when an app requests root, but none of the root apps will work anymore. I grabbed a root checking app off the market, and it says it cannot obtain root too. I checked fastboot and it still shows S-OFF. I've never had this issue with any of my other Android devices once I rooted them. I was able to get my root access back by following step 3 of the guide, but I'm curious how I lost root by flashing in another custom ROM. Any ideas?
You didn't lose root you lost root access. It happened with two of my nandroids from CWM. I just erased them and started over from a fresh rom install and everything was fine. It kinda suxs though lol when SU tells you it can't get access. There are a few if us that this happened too. Its been mentioned in yje Clockwork thread.

Rooted Tablet went bad...

I rooted my Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus 7.0 tablet with the tutorial from this site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24736900
It worked just fine for a couple days, then today I powered up the tablet and when I unlock it, it shows a problem loading all widgets, and within a few seconds the screen goes black, then proceeds back to the unlock screen. I unlock it again and this keeps repeating.
I didn't hack anything else, just installed superuser and a couple of other root apps. Really I haven't done anything else to cause this.
I don't even have enough time to go into settings and do a factory reset.
Any ideas? Perhaps in recovery?
EDIT - I did a factory reset in recovery. Is this going to fix it back to normal? I probably won't root ever again.
It probably has no affect, but what root apps did you install?
superuser, busybox, adfree, rom toolbox (which couldnt even detect my root but I never tried anything else)... those I can remember...
Did you install CWM and do a backup?
Im not sure what that acronym is for. I am new to all this. I followed the simple instructions in that tutorial and that was it.
It seems the issue is gone since my factory reset.
I am not sure if the root is still there however.
If there are extra steps to be done after a root it would help to have them with the tutorial....
A factory reset will remove root from your phone. Rooting it in and of itself should cause no issues like you are having it has to be something you installed and I would suspect ROM Toolbox. I'm not sure this app supports teh GTab+ or even has any useful purpose for us as we have no real ROMs to flash. It also contains a ROM Manager and if its the same one by Koush then it will defintely screw up our tablets.
repo97 said:
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus 7.0 tablet with the tutorial from this site:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24736900
It worked just fine for a couple days, then today I powered up the tablet and when I unlock it, it shows a problem loading all widgets, and within a few seconds the screen goes black, then proceeds back to the unlock screen. I unlock it again and this keeps repeating.
I didn't hack anything else, just installed superuser and a couple of other root apps. Really I haven't done anything else to cause this.
I don't even have enough time to go into settings and do a factory reset.
Any ideas? Perhaps in recovery?
EDIT - I did a factory reset in recovery. Is this going to fix it back to normal? I probably won't root ever again.
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I have done this ROOT like a million times (i'm a flash junkie)... testing the CM9 roms and back to stock again.. never had an issue with ROOTing the stock ROMs..
Suggest you download the latest firmware for your device and flash using ODIN and factory reset. Repeat the flash & factory reset a few times
Maybe you have the wrong clue of what your problem is. To root your tab is just a matter of put a binary called "su" on a directory on your PATH, usually /usr/bin and set it with proper permissions. This binary gives you superuser powers, but there's nothing on it or at least in the process that installs it that makes it interfere in anything without being called.
So accidentally you did anything that went wrong or any of programs that requires root did.
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kzoodroid said:
A factory reset will remove root from your phone. Rooting it in and of itself should cause no issues like you are having it has to be something you installed and I would suspect ROM Toolbox. I'm not sure this app supports teh GTab+ or even has any useful purpose for us as we have no real ROMs to flash. It also contains a ROM Manager and if its the same one by Koush then it will defintely screw up our tablets.
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Sorry for taking a bit to reply, havent had the chance to get much PC stuff done lately.
Aaah so you think it was the culprit.... its wierd because when I tried to run the rom toolbox it shown that my tab was not rooted.
Then the problems started... as in my tab was rebooting itself and was stuck in a loop.
I did do the factory reset and then used a root checker and noticed it shown as no root access.
I have read that a factory reset does not remove root... are you sure it does completely?
I'd hate to go through another reset as I have set everything up again.
The only bug I have noticed so far with my tab is that the odd app (so far market and dolphin browser) at times I am unable to go back a page... the page just kind of flashes and stays on that page but does not go back. I end up having to restart the app.
Should I reflash with latest firmware and do a factory reset?
If so... I found this site, shall I use these instructions and firmware?
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-7-0-plus-p6200-update-ddkl2-honeycomb-3-2-firmware-45993/

lost root somehow

i tried searching the forums and google and couldnt find much of anything. i rooted using he debugfsroot tool and unlocked with adams tool. ive been running fne for a week or so i still have superuser installed and it gives permissions to titanium backup but hwen i tried to run the battery calibration app it said im not rooted. i downloaded root check basic and it says im not rooted either... i confused as ive not received any updates to my knowledge.. i delted the process that supposedly checks for updates... any ideas? i did try to reroot with the debugfsroot tool again and it all went through teh same steps and said successful etc. but i have the same problem.
did you update super user to the latest?
Yes i updated superuser and binary
any other ieas? is rooting through odin any worse of a way to root besides the fact that it will wipe my phone? it just seems wierd that would have happened.
Got it resolved. Superuser was set to auto allow.. for some reaskn it denied a few apps. Set it to prompt i allow and it works

[Q] Unrooted with SuperSU & lost all data

My phone's been rooted ever since i got it and the only reason i was looking into unrooting it is because work email app won't install on a rooted device. i didn't want to return to stock and lock my bootloaders and all that as i really like the rom i'm using, which is Trickdroid 8.1. a lot of searching on the internet and several discussions pointed to using the unroot feature in supersu but i was under the impression that data on the phone would not be lost/deleted. boy was i wrong.
i went ahead to unroot in supersu and it took sometime to remove itself along with superuser app. unrooting seem to have worked as i am now able to install work email app BUT i just noticed all of my data is gone. anyone know what the hell happened?
I know there's not chance for me to get the files back but i'd just like to understand where I went wrong (if not). other than not backing up everything beforehand of course.

[Q] Root box issues with D850?

So last night I was using My Backup Pro to back up my files before I tried flashing the new CM for our phone and noticed that I didn't have busybox installed. I installed it and backed the phone up overnight. In the morning I noticed that my WiFi wouldn't turn on and that I couldn't flash anything. Ran root checker and my root is bad now. Anyone else experience any problems with rootbox? That and backing up my stuff are the only things I've done different lately. My phone is rooted with towelroot and bumped. I really don't feel like unrooting and returning back to stock to start the process over again but IDK how to fix the root. Root checker gives these error messages.....
Don't know much about the code, anyone have any suggestions?
kinjo1023 said:
So last night I was using My Backup Pro to back up my files before I tried flashing the new CM for our phone and noticed that I didn't have busybox installed. I installed it and backed the phone up overnight. In the morning I noticed that my WiFi wouldn't turn on and that I couldn't flash anything. Ran root checker and my root is bad now. Anyone else experience any problems with rootbox? That and backing up my stuff are the only things I've done different lately. My phone is rooted with towelroot and bumped. I really don't feel like unrooting and returning back to stock to start the process over again but IDK how to fix the root. Root checker gives these error messages.....
Don't know much about the code, anyone have any suggestions?
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What does SuperSU or Superuser state when opened? Have you updated the binary or is that even an option?
Everything was up to date when I checked last night and supersu was working fine. I ended up unrooting and reverting back to stock and starting from scratch.

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